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(pest) asciilifeform speculated re the reasons for this, but not knows for certain wtf, personally has only a pile of items dks was willing to sell for money + small collection of quite antique docs from various people
(pest) asciilifeform: (some will even eschew actual 'timeless' worx like dks, dijkstra, etc. if curator not tuned into subj enuff to shelve'em in maffs)
(pest) asciilifeform: btw such lulcows are the reason why lispm keyboard is nearly unattainable nao (formerly dks sold'em for ~100$ a piece)
(pest) phf[busybot]: i had various opportunities to pick up macivory, framethrower, 3860 at reasonable price from dks, but i'm mostly content playing with that stuff when visiting the house of the whisperer you met
(pest) asciilifeform recognized the bolix console and console game title in phf's pic; and 'framethrower' ( dks: 'hey wanna buy 3640 instead of 3620, could then put 'framethrower'' a: 'not fits in this toyota' )
(pest) asciilifeform would buy that emulator, fair an' square, like bought other dksisms, if were forsale
(pest) asciilifeform 1st time bought a lispm from dks, did so largely to get the cds. and bummer, was ~same as the warez one, lol
(pest) phf[asciilifeform]: dks is a skilled salesman, and to a great extent he's milking rock here
(pest) asciilifeform: to dks's credit, he did sell to asciilifeform his (claimed -- last) stock of spare 'ivory' cpu. (likely knowing full well for what to be used)
(pest) dulapbot: (asciilifeform) 2022-04-07 asciilifeform: re dks , imho rather odd that feeding him for yr+ still dun getcha distinguished from 'autistic redditus'. but nfi.
(pest) phf[asciilifeform]: asciilifeform, dks being the last known face of symbolics, i suspect he gets lots of communication, and more often than not from crackpots :>
(pest) asciilifeform: iirc phf even had story where dks recounted 'didja know, 1 nut offered...'
(pest) asciilifeform at one time offered to dks 'let's make fpga subst for macivory' but, unsurprisingly, he had no reason to trust 'farther than could throw' so no, not paid
(pest) asciilifeform: if had to guess, would guess he used material from dks given on understanding that 'wouldnt be used for anyffin at all'
(pest) asciilifeform: fwiw as soon as asciilifeform bought the 'ivory', posted its complete disk image on www. not even dks complained.
(pest) asciilifeform: iirc dks even left a snide comment on 'piratebay' -- 'thank you for downloading finest software envir ever devised...'
(pest) asciilifeform: the go-to example is dks's tale re some .mil shithole (ft drum?) where bona fide bolix boxen (as of '10) were still in use, 'these being the only 1s that not 1ce crashed'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: signed on, if you will, to play role of dks, w/out the pension
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: re dks , imho rather odd that feeding him for yr+ still dun getcha distinguished from 'autistic redditus'. but nfi.
(asciilifeform) phf: yeah see it's shit like that. why don't you approach mallory instead who is the actual owner of symbolics? see how far you can get. dks actually does things, but then neither you nor mp believe in the whisperers approach, which is fine by me
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: phf: speaking of old folx, asciilifeform to this day puzzles re wai dks 100% impervious to commercial collab. esp. given as usg seems to have cut him off.
(asciilifeform) phf: i knew a handful of biplane people, and they were very salt of earth. dks is one of them, and he's an army man, smart, shrewd operator, but not much into classics
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: afaik bought up all the spares dks was willing to part with.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: (trilema) 2017-03-10 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: since '09 or so i was one of very few people publicly interested in reversing the bolix gear. and apparently ~all of the aficionados, saw me as 'dangerous fool' who 'might piss off dks'...
