assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40900 @ 0.00050614 = 20.7011 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7180 @ 0.00051755 = 3.716 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47850 @ 0.00051178 = 24.4887 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46800 @ 0.00052218 = 24.438 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46750 @ 0.00052488 = 24.5381 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 02-08-2015 20:35:24; decimation: except they are not reproducing
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22183 @ 0.00050912 = 11.2938 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20850 @ 0.00052827 = 11.0144 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46600 @ 0.00050887 = 23.7133 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 153100 @ 0.00052766 = 80.7847 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30989 @ 0.00052043 = 16.1276 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: though i admit that the difference between fact and fiction is exceedingly thin, particularly when discussing the american legal system.
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 283.02, Best ask: 283.19, Bid-ask spread: 0.17000, Last trade: 283.01, 24 hour volume: 7526.59199257, 24 hour low: 277.16, 24 hour high: 283.44, 24 hour vwap: None
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00051534 = 8.1424 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60750 @ 0.00053835 = 32.7048 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43996 @ 0.000524 = 23.0539 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24100 @ 0.00052062 = 12.5469 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18092 @ 0.00053021 = 9.5926 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28281 @ 0.0005356 = 15.1473 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23100 @ 0.00053608 = 12.3834 BTC [+] {3}
jurov: czech nat'l bank sharply devalued their currency, without any real reason
jurov: only so that their balance sheet look right
Apocalyptic: "without any real reason" // I thought it was to boost export
jurov: exporters need *stable* favorable exchange rate, not such shenanigans
jurov: and they import buch of stuff, too
BingoBoingo: I for one welcome shenanigans as our new overlord
jurov: of course, as you don't employ ppl and move stuff afaik
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00054073 = 5.948 BTC [+]
jurov: in other news, area fags organize group jerkoff devoted to putin :D
cazalla: anyone know what is going on here?
http://dpaste.com/2HMWH8Z.txt i get stuck at block 367896, tried copying over to another pc and same deal, hits block 367896 and shits itself and spews please update messages (which i even tried over the weekend for shits and giggles with their 0.11 bitcoin core client but it crashes with core dumps or some shit, can't even go from genesis to current block on a fresh install)
jurov: obama can only dream of such
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30250 @ 0.00054133 = 16.3752 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Record transactions crammed into a block. On the 0.11 was there an OOM kill?
jurov: BingoBoingo: that's why is said fags, they like things immaculately shaved
BingoBoingo: Though putin's a bit old to be a twink. A bit saggy too.
cazalla: BingoBoingo, just quits with core dumps or database is corrupt and -reindex ends up shitting itself too.. blew 50gb with their latest client and it doesn't even work, makes me wonder if they've even tried to sync a fresh install with their latest version
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23100 @ 0.00054518 = 12.5937 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: Logged on 03-08-2015 09:05:28; cazalla: BingoBoingo, just quits with core dumps or database is corrupt and -reindex ends up shitting itself too.. blew 50gb with their latest client and it doesn't even work, makes me wonder if they've even tried to sync a fresh install with their latest version
cazalla: "Australia's second-largest capital registered 4.9 per cent home price growth in July".. to think 5% per year was obscene.. now 5% per month!
BingoBoingo: cazalla shinohai: What version of Bitcoin are you getting these errors with?
shinohai: BingoBoingo: v0.11.0 the latest. I have built twice, even tried the precompiled shit.
