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assbot: BitBet - Cardano to Ship in 2015 :: 4.97 B (11%) on Yes, 38.3 B (89%) on No | closing in 3 days 18 hours | weight: 1`109 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y6qgZZ )
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mircea_popescu: "Together, we've shown what's possible when the world stands as one," he said. << doom. the only thing possible when the bureaucrats unite is doom.
assbot: [BTC-dev] Regarding Transaction Signatures ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y6slVY )
mod6: :]
BingoBoingo: ty for news, brb upwriting
mod6: thanks for writing
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deedbot-: [Qntra] Bitcoin Foundation Co-Chairs Issue Statement On Signatures In Blockchain - http://qntra.net/2015/12/bitcoin-foundation-co-chairs-issue-statement-on-signatures-in-blockchain/
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BingoBoingo: "i'd give you a life expectancy of an extra 72 hours" >> https://archive.is/7rXTw
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asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'that actual Bitcoin clients can the entire blockchain including transaction signatures during initial sync' ???
asciilifeform: --> 'can verify the'
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: snore
asciilifeform: 'Sam, Greg, Elon, Reid Hoffman, Jessica Livingston, Peter Thiel, Amazon Web Services (AWS), Infosys, and YC Research are donating to support OpenAI. In total, these funders have committed $1 billion, although we expect to only spend a tiny fraction of this in the next few years.' << lulzy
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 7.95260000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin block reward halving on or before 20 July 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1182/bitcoin-block-reward-halving-on-or-before-20/#b8
asciilifeform: how many russia did they buy yet.
asciilifeform: 'We believe AI should be an extension of individual human wills and, in the spirit of liberty, as broadly and evenly distributed as is possible safely.' << interesting turn of phrase
asciilifeform: l0ltr0nic.
asciilifeform again sees '7.95260000' and thinks 'not bad...' then remembers it isn't a bits'o'entropy/bt figure
asciilifeform: almost pavlovian reflex.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-12-2015#1342233 << give that poor bony fella his preorder moneyz back.
assbot: Logged on 13-12-2015 05:03:14; mircea_popescu: https://bitbet.us/bet/1100/cardano-to-ship-in-2015/#c5409 heh.
assbot: Logged on 13-12-2015 04:55:21; mircea_popescu: in more interesting news, http://49.media.tumblr.com/40bf9abd7b27c0bf70608040fb7e0c25/tumblr_mvdplrPEVx1qdxglyo1_400.gif
asciilifeform: just when i began to think that mircea_popescu doesn't even go in for that sort
asciilifeform: one day i would like to read a cookbook published by mircea_popescu. which will show the foods not only as they are on the table, but as they are in the stomach, small intestine, large, and onward...
asciilifeform: imho this is not any less or more appealing than pr0n with cockz in it. but to each, his own...
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-12-2015#1342238 << this has all of the hallmarks of a first-class rigged demo absurdity
assbot: Logged on 13-12-2015 05:23:44; punkman: https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CWBpWv4U4AA3g1p.mp4 the drone catcher
asciilifeform: (why would the smaller machine fall into the net dragged by the larger - slower - one ?)
asciilifeform to avoid dying of laughter, takes a break.
assbot: Two charged in firing upon Highway Patrol officer : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1RL8eHD )
assbot: Woodland rejects solar farm | The Roanoke-Chowan News-Herald ... ( http://bit.ly/1IME1Gr )
punkman: "She is a retired Northampton science teacher and is concerned that photosynthesis, which depends upon sunlight, would not happen and would keep the plants from growing."
punkman: "She also questioned the high number of cancer deaths in the area, saying no one could tell her that solar panels didn’t cause cancer."
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BingoBoingo: punkman: win
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BingoBoingo: Apparently this is the LSD that pairs with Jim Crow https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0112.mediawiki
assbot: bips/bip-0112.mediawiki at master · bitcoin/bips · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1P0hbKM )
BingoBoingo: Yet more OP_HODL types
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mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/7rXTw << typical 15yo doing the typical 15yo thing : put two-three stories together in a new combo, passes them off as "real" to adults to see what they say.