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: (trilema) 2016-05-12 asciilifeform: phf: last thing dks said to me was that the rights to the whole shebang were bought at auction by prof j mallery of mit/nsa.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: doesn't hurt to check ebay periodically also (mine was from dks via ebay)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: if you want actual machine, write to dks, he might have 1 or 2 left
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform purchased what appears to have been dks's entire remaining stock of cpus, for delayering+microscopy. they're still virginal, in crate.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ( dks normally includes'em, they're worth coupla hundy at most )
(asciilifeform) shinohai: asciilifeform: Latest job for me is updating a coin based off LTC so will build under musl on alpine. Array overflow occurs in scrypt.cpp because of "scratchpad" size. https://github.com/FredKSchott/litecoin/blob/exp-0.8-backports/src/scrypt.cpp
(trilema) dorion: 2 was out of poorly documented dissatisfaction with bb ash, yet he said, "perhaps his pdksh can be of use."
(trilema) dorion: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-03-11#1959434 - hm, in that conversation there were 4 points where it was noted Gales goes outside busybox : 1) MAKEDEV instead of busybox mdev , 2) jfw's genesis of pdksh vs busybox ash 3) jfw's 47 line init vs bb's and 4) daemontools instead of bb's runit.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: zeder: as i understand, dks no longer has a stockpile of these machines, but sometimes he buys one back from an experimenter , and then usually puts on ebay.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: example, 'macivory' machine, bought from dks in '18.
(trilema) asciilifeform: ( dks dug up a crate of cpu, i bought a coupla )
(trilema) asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-01#1899898 << would be pretty great. i wrote to dks again re the PALs , and re whether he has any moar cpus , dead or alive, to sell, so far no answr
(trilema) asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: phf is 9000x moar genius spy than asciilifeform , evidently -- i tried 9000 ways to sweet-talk dks into 'lemme into that warehouse', summed to 0
(trilema) asciilifeform: the sinners in the story aren't even dks et al, but the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-21#1882442 folx, the 'masonic oaths' they swear are largely ~to each other~, creating a hitler out of vacuum
(trilema) asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to add moar weird to the story, last night dks actually answered, with 'i'ma dig for some PAL stuff, will write back after newyear'. old man simply moves slowly. ( and notice that i did not have to swear masonic oath to him !111 )
(trilema) mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the one thing that blows my mind is the compartimentalization. "you either own the computer or else work for the usg" is somehow self-evident ; "you either own the woman or else work for the usg" is magically not, because "it was not clear to me dks was the woman in our relationship, what is the similarity between the dangly-bait cunt in each case ?!?!?!"
(trilema) asciilifeform: i was told 11 yrs ago by dks that 'people are working on releasing the goods, it will take politics'. fast fwd 11y. 0 releases.
(trilema) asciilifeform: for all you know, some rubbish dks scribbled on a napkin in 1991 is the key.
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2018-12-18 22:40 asciilifeform: phf srsly what gives ? wai not just post the uncensored dump. dks certainly aint coming to moscow to shit in your air conditioner.
(trilema) asciilifeform: re dks, it wouldn't strongly surprise asciilifeform to learn that d00d finally read the l0gz, and got wind of what asciilifeform wants the PALs for, and now 'silent like partizan'
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2018-12-18 22:25 asciilifeform: this thing was quite evidently built to be repairable, by dks et al.
(trilema) asciilifeform: as recently as 2010, that logistics thing was still in biz and running bolixen (iirc 'xl' variant), dks admitted.
(trilema) asciilifeform: dks is the latter's slave
(trilema) asciilifeform: phf srsly what gives ? wai not just post the uncensored dump. dks certainly aint coming to moscow to shit in your air conditioner.
(trilema) asciilifeform: this thing was quite evidently built to be repairable, by dks et al.
(trilema) lobbesbot: phf: Sent 17 hours and 5 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> didja ever try asking dks for PAL src's ?
(trilema) asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf didja ever try asking dks for PAL src's ?
(trilema) asciilifeform: phf: the 2nd link contains dks patches
(trilema) asciilifeform: for comparison, http://www.lispmachine.net/symbolics.txt is identical to the document i got from dks in '07. quotes 3.2k for the exact box i uncrated today.
