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asciilifeform falls down.
ben_vulpes: best lolz i found on the web all day.
asciilifeform: at last, the ancient dream. pornoshannonizer.
ben_vulpes: haha aha
asciilifeform: idea, incidentally, is ancient.
asciilifeform: i 'evolved' similar 'martians' in an old msdos proggy, iirc called 'imogene'.
asciilifeform: unfortunately none of the output - survived.
asciilifeform: (or, fortunately..)
asciilifeform: evolved, incidentally, starting from white noise.
asciilifeform: pure 'genetic algo'. pick the 'more fun', times 1,001...
ben_vulpes: there was a screensaver that did this as well
phf: asciilifeform: hey you mind greping for the first log entry, "just looked at chart... shit... a couple hours can be an eternity in bitcoin land" and see what time you have?
asciilifeform: phf: Apr 25 18:01:31
phf: is that 23:01:31 in utc?
trinque: << discussion of gaddafi's plans for gold-backed african currency
trinque: interesting alt-future that'd be
asciilifeform: ooold noose.
trinque: reminds me of a documentary I watched recently on chicago. a young black gang member says more or less "they killed all the gang leaders, and then everything collapsed"
asciilifeform: fella got usg bayonet up his starfish for a reason.
trinque: killed/locked-up
trinque: aha
trinque: same mistake every single time. they have imperial aspirations, yet they apparently have no idea how to do this? you don't destroy the whole power structure in a place; you *take* it
asciilifeform: they gotta impose the star topology.
trinque: I hear there are reasons, and it's because of them.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform certainly.
mircea_popescu: heh the ai-nsfw crap is almost amusing.
mircea_popescu: trinque africa needs a currency like hillary needs anal lube.
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz, if your name was broderick and you had a daughter, how could you not name her limerick.
mircea_popescu: (bonus track : A randy marsupial named Reeves spent a while between a cocksucker's knees. When she asked him for money he said "Listen honey... a koala eats bushes and leaves.")
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Error: "b" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: wait, i got more.
mircea_popescu: Said Miguel to the gringo, "Senor, eef I open thees here closet door an' dee lady eenside ees my leetle lost bride then I theenk I mus' leek'er some more."
shinohai: !~later tell BingoBoingo <<< before my internet dies again
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: 'The Defendant has also communicated online with others in languages other than English, including in Russian, and in June 2016 downloaded information regarding the Russian language as well as other foreign languages.' << mega-crime
asciilifeform: didjaknow.
asciilifeform: 'There is evidence that he has remote data storage accounts and has engaged in encrypted communications. The Defendant also had encrypted communication and cloud storage apps installed on his mobile device.' << mega-lel.
asciilifeform: funny how they put the 'cloud storage' in the bail denial affidavit, but have not yet even bothered to parallelconstruct some reason ~other than it~ for how the d00d could have been caught.
asciilifeform: (for folks who have not heard of this show trial - harold martin worked at nsa-tao and was arrested for, supposedly, taking the contents home by the crate.)
asciilifeform: 'In a review of the digital information seized from the Defendant, the government found a letter, apparently created in 2007, which was addressed to government employees with whom he worked, and signed “Hal.” In the letter, the Defendant refers to his co-workers as “clowns” and criticizes the government’s digital security measures: Well, for one thing, I’ve seen pretty much all your tech secrets wrt [sic] regard to compus
asciilifeform: ec [computer security]. Thanks. You made me a much better infosec [information security] practitioner. In exchange, well, I gave you my time, and you failed to allow me to help you... You are missing most of the basics in security practice, while thinking you are the best. It’s the bread and butter stuff that will trip you up. Trust me on this one. Seen it.... Dudes/Dudettes, I can’t make this any plainer... Listen up . . . ‘Th
asciilifeform: ey’ are inside the perimeter. . . I’ll leave you with this: if you don’t get obnoxious, obvious, and detrimental to my future, then I will not bring you ‘into the light’, as it were. If you do, well, remember that you did it to yourselves. The antipathy demonstrated in this letter raises grave concerns about the Defendant’s intentions and potential actions should he be released.'