BingoBoingo: Maybe it is time for you two to roll back to a more civilized Bitcoin.
cazalla: but even trying 0.11.0, it can't even go from fresh install to latest block, tried twice, shit itself each time and rewind x amount of blocks and chewed more bandwidth before dying again
shinohai: I still have 0.5.4 running, nw
cazalla: BingoBoingo, i tried that weekend before last but unable to get up it up and running yet
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36300 @ 0.00054631 = 19.8311 BTC [+] {4}
HeySteve: thanks, nice article on the UK porn
HeySteve: Cameron is over 30 years late on the Big Brother thing but making up for lost time it seems
BingoBoingo: To be fair though the UK got to practice for much of the 20th century on th eoccupied corner of Ireland
HeySteve: apparently Windows 10 is a real security nightmare, it logs everything
HeySteve: asked MS if they recommend it for Bitcoin use
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56600 @ 0.00052681 = 29.8174 BTC [-] {5}
BingoBoingo: Well MS is probably going the Google/Android route. Less revenue from selling to users and more from selling the users.
shinohai: Honestly, if you run bitcoin on Windows you deserve to be stolen from.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30266 @ 0.00054658 = 16.5428 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27750 @ 0.00054732 = 15.1881 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39300 @ 0.0005477 = 21.5246 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.0005477 = 5.2579 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39000 @ 0.0005477 = 21.3603 BTC [+]
chetty: hacking is really a sort of sport isn't it?
punkman: some hunt for sport, some to eat
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11750 @ 0.0005477 = 6.4355 BTC [+]
shinohai: hacking *is* one of life's ultimate sports.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51700 @ 0.00052163 = 26.9683 BTC [-] {2}
shinohai: Won't even sync to my own private chain, that being the only connection.
shinohai: nope, ig ot so pissed when i woke up this morning i rm 0rf'd everything and started over
shinohai: i dunno, something i saw browsing imgur
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23136 @ 0.00054769 = 12.6714 BTC [+] {5}
shinohai: So Poloniex is no longer going to allow NY customers
BingoBoingo: I thought maybe you'd spotted that mess in "Core"
shinohai: It wouldn't surprise me if something like that *wasn't* there. Core is just far too cumbersome to be useful anymore :/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23370 @ 0.00052002 = 12.1529 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3530 @ 0.00052002 = 1.8357 BTC [-]
shinohai: ;;later tell trinque am i doing something wrong, or is deedbot down?
deedbot-: imported: FDF63798C83A7B1375F72468E33585713E184252
trinque: looks like it ate your key just fine
shinohai: Sorry, I just discovered deedbot doesnt like pms
trinque: ah, yes, use it here please
jurov: shinohai that would work only for such flat surfaces. like, not 99% of streets
shinohai: I'm sittin nearby with a getaway rollback xD
jurov: also, got a stray thought, we'll certainly soon see RT airing how american drones abduct toddlers
jurov: if they haven't already
jurov: maybe they prefer the drones to teach them masturbate, dunno
BingoBoingo: Well it's cheaper than sending Angelina Jolie out to abduct children
BingoBoingo: And more humane than the way the UK dispatches Gary Glitter to adbuct toddlers
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32672 @ 0.00053965 = 17.6314 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45850 @ 0.00054461 = 24.9704 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3078 @ 0.00054461 = 1.6763 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35950 @ 0.00053133 = 19.1013 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00052919 = 9.6842 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94850 @ 0.00052069 = 49.3874 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27600 @ 0.000547 = 15.0972 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50200 @ 0.00054742 = 27.4805 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10795 @ 0.0005477 = 5.9124 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00053106 = 5.3637 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 03-08-2015 09:02:58; cazalla: anyone know what is going on here?
http://dpaste.com/2HMWH8Z.txt i get stuck at block 367896, tried copying over to another pc and same deal, hits block 367896 and shits itself and spews please update messages (which i even tried over the weekend for shits and giggles with their 0.11 bitcoin core client but it crashes with core dumps or some shit, can't even go from genesis to current block on a fresh insta
shinohai: asciilifeform: do those nodes all have separate ip's ?