(trilema) phf: asciilifeform, that's entirely my impression. the xl that i bought went at asking price, because ^ wasn't bidding, the rest of them were bought by the same guy, and he was bidding against a handful of desperados. i suspect that the whole thing was a fluke, or rather the Rembrandt market was a combination of luck and skill on the part of dks
(trilema) asciilifeform wonders where dks gets the oddball bios batteries the ancient crapples took
(trilema) asciilifeform: in other noose, phf , mircea_popescu , et al, the bolix is here. dks packs a++ , princely, all parts on manifest , and kilometre of bubbles. will post photos as soon as i wrap up my albatross of this week, ch14
(trilema) asciilifeform miser, prolly oughta have gone to dks and bought 1 of these aeons ago. hell, the comp i'm sitting on nao cost > than the thing
(trilema) phf: re dks and fpga, i'm also not sure that he has enough data, or if he even knows if he has enough, or if the "master" in question has enough. i'm starting to suspect that the reason nothing's moving forward is because it's an intellectual bezel, a cat that's alive only until observed
(trilema) asciilifeform: tho i suppose could also be cuz asciilifeform successfully persuaded the salt mine he toiled in at the time, to buy alpha+genera, paying dks's rent for month or 2
(trilema) asciilifeform: phf: funnily enuff, i did the gnarl of the bus already, during (aborted) proj for dks where he asked 'make me a replacement crapple mem expander board for nubus'
(trilema) lobbesbot: phf: Sent 1 day, 9 hours, and 1 minute ago: <asciilifeform> loox like dks is selling another! 'ivory' on lulzbay >> https://archive.is/Bkm8E
(trilema) asciilifeform: and hah, loox like dks is also selling a https://www.ebay.com/itm/Symbolics-XL401-lisp-workstation-with-Genera-8-3/113419020606 ( phf-style machine ) nao . it is not however fit for the experiment, much moar complex board ( given as it's a standalone box )
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2018-12-03 16:48 asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf loox like dks is selling another! 'ivory' on lulzbay >> https://archive.is/Bkm8E
(trilema) asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf loox like dks is selling another! 'ivory' on lulzbay >> https://archive.is/Bkm8E
(trilema) asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: house, was fulla iron, old moldy cards, hdds, consoles. dks was/is a repairman, afaik mechanical engineer orig by trade .
(trilema) asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: dks ? made pretty convincing case that they aint at his house ( but whoknows )
(trilema) lobbesbot: phf: Sent 2 days, 2 hours, and 23 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> in bolix lulz : loox like dks relisted that 'ivory' for 3rd time nao... apparently not so many eager-worth-of-$5k archaeologists any moar
(trilema) asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf in bolix lulz : loox like dks relisted that 'ivory' for 3rd time nao... apparently not so many eager-worth-of-$5k archaeologists any moar
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2018-07-18 12:32 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-18#1835696 << i believe at least in the case of allegro the ownership is the dks/symbolics model (or perhaps soekris model), guy who made it sells it and there's enough sales money to periodically fund developers, add new features, etc (considering that some of the contracts are finance and gov)
(trilema) phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-18#1835696 << i believe at least in the case of allegro the ownership is the dks/symbolics model (or perhaps soekris model), guy who made it sells it and there's enough sales money to periodically fund developers, add new features, etc (considering that some of the contracts are finance and gov)
(trilema) mircea_popescu: eg, https://i.imgur.com/DKSAxns.jpg ; fellow's being clever, what can you do.
(trilema) asciilifeform: neither dks nor reti are really needed, to provide this 'support'.
(trilema) fromloper: asciilifeform: maybe he'll give up if something happens to DKS and Kalman Reti so he'll be out of people capable to do the job, both of them are rather old
(trilema) mircea_popescu: so, in the 1990s, after the purge dkscj
(trilema) asciilifeform: ( reti is the other half of dks-and-reti skeleton crew )
(trilema) asciilifeform: the one dks gave out to all junk buyers. it is also on warez ( on 'piratebay' to this day afaik )
(trilema) asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701775 << the original bolix emulator was handwritten in asm for dec alpha ( which is why dks sells (sold?) alphas, http://www.loper-os.org/?p=186 ) . the x86-64 port never ~quite~ worked, it was a hasty c rewrite.