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mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-12-2015#1342262 << this very strange stupid number games thing. "they've commited a billion they'd never pay and i'll do things i'm never actually doing". мы делаем вид что работаем а государство делает вид что платит нам зарплату for the new soviet generation.
assbot: Logged on 13-12-2015 06:39:45; asciilifeform: 'Sam, Greg, Elon, Reid Hoffman, Jessica Livingston, Peter Thiel, Amazon Web Services (AWS), Infosys, and YC Research are donating to support OpenAI. In total, these funders have committed $1 billion, although we expect to only spend a tiny fraction of this in the next few years.' << lulzy
assbot: Logged on 13-12-2015 06:40:55; asciilifeform: 'We believe AI should be an extension of individual human wills and, in the spirit of liberty, as broadly and evenly distributed as is possible safely.' << interesting turn of phrase
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mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-12-2015#1342275 << your wish was granted, of course. years ago, of course. on trilema, bien sur. http://trilema.com/2012/sa-facem-un-test/
assbot: Logged on 13-12-2015 06:46:40; asciilifeform: one day i would like to read a cookbook published by mircea_popescu. which will show the foods not only as they are on the table, but as they are in the stomach, small intestine, large, and onward...
assbot: Sa facem un test on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1lY02HG )
assbot: Logged on 13-12-2015 06:48:43; asciilifeform: (why would the smaller machine fall into the net dragged by the larger - slower - one ?)
mircea_popescu: they just never could have predicted. anything.
mircea_popescu: but hey, don't look at the paris attack and say "lol, i guess we can dismantle all us secret services". say something else! anything else! how about "o noers, should be giving the slow, inept macfhine more $$$!"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-12-2015#1342286 << imagine the ten thousand kids she "taught" "science"
assbot: Logged on 13-12-2015 07:28:56; punkman: "She is a retired Northampton science teacher and is concerned that photosynthesis, which depends upon sunlight, would not happen and would keep the plants from growing."
mircea_popescu: !s btcdrak
assbot: 150 results for 'btcdrak' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=btcdrak
mircea_popescu: ;;rated btcdrak
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mircea_popescu: !rate btcdrak -1 it's one thing to have opinions. it's another to misrepresent yourself. next time you want to discuss the stupid shit you do, start with linking https://archive.is/760r4 rather than silently pretending you're not an idiot.
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assbot: bips/bip-0112.mediawiki at master · bitcoin/bips · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1lY1ycT )
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.btcdrak.-1:3b1794d51d794b8eb613810c31577043169905c1c574df92747f302f9d11afab
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for btcdrak from 1 to -1 with note: it's one thing to have opinions. it's another to misrepresent yourself. next time you want to discuss the stupid shit you do, start with linking https://archive.is/760r4 rather than silently pretending you're not an idiot.
mircea_popescu: and seriously, see the part where the mp of this space says "This can not be emphasized enough : you can not be building any type of business on any sort of Gavinism, because they will not survive on the middle term. It's not just the Bitcoins, that you would have lost had I not murdered "XT". Everything - every hour you spend "developing" atop the crud USG agents try to stick in Bitcoin is a wasted hour, because the s
mircea_popescu: tuff you build upon has the consistency of smoke and the life expectancy of... well, I was going to say ephemerides, but I guess we could just as well say Pieter Wuille.", because what mp says goes.
mircea_popescu: and as the de-turdification process continue, expect more and more of these "highly principled" shitheads crawling out of the woodwork. because this is what ethics means to the present crop of retarded kids, it's just a word, and it ain't got jack shit to do with what one does. just as long as the pharisee does his ablutions right all's good.
mircea_popescu: funny thing, apropos : pharisees used to be a nation. you know, like the ustards used to be a nation. today they only thing they're remembered for is their manner of living, they're a byword for hypocrisy and a delusional magical belief in empty ritual and naming things.
