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billymg: any signs of the riots starting in your area yet?
thimbronion: Louisville and LA saw some action yesterday
billymg: asciilifeform: none scheduled, but seems to be spreading to other areas with high orc populations
shinohai: "Do you have a permit for this chimpout? Can't riot without a permit." "Damn."
BingoBoingo: ^ Seems far more effective than anything the low on melanin crowd managed in the US this past century.
thimbronion was on zoom call this morning with some people in the area whose trips to Target hat to be cancelled and who claimed to hear lots of shooting.
adlai: when folks are shooting, it is indeed a good idea to be far away from targets
adlai: although there's a whole art and science of conic sections and how to not get killed. fun stuff.
snsabot: Logged on 2020-05-29 12:03:28 BingoBoingo: ^ Seems far more effective than anything the low on melanin crowd managed in the US this past century.
adlai: "in other news" (tm) /s (r) : there appear to be new fleas stuck crawling my 'blog'. i sincerely hope that not a single one of these is piloted by joerodgers , not because i have any problem with crawlers mucking along through that site, but because it is not included in lists of "bitcoin blogs" for the simple reason that it is not a bitcoin blog and should not be considered one.
snsabot: (agriculturalsupremacy) 2020-05-27 asciilifeform: thimbronion: i've been seeing record-breaking qty of http liquishit on own boxen recently. appears to be side effect of mp's 'buy www traffic' thing (i expect erryone he linked to at whatever point, is getting 'stress test' )
adlai: seriously, read yourself to death in the the NYTimes tech blogs before you go looking for anything 'tech' in my site. it is, and always will be, almost entirely bounded by mathematics of no practical utility on one side, regrets from my own mistakes on a second side, and possibly a few different forms of fiction in the remaining hyperplanes
adlai: asciilifeform: no, although i read the logs with my own eyes, so i notice when crawlers seem to be eating their own tails; or, when a fresh one shows up.
adlai: that is because you actually publish interesting stuff! so you get linked from all kinds of places
adlai: dunno how you judge freshness. i typically look at the 'shape' of the graph of pages requested, and only glance at the ip column, and whatever you call the self-identification of the crawlers, as a curiosity. they are usually not reliable, anyway.
joerodgers: @adlai I've already wrapped your RSS in lightning and began collecting payments for your great work! Many thanks!
adlai: bahahaha joerodgers ya got a laugh out of me there !
adlai: it is most probably an entirely automatable task, these days. you could probably install a program that'd run in the background as seamlessly as the "Generate Coins" checkbox of bitcoin circa 2009.
adlai: for all you know, half the 'viruses' on your computer do exactly this, and nothing else... no shitcoin mining, no ddos, just diffusing the ip footprint of someone's web crawler.
adlai: that makes sense. my impression of DDoS botnets is that they are a classic case of your 'glass cannon' metaphor.
adlai: so, anyone who wants to keep their botnets alive for longer than one shot, does something other than ddos
adlai speculates, though, not being as familiar as you with these warez!
adlai: joerodgers: don't worry, if I ever do have an article - singular, most likely - about bitcoin that could actually be relevant to your archive, I'll ping you.
adlai: "nine nines" of the things that I say about bitcoin are taken from authors that you have already archived.
adlai: ... and you can probably simulate my opinions about the remaining tenth-to-the-tenth from the copious kilobytes of argument that I have had in the public logs served so graciously by asciilifeform !
adlai: not much changed, lol. sbcl, talking to an exchange, is still one of the top contributors to the heat death of my computer.
shinohai: You still work on scalpl adlai ?
adlai: occasionally eclipsed by prb, although i don't see a reason to leave prb running any more than, e.g., gimp.
adlai: shinohai: most of the 'work' these days involves planning, since writing code faster than you can delete it is a great way to end up with a giant unmaintainable mess.
shinohai: Yeah exchange api's are fickle things, doesn't make sense to cast in stone I suppose.
adlai: asciilifeform: convenience. it is not worthwhile to dabble in trb, that is more of an all-or-nothing approach; however, if i'm gonna occasionally punt a coin between exchanges, or send a donation to someone, then prb is imo the desktop equivalent of 'wallet app' for a pnoje
shinohai: 'can even withdraw the winnings, or mpex?'
adlai: re: bucketshops, my impression is that the industry will have to improve its behavior, eventually; although, it'll take decades for educated consumerism to enforce this, since money is quite stupid.
adlai: there is a lot of truth to "if u so smart, how cum u aint rich" - smart and rich are not only orthogonal, but often, capital causes early pruning of unnecessary brain cells
adlai: maybe asciilifeform imagines me to own stacks of early adoptronium?
