(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-24 18:14:56 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: i'ma guess you didn't attend an american 'multiculturated' school; or know anyone who has, or has taught at one
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: was addressed to gregorynyssa if wasn't clear
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: i'ma guess you didn't attend an american 'multiculturated' school; or know anyone who has, or has taught at one
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: btw i've a problem with 'it doesn't strictly matter what $concept is' followed by nontrivial-assertion-about-$concept
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: herrnstein and murray expanded more than anyone could want.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: i'm deliberately not even touching on 'smart'
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-24 17:49:35 verisimilitude: It sickens me that so-called professional journalists write English worse than anything of mine, gregorynyssa.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: one type is when author makes a schoolboy gaffe (simply unfactual statement), and carries merrily along building arguments on top
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: comes in several varieties. i can catalogue if you like
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-24 17:42:17 verisimilitude: I've read plenty of good, newer books; judge each book individually.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-24 17:30:20 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: aint it nice when can read a coupla kB and go from 'i have nfi why $phenomenon goes in $direction' to 'make sense like f = m*a'
(asciilifeform) verisimilitude: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-05-24#1037594 I felt the same way about GEB.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: i didn't. it was a++ entertaining but learned 0 new.
(asciilifeform) verisimilitude: I felt the same way about GEB.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: aint it nice when can read a coupla kB and go from 'i have nfi why $phenomenon goes in $direction' to 'make sense like f = m*a'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: what's that to do with it ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: because author is fundamentally unoriginal mind.
(asciilifeform) verisimilitude: Read this, gregorynyssa.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-24 17:01:03 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: who crowns 'better' ? martians?
(asciilifeform) shinohai: gregorynyssa: i was trolling verisimilitude
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: who crowns 'better' ? martians?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: 'democracy' as experienced in +ad is a totalitarian masquerade mask.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: there's 2 basic ways to enforce a norm -- top-down / bottom-up.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: rough 'rule of thumb' -- a regime which purports to tell you what you can and cannot put in yer mouth -- is totalitarian.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2020-12-16 15:04:32 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: at the risk of oversimplification -- one school is that they exist so that rockefeller can buy 15 yachts instead of 1 while you work in either case 25 years of 14hour days and then die.
(asciilifeform) whaack: verisimilitude: ztkfg.com
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2020-12-16 14:53:05 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: upstack -- imho it is worth understanding why well-designed, simple, and functional systems remain obscure, while perl/cpp/microshit 'wins'. if more sane folx understood the basics of the underlying civilizational decay which powers this process, would die of cirrosis less often and overall happier imho
(asciilifeform) whaack: Verisimilitude: Hey your comment from months ago got caught in my spam trap, it has been released and responded to
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-22 21:29:56 verisimilitude: It could be argued most I/O today is just due to poor abstractions.
(asciilifeform) trinque: verisimilitude: you fixate too much on your feelings; no one cares
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-22 20:39:23 verisimilitude: Is which website mine?
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-22 19:00:58 verisimilitude: I want to draw a little comic depicting how languages travel; the C language ignores traffic lights, as an example; APL is the only one not driving, but instead riding a train.
(asciilifeform) gregorynyssa: verisimilitude: is that your own website? you are also Russian American like asciilifeform?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: the current vn state of the art is imho analogous to a bus with separate steering wheel and pedals for each wheel.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: as for 'how persistence on non-vm machine?' -- the simplest method is that whatever computing elements used, have a non-volatile storage inside, large enough to hold 100% of whatever volatile state they have; and access to sufficient power (stored in supercap) to guarantee that the save takes place on interruption of power.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: i dun think i've ever owned a box where 'doesn't work' in the sense of returning random values
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: these are 100% separate problems.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: observe that it works without you ever explicitly concerning yourself with it.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: how much do you know re how cpu cache worx ?
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-22 16:09:00 verisimilitude: I'd upload my work to Reddit, but that would require me to use Reddit; nearly every time I glance over there, more posts have been silently removed from discussions.
(asciilifeform) Apocalyptic: verisimilitude, sadly I do not, nothing worth publishing, this may be relevant to your question
(asciilifeform) Apocalyptic: verisimilitude, I agree, expecting PMs in cleartext travelling on a network you have no control over to be private is lulzy
(asciilifeform) shinohai: verisimilitude: lmfao
(asciilifeform) Apocalyptic: Hi verisimilitude
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: after su collapse, poverty + financial illiteracy led to an explosion in every kind of flimflammery and in particular mega-ponzis like mmm.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: i'm not. ever heard of MMM?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: long story. price went up to 50, then iirc 100. see logs.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-21 14:22:31 verisimilitude: If automating doesn't work, just have a man do it manually.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: it's (nominally, in fact with all kindsa dirty tricks, see above) a market. people buy, sell.