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assbot: Logged on 13-12-2015 08:42:51; BingoBoingo: Apparently this is the LSD that pairs with Jim Crow https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0112.mediawiki
assbot: Logged on 13-11-2014 19:06:33; asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
assbot: Logged on 13-12-2015 13:12:02; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-12-2015#1342275 << your wish was granted, of course. years ago, of course. on trilema, bien sur. http://trilema.com/2012/sa-facem-un-test/
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-12-2015#1342324 << we already know that nsa doesn't spy, in the usual sense. usg prefers sabotage.
assbot: Logged on 13-12-2015 13:20:10; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-12-2015#1342279 << and yet "nsa spies everything"
asciilifeform: so that victim 'spies' on himself.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-12-2015#1342327 << you mean the attack by the arab auxiliary arm of usg on the idiot euro auxiliary arm of usg ?
assbot: Logged on 13-12-2015 13:21:05; mircea_popescu: but hey, don't look at the paris attack and say "lol, i guess we can dismantle all us secret services". say something else! anything else! how about "o noers, should be giving the slow, inept macfhine more $$$!"
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-12-2015#1342329 << makes EXACTLY the same amount of sense as the 'oh noez gmo!111' thing.
assbot: Logged on 13-12-2015 13:21:57; assbot: Logged on 13-12-2015 07:28:56; punkman: "She is a retired Northampton science teacher and is concerned that photosynthesis, which depends upon sunlight, would not happen and would keep the plants from growing."
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-12-2015#1342348 << i must be the only fella alive who doesn't care a whit for the 'sexy shoe' thing
assbot: Logged on 13-12-2015 13:58:53; mircea_popescu: aaand alf's shoe store. with pumps. http://36.media.tumblr.com/57266f0d42c32f71d1313339e21a47f7/tumblr_n1k5sh2qAg1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-12-2015#1342316 << this describes virtually the whole 'office chair' half of usa !
assbot: Logged on 13-12-2015 13:06:20; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-12-2015#1342262 << this very strange stupid number games thing. "they've commited a billion they'd never pay and i'll do things i'm never actually doing". мы делаем вид что работаем а государство делает вид что платит нам зарплату for the new soviet generation.
assbot: Facebook sends traffic!!11eleven on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1NqzHJu )
mircea_popescu: anyone wanna join the illuminatarians ?
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mircea_popescu: "rapper, BUSINESSMAN OR WOMAN, musical, sport, politician" << oddly, hacker's been omitted.
mircea_popescu: in other news, successful talented businessman or woman rapper sport musical politician illustrated : http://45.media.tumblr.com/f97d70e2546f16755d1938224bbd6aa9/tumblr_mwka8svL5k1t0c5aso8_250.gif
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dawg get the hell out with this "everything is an arm of the meta-hittite empire"
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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what next, mujahedeen in afghan were not amerimuppets ?
mircea_popescu: exactly.
mircea_popescu: the fallacy here is that you wish to attribute action to "ownership" because this is a fundamental pillar of your otherwise broken "action is not the measure of phenomena". if only it were possible that the mujahedeen were "a puppet" then so many things you wish to be true would also perhaps be attainable.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, in afghanistan the only NOT puppets were the afghanis.
asciilifeform: not puppet
asciilifeform: important diff
mircea_popescu: ru and su were the actual puppets in this discussion.
mircea_popescu: and im not sure what the diff between m and p is here.
asciilifeform: muppet can put on a good show of, e.g., biting the puppetteer
mircea_popescu: but, to be perfectly clear, the man who goes to work hard so he can buy a diamond ring so he can "muppet" a woman into staying put for sex is not some sort of mastermind.
mircea_popescu: he's some sort of muppet.
asciilifeform: this - yes
mircea_popescu: this is the relationship of actual active tribes with soi-dissant empires.
mircea_popescu: the empire goes to get them diamond rings.
mircea_popescu: and i would know, because this is what romania's been doing for about a millenium.
mircea_popescu: course, not the same as greece's two, but nevertheless.
asciilifeform: let's say usg had not supplied the goat fuckers with modern rockets, infinite ammo, food, etc. then what, precisely, would've distinguished them from the red indians ?
asciilifeform: (who were also quite the set of 'active tribes')
asciilifeform: or zulu, et al
mircea_popescu: that red indians wanted to sit around and smoke peace pipe, whereby these guys wanted to rape your wife.
mircea_popescu: heck, zulu are raping your wife as we speak.
asciilifeform: iirc the peace pipe folks went to meet quetzalcoatl first. followed by the rape-the-wife ones.
mircea_popescu: sure, back then white didn't yet mean castrated.
mircea_popescu: or to bring the captive mouse back into all of this, whether it succeeds or not at chewing its way through plain steel and glass, and whether it has any chance at succeeding or not aren't considerations. it simply lacks any capacity of being my puppet, and for this reason it can't be, and that's that.
mircea_popescu: it's, as the polite expression goes, "uncivilised".
mircea_popescu: or rather, undomesticated.
asciilifeform: brick is even better 'undomesticated', then! as there have been trained mice, but never brick.