adlai has never seen more than two digits of btc in the same place, and even that, barely
adlai: re:bucketshops, by 'industry' i mean the retail side of things. the folks who are able to frontrun their customers, before hedging the entire customer base against an actual forex broker, or stock exchange.
adlai: also known as half of israeli's hitech sector, although a mere shadow next to the things that go whoosh in the night
adlai: correct, it is not provable; at least, not according to my understanding of what is provable, and what is not.
adlai: however, it could become easier to "bank run" on bad actors, provided that good actors exist, and traders are slightly more intelligent than the average "MtGox WHERE'S MY MONEY" protestor
adlai: asciilifeform: am I wrong in perceiving that your distrust is towards the bucket shops, rather than all exchanges?
snsabot: Logged on 2020-05-26 11:52:21 asciilifeform: fwiw i've yet to hear of any 'btc fortune' amassed via anything other than scamming. in that respect very similar to traditional moneys.
adlai: for purposes of this question: NYSE is not a bucket shop, although it could very well be that you need a "seat" in order to not have your broker be one of the bucketers.
adlai: a bucket shop is a very specific thing.
adlai: the word "bucket" is there because it used to be the case that brokers would collect lots of bets, figure out the net position they needed to take in the real exchange, to hedge the positions of their customers, and then send someone to the exchange to hedge the broker's books; i.e., they bucketed all the trades they needed to make.
adlai: eventually it became credible to claim that every trade by a customer, was immediately relayed to the exchange, and that all the broker did was this relaying.
adlai: there, not much of a qualitative difference, no. definitely not the kind of difference that interests you.
adlai: however, it is simply incorrect to call mtgox a bucket shop, the same way it'd be incorrect to ... e.g. call me a gook. you can call me a kike, or a scammer, or a neckbeard, or all kinds of things, but calling me a gook is just... factually incorrect.
adlai: as someone who has pried things out of more than one dog's locked jaws - difference exists.
adlai: I can understand why it is not a difference that interests ~you~, asciilifeform !
adlai: but, the difference exists.
adlai: for lack of a better euphemism - stuntmen, who either get paid to jump through the burning hoop, or do it for fun.
adlai: and yes, stuntmen often end up going the way of Art Scholl, if they are fortunate enough to have such a notable employer
snsabot: (trilema) 2017-06-08 a111: Logged on 2015-03-06 03:29 mircea_popescu: if you are one of the people buying belgian rubber concessions on the stock exchanges, you make money. if you're in africa, you make quick with the hands and feet.
adlai: you may have noticed that I put quite a bit of effort into discouraging others from using my program, precisely for the reason that it increases the chance they end up as fuel in someone else's chumpatron.
adlai: maybe one day I'll have my own perpetuum mobile, powered by the free energy of gullible tourists and greedy americans; that day is probably further in the future than my funeral.
adlai: "When I was a student, my professor taught me the difference between a good question, and a great question: a great question is one to which the professor has already prepared an answer, ahead of time. What Adlai just asked me is only a good question." - adlai's ochem professor, circa 2018
adlai: dude waited for laughter to die down and proceeded to continue his lecture, unfazed
adlai will try and do one better, and actually answer asciilifeform 's question!
adlai: there are assets that purport to give you passive income, purely due to investment of capital in someone else's business, and earning from its profits - stocks.
adlai: there are also assets that purport no such promise... most of the world is this kind of asset: pretty much anything you can knock off a table, along with a fair amount of the various financial mumbo-jumbo. also bitcoin.
snsabot: (ossasepia) 2020-05-29 diana_coman: hm, I am not aware of any decent sub-line diff tool, no.
adlai: eh, that's more interesting than me retelling the legend of the fifth jew lost in the orchard
adlai: y'know, if what interested me was writing a bot to play on poker sites, or learning how to get that epsilon percentage edge at blackjack so I could be a professional casino customer, I'd be studying those games, and not the 'numbers game'.
adlai: "quick with the hands and feet", I hear it can even earn more than min. wage if you are quick enough!
adlai can't quite yet pinpoint a specific dilexeme, or turn of phrase, but there is just something about diana_coman's version of mircea_popescu's self-professed only subject of mastery, that grates the cortex
adlai wonders where that one MPism is buried, deep within the logs...
adlai: well maybe if DC hires MP as slavemaster to whip the "younghands" in #ossasepia, she could actually "go to kremlin and get work done" instead of playing manager
adlai: although he's probably as sick of the ESLtards as she is.
adlai: maybe it's not even a dilexeme, and just the word 'agenda'
adlai: ... and ~everything that goes along with it, if you imagine the nice air-conditioned conference room of #ossassepia that parellels the twelfth-century castle of #trilema
adlai: "frog without legs - deaf!"