kakobrekla: In primitive times it is perhaps expedient that rational knowledge should
kakobrekla: be united with religion. It is only by means of superstition that a rude
kakobrekla: people can be induced to support, and a robber soldiery to respect, an
kakobrekla: intellectual class. < how is this not the bezzle
assbot: Logged on 23-07-2015 14:52:27; kakobrekla: ok, so theres now node1.b-a.link node2.b-a.link and node3.b-a.link
assbot: Logged on 23-07-2015 14:58:22; kakobrekla: dulap.b-a.link, incitatus.b-a.link, zoolag.b-a.link is set
shinohai: got 'em, and yeah i have only been syncing against mp's node
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00053106 = 2.6553 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42100 @ 0.00051425 = 21.6499 BTC [-] {3}
shinohai: I just started syncing this one. Gonna take a minute :/
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6 et al: all 3 of my nodez are synced presently << good to know, thx for the update
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33200 @ 0.00051414 = 17.0694 BTC [-] {4}
shinohai: BingoBoingo: what's ur .conf look like
BingoBoingo: addnode, addnode, minrelaytxfee=100000, etc
BingoBoingo: 100000 because the way I implemented the flag it is set in satoshis
punkman: "I'm also on fiverr.com now, a site where you can offer any service for $5 a pop. I offer things like mini websites, setting up cloud servers, and many other tech jobs. The reality is my expertise is barely even worth $5 in today's market, so I frequently take on multi-hour horror projects on fiverr just to make four bucks (they take $1 commission)"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39078 @ 0.00052664 = 20.58 BTC [+] {5}
jcpham: so assbot is a full blown pita fork now
jcpham: that's ok I just scripted it
jurov imagines kakobrekla basking in rays of jcpham's warm approval
jcpham: that's cute; i'm actually dumb don't mind me
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15250 @ 0.00053072 = 8.0935 BTC [+] {3}
jurov: what has obama to do with it?
jcpham: when it's hot outside, you say "thanks obama"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72814 @ 0.00053072 = 38.6438 BTC [+] {3}
jurov: lol, you can also call 201x children "obama's children"
jurov: as was the lulzcustom here... i am "husak's child" after czechoslovak president
jurov: actually he earned it, due to support for parents unmatched before or after
jurov: so there was kinda baby boom
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77990 @ 0.00053126 = 41.433 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79547 @ 0.00052084 = 41.4313 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: brianddk comments on Is Blizzard ever going to accept bitcoin as a payment option for their games? : starcraft ... (
http://bit.ly/1KMkSkX )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00053245 = 7.9868 BTC [+]
ascii_field: 'As a final station, I'd like to describe what online freelancer markets look like for people like me. On freelancer.com and oDesk, you compete with hundreds of lowest-wage programmers from third world countries for exceedingly crappy "projects". It's an unmitigated race to the bottom. Even if I could land these jobs in an environment where the competition basically works for free, there is no way to make a living off
jurov: i was there. if you make a good job, after some months someone will adopt you and pay better
ascii_field: kakobrekla: our zeroes are bigger than usg's!
jurov: funny i can't remember programmer being paid here?
jurov: i will be paid *if* i someday make sense of eulora spaghetti client
kakobrekla: didnt thet dude who made some charts noone is using get paid?
ascii_field: 'soviet elephants are the biggest elephantz!'
jurov: i won't dare to compute hourly rate from that, tho
danielpbarron: diana_coman got paid to write a crafter bot for eulora
kakobrekla: anyway, there was some other dude collecting cv for bezzleworks here also ?
ascii_field: danielpbarron: we're talking about money-one-could-live-on
danielpbarron: the slithy toves she got as payment will let us continue doing stuff in eulora for at least the next few months
assbot: Logged on 03-08-2015 17:01:57; ascii_field: kakobrekla: iirc nothing came of it
kakobrekla: anyway, yeah our zeros are bigger than their zeros.
kakobrekla: yeah i get it, was thinking of the other one.
ascii_field: and yes, i fully expect mircea_popescu to proclaim that mr. unemployableprogrammer is office plankton and ought to be boiled for soap
ascii_field: and i can't be certain that he is wrong in the particular case
ascii_field: but will note that i also expect to be boiled for soap.
