Results 1 ... 69 found in all logged channels for 'sslism'
(pest) asciilifeform fwiw has 0 intention of emplacing sslisms on any of his www's
(pest) asciilifeform: (imho no need to mutilate the thing with sslism, instead asciilifeform needs a patched browser on his toilet box)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-07-07#1110799 << asciilifeform walked around for many yrs looking at heathen (nominally) 'p2p' items, errywhere found some moxyesque absurdities/atrocities (e.g. acceptance of heavy memory/cpu load from strangers ; sslism; bernsteinism; and, more often than not, sham-'p2p' where some nodes
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ( whai have sslism idjicy in the mix, when dun have to ?? )
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform also has yet to encounter even 1 which doesn't push some form of sslism
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-27#1067809 << no dns, no sslism, no wwwism, misc. liquishit. no central anything.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: wonder what dafuq sslism is doing in there ( and rly, not as optional turd, but won't link w/out it ?? )
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: shinohai: asciilifeform was unable to connect to whatever the fuck remained of fleanode even w/ sslism
(asciilifeform) shinohai: btw I abandoned #therealbitcoin chan on fleanode when they did the forced sslism thing, so dunno if jurov wants to keep it going or abandon when he resurfaces.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ( when tried sslism via znc, got only barf )
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: billymg: i found that mine could no longer connect, demands sslism
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: my understanding is that it mandates sslism for it, and would have to be patched to even try
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: gregory4: it sucks mightily, tries to force sslism, and is massive ball o'shit , even heavier than 'ratbox'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: whaack: make sure you don't have sslism enabled inadvertently
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-06-22 23:56:41 bonechewer: Speaking of 'balls of C shit', I have no idea whether this [https://github.com/ngircd/ngircd] [ground-up rewrite] is worth being aware of, but at least it can be linked statically without sslism.
(asciilifeform) bonechewer: Speaking of 'balls of C shit', I have no idea whether this [https://github.com/ngircd/ngircd] [ground-up rewrite] is worth being aware of, but at least it can be linked statically without sslism.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: atrocious garbage. otoh so is 'unreal', which ~forces~ sslism for all server-server linkage
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: signpost: 'unrealircd' was supposedly popular, i remembered it from earlier times, but actually setting it up was a 1st class bitch, and it seems to force sslism in 'over 9000' places, and overall maximally byzantine config
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: signpost: aapparently the 4.x that actually builds on gentoo, all are remotely crashable via the (non-disableable) sslism. which is ugh.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: there's an sslism btw at port 6697, but only because the package i used offered no way to disable, lol. i do not intend to support its use in the future (but if you have irc client which insists on sslistic connection, e.g. crapple's, can use.)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: a minus of irc is that peering requires a somewhat laborious process for each link; and my understanding is that also relies on sslism.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-05-18#1036645 << it's considerably ~simpler~ than the tcp+sslism shitstack
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: thimbronion: on top of this, irc as we have it forces either plaintext pw, or sslism, both of which suck
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-02-14 16:45:32 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-02-13#1031522 << you realize why google et al force-feed sslism, right ? ( mainly -- to prevent effective ad filtration )
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-02-13#1031522 << you realize why google et al force-feed sslism, right ? ( mainly -- to prevent effective ad filtration )
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-12-31#1027909 >> 'I'm told of how I put others in danger by serving my website without encryption' << these agitprop whines aint about 'encryption', but rather sslism in particular. which is simply the leading brand of nsa-curated trojancrypto.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: shinohai: wasn't even a sslism barf, iirc. simply, none of my gnats would swallow the thing w/out sea of eggog
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: trinque: imho it's quite analogous to e.g. sslism. ( recall various threads where a n00b was horrified from 'we dun ssl' )
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-08-07#1018091 << the pill for sslism aint 'xyz ssl', but 'just say NO'(tm)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: for extra bonus, strip off any sslism present -- roughly 1 in 3 idiots dun notice
(therealbitcoin) asciilifeform: for my part, i'ma rip out the ssl crapola an' replace w/ ffa. (dunno if anyone ~else~ wants such a trb, but i'm personally tired of sslism)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: superkuh: take the next step and nix sslism.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: at least he had pgp-eater rather than sslism, afaik all the other bitcoin xyzetc's were (and to this day are) stuck w/ sslism joke
(ossasepia) asciilifeform: none of my proggies used sslism for anyffin. (i did not have trb on this dulap, and trb carries own ssl tarball)
(ossasepia) asciilifeform: diana_coman: gentoo pulls tarballs from portage repos, and afaik cannot be installed w/out ~some~ sslism
(trilema) BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Per their docs it should work without sslism per http://archive.is/dm0Z0#selection-181.30-191.59
(trilema) asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i aint about to use sslism.