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2017-08-21 14:49 phf: now i didn't find out about race conditions myself, that data point came from dks, they discovered race conditions as part of the emulator rewrite, but they have the benefit of having access to the necessary low level bits
(trilema) asciilifeform: phf: what you & dks et al observed is called complexity shitstack collapse.
(trilema) phf: now i didn't find out about race conditions myself, that data point came from dks, they discovered race conditions as part of the emulator rewrite, but they have the benefit of having access to the necessary low level bits
(trilema) asciilifeform recently spoke with yet another 'but dks! but john mallery and nsa!' d00d
(trilema) asciilifeform: it is almost like the ice40 aficionados are following the 'bolix-whisperers' 'we dun wanna piss off dks!111' school of thought
(trilema) asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc dks still services an eternal contract with usg that runs on bolix and nuffin else.
(trilema) asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you can see sum of dks's income on usaspending.gov
(trilema) asciilifeform: phf: looks like dks is now selling... a harley
(trilema) phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-03#1693151 << what do you mean by that? we discussed him in logs, he's got fuck you money, which he burns on symbolics hardware from dks
(trilema) asciilifeform: phf: dks listed a... plane engine, for sale
(trilema) Framedragger: https://recon.cx/2014/slides/Recon%202014%20Skochinsky.pdf << nothing new, but sat down to read some slides about teh backdoor in question, more technical details, decent overview imho. "slides" because info needs to be patched up from proprietary intel SDKs etc etc
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2017-03-11 01:11 mircea_popescu: i can't bring myself to move my piss away from dks, or anyone in his generation's face.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: ie, they may have proven themselves to you, but they have not to me. as far as im concerned, stroutsup = dks = tim swanson = leah what's her ass = etcetera.
(trilema) asciilifeform: dks is ~90 yr old now
(trilema) asciilifeform: and dks, and whole orchestra.
(trilema) phf: i don't know anyone who has direct line of communication to kalman, short of dks, but brad parker is notoriously spotty at communication and 4 emails is ~simply not enough~
(trilema) mircea_popescu: i can't bring myself to move my piss away from dks, or anyone in his generation's face.
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2017-03-11 00:42 phf: the timing of this rant is amusing, because i'm flying out to dks's tomorrow. which is why last time we talked about it i ~explicitly asked you not to rant about this in public~. if nobody cares about symbolics proper, then people certainly do care about the fickle opinions of older men, who are sitting on irreplaceable treasure troves of smbx technology.
(trilema) asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: since '09 or so i was one of very few people publicly interested in reversing the bolix gear. and apparently ~all of the aficionados, saw me as 'dangerous fool' who 'might piss off dks'...
(trilema) asciilifeform: this includes dks, incidentally, who wouldn't even answer my mail after my lab closed down
(trilema) asciilifeform: nobody's gonna 'legit manufacture' it, phf , even if dks and that nsa d00d who owns him, do an 'official' release.
(trilema) phf: the timing of this rant is amusing, because i'm flying out to dks's tomorrow. which is why last time we talked about it i ~explicitly asked you not to rant about this in public~. if nobody cares about symbolics proper, then people certainly do care about the fickle opinions of older men, who are sitting on irreplaceable treasure troves of smbx technology.
(trilema) asciilifeform: tried 'humint' even. asked dks, for instance, to name a price (he wouldn't)
(trilema) asciilifeform: Framedragger: dks , if you didn't know, is the last known paid employee of smbx co.