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mircea_popescu: and it's a miserable state of affairs, when i say argentines are too dumb to live i mean exactly this :
mircea_popescu: they're drastically incapable of making themselves useful.
asciilifeform: but at least not domesticated ?
mircea_popescu: what else is the job of human industry since forever, but to separate the wires.
mircea_popescu: and so... we industriously retrain their youth. it's slow and unrewarding, but then again what else is the human condition, idem since forever.
mircea_popescu: note how this also happens to be exactly the male expectations of females, generally. "she should be pliable to no one but me", which then gets repackaged in weird things like madonna/whore compelx by sick societies, which is how "slut" works : to indicate that she's exactly the antiwoman (ie, pliable to all but me) and so on and so forth.
mircea_popescu: this is why dudes hang out with bitches (hey, she might not be pliable to me, but she sure as fuck ain't pliable to anyone else - so that's 50%. spreading, works.)
asciilifeform: everybody wants an everything 'pliable to no one but me.' 'i want a meat edible to me but not flies.' 'grain for me but not mice.' 'unix box for me but not usg.' etc
asciilifeform: that's pretty much what being alive means
mircea_popescu: this is why anal sex being painful to teh woman is actually THE REASON it's practiced and so on
asciilifeform: (e.g., why does cell have membrane? 'for meeeee!!!11')
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform quite exactly.
mircea_popescu: fractal reality, it really doesn't have that many tropes.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-12-2015#1342422 << this goes way back, to legends of 'and he had a sword that no other bloke could even motherfucknig LIFT!11111' etc
assbot: Logged on 13-12-2015 17:04:29; mircea_popescu: this is why dudes hang out with bitches (hey, she might not be pliable to me, but she sure as fuck ain't pliable to anyone else - so that's 50%. spreading, works.)
asciilifeform: on a not-unrelated note, i neglected the grounds for so long that an OAK actually grew INTO my front gate.
asciilifeform: getting to be a bother.
asciilifeform off to chop
mircea_popescu: dun forget the salt.
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punkman: asciilifeform: [...] << makes EXACTLY the same amount of sense as the 'oh noez gmo!111' thing. << dunno, I'd rather not eat DowDuPont for breakfast
punkman: not yet at least, not really opposed to gmo food in principle
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punkman: so there's a Mr Sleeve in the neighborhood, and apparently he makes shirts
assbot: Fannishness and stuff. | ftm-slave: rubberonmyducky: This.   Out of... ... ( http://bit.ly/1RM02Hn )
mircea_popescu: "i hope nobody mistakes us for a straight couple"
punkman: it's only bad if you "hope nobody thinks I'm gay"
mircea_popescu: a right, forgot.
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punkman: "In fact, I was (and am) a GOLD STAR GAY ie a gay man who's never had sex with a woman" except all these persons with vaginas
mircea_popescu: the notion that teenager kid that beat up some fatty in his class needs therapy, but this nutjob with sirens and perimeter fence does not strikes me as outright self-parodic.
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assbot: Logged on 09-12-2015 21:44:18; mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2010/vladimir-oane-iz-meleonare/#selection-81.0-85.15 << if gabriel radio feels like translating ancient pieces on "venture capital" a la roumaine.
assbot: dpaste: 3FCFGJT: Trilema - Vladimir Oane iz Meleonare!!!, by gabrielradio ... ( http://bit.ly/1TJK6ne )
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assbot: HootSuite Buys UberVU To Expand Analytics On Its Social Media Management Platform | TechCrunch ... ( http://bit.ly/1SW4YYt )
mircea_popescu: who the fuck gets acquihired by "hootsuite"
whaack: BingoBoingo: http://dpaste.com/2PSYKB5 first qntra submission, let me know what you think.