BingoBoingo: tyvm alf for the find
deedbot: << Qntra - Prosecutors Forget To Parallel Construct That Harold T. Martin's Mistake Was Trusting Cloud Storage Providers In Bail Denial Affidavit
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform pretty lulzy.
mircea_popescu: also quite accurate.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: mistake-was -> mistake-wasn't ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: He used cloud storage apps so his mistake was trusting them? Even if he was dumping encrypted blobs.
asciilifeform: well yes
asciilifeform: but 'parallel construct' means the creation of some smoke screen
asciilifeform: e.g., 'he blabbed to his mother' or the like.
mircea_popescu: they evidently don't know what's in [at least some] of them. however they do know who he is. metadata.
asciilifeform: which afaik the prosecutor has not yet spewed forth.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they've got real sloppy with it, partly because nobody buys it anyway, partly because bureaucrats are deeply uncreative (in this case, practically : affraid of "revealing" shit through the pc. as if they actually had something left to reveal.)
asciilifeform: so the sentence would go 'prosecutors forget to parallel construct that ... martin's mistake wasn't ... cloud'
BingoBoingo: AH: "Prosecutors Forget To Parallel Construct Away That Harold T. Martin's Mistake Was Trusting Cloud Storage Providers In Bail Denial Affidavit" -- New TItle
asciilifeform: aha, or this.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun get why they even mentioned 'cloud', it gave the card trick away in, srsly, 30 seconds of my reading
asciilifeform: gotta be a deliberate taunt to the audience.
mircea_popescu: because bread and butter stuff gets them ?
deedbot: << Qntra - Dyn DNS Suffers Packet Inflation, Many Other "Services" Affected
mircea_popescu: stupidity is the occam selection.
asciilifeform: the defense's affidavit (included) was also lulzy, evidently they had 1-3 of these per year, none were publicized. this time they needed a public scapegoat, so.
asciilifeform: re: 'cloud', imho the hypothesis that ~this was~ the parallelconstruction, cannot be dismissed.
asciilifeform: possibly d00d was not an idiot, and never touched 'clouds.'
asciilifeform: they created - for him.
asciilifeform: (whereas he was caught in some other way, e.g. by a politruk.)
mircea_popescu: if they did or if they didn't, the "i had nothing to do with it" defense is ironclad as far as that goes.
asciilifeform: dunno that there is a defense. the penal code article he was arrested under is a 'strict liability'.
asciilifeform: i.e. 'did the rape? do the ape'
mircea_popescu: strict liability for what ?
asciilifeform: found with the stash
mircea_popescu: "i never saw this before"
asciilifeform: the only defense, afaik, that could be attempted, was 'they planted it'
mircea_popescu: "so how come it's there ?" "you planted it" no we didn't" "mkay"
asciilifeform: and it would appear that his wife has already turned rat.
mircea_popescu: "it's your house" "it's not legal for me to shoot intruders, so no, it's your house"
asciilifeform: so he's through.
mircea_popescu: hey, marriage is for suckers.
asciilifeform: eh if he had no wife, it'd be some other rat.
mircea_popescu: how ? "i never saw her before."
asciilifeform: lel, brilliant, it's a marvel that anybody ever gets imprisoned, if it were so easy..
mircea_popescu: these are different matters.
mircea_popescu: the defense is still ironclad. that they stick him in jail anyway is entirely their problem.
asciilifeform: i suspect that the folks for whom 'the defense is ironclad' they simply nailgun.
asciilifeform: and we never hear of it.
asciilifeform: 'When confronted with specific marked documents he had stolen, only then did the Defendant begin to admit that: (1) he had taken documents and digital files that he knew were classified from his work assignment to his residence and vehicle, and (2) he knew such actions were unauthorized and wrong. He also admitted that he had committed these crimes regularly over many years.'
asciilifeform: confessed, supposedly.
asciilifeform: btw i doubt that it would take otto skorzeny and his merry men, to break martin out of the clink. if he were 'valuable', as prosecutor alleges, he would already be in moscow.
mircea_popescu: usians are weird about "The country"
mircea_popescu: he prolly didn't want to leave
asciilifeform: expected to hide among the grizzlies in the forest, or wat.
mircea_popescu: no, just, idiot born in the us, doesn't comprehend how utterly irrelevant it is. because "THE COUNTRY"
asciilifeform: i'd naively picture that if d00d made up his mind to plunder the crown jewels, he would have an escape plan (even if nonsensical, like, e.g., carl force's) in his head. but no.
