mircea_popescu: one sec let me figure out how the fuck you handle the autovoice lists
snsabot: asciilifeform: my valid commands are: seen, s, src, help, uptime
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 15:43:31 mircea_popescu: dun dun dun.
mircea_popescu: i don't fucking get it though. how the fuck do lobbesbot and scriba have voice ?
mircea_popescu: aite, im not gonna add auctionbot and lobbesbot to +V list then, because they're like... the only bots that don't suck ?
mircea_popescu: blessed be the innocent, they don't even know what happened lolz.
mircea_popescu: is there more stuff i need to do while op'd actually ?
PeterL: good to see things back up and running!
mircea_popescu: hey BingoBoingo now that i can drop it in, do you recall the lafond article
in question ? i remember fucking reading it, but i can't find it again ;/
mircea_popescu: -ChanServ- [#trilema] To speak in #trilema you must be voiced. If you have a RSA key registered with deedbot, send !!up to it in a private message, decrypt the challenge string and return it with !!v ; else politely ask one of the voiced people to voice you. << meanwhile became total bs.
mircea_popescu: /msg ChanServ SET #trilema ENTRYMSG To speak here you must be voiced by one of the lords. Talk to asciilifeform , BingoBoingo , diana_coman , hanbot , trinque
mircea_popescu: ^ anyone else actively maintaining a castle i forgot in the list ?
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't send anyone to learn from mod6 as things stand.
PeterL: maybe point to the castles? (Bingoboingo at #pizarro, etc) but that might make the message too long?
PeterL: yeah, I guess if somebody messages you then you can just say "talk to me in #whatever"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 15:43:31 mircea_popescu: dun dun dun.
mircea_popescu: i guess there's no way i can wiggle out of this, is there
mircea_popescu: do you realise every time i do a keyop it's ~half hour of slavegirl time going blind on asciisoup ?
mircea_popescu: i mean yes i got multiples, and the flesh is willing... but my spirit's weak, i confess i kinda like them.
mircea_popescu: yea ; or i could've jus ttaken ocr guns along. but somehow i was naive, the romanticism of the idea appealed at the onset.
mircea_popescu: i have working ocrtron, just, didn't pack it. already diana ross over here, 200+lbs of shit.
mircea_popescu: every time girls start unloading bags airline checkin woman's eyes widen
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, oh oh. mine are the actual guns. i dunno, not THAT heavy, more bulky i guess. and rigid and so on. i should get newer, but then can you trust newer hardware ?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, do we run a logger on minigame servers btw ? or no webserver keks
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, is there any mutualization in the end, or not yet ? imo one massive win would be for loggers to put out ~signed~ dumps so they can mutually sync
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, items from the 80s, reliable, because back then um process. items from 2010s, who the fuck knows what ic is in there and what it does /
mircea_popescu: apparently can't find online. japanese thing, white plastic, squarish
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: we don't run a logger; the site is on shared hosting with pizarro
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, yeah, though "more reaearch needed", seems direct stepping stone to gossipd after all.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: hm; the chan is meant to be official rather than community (like eulorum) so I suppose at some point we should, shouldn't we;
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, conceivably. besides, he has a point, not bad to have another one.
mircea_popescu: though in fact not that great if all on pizarro either
diana_coman: well, I surely plan to run another bot myself, yes
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, honestly i wouldn't worry about this, let's see who steals it.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: no idea yet; and on one hand there's merit to "other than pizarro" but onth ugh where "other"
mircea_popescu: as crazy joe davola once said, "i like to encourage intruders"
diana_coman: tbh I also don't quite grok what's the status re irc as there was the plan to move and so on
mircea_popescu: it's a data visualization, back then i ran a ro digg ; that's users / activity.
mircea_popescu: it might be nice, have something like that for loggers, you know. though i dun specifically know what.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, the plan was to first federate, then move. we're not progressing re federation.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i asked for it ; and then i didn't find it that useful either. i'm guessing i just don't understand what wuld be useful exactly.
mircea_popescu: ima have to train myself into comprehension that indeed, we've finally come to sanity, can now add knobsd.
diana_coman: fwiw I noticed and very much liked that knob, asciilifeform !
snsabot: mircea_popescu: my valid commands are: seen, s, src, help, uptime
snsabot: asciilifeform: this command is not yet implemented.
snsabot: mircea_popescu: my valid commands are: seen, s, src, help, uptime
snsabot: asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 0d 1h 0m
snsabot: mircea_popescu: my valid commands are: seen, s, src, help, uptime
snsabot: mircea_popescu: my valid commands are: seen, s, src, help, uptime
mircea_popescu: maybe. tnh i dunno. maybe we end up standardizing some kinda help format.