chetty: well the mr. unemployableprogrammer would be better off flippin burgers
gernika: Some taleb talk posted here applies to this fellow - the applicable bit being that his main mistake was holding the same job for years - fragile strategy.
trinque: if you don't have the relationships to find interesting work, what do you expect?
gernika: Playing the craigslist lottery around here can sometimes result in surprising connections.
trinque: yeah, I've found plenty of fine work that way
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00053758 = 6.0747 BTC [+] {4}
ascii_field: chetty: once he goes to the burgers (not a trivial feat as it may seem, you have to convincingly fake a 'blue-collar' background) - may as well eat pistol
gernika: Perhaps this place is mortally ill, but some aspects of the disease are more interesting to treat than others.
trinque: ascii_field: what is a php job but burger flipping?
trinque: take trival db query, fart results into html, repeat til death
ascii_field: trinque: go, try. then report re: the difference.
gernika: Realized at one point I would never even be able to work for a place such as Whole Foods - even if I wanted to.
ascii_field: gernika: for the record, i once tried to get 'blue collar' work, and failed. turned away, 'overqualified, you'll leave as soon as you can'
ascii_field: to avoid this, one has to be a first-class actor
ascii_field: and if you are this kind of actor, can get lucrative gig in hollywood or cia
ascii_field: otherwise, go, tell the truth about your biography, and starve.
jurov: trinque i took an update of ancient j2ee app and clandestinely learned git, while on it. try such when flipping burgers.
trinque: ascii_field: I don't expect for a moment that you could possibly fake "stupid"
ascii_field: trinque: the acting is mostly so you can fake 'was always stupid'
trinque: jurov: yeah that's a good point
gernika: ascii_field I would probably need tribal piercings at a minimum to get a job at Whole Foods. Much like inmates in prison indicate their dedication to their trade with facial tattoos.
jurov: lol such fantasies
trinque: jurov: but again, if you don't have friends doing anything interesting, doesn't matter how good you are at dwarf fortress
jurov: trinque what do you mean?
trinque: I loathe most people, yet being a competent coder without being able to communicate is impossible.
jurov: i have learned the interesting stuff by myself, not fro friends
trinque: the unemployable thing strikes me as being socially dysfunctional
jurov: maybe. i remembered one friend of mine who has similar difficulties
punkman: trinque: consider the case where your meat-wot is "businessmen" in Luxor
jurov: and he got ccna cert, then found out there's not many ciscoes out there
jurov: i asked him to write eu project, he won't without micromanaging
jurov: i asked him to learn python, not heard since
chetty: ascii_field> trinque: go, try. then report re: the difference.// no substanstial difference, truck driving or lawn mowing are both improvements
ascii_field: chetty: 1) they aren't indoors, air conditioned, WITHOUT TALKING TO FUCKING PEOPLE
ascii_field: 2) once you do these, pretty much condemned for life.
chetty: well now you are getting down to a matter of taste, I kinda liked truckin
punkman: that's pretty much everywhere these days
jurov: sudo curl > /dev/hda is better
mike_c: really? i guess i'm getting too old for this stuff.
trinque: punkman | trinque: consider the case where your meat-wot is "businessmen" in Luxor << can probably be milked for some kind of value; if that's all ya got, that's all ya got. better than nothing
trinque: jurov: yeah, I have met the same type. he should've asked you for a task, and done it. only way to learn.
mike_c: one of the things it does is run apt-get update &> /dev/null
mike_c: i mean, fuck you! maybe i don't want to update everything
ben_vulpes: this is the industry standard approach to the by-now-all-too-familiar-#b-a-bitcoin-dependency-problem
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9735 @ 0.00051951 = 5.0574 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7588 @ 0.00051951 = 3.942 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49251 @ 0.00053422 = 26.3109 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2849 @ 0.00054339 = 1.5481 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19650 @ 0.00054408 = 10.6912 BTC [+] {2}
Xplosionist: no, just a very old name w/ a very strange source. not meaningful in itself.