mircea_popescu: can't leave "\the country"
trinque: could've been entirely power fantasy; he's outsmarted "teh best (tm)" after all
asciilifeform: it isn't even as if he would have to leave penniless and beg on streets.
trinque: piles of docs could've been his closet full of women's shoes/underwear/pinky-toes too
asciilifeform: trinque: what kind of 'power fantasy' ends with starving incommunicado in fbi dungeon ?
mircea_popescu: it's a fantasy after all.
deedbot: << Trilema - If a family by the name Broderick had a son an' they named him Roderick could he in turn, without concern, eschew naming his daughter Limerick ?
mircea_popescu: ^ let me know which you like best :D
BingoBoingo: "To fight the evil patriarchy a young hussy barebacked a darky. The result of their sins were quadruplets, not twins : one black, one white and two khaki." << roflmao
trinque: ahahahahaha!
trinque: There was a young sailor from Brighton who once told his girl "You're a tight one." She replied, "`Pon my soul, you're in the wrong hole. There's plenty of room in the right one." << also gold
mircea_popescu is playing ella fitzgerald an' chillin
shinohai: I rather like `A misfortunate fellow named Rex had a vanishingly small sex. Once charged with exposure he replied with composure "De minimus non curat lex." `
a111: Logged on 2016-10-21 15:22 mircea_popescu: hey, marriage is for suckers.
jhvh1: danielpbarron: ERROR: Failed to load/parse the verse or page. Check your syntax.
danielpbarron: !~bible matthew 19:10-11
jhvh1: danielpbarron: [KJV] Matthew 19:10 :: His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry.
jhvh1: danielpbarron: [KJV] Matthew 19:11 :: But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.
asciilifeform: SSH: Server;Ltype: Authname;Remote:;Name: coin [preauth]
asciilifeform: ^ on a box with nonstandard ports, at that.
asciilifeform: somewhere, someone, is a hydrocephalus, has user 'coin',...?
deedbot: << Qntra - Nitrocellulose Recategorized As High Explosive In US Through Quiet Physics Defying Ruling
BingoBoingo: ^ 4alf
asciilifeform: SSH: Server;Ltype: Authname;Remote:;Name: dashcoin [preauth]
asciilifeform: SSH: Server;Ltype: Authname;Remote:;Name: bitcoin [preauth] .
BingoBoingo: lololololol
shinohai: dash = anonymity
asciilifeform: oh, and, apparently lastly,
asciilifeform: 'eth' .
ben_vulpes: you install mamp on one macbook and the whole internet goes down
ben_vulpes: who knew things were this bad
shinohai: dash = anonymity
trinque: every piece of shit on the web was apparently using dyn?
trinque: what is this nonsense
trinque: to say nothing of being a champ and running your own DNS
a111: Logged on 2015-05-13 22:47 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
asciilifeform: well, derp has blocked
asciilifeform: (we really need a pill against this nonsense)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno of a pill other than replicating the service and closing it to non-l1
mircea_popescu: incidentally ben_vulpes would you be amenable to print email received by on for 24 hours ?
mircea_popescu: alternatively, you could just lift the whole package.
mircea_popescu: i contacted the author, but he's not bothered to write back, so whatevs. would be a useful service for teh republic it seems to me.
asciilifeform: replicate - yes; not sure what l1ing it would do
asciilifeform: (other than raise the friction to the point where ~nobody can ~ever be arsed to use it)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i should care what people i don't know wish to preserve ? as it happens, i don't.
asciilifeform: not 'people i don't know
mircea_popescu: well then let them l themselves.
mircea_popescu: and in other news nobody gives a shit about : the argentine govt announced an "amnesty" whereby idiots with cash in strongboxes/matresses etc can "blanquear" it, by depositing it in a bank and paying 11% in tax ("to begin with"). same applies to foreign holdings.
mircea_popescu: this generous measure of voluntary self-rape "ends" on 31st, after being extended a coupla times. meanwhile the govt has been piling on debt at about 2x the rate of the kirscheristas.
mircea_popescu: seeing how the other, with expatriated goods, ends in march, i would expect the reasonable time for argentina to faceplant in the mud would be about april.
mircea_popescu: if anyone's looking to buy cheap farmer's [who thinks himself a gentleman] daughters / farms / etc, that's your horizon.
asciilifeform: what's the excuse for the vacuum job, devaluation a la ruble ?