(asciilifeform) shinohai: verisimilitude: bitstamp api
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: many (if not most) of the 'bitcoin business titans' were barely qualified to tie own shoelaces..
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: aha, those also. (btw any idea whether there's a full catalogue of these somewhere..?)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: a checksum/hash erry B bytes would give you similar effect (protect against random flips) and, notice, used even outside the context of crypto.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: what does this give you that simply using otp does not ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: if 'reasonable' then it gotta be something that enemy cannot easily forge while modifying the rest of message
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: that otp authenticates as well as secures (when used as-prescribed) is 1 of the ancient appeals of the thing.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform coincidentally was rereading this ancient lul, arguably related. verisimilitude may find interesting. (warning:pdfism)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: at one pt asciilifeform had just such a camera going, lol. (won't say where..)
(asciilifeform) trinque: verisimilitude: I'll say it's a curious thing that apparently so many people lurked in #t if it was obviously a doomed cult.
(asciilifeform) trinque: verisimilitude: reading the logs wasn't solely a "him" thing, ftr.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: even if you wanted to , would take rather long time, to 'read serially'.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: even now 99.9% of errything of interest, is in the old logs.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: it's an old #tism. i.e. if you somehow noticed 'only now' that wife was a dog, about whom does this say more, the dog, or you.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: pretty sure erryone tuned in has a www.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: hey, did imply that lappy is disposable to you, verisimilitude
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: where didja get yours, so that 3/4 repairs? i dun think i had to open mine 1nce in past 5y
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: do you have an auto ? and does it drag its rusted muffler behind it, and its bumper -- in front of it, as it rolls along on 4 flat tyres ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: fan costs what, 5 $ ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: i imagine if yer standards are low enuff, you'll find it edible (presumably the orig. author did...)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: i suspect. (tho the mouse does seem to pick up atmospheric noise or whatnot)
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-19 15:09:34 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: fwiw my 'pine' is gathering dust. my patience ran out after 2 minutes of 'pushed key, but cursor moves 5s later'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: i dun see how 'less ugly' at all. same 1000+ instrs., same variable length encoding, and -- ever worse than in x64 land -- massive nonstandardized space
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: fwiw my 'pine' is gathering dust. my patience ran out after 2 minutes of 'pushed key, but cursor moves 5s later'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: didja ever write asm for arm ? and , what, 'not ugly' ?!
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-17 22:38:42 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: this aside -- 'yeelong' is an interesting box, and i tried for many yrs to get hold of one. but no longer, even if found one today, would be 'museum queen', would not want to leave the house with it -- say it gets stolen or rained into etc., where wouldja get another ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: yes it's ugly. but can rewrite the equation as e.g. 'would you rather eat 1mg or 500mg of kcn.'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: x86? yes
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: i'ma come back to this.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: in re which ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: i'm throwing an exception parsing that sentence
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: i dun think anyone presently tuned in has that kinda dough.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: very easy if you dun need i/o, lol
(asciilifeform) verisimilitude: I write more about it here.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: what, in your pov here, is the ugly?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: it is tempting to agree with this, but natural languages in fact ~suck~ for expressing unambiguous statements.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: realize, this is the direct equivalent of the case where you .gzip sumthing an' it gets ~heavier~ (statistically inevitable for a good % of inputs)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ^ strongly suggests that verisimilitude is not a serious aficionado of eurolangs
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: an important attribute of compression schemes (which is what this is, nuffin wrong with that, regardless of under what sauce served) is that it gotta ~win in avg. case~
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: for my edification, cite where covered ?
(asciilifeform) verisimilitude: What passes for text has many useless freedoms, and I mention this, in the article.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: how not required? i thought entire scheme was 'encode words rather than glyphs'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: this is an ancient pestilence in what passes for computing -- skeumorphism for instance.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: unless i catastrophically misunderstand, suffers some of very similar problems as asian unicode -- the requirement of standardizing dictionaries
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-18 18:14:01 thimbronion: verisimilitude: I want to create an honest online encyclopedia (in English) and build a replacement for google search.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-18 17:23:32 verisimilitude: I want to replace what passes for text, and asciilifeform wants this grand IP replacement.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: outta curiosity, how didja come across wiby ?
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-18 18:55:52 verisimilitude: There's also http://wiby.me as a curiosity.