assbot: dpaste: 2PSYKB5 ... ( http://bit.ly/1I2aVCD )
BingoBoingo guesses he will have to do another draft of the Qntra style guide, "Bitcoin" gets capitalized.
assbot: The Bachelor Prince ... ( http://bit.ly/1SW6fPa )
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Bingoboingo: Oh whaack you actually sat in?
whaack: BingoBoingo: yes
Bingoboingo: cool, just got some light touches of editing so make sure to read it.
deedbot-: [Qntra] The MIT Administration Infiltrates Bitcoin Projects - http://qntra.net/2015/12/the-mit-administration-infiltrates-bitcoin-projects/
whaack: BingoBoingo: looks great, thanks
Bingoboingo: You're welcome. Thank you for submitting.
whaack: BingoBoingo: At the time, this amounted to approximately .290 Bitcoins per student. With roughly 4,500 undergraduates, this was MIT's way of showing that they were in a position to easily let go of about 1,300 Bitcoins at the time. << I think the double "at the time" reads weird, but not too big a deal.
Bingoboingo: changed the second one to "then"
whaack: cool
ben_vulpes: whaack: get buschel in here?
assbot: The Newman School -> IB Economics Students Meet with MIT Bitcoin Club President ... ( http://bit.ly/220hgVK )
ben_vulpes still chuckling
whaack: ben_vulpes: Sure I'll try.
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mircea_popescu: Bingoboingo you mean bi-tcion ?
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danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-12-2015#1342473 << heh. that's the thing i use to manage my eulorian accounts. The stupid thing mangles my urls to chatlogs, I learned yesterday. Adds a '?' after a '#'
assbot: Logged on 13-12-2015 21:25:08; mircea_popescu: who the fuck gets acquihired by "hootsuite"
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asciilifeform: ;;later tell Bingoboingo 'The make a specify point of emphasizing' << ??!
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: '3 30-minute student-led presentations (in pairs) on Ethereum, Stellar Consensus, Stellar ... Proof-of-existence (IP, contracts, etc ...); MIT Certificates' << ahahaha l0ltr0n1c
asciilifeform: wasn't 'stellar' some idiocy last seen in the defunct dead tree 'bitcoin magazine' ?
asciilifeform: from their required reading: 'Why is Bitcoin forking' (mike hearn)
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski are you taking this "no infants sleeping on their bellies" thing seriously?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform did not actually know how far gone the mit thing were
ben_vulpes: the whole SIDS thing reeks of idiopathic "we don't know what's going on but here try these things so that you feel in control"
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: there's always hrdy's hypothesis.
asciilifeform: but don't expect to hear that one from the quacks
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: well yes, that was the nucleating input
ben_vulpes: i'm also expecting he-who-knows-all-about-raising-children-without-ever-having-had-any to chime in
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: ever get company-mode working?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: got as far as actually building the llvm toolchain on one box
asciilifeform: after that, went back to actual wurk and haven't really stopped for long enough to try any more
ben_vulpes had to beat emacs into supporting ruby this week, company-mode served well
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: c/cpp don't come with a handy repl
asciilifeform: hence the difficulty.
asciilifeform: (repl langs are more or less trivial to emacsize)
asciilifeform: also it is mid-december and 23C here.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: wut!?
asciilifeform has yet to encounter a reason to keep ruby installed anywhere
asciilifeform: the one time i tried to use it, it reminded me unpleasantly of dylan
asciilifeform: (and other, even more deservedly-obscure attempts at infixization of 'scheme')
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform has yet to march in an army so hungry it's drawing lots for the pots apparently
asciilifeform: what's hunger to do with the use of strange puzzle langs ?
asciilifeform: or is ruby a 'salt mine lang' now
asciilifeform: and ben_vulpes & co. are drawing lots for the pots now ?!
asciilifeform: did i miss something..?
ben_vulpes: the latter, and has been for many years.
ben_vulpes: well no thats why you eat the mats when you find them
asciilifeform: ;;seen mats
gribble: mats was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 weeks, 1 day, 19 hours, 49 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <mats> rolling off the cheeks of the slaves doncha know
asciilifeform: now where'd he go.