adlai: speaking of that part of the world, I recently finished "Heart of a Dog", although translated to English, and was wondering whether you recommend the originals
adlai: allegedly there are ru translations of William S. that are better than the original iambig migranamers!
adlai: so your rec of originals is for 100% of ... Bulgakov?
adlai has heard of enough examples in literature of 'original' being mediocre, or even downright awful, when compared to a derived work, to distrust the "always read the original" dogma
adlai: well, english is a creole / patois / whateveryoucallit
adlai: french, for saxon peasants, or something along those lines
adlai: iirc 'patois' is the general term, and 'creole' is a specific language, although I am often mistaken in these things
adlai: africa ain't a language, it's a plate!
adlai still can't get into the mother's skull the concept that israel is a part of africa, in the only sense that is objectively definable; this may be a lost cause.
adlai: apparently the World Health Organization considers Israel a part of "European Region", although both Morocco and Iran are "Eastern Mediterranean".
adlai: it's nice to see that the good doctors are so polite about their political science!
adlai will read your elaboration on the subject, since apparently this is one of the few places remaining on the 'net where such a conversation can be had civilly.
adlai: lemme put it this way, unless you have a more specific description of the symptoms, i see the 'africa' of which you speak as quite prevalent in most parts of the world.
adlai: rather synonymous to typical human idiocy
adlai was thinking that maybe by calling it 'africa', you had in mind something more specific to the kind of idiocy found in nations of the african continent, rather than just the general idiocy of ... for lack of a better euphemism, the one so popular here: 'orcs'
adlai: although I must admit being as unable now, as I was in previous years, to discern whether your 'orcs' are just any rabble, or specific kinds of idiots.
adlai: the euphemism I often used in my own mind for the typical specimen of _H. sapiens sapiens_ is "rabbits", since they win at competitive neoteny, although this might not be the kind of idiocy that you call 'orcs'.
adlai discovers that he is no longer able to speak in #ossasepia, thanks to some combination of dpb, mp, and of course, who could forget... g_l !
adlai: when I stopped lurking there, they had yet to implement the voice requirement.
adlai: amusingly enough, my highest deedbot rating is an imported rating from a dude who iirc never even showed up in #trilema
adlai: incidentally, I'm glad to see that whaack has found a satisfactory content fount in the proverbial sick-string. it is quite an endless timesink, and worth remembering that the best guitarist is always, in every legend known to man, the one who sells proficiency in exchange for the spirit coin.
adlai: no, that is not what I said. what I said is inspired by the fact that his blog seems mostly to be a practice journal, which seems like a good use of a blog.
adlai never kept a practice journal in the years of studying music, although, this was not the 'school' to which any of my teachers ever subscribed. practice journals are probably much more helpful for self-taught musicians.
adlai: my bad, you appear to have encountered the concept, although it doesn't receive much mention.
adlai: aiui, scale "degrees" are more a curio of analytical music theory, whereas modes are more useful for actually playing. obviously ymmv
snsabot: (ossasepia) 2019-12-28 diana_coman: adlai: unsolicited advice is for writing on your own blog, not in here; do write in here when you have some unsolicited but useful work you want to showcase.
adlai: the advice I have about music in general, more specifically manufacturing it, and most specifically, from a guitar, is quite limited, although extensive enough that I'm not going to type it out in the hope that some 22nd-century archeologist of bitcoin finds it useful.
adlai: if there is an audience for it, that is a different matter. idgaf what falls into the nonexistent begging dish.
shinohai: I'm surprised DC finally "gave him permission" to play guitar, what with all the other imprtant work going on there that needs doing.
shinohai: But why would you need own OS? Terrorist!
shinohai: The pinebook plastics just looked .... cheap to me.
snsabot: (trilema) 2016-11-28 asciilifeform: ( in a much earlier even thread , about the marvell chipset used in pogotron, i found same thing -- the chip is simply not www-orderable in the west, at least not at any kind of price point that isn't a laugh when stood next to the price of whole pogo )
trinque: asciilifeform: I actually have a pinebook pro coming in a few weeks
trinque: intending to put my new distro on it, will report back on whether the thing sucks
trinque: if doesn't suck, I'm going to order a stack of them
shinohai: Heya trinque .... how goes the new distro thing anyway?
trinque: whole turd builds as of recently, actually.
trinque: I might find some time this weekend to crack off a peek, will see
shinohai: Awesum trinque I look forward to seeing it unveiled.
trinque: asciilifeform: I just added one to cart on their site
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trinque: I think they just got bum-rushed, which is hopefully a positive thing for their longevity