(asciilifeform) thimbronion: verisimilitude: I think where my concept would differ is where it says "all users are equal"
(asciilifeform) thimbronion: verisimilitude: I hadn't heard of it
(asciilifeform) thimbronion: verisimilitude: certianly!
(asciilifeform) thimbronion: verisimilitude: it's disgusting.
(asciilifeform) thimbronion: verisimilitude: I want to create an honest online encyclopedia (in English) and build a replacement for google search.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: where, at corner shop? lol
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: right, but point being that this does not magically take place by using slow modem.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: carrying e.g. each chat line by hand to the bunker where the machine w/ launch codes lives ?!
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: for e.g. pgpism, this is already what most folx do. for realtime applications, not practical
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: only transmission requires (your) privkey
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: verification only req's the signer's pub , in asymmetric crypto
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: subj has a rather long history. various folx, incl. asciilifeform , proposed various schemes, but so far each of them imho 'worse than nothing', on acct of various fatal flaws.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: no shared keys.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: just about any even half-serious business requires 'hiding'. ( if you can't pgp addrs/de-pgp pw's -- cannot use my isp, for instance.)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: it isn't even simply about the cert authorities, but rather a multi-layered shit sandwich, with multi-kilogram 'standards' documents, mandatory null ciphers, ~impossible to implement w/out subtle bugs, regular 'upgrades', and many more
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: y'know, it dun cost usg much, this nonsense. most of the shills work for phree.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-18 15:04:13 verisimilitude: The companies are giving up on it, and going to ``canvas rendering''.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-18 15:05:57 verisimilitude: Perhaps asciilifeform should consider producing PDFs or having a Gopher hole as well.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: this aside -- 'yeelong' is an interesting box, and i tried for many yrs to get hold of one. but no longer, even if found one today, would be 'museum queen', would not want to leave the house with it -- say it gets stolen or rained into etc., where wouldja get another ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: didja read any of the linked threads?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: if you've been getting along without it, probably not worthwhile
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: 0 to do with my 'fossilized gentoo' at all, mine is a more modest effort to simply preserve the 2016 era glibc-based traditional gentoo and various packages.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: was draft name for trinque's 1st attempt at a musl-based gentoo.
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(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: iirc you don't have to contend with working for a living, either.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: not errything splits as you'd want it to.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: how does 'need standardized dictionary' necessarily follow from 'can create notation that suits context' ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: try as i might, i can't see the appeal of the described method. it resembles the horror the chinese have to live with, their hieroglyphic encoding. (and for them still easier than would be for eurolangs, where more complicated morphology, declension exists, etc)
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-14 11:31:15 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-05-13#1036249 << if about this piece -- read. my apologies, verisimilitude , forgot that you were waiting for specific signal.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-13 21:18:04 verisimilitude: UNIX was created by some who worked on Multics, and even then in Bell Labs; it seems more like an accident to me.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-13 17:03:18 verisimilitude: On that note, it's been a week since I last mentioned our future conversation, asciilifeform; I'm not being impatient, and had considered mentioning I'd mention it again in one week, but thought that unnecessary, then.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-05-13#1036249 << if about this piece -- read. my apologies, verisimilitude , forgot that you were waiting for specific signal.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-13 17:41:04 verisimilitude: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-05-13#1036242 That would've required he understood what he was doing, and his willingness to argue with his betters, on the basis of playing king of the hill with his millions of lines of convention, shows he'll never even recognize something is amiss.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-13 17:02:57 verisimilitude: I'm proud to have found issues with seemingly benign aspects of computing, such as common usage of character sets; are the Chinese just using Unicode, gregorynyssa?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: normally i think of 'climbed hierarchy' in a narrower sense. ( this, specifically. )
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: it doesn't refer to any potential dead end, if that's what yer thinking. but to ~rewarded~ intellectual dead ends.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: in certain circles it is the proverbial name for the glue traps in which many intelligent folx languish today -- where uses 100% of yer brain, for sure, but produces nothing societally useful even in principle (often enuff -- quite opposite)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: via h. hesse's b00k, 'glass bead game'.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: take for instance the haskellists. and that's only 'tip of iceberg' arguably.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: you may find interesting -- at one time we had thread re whether hftism even exists as-advertised.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: they seem to be mentioned in quasi-legendary context strictly, 'that's where people still care about latency in nanoseconds, write in asm' etc. but few hard facts publicly known re subj.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: as general principle, keep in mind that if you read an 'expose' somewhere in nyt, hn, etc (all same for this purpose) and then feel 'emo', 'kill in the streets!' etc., this was the ~intended~ reaction and it was paid for by someone.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: i only recall in 'princess bride'.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: srsly? (how??)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: can picture; but how do these connect? are there 'flamboyant' hft people in yer social circle ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: not having played such games, i suspect the analogy is lost on me?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: i suspect the old-style 'low frequency' traders burn moar resources (if not as 'spectacularly', they work over pnoje etc)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: outta curiosity, what do you have against the 'fast traders' ? (not that they're societally useful; but seems like a rather niche example, and no scale to speak of, all the people and machines involved would prolly fit in one train car)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: while 'sexy' to picture that postalists had sumthing to do with closing the cube hells, the numbers don't seem to support this idea
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-07 15:35:18 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: next could wonder how much ferrying chair warmers to/from cube hell wastes
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: the traders seem like a poor example, just how many of such 'core wars players' even are there.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: avoiding comprehensibility is the #1 objective in all of these.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: next could wonder how much ferrying chair warmers to/from cube hell wastes
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: and through what does one operate it ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: dafuq is a remote www browser ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: 99999>70001
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-04 18:24:13 verisimilitude: What's so compelling about this Wordpress fork?