asciilifeform ventures to guess that mats finally got that long-coveted job at his local kitten recycling plant.
ben_vulpes: laird pete_dushenski chased him off with the +1 blog of intimidation
ben_vulpes: class Base < Metal
ben_vulpes: 'clever' fucking developers and their miserable abstraction naming schemes
assbot: Fake Lairdship Sellers' Scams | Fake Scots Titles ... ( http://bit.ly/1miV1Kg )
asciilifeform: ^ i recall the ads in 'scientific american' re: same. anybody ?
asciilifeform: interestingly, there does not appear to be ANY record of them having existed, on the whole net.
shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-12-2015#1342541 <<< /me wonders what happened to mats as well.
assbot: Logged on 13-12-2015 23:22:38; gribble: mats was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 weeks, 1 day, 19 hours, 49 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <mats> rolling off the cheeks of the slaves doncha know
asciilifeform: from the lulzy old b00k of the day/week/epoch club: 'The Art of Executive Protection' ( R.L. Oatman & Associates, Inc.)
asciilifeform: it would be quite interesting to read a version of this book with the sign bit flipped
asciilifeform: e.g. 'the art of executive elimination'
asciilifeform: but somehow it is difficult to imagine this appearing in a dusty secondhand b00k sh0p near you.
asciilifeform: oatman's business card fell out when i opened the thing. which is a new sp4mz0r record in my personal memory.
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danielpbarron: wyrdmantis, you wanna do some work for me?
danielpbarron: !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.wyrdmantis.1:bebe7a3b61906a116b9857974849dc3fd8eaa05c66e4a00c846ea6259256873a
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for wyrdmantis with note: fellow Eulorian; built some claims for me
danielpbarron: !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.diana_coman.2:dba3da3839fc0052905b86c13e166d8e514e01060515d64ae807a64bbfd5f948
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for diana_coman from 1 to 2 with note: fellow Eulorian; gatherer of groceries, and builder of bots
danielpbarron: !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.mod6.3:d1c206a1729acdefd25b4029459ab6a63b1b97e5e668f64756a6685d396cbe97
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for mod6 from 2 to 3 with note: fellow Eulorian; did some crafting for me
Bingoboingo: * asciilifeform did not actually know how far gone the mit thing were << Kinda why Qntra research requires not just wallowing with the eagles, but wallowing with pigs as well
mircea_popescu: "MIT's hostile actions towards Bitcoin doesn't by any means stop there" << ungrammar
danielpbarron: !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.birdman.5:2669f7065e4491723bc9a9bb0ab68fc6848f175ccbe7ecebc44ea47f7a0779f4
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for birdman from 3 to 5 with note: many years in my meat-wot; fellow Eulorian; greatest gatherer
Bingoboingo: One of these days Qntra is going to have to find an editor which can Engligh.
mircea_popescu: anyway, not bad whack
asciilifeform can inglisch but has very full handz presently
assbot: The MIT Administration Infiltrates Bitcoin Projects | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nrdv1X )
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mircea_popescu: aaaanswert
asciilifeform: aaha yes
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gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ^ and for anyone else with an interest in mega-pr0bl3m
asciilifeform: (fragging in trb)
assbot: The Standard Librarian: What Are Allocators Good For? | Dr Dobb's ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y8vgNL )
mod6: thx for posting
assbot: Improving Performance with Custom Pool Allocators for STL | Dr Dobb's ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y8vPr4 )
asciilifeform: ^ more to the point
asciilifeform: http://www.josuttis.com/cppcode/allocator.html << src from the b00k where i even saw this
assbot: User-Defined Allocator ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y8w4Cv )
asciilifeform: one of you folks is gonna have to do this, y'know !!
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PeterL: so I was playing with the idea of http://trilema.com/2015/the-pgp-w-mode/
assbot: The PGP -w mode on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1PUEQz6 )
PeterL: and I came up with http://btcscoop.com/steg/
assbot: Index of /steg ... ( http://bit.ly/1NOFrk0 )
PeterL: it would be nice if someone familliar with python could take a look at it?