Xplosionist: after a bet is resolved, is there a place I can see the transactions for the payouts?
Xplosionist: I see the links for the addresses, but I'd like to see the specific transaction of the pay-out listed.
ascii_field: Xplosionist: use your favourite blockchain viewer to go from addr to tx
kakobrekla: if you plan on automating it, there were cases where more than 1tx was needed to pay out all the winners
Xplosionist: Yeah, the transactions don't show up in the address transaction list. for a recently resolved bet, it may just be that the listed value hasn't actually been paid out yet?
kakobrekla: Xplosionist yea, we added 2 days delay after resolution
Xplosionist: Ahh. Okay then. Of course, what's I'm looking at is resolved 1 day 22 hours ago. lol Figured.
Xplosionist: Thanks for that pointer and answer, then. That'd be it.
kakobrekla: i should make it clear on site prolly.
Xplosionist: I did look in the FAQ. Maybe put it there.
Xplosionist: Ahh. Okay. Clearly I didn't read it carefully enough. Although, I would suggest that making that detail more obvious might be of value.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37750 @ 0.00054225 = 20.4699 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33700 @ 0.0005428 = 18.2924 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10240 @ 0.00054295 = 5.5598 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36724 @ 0.00053102 = 19.5012 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00052257 = 3.6319 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88050 @ 0.0005444 = 47.9344 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23650 @ 0.00051943 = 12.2845 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23750 @ 0.00054702 = 12.9917 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36250 @ 0.00054864 = 19.8882 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6921 @ 0.00052962 = 3.6655 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00054923 = 3.4052 BTC [+] {3}
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27500 @ 0.00052733 = 14.5016 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9019 @ 0.00053415 = 4.8175 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15642 @ 0.00051944 = 8.1251 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44650 @ 0.00051943 = 23.1925 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22950 @ 0.00053415 = 12.2587 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30252 @ 0.00054122 = 16.373 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59960 @ 0.00053203 = 31.9005 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10206 @ 0.00054777 = 5.5905 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34500 @ 0.00054879 = 18.9333 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00054164 = 4.0623 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 03-08-2015 02:08:02; asciilifeform: what layer.
shinohai: wb mircea_popescu, when you have time I need a eulora pass
mircea_popescu: ima be in the game in half hour give you some noob items to get started.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00053745 = 6.2344 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Logged on 03-08-2015 08:39:38; jurov: only so that their balance sheet look right
mircea_popescu: it is the only conceivable reason and absolutely utterly sufficient.
mircea_popescu: if the natl bank balance sheet doesn't look right, everyone can go bite a steel girder.
mircea_popescu: and chew on it, happily, until such a time the balance sheet looks right.
assbot: Logged on 03-08-2015 09:02:58; cazalla: anyone know what is going on here?
http://dpaste.com/2HMWH8Z.txt i get stuck at block 367896, tried copying over to another pc and same deal, hits block 367896 and shits itself and spews please update messages (which i even tried over the weekend for shits and giggles with their 0.11 bitcoin core client but it crashes with core dumps or some shit, can't even go from genesis to current block on a fresh insta
mircea_popescu: why exactly your thing is stuck is unclear. you can either build stator and use the same blk stuff, which will work ; or else wipe them and start over from one of the foundation nodes, which will also work.
mircea_popescu: the latter is guaranteed to take a while. the former may take even longer depending on how familiar you are with mashing computers into shape.
mircea_popescu: "In November, thieves stole $1 billion from Moldovas three biggest banks through a series of fraudulent loans and transfers. Moldova, sandwiched between Romania and Ukraine, is the poorest country in Europe; the theft amounted to more than an eighth of GDP. It has set in train a series of events that will leave the government unable to pay salaries by the end of the summer, according to the recently departed finance
mircea_popescu: "thieves". the moldovan equivalents of the ukrainian oligarchs just ran off with the loot.
