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(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2023-05-24#1114929 << asciilifeform not worx for 'jam tomorrow'(tm)(r)(c) anymoar (learned that it's a 100% reliable recipe for loss of shirt)
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: (trilema) 2014-11-13 asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: (trilema) 2014-11-13 asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
(alethepedia) snsabot: (asciilifeform) 2020-10-22 asciilifeform: they were/are simply an instrument of the 'shell game' built into ethereum. primarily to complicate the matter of answering q's e.g. 'how much coin is there?' 'to whom does this-here coin belong?' but also to help in organizing 'jam tomorrow' mechanized chumpatrons of all types.
(asciilifeform) verisimilitude: I recently finished another submission for a little game jam, amongst other work, which I'll document today or tomorrow. Machine code can be fun, because it tends to not work at all until it actually works, but that's not always true.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: Logged on 2020-10-22 12:07:27 asciilifeform: they were/are simply an instrument of the 'shell game' built into ethereum. primarily to complicate the matter of answering q's e.g. 'how much coin is there?' 'to whom does this-here coin belong?' but also to help in organizing 'jam tomorrow' mechanized chumpatrons of all types.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: they were/are simply an instrument of the 'shell game' built into ethereum. primarily to complicate the matter of answering q's e.g. 'how much coin is there?' 'to whom does this-here coin belong?' but also to help in organizing 'jam tomorrow' mechanized chumpatrons of all types.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: 'paper slavery' is, in light of past 300y of experimentation, substantially moar effective than the direct kind. folx building palaces at gunpoint tend to 'slow strike', drink, attempt to run away. whereas typical 'civilized world' sucker will willingly break his back for '401k' and 'stock options' and various other 'jam tomorrows'.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: and i rec to demand the food up-front, rather than 'shares %%' of a 'jam tomorrow' hypothetical food..
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: from my pov, chumpatrons ~all effectively interchangeable. 'yer money today, jam tomorrow!111 we promise!'
(trilema) mp_en_viaje: very much a turkey dollar problem. everyone's rich in jam tomorrow, jam today on ration card.
(trilema) asciilifeform: physical economy hits wall, and yet some folx still want to 'financier', offer 'jam tomorrow' (despite no supply of jam even today, much less any reason to think will arrive tomorrow) , imho it aint happenstance that good % of konsoomer spare change in '90s ru went to 'mmm' & other pyramids, somehow lotsa folx eager to share in the delusion
(trilema) asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how would you account for the diff ? (i.e. egyptian orc has his 'jam tomorrow' receptors safely plugged by koran ? or how. why not as susceptible to 'betterfutureism'..? )
(trilema) mircea_popescu: place's been coming in a big way since the 1859 gold find put it on the map, and throughout this century and a half it never ammounted to more than high rents and jam tomorrow.
(trilema) asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-10#1565224 << jam, as we learn in kindergarten, happened yesterday, and will happen again -- tomorrow. but not today.
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2014-11-13 19:06 asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2014-11-13 19:06 asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
(trilema) mircea_popescu: not that there aren't a precious few competent folk out there. but they suffer a heavy demographic burden in the form of idiot us sucking them in to "build companies" and go to conferences and waste their lives for belonging&jam-tomorrow ; and the rest are fucking busy raping nsa and such.
(trilema) asciilifeform: because that's where orcish quislings get (or at least in imagination, in jam-tomorrow promise) retired to.
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2014-11-13 19:06 asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
(trilema) mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492583 << actually that happened in the 90s. all the jam tomorrow "web as a business" "venture capital" bs is exactly that - pivoting to try and survive the situation where consumers don't have money. pretend data is valuable and someone cares, pretend advertising is a business, get people to "invest" in this nonsense, it's a thing.
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2014-11-13 19:06 asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2014-11-13 19:06 asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
(trilema) assbot: Logged on 13-11-2014 19:06:33; asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
(trilema) assbot: Logged on 13-11-2014 19:06:33; asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
(trilema) assbot: Logged on 13-11-2014 19:06:33; asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
(trilema) assbot: Logged on 13-11-2014 19:06:33; asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
(trilema) assbot: Logged on 13-11-2014 19:06:33; asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
(trilema) asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: $10. but available as jam-tomorrow victory bondz from usg, naturally.
(trilema) asciilifeform: the notion i was trying to get at is that presently existing units were financed on 100% 'jam tomorrow'
(trilema) asciilifeform: it is conceivable the the entire ic age has been fueled by a continuously-rolling 'jam tomorrow' bezzle
(trilema) mircea_popescu: what, jam tomorrow, maybe one day ima get gossipd over udp, perhaps, who knows ? meanwhile half the remaining usg online is BASED, and requires udp to survive at all ?
(trilema) asciilifeform: jurov: the particular example, 'gossip', ~is~ jam tomorrow, yes. but it is possible to run encrypted tunnels of various sorts even today.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-06-2015#1180430 << another worthy direction yes. << not jam tomorrow, then?
(trilema) asciilifeform: asking node to accept maybe-verifiable-as-not-rubbish-tomorrow is a jam-tomorrow.
(trilema) assbot: Logged on 05-06-2015 00:42:31; asciilifeform: mod6: he rebroadcasts until finds a node that can accept it without 'jam tomorrow'
(trilema) mircea_popescu: and yes the trillion spent also means five people got two billion a pop give or take to be paraded across the country with a large jam tomorrow sign affixed.
(trilema) assbot: Logged on 13-11-2014 19:06:33; asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
(trilema) asciilifeform: mod6: he rebroadcasts until finds a node that can accept it without 'jam tomorrow'
(trilema) assbot: Logged on 31-05-2015 21:27:33; asciilifeform: i don't even apprehend why this 'jam tomorrow' nonsense was even in there in the first place.
(trilema) asciilifeform: i don't even apprehend why this 'jam tomorrow' nonsense was even in there in the first place.
(trilema) asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
(trilema) asciilifeform: alice in the looking-glass, famously is offered 'jam tomorrow and jam yesterday -- but never jam today.'
(trilema) asciilifeform: as far as i could tell, the thing is/was some combo of a usg honeypot and straight 'jam tomorrow, not today' chumpatron.
(trilema) mjr_: i mean, if a bar COULD say, one jameson rocks is .05 bitcoin, now and tomorrow and next week