PeterL: and tell me how horrible it is?
assbot: Change default block priority size to 0 by morcos · Pull Request #7022 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1NOGr7w )
assbot: A surprising number of Americans endorse violence against the government. Here’s why. - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1NOGv7h )
mircea_popescu: oh, the fishwrap got a spin to contribute ?
mircea_popescu: BECAUSE.GOVERNMENT.SUCKS. d'oh.
mircea_popescu: PeterL that's a miserable list.
mircea_popescu: abaci !?
PeterL: which list?
PeterL: oh, the word list?
assbot: [AUCTION] 2013 1/2-oz. silver Casascius .5 BTC piece ... ( http://bit.ly/1YdSBbx )
assbot: Why donors demand immediate elections after unrest in developing countries - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1YdSzjZ )
nubbins`: in which a seller auctions a high-value coin without realizing how much it's worth
Bingoboingo: !up referredbyqntra
mircea_popescu: yeah the word list.
mircea_popescu: !up renard_abroad
Bingoboingo: !up renard_abroad
nubbins`: hi renard
nubbins`: !up renard_abroad
nubbins`: both of ya, useless
PeterL: that could certainly use attention, the idea is to have several lists to choose from
nubbins`: renard_abroad: yet.
nubbins`: welcome
renard_abroad: peterl: server barfs on config.py
PeterL: hmm, i'll try to fix that, just a sec
mircea_popescu: that is the idea, yes. but the other idea is that it's not safe to use more than a few hundred words because natural language usage does not normally distribute.
renard_abroad: nbd just fyi
renard_abroad: can it be any wordset or a specifically normally-distributed one?
PeterL: ok, renamed and now it shows (if you want to run this, I think you need to make it .py again)
PeterL: the idea is you use whatever dictionary you want, i included 3
PeterL: but whoever decrypts it must then use the exact same list file
PeterL: the one problem i am still trying to fix is that it seems to ignore using a specified dictionary and always uses whatever defalt is in the config , I think i might have something wrong in the python logic
mircea_popescu: sounds exactly like what teh nsa'd do.
PeterL: mircea_popescu: it actually looks better when i use the short list i pulled out of my head, simple.dict, rather than the full list
PeterL: Now rob circle rib sew south wind bit park you, welt chomp swing through. Hag bounce hack ha
PeterL: rd light vale, acid.
PeterL: Crenelate untwists pronating memorializes beclouds. Cellophane gush harmfully inferences bor
PeterL: ons abeyance.
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PeterL: two lines each for the same message, but with different lists
mircea_popescu: notsobad.
mircea_popescu: a grammarizer might help put the comma in better, but yeah.
PeterL: well, randomly selected words will ignore grammar rules
mircea_popescu: yeah. this is a topic for study, it's not even clear more grammar-ness is a good thing.
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asciilifeform: i confess that i still don't see the point of the exercise:
asciilifeform: this is sad stego
asciilifeform: easily detectable with naked eye.
asciilifeform: and it grates on the nerves, even. esp. if you were on usenet in the late '90s and suffered through the 'hipcrime' crud
PeterL: use the resulting words as first words in lines of a poem?
asciilifeform: use however you like, but any public agreement re: precisely what to do kills the whole point of stego
PeterL: asciilifeform: easily detectable with naked eye. << or does it just look like sapm?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-12-2015#1342638 << the solution to this is to use a corpus distilled from your own logz
assbot: Logged on 14-12-2015 03:00:57; mircea_popescu: that is the idea, yes. but the other idea is that it's not safe to use more than a few hundred words because natural language usage does not normally distribute.
PeterL: could be easy enough to specify a document and have it remove duplicates to generate a word list
PeterL: would just require a couple more lines of code when opening the wordlist file
asciilifeform: for the record, imho this is a disastrously bad idea
mircea_popescu: yeah that'd never work.
PeterL: why disasterous?
asciilifeform: i for one am not looking forward to ~ever~ having to mentally filter this diarrhea out of conversation
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what conversation.
asciilifeform: anywhere where naked eye might encounter it
asciilifeform: (which presumably was the point of the proposal - make the enemy expend human labour to distinguish pgpgrams, rather than the present condition of being able to do so mechanically)
PeterL: is it so much worse than a pgpgram output?
asciilifeform: whole point is to blur the distinction between 'human text' and pgpgram, no ?