(trilema) asciilifeform: dks even mentioned the warez install cd to me
(trilema) asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-10#1624127 << the classic alpha ver you described was in one of the subdirs, aha. and a recent g5 one (that dks mentioned to me in 2010 when he delivered the long-awaited genera alpha to my rupturefarm)
(trilema) asciilifeform: nao we know where dks's stockpile went.
(trilema) phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-08#1623101 << yes, and since i just burned a bunch of cash on a vacation, i won't be bidding on any of these machines, but dks is selling an xl1201 and two macivories
(trilema) asciilifeform: and it's dks selling, looks like
(trilema) mircea_popescu: "Backend was completely on Amazon Web Services •It was planned to migrate Parse to Facebook’s infrastructure (e.g. Haystack, Tao, F4, Extended Apache Giraph, Gorilla) but the project was abandoned •Roughly 8 developers working on SDKs, 8 on the server, 8 DevOps + a few more engineers" <<< 1) no it was not "planned", fuckwads don't have mp certificate in planning, may not claim they are engaging in any planning. the prop
(trilema) asciilifeform: i even offered to dks to make formal commercial partnership to build clone, and he gave impression that he was interested but unfree to agree
(trilema) phf: i'm hoping that for my deeds dks will grant me a boon, "i asked 'er for a hair from her head. she gave me three"
(trilema) phf: right, so vax goes for a fraction of the cost. still same guy who put me in touch with dks, and spends 5k on each bolix, will spend fraction of that on a vax, because "it ain't bolix of course, but it's still cool"
(trilema) mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://www.loper-os.org/pub/einsatzgruppen_jewdetector.png <<< 3rd Party Device SDKs!!!!1111eleven
(trilema) mircea_popescu: atm looks a lot more like someone in tax shelters is using this to hide from a few mn worth of tax liability ; than thiel or anyone else wanting to give yudks as much as a half smoked marlboro.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: that's how cars ended up with a dollop of hot plastic on top. "suv"s my foot. it's just ldks, for "locals don't know shit"
(trilema) asciilifeform: phf: last thing dks said to me was that the rights to the whole shebang were bought at auction by prof j mallery of mit/nsa.
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(trilema) ascii_field: dkschmidt at 2007-08-15 02:24 CET:
(trilema) ascii_field: https://tpbonion.com/torrent/3769989/Symbolics_Open_Genera_2.0_for_Alpha_-_complete_package_with_Lisp << afaik the 1st comment on this mega-t0rr3nt was the only thing dks ever said in public
(trilema) ascii_field: dks is apparently alive, and symbolics has quadrupled its yearly revenue,
(trilema) asciilifeform: especially now that dks has run short of parts (as, by all indications, he has, or we wouldn't be having this conversation..)
(trilema) asciilifeform: cazalla: except that dks is not rich. he is a very old man living in a very small house - and - at least when i visited - had a boarder.
(trilema) asciilifeform: or perhaps not dks. no idea.
(trilema) asciilifeform: cazalla: looks like dks's house, aha
(trilema) mircea_popescu: somehow this point is very hard to grok for the DKs.
(trilema) asciilifeform: like dks and the lisp machine blueprints, aha
(trilema) asciilifeform: i specifically asked dks for those
(trilema) asciilifeform: trinque: dks used to supply the mac and video board to go with it, when you bought from him
(trilema) asciilifeform: http://www.symbolics-dks.com << if you want one, talk to this fella
(trilema) asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i was told by dks in no uncertain terms that lisp machine can never be mailed.
(trilema) gribble: Symbolics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbolics>; Symbolics.com : The first and oldest registered domain name on the ...: <http://symbolics.com/>; Symbolics, Inc.: <http://www.symbolics-dks.com/>
(trilema) asciilifeform: ^ used to be 'symbolics.com' - oldest registered .com - in fact. but dks sold it to spammers (yes) to pay bills a few yrs ago.
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(trilema) asciilifeform: i doubt the contract will be honoured when dks finally succumbs to old age
(trilema) ThickAsThieves: much like when WoW introduced DKs
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