shinohai: Hmmm. i think I have incorrect video drivers, but pass works, thanks
shinohai: ./eu.sh: line 3: 12524 Segmentation fault ./euclient
assbot: Logged on 03-08-2015 09:53:03; BingoBoingo: Well MS is probably going the Google/Android route. Less revenue from selling to users and more from selling the users.
mircea_popescu: the client's pretty shitty, it has at least two race conditions in it that yield that .
williamdunne would be interested in seeing Eurola corporations, with EEX to go with it
williamdunne: At what point does it stop being considered a game for legal reasons?
assbot: Logged on 03-08-2015 14:15:41; kakobrekla: intellectual class. < how is this not the bezzle
mircea_popescu: williamdunne i eat the world, the world doesn't eat me.
mircea_popescu: "legal reasons" stop being considered anything but a game.
assbot: Logged on 03-08-2015 14:19:14; shinohai: got 'em, and yeah i have only been syncing against mp's node
williamdunne: Wasn't insinuating that legal issues would ever be an issue for Eurola. It's more that it'd be interesting to see how a regulatory body would handle an in-game stock exchange that trades companies that perform actual economic activity
mircea_popescu: more interesting is how the in-game world would handle the "regulatory body", imo
mircea_popescu: i really don't give a shit for the other side of the coin
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assbot: Logged on 03-08-2015 15:18:53; punkman: "I'm also on fiverr.com now, a site where you can offer any service for $5 a pop. I offer things like mini websites, setting up cloud servers, and many other tech jobs. The reality is my expertise is barely even worth $5 in today's market, so I frequently take on multi-hour horror projects on fiverr just to make four bucks (they take $1 commission)"
assbot: Logged on 03-08-2015 16:01:15; jurov: what has obama to do with it?
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mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-08-2015#1223204 << this is not actually true. i have had slavegirls make a living off those things, as a learning exercise. disciplined work ethic earns a very decent living, and forever will. the problem is that for most white adolescents/young adults, that work ethic has to be supported with daily beatings for the first quarter at least.
assbot: Logged on 03-08-2015 16:57:18; ascii_field: 'As a final station, I'd like to describe what online freelancer markets look like for people like me. On freelancer.com and oDesk, you compete with hundreds of lowest-wage programmers from third world countries for exceedingly crappy "projects". It's an unmitigated race to the bottom. Even if I could land these jobs in an environment where the competition basically works for free, there is no way to ma
mircea_popescu: he's just being a passive-agressive, self-entitled, delusional western schmuck.
mircea_popescu: let him sign up for myfreecams and do anal until there's blood on the fucking dildos.
mircea_popescu: then he gets the question again, see if the answer's changed any.
mircea_popescu: and no, i wouldn't buy him the sandpaper to grind down his glans penis with.
assbot: Logged on 03-08-2015 17:00:46; jurov: i will be paid *if* i someday make sense of eulora spaghetti client
assbot: Logged on 04-08-2015 00:42:57; williamdunne: Wasn't insinuating that legal issues would ever be an issue for Eurola. It's more that it'd be interesting to see how a regulatory body would handle an in-game stock exchange that trades companies that perform actual economic activity
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mircea_popescu: Julys advertising revenue was 3,700 USD, therefore the budget allocated for content for August will be 3,700 USD.
BingoBoingo: It's probably fiat from fiat scammers wanting "exposure" at any price
danielpbarron: BingoBoingo, she was polite but not enthusiastic about the proposal
mircea_popescu: "In spit of these events, we hope that CT will be able to continue pursuing its strategic of increasing its market share and become the one-stop news source for the crypto-community. We wish you to remain strong in spirit and for a quick market recovery." << i suppose the tie-in is something like "small blocks made our shit blog ad revenue shrink in an imaginary market that doesn't exist but we hallucinated into bei
mircea_popescu: it'd be great if they pursued their "strategic" of learning how to sp'eal i'ts wordses an sheit
decimation: imagine actual people in Victorian Britain asking the assistant scullery maid what she thought about finance
williamdunne: thanks boingo, dw though doesn't need voice for now. Just the beginning stages
decimation: "In 2009, households headed by adults ages 65 and older possessed 42% more median1 net worth (assets minus debt) than households headed by their same-aged counterparts had in 1984. During this same period, the wealth of households headed by younger adults moved in the opposite direction. In 2009, households headed by adults younger than 35 had 68% less wealth than households of their same-aged counterparts had in 1984."