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(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: this aint intercal, lol
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: not forgotten.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: will do.
(asciilifeform) thimbronion: verisimilitude: I like some features it has, such as backlinks, comments, and server side text selection.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: think, this requires one to emerge from the 20th c. transistor poverty which had produced the model to begin with.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: afaik no one there had gotten as far as to consider rejecting vn model.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: elaborate?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: and this, as i understand, is with a rather rough commercial kbd. picture what could do with a proper (custom) one.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: i'ma read it shortly
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: i tend to use it in g. chaitin's sense, of 'predict'. e.g. once you understand how one generates 3.14159... , can get any number of digits you like
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: attempts to conclusively nail down model of even 1 particular natural lang have been nailing practitioners since early '50s. it is -- in very subtle ways -- considerably harder problem than 1st appears.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: lengthy and heavily censored usg internal report re harassment of non-usg cryptographers in era of dawn of pc crypto
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: quite a few ideas automagically visit folx who rise to sufficient grasp of $subject
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: i suspect that quite a few folx independently derived similar schemes.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: you may find interesting that in world of mechanized ~music~ in '80s-'90s there appeared solutions falling in erry place in the delineated spectrum
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: i recall this piece.
(asciilifeform) verisimilitude: I discuss this and more in the recently rewritten article.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: i'ma summarize. 'doublespace' was a proggy which misleadingly claimed to 'double yer hdd' by transparently compressing/decompressing files
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: point is not simply that compression costs cpu cycles. but that in some % of cases inescapably (and provably) ~must~ result in ~larger~ payload.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: are you old enuff to remember 'doublespace' ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: compression schemes cannot solve '10 pounds of shit for a 8 pound bag' in the general case.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: pretty tight space if including e.g. rsa signatures.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: they endlessly wrote 'worlds' to tape
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: if you recall, this is what the lispm people actually did
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: indeed. observe that nothing pertinent in fact , afaik, happened, in entire decade.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: there could easily be a language where data is presumed to be persistent, and no explicit concept of writing to disk exists. but apl afaik never was such.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: i gotta add that mmapism would not even be necessary on a 3rdlaw-compliant machine.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-03 14:08:31 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: btw this switcheroo was engineered by a specific judas goat -- eric s. raymond
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: could be part of it
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: the ideal judas, arguably, is one who has 95% 'good respectable material'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: btw this switcheroo was engineered by a specific judas goat -- eric s. raymond
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: the answer to this q is not definitively known (to asciilifeform.) i doubt that 'only trb saved': its public footprint was never large. and, there do exist compatible clients, evidently -- is what the survey thrds are largely about
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: trb, in contrast, is a branch of the orig. client maintained by asciilifeform & co. ('co' is currently not large at all..)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: it refers to the 'official' client post-2012ish, when project was hijacked by wreckers
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: was iirc originally mp's term -- expanded variously, 'public relations bitcoin', coupla other decodings
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: many possible meanings here. elaborate?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: if you read asciilifeform's adaisms will find that asciilifeform's variant of 'move beyond' was rather 'in' than 'out'. i.e. 'the better ada is a strict subset of standard one'
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: often enuff you will find that properly grasping what yer doing (as ada encourages) leads you to realize that you were solving entirely wrong problem to begin with.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: that's the good kind of exhausting.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-01 23:27:58 verisimilitude: Ada is the most exhausting programming language I know.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-01 19:03:36 verisimilitude: I discuss it in the final paragraph here.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-05-01#1035075 << will read, verisimilitude .