mircea_popescu: the real estate market is holding by a thread. to understand each other : in the same country where the bumpkins imagine real estate goes by 1000-1500 usd per sq meter, they have SERIOUS problems over xmas bonus worth 2000 pesos (~120 dollars), to the point it's a major topic of televised debates.
mircea_popescu: sales are down to nothing, the people are utterly desperate for food and other basics. girls still wanna marry, this year like all others. etc.
mircea_popescu: the ~only hope to maintain the pretense is by putting a lot of pressure on the monetary supply. so... they will.
mircea_popescu: not like the average "middle class" (in his mind only) argentine has any other resources besides renting out an apartment and expecting govt payola for his university "education". neither of which look too good at the moment.
asciilifeform: who are the renters?
mircea_popescu: ~everyone. this is the profile of middle class argentinian family : unemployed man que es letrado (=with a law degree, never practiced) + homemaker and their teenaged 2.2 kids, living off a) the man's income from governmental sinecures + the woman's income from her parents' appointed dowry in the shape of real estate. this is it.
mircea_popescu: they have ~500k units privately held by ~3mn owners in bizarro clan arrangements, and virtually no commercial rental market to speak of.
asciilifeform: sooo... they rent apt with... the income from their inherited apt ..?
mircea_popescu: no, they own one and rent another.
asciilifeform: well yes
asciilifeform: but why.
mircea_popescu: because they're about as bright as earthworms ?
mircea_popescu: not nearly as energy efficient however.
mircea_popescu: anyway. the girls wanna marry, the boys dun wanna live with the inlaws, the old folks don't want to move to the old folks' home at 44 (you should see a) how many of those they have here, must be over 5k distinct old folks homes and b) how many of these stupid cunts are saddled with 2-3 kids aged 20something and looking for a new mate. bitch, seriousy ? go suck your babby momma's cock, you're off the market) and the girls got
mircea_popescu: the itch
mircea_popescu: it's set to blow.
mircea_popescu: oh : and soy is down in chicago, and is trending down, and the chinese announced they're dropping 20% of maize to plant more soy in mainland china.
mircea_popescu: soy being the ~only serious product of the argentine. who seriously expects to live like europeans on the basis of farming.
asciilifeform: not estrogenized yet?! lel
asciilifeform: motherfucking bioweapon-masquerading-for-food
mircea_popescu: who ? the chinese ? they're practically 1bn lesbians, are you kidding me ?
mircea_popescu: half ever-so-slightly butcher than the other half.
asciilifeform: well evidently not yet enough by their lights, if order is 'Moar Soy'
mircea_popescu has not yet encountered chinese person he didn't feel he could snap in half and eat in one sitting.
asciilifeform: these, supposedly, exist, but ~only in usa, fed on red meat..
mircea_popescu: i guess they must.
asciilifeform: iirc mats is one
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform oh were you asking who pays the rents ?
mircea_popescu: working class argentines, principally, who live about 6-8 to a 500sqft apt.
mircea_popescu: these can be workers hoping to make it in the great urban village with its supposed "vida de noche" etc. they were defrauded.
mircea_popescu: these can also be students hoping to acquire the official letters patent and become middle class
mircea_popescu: they were also defrauded.
mircea_popescu: the occasionally buyer of local cunt. these are oscillating between very amused and utterly infuriated.
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's funny, you know, "why should i dump everything and worship the gringo ?" "because his women live two to the apartment rather than eight."
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: aye, i could do something like that.
mircea_popescu: anyway, how's things states-side ? everyone bracing down for the inevitable bombing campaigns of the russian-iranian coallition joint "peacekeeping" missions once the democratically elected president is deposed by a military junta led by an ex-wife of an ex-president ?
asciilifeform: lol if only
ben_vulpes: we're all moving to bali
asciilifeform: in reality - death by boredom.
mircea_popescu: bali might not fit all of ye
asciilifeform: mali - will fit.
mircea_popescu: that yes
asciilifeform: already fitted.
ben_vulpes: it's a very small contingent.
mircea_popescu: anyway, cnn trading places with al-jazeera to report supportively about wedding ceremonies "accidentally" bombed in santa barbara by a "stray" russian rocket would be something i'd even turn a tv set on for.
asciilifeform: check back in 20y
mircea_popescu: i dunno, things move fast in the reddit era.