decimation: you know, people say that bitcoin is a ponzi scheme, but really USD is the world's largest ponzi scheme - and keeps growing
mircea_popescu: so i hear it from a trustworthy source in sweden that the local libertards have come up woith this idea to replace whatever word is used for cunt with "snipa" which apparently means sparkle
mircea_popescu: there's the usual assortment of imbeciles trumpeting their incredible success whatever, uninteresting.
mircea_popescu: what IS interesting is that apparently the legendary snipe was found
mircea_popescu: decimation probably it's like rape or who knows. causes global warmyng.
decimation: actually it's because the womyn in question don't have cunts
assbot: Logged on 03-08-2015 17:12:42; danielpbarron: or gathering flotsam for me
assbot: Logged on 03-08-2015 17:24:58; trinque: ascii_field: I don't expect for a moment that you could possibly fake "stupid"
mircea_popescu: decimation that quote says to me "kids of today r tarded"
decimation: yeah, kinda. it goes to your point earlier with ascii - doing financial analysis the main business of the us is printing usd
assbot: Logged on 03-08-2015 17:25:48; jurov: lol such fantasies
mircea_popescu: decimation this doesn't explain why the old farts are getting most of the fake bills.
mircea_popescu: (they aren't, they're just much better at not giving away their value for them)
decimation: true, but they also get direct payments through taxes, and indirect payments through money printing pumping up real estate assets
assbot: Logged on 03-08-2015 17:28:45; punkman: trinque: consider the case where your meat-wot is "businessmen" in Luxor
mircea_popescu: young people can fuck, don't need to eat and don't get sick.
decimation: yeah, but old folks can ensure they get their pound of flesh
mircea_popescu: explain this to me. how is it possible that 99 out of 100 richeest households in the us aren'ty headed by a 35 yo female, ex whore ?
decimation: your selection thing doesn't work on my browser
mircea_popescu: obviously, 1% richest would be the strato-rich, sure, ok.
mircea_popescu: but the remainder, ALL the upper middle class, should be kims.
mircea_popescu: You may think that point-whatever billion is hardly worth the mention, after all I'm white and male and go with the tech stuffs, rather than almost-not-black and female, going with the cocksucking-and-other-homemaking-stuff. You know, cheap textile "labels", perfumes, the Martha Stewart lot. Like this chick :
mircea_popescu: So it's all right and pooper that I'd be dealing in the tens of billions while her net worth is in the tens of millions, roughly enough to buy a whole closet where she lives. Right ?
mircea_popescu: a brothel does not lower the per-capita value of the individual whores.
mircea_popescu: i said "Something to sell", i didn't say nudity. that's free.
decimation: plenty of 'homemakers' are poor in the us
mircea_popescu: decimation not the question. the question is why is anyone else on the "just about rich" lists outside of these women.
mircea_popescu: why are atheltes poor if the stench of cunt bothers you, same argument.
assbot: Logged on 04-08-2015 00:49:35; mircea_popescu: let him sign up for myfreecams and do anal until there's blood on the fucking dildos.
assbot: Logged on 03-08-2015 17:32:52; mike_c: um, no?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you've reconstructed the discussion into a strawman and are getting the results you expected from it.
assbot: Logged on 21-02-2015 01:19:34; mircea_popescu: "she's been going through 6-7k each month since autumn, but i get to go visit p diddy whenever i feel like it. it's a wash"
decimation: well, there's also the social status of being the old jew who owns reddit
assbot: Logged on 04-08-2015 02:08:03; mircea_popescu: decimation this doesn't explain why the old farts are getting most of the fake bills.