snsabot: diana_coman: my valid commands are: seen, s, src, help, uptime
snsabot: asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 0d 1h 1m
PeterL: It's been a while since I coded a bot, is it possible to send a PING when you hit timeout rather then going straight to reconnecting?
mircea_popescu: spyked, feedbot choked on having to send me too many rss lines lol. can it come back ?
diana_coman: and I find out I didn't miss at all not using python for years; onth no idea what else would be better for such a task since it can't be really clean anyway
diana_coman: asciilifeform: do you have any suggestion for what might "sumthingelse" reasonably be? because I can't see it
diana_coman: and ftr I have no idea why did the other bots go for lisp anyway, did I miss somewhere the rationale for it?
diana_coman: ultimately sure; currently I don't know; I even sketched quickly an Ada thing - main trouble though is lack of proper db interface (and otherwise relying on GNAT.Sockets and therefore the whole strand of streams etc)
diana_coman: yes, my current understanding is exactly that - it's a stink anyway and unavoidably so might as well use python, at least it's quick and relatively clear
diana_coman: yep; but if you use gnat.sockets you already eat that too anyway; so lots of stink in already.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 16:54:53 mircea_popescu: spyked, feedbot choked on having to send me too many rss lines lol. can it come back ?
spyked: aaand feedbot's back in business. /me bbl
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 16:57:14 asciilifeform: diana_coman: i use python as 'less carcinogenic' perl
mircea_popescu: i use... bash as least carcinogenic perl/python/php mysefl
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 16:59:01 diana_coman: and ftr I have no idea why did the other bots go for lisp anyway, did I miss somewhere the rationale for it?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 17:05:07 asciilifeform: snsabot and its www end are imho usably snappy, but you can tell that they run in interpreter, visibly slower than phf's
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 17:20:05 spyked:
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-08#1926408 <-- on it. gotta run to sleep afterwards, but will be back in the morning and get up to date with l0gz. meanwhile, is it okay if I remove trilema comment PMs from the bot's message queue? otherwise it'll keep sending when I bring it back up, lol.
mircea_popescu: freenode wants 1s delay between msgs, and bot seems to try and do that but maybe add a 50ms buffer on top or somethign ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 17:54:51 mircea_popescu: freenode wants 1s delay between msgs, and bot seems to try and do that but maybe add a 50ms buffer on top or somethign ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i realise now i didn't even spec the bot correctly, it's supposed to multiline if multi links
mircea_popescu: no i;m saying, current behaviour is corrdct but not per spec
mircea_popescu: not what the spec ~actually~ satys, but i guess you went per tradition.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 18:41:20 mircea_popescu: lesee here
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, did the fg / kernel thing ever make sense to you ?
BingoBoingo: !!rate thimbronion 1 new, wandered into #pizarro
BingoBoingo: !!v 3792D532B83EBC298FFCDBB4461CE757F74FAAF6E80B9FD739A36A90215E8D6F
deedbot: BingoBoingo rated thimbronion 1 << new, wandered into #pizarro
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 15:52:05 asciilifeform: so, hm, loox like he has gpgism ? or, did trinque have speshulcase table
lobbes: it would be a patch off of the command_router_python, however
lobbes: iirc spyked actually already has a vpatch for a gpgism that uses the "stored otp" method
lobbes: meaning you have to manually tell the bot to voice each time. no prolly not ideal
lobbes: i.e. I issue a command, and then the bot handles the rest
lobbes: not sure the details of it though
lobbes: Re: my php logotron, I still intend to grunt that out, vpatch it, and stand up loggers. In addition I have no plans to discontinue any of my existing infrastructure either (auctionbot will keep auctioning; and when I die I have already vpatched it so someone else always pick up the torch). To be clear: Going forward, I will be voluntarily be stepping into knighthood so as to have a clearer focus and
lobbes: direction on all *new* TMSR work/studies I take on.
lobbes: pretty cool asciilifeform. ftr the speed at which you did this blows me away
lobbes is grunting out the ZNC shitter as we speak. luckily has some .py code already that parsed a dir full of ZNC; hopefully can get it out tonight
BingoBoingo: !!invoice thimbronion 0.0216 Shared Hosting Annual
BingoBoingo: !!v 948D0539D087503A5156DBA50C4F67D7E2568710A602977EF5AF841671410C04