(asciilifeform) trinque: verisimilitude: tbh I would accept terry davis as exactly a "real believer"
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: artifically crafted dependence-chimeras.
(asciilifeform) verisimilitude: I discuss it in the final paragraph here.
(asciilifeform) shinohai: verisimilitude: whatcha programming in Ada ?
(asciilifeform) trinque: verisimilitude: your /pol/ sense of race is nonsense ftr.
(asciilifeform) trinque: verisimilitude: tbh I agree. I want a portable with a human keyboard, proper key action
(asciilifeform) trinque: verisimilitude: only complaint I have with the device is that the trackpad is trash, which I rarely use.
(asciilifeform) verisimilitude: I use a a custom programming tool for CHIP-8; I'd like to target the 6502 soon enough. I've ideas about how to nicely work with accumulator machines.
(asciilifeform) verisimilitude: On the topic of Urbit, I was befuddled to see it and some of my work in a paper from 1978.
(asciilifeform) thestringpuller: hi verisimilitude
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-04-26 14:10:59 verisimilitude: Just look at UNIX.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: unix is a different, more insiduous and deliberate atrocity.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: the degree of incompetence in question, times the dough nominally avail. to correct it, times the length of time it has gone on -- is imho possibly a record-breaker
(spyked) feedbot: http://verisimilitudes.net/2021-04-24 << A Syndication of Verisimilitudes -- Elision toki pona CLOS Mapping Experiment
(asciilifeform) feedbot: http://verisimilitudes.net/2021-04-24 << A Syndication of Verisimilitudes -- Elision toki pona CLOS Mapping Experiment
(asciilifeform) zzz999: Logged on 2021-04-24 22:25:08 verisimilitude: I don't suppose my work would be included in this interesting set, lobbes.
(spyked) feedbot: http://verisimilitudes.net/2018-06-06 << A Syndication of Verisimilitudes -- Rewritten: Insidious Optimizations II: Machine Text
(asciilifeform) feedbot: http://verisimilitudes.net/2018-06-06 << A Syndication of Verisimilitudes -- Rewritten: Insidious Optimizations II: Machine Text
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: not always influences in right direction. e.g. gabe laddel dropped out of school and eventually starved to death (iirc).
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: asciilifeform's been 'screaming into void' since early 2000s. on occasions the void -- answers. to date these haven't been a massive win.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-04-23 12:59:39 verisimilitude: Amusingly, people are apparently very concerned about that Bitcoin price drop.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: it's a ~random #
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: lol noobs
(asciilifeform) shinohai: I hope this doesn't turn out badly for verisimilitude ... usually persons concerned with pronouns are the ones out there committing suicide.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-04-22 18:12:49 verisimilitude: I agree that ``Gee, we weren't expecting malicious patches.'' isn't an excuse.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-04-22 18:12:49 verisimilitude: I agree that ``Gee, we weren't expecting malicious patches.'' isn't an excuse.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: apparently
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: a colleague of asciilifeform's remarked 'streets were packed with the celebrating' on tues., took asciilifeform a coupla min to realize that it wasn't for the fuhrer's bd
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: that was tues.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: 1st small step to complete cure.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-04-21 16:20:11 verisimilitude: Also, there was that drama involving that blog and the NYT.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: none, so long as you realize it's what yer doing. and accept the cost (e.g. on my www is name, pgp key, and result is... lynching? nope, instead moar offers of work than i know what to do with)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: it's ego masturbation, is what it is. neither you nor i will ever so much as meet anyone worthy of 'napalm from helicopter' or even any cheaper usg hit; much less merit personally
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: what to you means phrase 'real risk' ? is e.g. ufo abduction, also 'a real risk' ?
(alethepedia) snsabot: ben_vulpes last seen in #asciilifeform on 2020-07-03 00:07:14: one last thing. in re http://verisimilitudes.net/2018-06-06 verisimilitude i'm not going to be bound by any fixed set of words you propose i limit myself to
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2021-04-20 17:00:54 verisimilitude: I recall one fellow here sending me a private message about avoiding Hell and whatnot.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: lemme guess, dpb?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: whole history of cryptocoinism consists of 1) the original bitcoin client, which ~works 2) variously-sabotaged variants of (1) , sponsored by the enemy 3) 'altcoins', consisting without exception of 'premine scam', where orig. author hopes to get-rich-quick on the backs of army of useful idiots
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: verisimilitude: why wouldja go to bed with unsaved buffers ?!