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decimation: asciilifeform: yes, that was my point..
decimation: this is why I find the baby boomer whining about old people medical care and old people direct payments
decimation: "keep mailing us your taxes, your missing bank interest, and your real estate equity. Someone will totally mail you theirs when we are dead!"
decimation: asciilifeform: not that they had children who were raised to be +ev so they could afford to whipe dad's ass when he's old"
decimation: be on the receiving end of the above payments
decimation: which means you need to have a house bought before 1980 and be older than 65
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah except if you read my initial link, old people have 47x more wealth than <35
decimation: I suppose my hypothesis is that if assets were demoninated in actual hard currency they wouldn't be able to run this kind of ponzi
decimation: but home equity comes from bank debt, which comes from the combination of how much maturity transformation is allowed and how much money the fed prints..
decimation: well, to go to mircea's point, he can't buy 30 year old health
decimation: let's be more reasonable and say he's 65
decimation: asciilifeform: I made this point awhile ago about 'roth' ira accounts
decimation: they are better in the sense that usg promises not to charge further tax
decimation: you can even give to schmuckson jr - but as soon as he gets his hands on it the clock starts
gernika: Not much of it would make it to schmuckson jr after gift tax
decimation: no my point is that usg demands jr drains the account
decimation: why put that provision in the law at all?
decimation: unless you were intentionally ensuring that 'schmucksons' couldn't become wealthy enough to tell usg to fuck off...
decimation: but to connect with your point, clearly as long as you are wholly owned by usg, doing business in its monopoly money, don't be surprised when 'it giveth and taketh away'
decimation: if nursing home, doctor, real estate - had to be paid for in gold that couldn't be magicked into existance, the prices would change rapidly...
decimation: plus you would need fake 'blue collar' credentials
decimation: didn't last psychiatrist have a post about what is needed to 'prove' you are 'poor'? like no job, ever?
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decimation: asciilifeform: since you already have a record of paying taxes you can't fake disability
decimation: they will apply and qualify for the appropriate gov't subsidies too
decimation: asciilifeform: the raw fact is that around 60-70% of the us 18-65 population is only capable of 'unskilled' labor of this type at best
decimation: especially if he doesn't want to keep to a 'push shit out the door we'll fix it later' schedule
decimation: asciilifeform: somewhat related, I was reading about system 360 earlier today
decimation: interestingly even though there were many thousands made, hardly any survive
decimation: yeah there's a smbx 3600 keyboard on ebay for 1800
gernika: Following up on the "programmer lock-in" thread. Let's say you somehow saved up some capital and want to get out. What do you buy with the small amount of capital? Convencience store? Restaurant? Who will work there? Not your cousin from India - you're 3rd gen. American/Brittish/Whatever.
decimation: gernika: that's kinda the point of the earlier converation. as long as you count your wealth in usd, you are owned by usg and are wealthy at their pleasure
gernika: decimation You're right I see the tie-in.
decimation: asciilifeform: but the point I was making with the s/360 is that apparently the one the FAA used for ARTCC was a 'triplex' computer with full voting!
decimation: no wonder it took them 40 years to 'replace' it
decimation: I would bet $20 that they aren't gonna use a 'triplex' computer to replace it
decimation: I actually visited a fully-operating s/360 working at an faa ARTCC as a youth
decimation: the most impressive thing was the wall of lead-acid batteries - meant to run the thing for 10 minutes while the generators kicked-on
decimation: I recall the working s/360 as being very ... large
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decimation: asciilifeform: actually it's a good point (the u2) - you see the results with that f16 vs cessna crash
decimation: us mil operates 'outside civilian system' on us soil to some degree
decimation: thus setting up the ironic situation where one side of usg wants to clamp down on 100 foot drone-flying while f16s blaze around where they please
decimation: and furthermore their brand new 'air traffic management' computer is vulnerable to resource starvation