asciilifeform: only imaginary, massless particles.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the best part about that package is that it actually sends (and delivers!) emails from arbitrary email address. i've been sending as without complaint, gmail inboxes, the works.
ben_vulpes: really don't want to install mongo.
mircea_popescu: cool factor > 9k
asciilifeform: ty mats -- where were these from
mircea_popescu: you mean you don't have mongo installed ?!
ben_vulpes: i have been trying to avoid importing the whole internet
mircea_popescu: wtf where is the ben vulpes you know and what did you do to him
mircea_popescu: we know*
trinque grows suspicious
ben_vulpes: listen just because people pay me to root around in cow pussy all day doesn't mean i do it in my free time
ben_vulpes: i actually prefer humans
mircea_popescu: in a shocking development
mats: first is osx 10.11.6, second is opensuse 42.1
ben_vulpes: no it's pretty funny, take a break from inseminating cows and mircea_popescu goes all "oh hey if you have a minute"
ben_vulpes: "dis heifer"
mircea_popescu: dats uddars!
ben_vulpes: trinque: what do you do for emailz?
mircea_popescu: ~anything, i hear.
mats: is there a particular os you are trying to test?
trinque: ben_vulpes: in what regard?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: hyu
asciilifeform: mats: no, or i would test it with own hands.
asciilifeform: mats: just survey.
mircea_popescu: mats coverage is good ; and these we didn't have.
ben_vulpes: trinque: smtp i think
trinque: postfix
ben_vulpes: guess i'm learning how email works this weekend
mircea_popescu: email doesn't work. next question.
trinque: lel!
ben_vulpes: inb4 'poorly'
ben_vulpes: fuck!
mircea_popescu: too slow, mongoboy!
ben_vulpes: mongoman to you
mircea_popescu: mongosir
ben_vulpes: mongomanous
ben_vulpes: living in mongnominy
mats: it took a couple hours for both of these to run
asciilifeform: mongoose..?
mircea_popescu: verrrry sorrry to tell you sir here at trilema haus we all halal. no mongo at all!
mats: meanwhile a debian and ubuntu machine is still cooking after 3 days
ben_vulpes: my gentoo shitball has only cooked up 1.1M so far
ben_vulpes: so i dunno, you'll get it in another month?
asciilifeform: great, incidentally, pill against testability, this
mircea_popescu: i like linux because it is more better cryptosecurelly.
asciilifeform: laughably piddling bitrate
ben_vulpes: fucking gross node.js and mongo and redis
asciilifeform: go & try & get 1MB from /dev/random.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i thought you two'd be buttbuddies when i ran into him. i'm genuinely surprised you don't already know each other.
asciilifeform: the king and the donkey might die first.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: hurtful
mircea_popescu: well look on the bright side : now that you stepped away from it we can finally joke about it.
ben_vulpes: i was never averse to joking about it before...
mircea_popescu: not the same!
phf: it was good timing switching to hand curated hosts file, because i've been informed whole of the internet is down or something
pete_dushenski: << this is seriously intriguing framing. can't wait for trilema on the subj.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-21 00:47 mircea_popescu: anyway, if mining is a bug, then the philosopher king is a backdoor.
pete_dushenski: << you're the semen-covered winrar
a111: Logged on 2016-10-20 04:35 ben_vulpes: back up to 84 pete_dushenski
mircea_popescu: what, this is not directly obvious ?
pete_dushenski: even the obvious benefits from fleshed out blogs. see credit cards.
mircea_popescu: mebbe, but i dun see this one coming. just look at history of previous russian empire ; first they had lenin, then they had stalin, then they had that idiot what's his name.
asciilifeform: << for expert entomologists strictly.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: the one with the mercedes. aha. or the one with the guitar bridge. either way.
pete_dushenski: << i thought 'cow pussy' was euphamism at first, likely for some kinda corvette-powered webdev. now not so sure. next bv will be writing manifesto from bulbless cabin a la kaczynski.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-21 19:25 ben_vulpes: listen just because people pay me to root around in cow pussy all day doesn't mean i do it in my free time
pete_dushenski: since we're doing entemology, this keeper's from the 'other' bitcoin news site :
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: are you a farm hand now or aren't you ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform basically a textbook example of . anything more ?