(trilema) asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: possibly grandfathered. when asciilifeform experimented w/ no-sslism connect via own (cloakistic) nick, ended up w/ displayed ip.
(trilema) BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It does appear the SSLism for cloaks is still optional, but a delay needs to be inserted between authentication and joining channels
(trilema) asciilifeform: just as , i suspect, there were a coupla sane, honest folx even on sslism committee...
(ossasepia) snsabot: Logged on 2018-09-12 10:30:41 asciilifeform: a major function of sslism is to hinder ~user~ from examining ~own~ packets. this must end.
(trilema) asciilifeform: so sit it under znc. why suffer with sslism in own proggy.
(trilema) asciilifeform: rright but e.g. my bot is sslism-free
(trilema) asciilifeform: if somebody's sat for ~minute~ , sounds like sslism ( not in use on dulap and never will be )
(trilema) asciilifeform: theoretically can sit it down behind znc, and run sslism to fleanode, but i fuckinhate sslism
(trilema) asciilifeform: it's either sslism or plaintext 'errybody in same cage sees'
(trilema) asciilifeform: girlattorney: are you familiar with the actual purpose of sslism ?
(trilema) spyked: so far I've been looking at the project changelog and the patch history and the patches seem like a mixed bunch, with (perhaps) some useful things and breakage a la sslism. so before going further, I'd like to get some idea of what version of hunchentoot the lordship and the L2 are using
(trilema) asciilifeform: lol just when asciilifeform begins to think 'maybe they have clue' -- out comes the systemdism, sslism
(trilema) asciilifeform: stratum: one doesn't even need to sit on hitler's throne to bypass sslism; typical idjit os comes with root certs from such shitholes as e.g. greece and latvia
(trilema) trinque: but yep, will get a build out without sslism and see what happens.
(trilema) asciilifeform: trinque: hm, apparently i was wrong about this, it only demands sslism if yer using cloaks
(trilema) asciilifeform: whole point, ~unexplored~ corners, deliberately proddable, in the ~orig~ shitoshi sslism
(trilema) asciilifeform: for that matter, why does cuntoo need to include own sslism, afaik the only proggy that hard-depends on having one is trb
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2018-09-12 14:18 asciilifeform: btw mircea_popescu reminds me , trinque : here's an idea, let's banish the 'root certs' and any systemwide sslism from cuntoo. if user demands it , let him install locally.
(trilema) asciilifeform: but of course it dungo with sslism crapola
(trilema) asciilifeform: billymg: on list of 'definitely nobody in his right mind will use' -- sslism comes to mind
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2018-09-12 14:18 asciilifeform: btw mircea_popescu reminds me , trinque : here's an idea, let's banish the 'root certs' and any systemwide sslism from cuntoo. if user demands it , let him install locally.
(trilema) asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: sslism cannot be terraformed and rebuilt for any constructive use, imho. it must die.
(trilema) asciilifeform: a major function of sslism is to hinder ~user~ from examining ~own~ packets. this must end.
(trilema) asciilifeform: btw mircea_popescu reminds me , trinque : here's an idea, let's banish the 'root certs' and any systemwide sslism from cuntoo. if user demands it , let him install locally.
(trilema) asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: typical 'gox' is moar of a plain paypal / sslism thing, rather than js
(trilema) asciilifeform: with generous helpings of c pointerolade, opensslism, mathemadturbatorily- squigglymarked pdfolade, tall claims of 'formal verification', etc
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2018-04-05 18:59 asciilifeform: unrelatedly, trinque , ever looked into purging sslism from gentoo ? in particular the existence of /etc/ca-certificates.conf and its contents as a ~mandatory package, i find quite irritating
(trilema) asciilifeform: i.e. sslism is treated as 'special' and 'precious' evidently in >1 place
(trilema) asciilifeform: unrelatedly, trinque , ever looked into purging sslism from gentoo ? in particular the existence of /etc/ca-certificates.conf and its contents as a ~mandatory package, i find quite irritating
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