PeterL: you don't have to look at it, just copy the file of text and point the program at it
asciilifeform: can somebody (preferably mircea_popescu, whose idea this was) describe - roughly - the point of this ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so that it drowns out "conversation", ie, any plain channel stuff.
mircea_popescu: step 1 : build perfect radsuit. step 2 : glass the place.
asciilifeform: why even use a legacy system like irc then
mircea_popescu: i don't plan to use irc forever.
mircea_popescu: and i expect gossipd to be undistinguishable for the phillipino/redditarded eye from current b-a log.
asciilifeform: what's the point of the word salad when you have properly ciphered bits
mircea_popescu: that it makes life impossible for the lesser people, who still depend on being able to chat without access to proper tools.
Bingoboingo: Grammarizer needs to aspire to creating stego prose leik: "Bob's feet were a horror. Advanced stages of gout had swollen his feet which were covered in sores, growths, and hard scaly patches. I know this because Bob's shoes were improvised flip flops, clearly hand made. I can only imagine normal shoes don't come in sizes that would fit over the swollen sacs of disease that passed for his feet. I'm not sure how he walked on these s
Bingoboingo: wollen growths, but they had to be painful."
mircea_popescu: shit on the poor. it's a program.
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nubbins`: now where'd i leave my milking gloves?
mircea_popescu: you drink glove milk ?!
nubbins`: do people wear gloves to milk?
nubbins`: of note, there's a copy of the genesis block times in there
Bingoboingo: lol, nubbins is cashing out and bro'ing down
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nubbins`: gotta stey in whey
nubbins`: some chump sold the newspaper to me for 0.25 btc
nubbins`: maybe i'm the chump tho. we will see
mircea_popescu: the bitcoin event horizon is such that anyone who buys is a chump on a long enough timeline.
mircea_popescu: !up white
Bingoboingo: !up white pawah
Bingoboingo: *powah
white: thanks
nubbins`: mircea_popescu this is true
white: is punkman around?
nubbins`: that time i paid an average of 0.5 btc per jazz cigarette, for example
mircea_popescu: that other time when you called blunts "jazz cigarettes"
nubbins`: blunts are this whole other thing
nubbins`: kinda gross really
Bingoboingo: white: If he's not on nao he'll usually be on in the next few hours
nubbins`: i've been big on spliffs lately
white: ok thanks
Bingoboingo: Really I thing -w mode stego should aspire to https://archive.is/plA29
assbot: Tales from 35,000ft: Behind the Beetus Beast : fatpeoplestories ... ( http://bit.ly/1NOKqB6 )
nubbins`: Bingoboingo just curious, do you have body image issues
Bingoboingo back in the day used to like blunts and spiffs
Bingoboingo: nubbins`: Nah, at last not any more than any recovering alcoholic how last time on a dating site chose the "used up" body type at 24
Bingoboingo actually found the "swoleacceptance" thing as an easy whey to farm reddit karma for the idiogeneering.
nubbins`: used up!
Bingoboingo: What can I say. When I was a kid I wanted to grow up to be the kinda man who drank whiskey and I grew up to be the kind of man who drank whiskey.
nubbins`: i got a friend who's been through some times
nubbins`: we're walking around the town one day, the worst type of stinky rotten bum comes up to him
nubbins`: "buddy, you look the way i feel"
nubbins`: shambles off
Bingoboingo realized he might have a problem when started leaving friends at the bar to chill with bums in the gutter.
nubbins`: sometimes one needs to drink all the booze
Bingoboingo: Yeah, but even going to 3-5 storytime sessions a week leaves me far more useful time in the day than a bottle does. That's really gotta be what scares Coindesk et al about qntra year 2.
Bingoboingo: That an serious talk now. Throw a dollar in the basket to assuage your guilt about all the coffee you can drink in an hour? What beats that.
Bingoboingo: Sure ben_vulpes et al would prolly shit on the coffee, but seriously not bad stuff for the middle west.
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mircea_popescu: oh is it microbrew ?
mircea_popescu: i hear cascadia only permits microbrew.
Bingoboingo: Usually when I see the cans it's Folgers or similar, brewed to extreme strength of caffeine.
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