asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
btcinfobot: Current BTC price in USD: $56133.31
asciilifeform: !w poll
watchglass: Polling 15 nodes...
watchglass: 185.85.38.54:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 185.163.46.29:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.142s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=681945
watchglass: 108.31.170.100:8333 : (pool-108-31-170-100.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.099s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=682067 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.142s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=682067
watchglass: 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.135s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=682067
watchglass: 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.139s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=682067
watchglass: 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=682067 (Operator: whaack)
watchglass: 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.166s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=682067
watchglass: 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.300s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=682067
watchglass: 176.9.59.199:8333 : (static.199.59.9.176.clients.your-server.de) Alive: (0.319s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=412042 (Operator: jurov)
watchglass: 84.16.46.130:8333 : (182518.pk.3pp.slovanet.sk) Alive: (0.033s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=479228
watchglass: 103.36.92.112:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length!
thimbronion: verisimilitude: I like some features it has, such as backlinks, comments, and server side text selection.
thimbronion: Additionally billymg has done some work trimming down the source, removing unneeded garbage.
thimbronion: I, like many, wrote my own blog, but to get it to the same point os mp-wp would be too much effort.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-05-04#1035590 << the x64 and arm64 gentoos are as similar as i was able to make'em, but with portage snapshot taken at slightly different points in time
snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-04 18:15:31 billymg: thimbronion: i got the full mp-wp stack working on BingoBoingo's old rockchips, which i believe were running something very close to that (asciilifeform would likely know the differences)
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-05-04#1035589 << i know of several folx who used php on the rk variant (e.g. dpb) but none on the x64 one ( maybe whaack ? )
snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-04 18:07:13 thimbronion: Anyone gotten php/mysql working on a gentoo created using http://www.loper-os.org/pub/dulap_construction_kit_r4.txt?
asciilifeform personally iirc does not have php on any of his gentoo systems
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-05-04#1035616 << billymg if you got this going, plz consider writing crib sheet for the next fella
snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-04 19:24:14 billymg: thimbronion: fwiw that php emerge just finished successfully
thimbronion: asciilifeform: I was able to build php5 using billymg's tarballs. Still working on mysql.
asciilifeform: thimbronion: (iirc) i dun have any boxes w/ mysql. but as i understand various things (that i dun use) call for it, so consider to publish, will be handy for'em
thimbronion: Perhaps asciilifeform could add what was missing to his mirror?
asciilifeform: thimbronion: upload the tarballs to your www, i'ma mirror of course
asciilifeform: (assuming they have corresponding hashes in my portage snapshot. not much use if not)
thimbronion: asciilifeform: ok - I'll share links for everything once I get mysql working
asciilifeform: a++
whaack: asciilifeform: nope I don't have any php on my box
asciilifeform: whaack: aa.
asciilifeform: then not sure whether anyone has previously tried phpism on my x64 gentoo.
thimbronion: I don't even like mysql. Would be happy to use a modified version of mp-wp that uses postgres.
asciilifeform: thimbronion: i'm prolly the last one to ask re: what, if anything, in that wp is tailored to mysql in particular
asciilifeform: possibly -- nothing
billymg: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-05-05#1035654 << this wasn't even on my mp-wp todo list but since using postgres for the crawler it's now jumped near the top
snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-05 13:52:26 thimbronion: I don't even like mysql. Would be happy to use a modified version of mp-wp that uses postgres.
thimbronion: billymg: yeah it would be nice for any bots to have access to blog posts and logs all using postgres.
billymg: yeah, one less dependency to worry about
billymg: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-05-05#1035642 << will get to this eventually, i do want to write some guides
snsabot: Logged on 2021-05-05 13:45:24 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-05-04#1035616 << billymg if you got this going, plz consider writing crib sheet for the next fella
billymg: asciilifeform: based on the version msg spec are the addr_me, addr_you values in watchglass encoded in the right order?
billymg: i can't tell if they should be flipped or if i'm interpreting the spec wrong in terms of the "receiving/emitting" perspective
billymg: going by how the spec describes the 'start_height' as the height of the emitting node and what the watchglass code does there i'm inclined to think the addr values should be flipped
verisimilitude: I'm not being impatient, but let me know when that article of mine is read, asciilifeform, so we may continue our earlier discussion; I mention this purely so it's not forgotten.
asciilifeform: billymg: look at the wg outputs (e.g. today's). if the fields were swapped as you describe, either the addrs or the heights, how would the correct values appear there? (they -- in fact do)
asciilifeform: 'proof of the pudding' etc.
asciilifeform: billymg: comment on www approved.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: will do.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: not forgotten.
asciilifeform bbl, hands still mostly full
billymg: asciilifeform: height field is in the correct position, addrs are in the correct order when you unpack the response payload too http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=R3w- (which is why the results in the output are correct)
billymg: it's only where you create the payload for the outgoing message that i think they are flipped http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=5BTe
billymg: to me it looks like the order is at least inconsistent in those pack and unpack calls
billymg: asciilifeform: i just tested with the values flipped to what i believe to be the correct order and it worked exactly the same as before. so i don't think this has any effect, just something i noticed
asciilifeform: ah hm billymg , this kind of thing ?
asciilifeform will take a closer look when gets the chance
billymg: asciilifeform: more likely it just doesn't make a difference in this particular case. for completeness i tried sending some random ips and the nodes i tried probing still returned valid/correct version messages
billymg: tried on both a trb and a prb
asciilifeform: billymg: i'm having difficulty picturing how it could make 0 difference -- either they're in the correct order, or they aint..?
verisimilitude: Perhaps the machinery performs reordering by heuristic.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: this aint intercal, lol
verisimilitude: This is a guess.
billymg: asciilifeform: i'm just reporting back my observations. i tried with bogus IPs ("0.0.0.0" and "8.8.8.8" fwiw) for both the 'addr_recv' and 'addr_from' fields. the nodes i pinged simply did not care what IPs were in these fields and responded with correct/valid version messages of their own
billymg: which is funny considering how sensitive they seem to be to the extra 'relay' field at the end and a 99999 value for the version