Results 1 ... 45 found in all logged channels for 'mining is a bug'
(asciilifeform) signpost: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log-search?q=mining+is+a+bug&chan=all << you might find some interesting conversations here.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: was thrd re 'why mining is a bug'. already can observe that it costs some participants less, in effect, than others (not because anyone openly broke sha2, but because large miner can preferentially build on own prev. blocks)
(asciilifeform) lru: well that link to "mining is a bug" logs yielded the idea that splitting mining/CPU and nodes/storage is a bad thing... good to know
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: shinohai: i experimented w/ it. but it , iirc, is stone dead , on acct of 'mining is a bug'(tm)(r)
(trilema) asciilifeform: it's riotously obnoxious and erry time i encounter it , cements in my head the 'mining is a bug'
(trilema) a111: 26 results for "mining is a bug", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=mining%20is%20a%20bug
(trilema) asciilifeform: this being said, 'mining is a bug'(tm), if i knew how to gruesomely slaughter all miners while keeping something like working bitcoin net, i promise to say how.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: (which goes back to a long held asciilifeform notion, of "mining is a bug" -- certainly, but looky here : mining is also the direct result of "i want a shunt for the bruteforce, so i can say to people, "x is cheaper therefore y won't happen")
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2017-12-27 01:58 asciilifeform: i'd like to encourage trinque to put some of his 'crackpot' algos 'to paper', as articles. the hypertext thing was interesting imho, for instance, and so was earlier trinque pill for 'mining is a bug', and possibly other occasions. dun be afraid to write down conjectures, trinque , gauss did
(trilema) asciilifeform: i'd like to encourage trinque to put some of his 'crackpot' algos 'to paper', as articles. the hypertext thing was interesting imho, for instance, and so was earlier trinque pill for 'mining is a bug', and possibly other occasions. dun be afraid to write down conjectures, trinque , gauss did
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2017-12-02 16:22 mircea_popescu: anwyay, revisiting an ancient conversation re http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=mining+is+a+bug : i have to thoroughly concede this point to asciilifeform . the model is as follows : if a) a PoW system exists in which b) a participating entity can recognize work done by itself as opposed to work done by others then it NECESSARILY follow that entity can, and therefore it ALSO follows that it eventually will c) impose further con
(trilema) asciilifeform: upstack in re 'mining is a bug' , asciilifeform has a theoretical pill, potentially interesting , but will chew on it for some weeks -- there's gotta be a catch
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2017-12-02 16:22 mircea_popescu: anwyay, revisiting an ancient conversation re http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=mining+is+a+bug : i have to thoroughly concede this point to asciilifeform . the model is as follows : if a) a PoW system exists in which b) a participating entity can recognize work done by itself as opposed to work done by others then it NECESSARILY follow that entity can, and therefore it ALSO follows that it eventually will c) impose further con
(trilema) mircea_popescu: anwyay, revisiting an ancient conversation re http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=mining+is+a+bug : i have to thoroughly concede this point to asciilifeform . the model is as follows : if a) a PoW system exists in which b) a participating entity can recognize work done by itself as opposed to work done by others then it NECESSARILY follow that entity can, and therefore it ALSO follows that it eventually will c) impose further con
(trilema) mircea_popescu: point being, until and unless the process is thoroughly and well understood, we'll keep being blindsided by "mining is a bug" bugs.
(trilema) asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'every user a currency issuer' is the only 'solution' i currently know to 'mining-is-a-bug'
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2016-10-21 00:47 mircea_popescu: anyway, if mining is a bug, then the philosopher king is a backdoor.
(trilema) asciilifeform: 'mining is a bug' because, as mircea_popescu even appeared to agree earlier, it is promisetronic.
(trilema) asciilifeform: the orbit of my personal inner altcrackpot is largely around 'mining is a bug'.
(trilema) adlai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-04#1552285 << s/latency issue/!s mining is a bug/ i've been trying to make sense of the issue. it's not headfit yet, but maybe this will help others too: http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/scalingbitcoin/milan/chainbreak/
(trilema) asciilifeform: perhaps i had everything backwards.. possibly, being able to transact ~without~ mining, is the bug. not mining...
(trilema) ascii_butugychag: the more i think about it, the more it seems to me that mining is a catastrophic bug per se
(trilema) BingoBoingo: They are definitely a bug satoshi missed when he wrote up mining attached nodes.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: and in the latest eulora news : today's bug is, "mp just got a large mining find, so large in fact that it didn't fit in his mining claim, so it got truncated."
(trilema) asciilifeform: jurov: perhaps i should not have said 'mining' specifically. idea here is that once the buggers give up trying to destroy bitcoin, they will transition to employing any and all tools at their disposal - for robbery.