a111: Logged on 2016-05-01 17:40 mircea_popescu: anyway, to bridge this discussion with the kaiser wilhelm "disappeared" daily telegraph interview discussed last week :
mircea_popescu: other than yet another example of how utterly ridiculous yarvin looks
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: mnope.
mircea_popescu: << "verifying identity", the fiat way.
asciilifeform: i thought this were a nigerian thing
pete_dushenski: those are some giant mitts
mircea_popescu: guy has transformed into an almost perfect jewish caricature, it's uncanny.
mircea_popescu: they're gonna start posting his outline in 4chan
pete_dushenski: wasn't 8chan the kkk one ?
mircea_popescu: i thought they all were.
pete_dushenski: quite possibly
asciilifeform: was good caricature in '08
asciilifeform: (watched the film ?)
mircea_popescu: which film ?
asciilifeform: mr mold 'debating' some 'professor'.
asciilifeform: was terrible, nervous ticks, whole shebang
pete_dushenski: << lel. tho is pretty good too.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-21 19:23 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the best part about that package is that it actually sends (and delivers!) emails from arbitrary email address. i've been sending as without complaint, gmail inboxes, the works.
mircea_popescu can't be arsed, but seriously, how hard is at least making an effort to appear human!
asciilifeform: dunno, possibly this was even ~with~ effort.
asciilifeform: picture - without.
phf: he probably realized his position is not going to earn him any favours with the aparatchiks, so he's trying to morph himself into chomsky "what exactly ~is~ racism, khmmm mmm, seeee"
mircea_popescu: i'm starting to understand why the various philipinos were so jizzed up over those videos of mine they fished up. "oh, ALL these dorks look like dorks so we can just pretend this guy does too!"
asciilifeform: looking ridiculous is not imho a mortal sin, i also cannot claim to be great orator, or photomodel. but i never try to do these things, do not go around plastering self-portraits, or dance on stage.
mircea_popescu: phf may be above his paygrade.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's a difference between "not great orator&photomodel" and uncanny fucking valley, however.
asciilifeform: phf: afaik d00d is one of thiel's court clowns, since '11 or so, and free to do mostly whatever he wants so long as it remains reasonably quiet.
asciilifeform: yudkowsky-style charity-laundry.
mircea_popescu: anyway, leaving appearance aside, his position is shockingly idiotic. on one hand he gives away the stuff that matters (yes, for god damn sure most of human population, of either sex, gender, race, ethnicity, whatever belongs in bondage. doh) in exchange for not exactly clearly what the fuck, not like rando progre attention whore is now going to be best pals with him and blow him.
mircea_popescu: "oh, yarvin said he doesn't think blacks are born slaves ?!?! OMG WHERE DOES HE LIVE I WANNA DO A LOAD OF HIS LAUNDRY!!!"
asciilifeform: in exchange, probably, for 'reasonably quiet'
mircea_popescu: stupid deal.
mircea_popescu: who wants to trade the undefined upside for a fixed payment ? fuck that, inverse insurance, really ?
phf: asciilifeform: well, like mircea_popescu said above it's not about thiel, it's about whether or not he gets to hang out with rando progre attention whores. of course it doesn't work that way and i don't know why he would want to, but i wouldn't be surprised if in his mind it does. my impression is that he's visibly trying to morph from stormfront "must read litrecha" section to a kind of "let's discuss human nature, surely we all agree"
phf: intelligentsia
asciilifeform: probably
mircea_popescu: but he doesn't have either the intellectual werewithal nor the knowledge base.
mircea_popescu: it's the worst possible move.
mircea_popescu: then again i guess humanity is principally defined by a propensity to make the worst possible move.
mircea_popescu: hence the whole "nobody could have predicted" shtick.
asciilifeform: btw stormfront on shortwave was pretty great.
mircea_popescu: last time i listened to radio i was like 15.
asciilifeform: (the talker died some years ago)
asciilifeform: << entirely unrelated, and lulzy, and i do dare suspect that they read the l0gz
asciilifeform: ^ arbitrary crud over satellite, but the receiver is the familiar rtl-sdr, that everyone already has.
mircea_popescu: why do you think read logs ?
asciilifeform: iirc we suggested this very method, at one time.
mircea_popescu: not terribly counterintuitive is it ?
phf: i figured out how is doing their archiving by the way, i'm taking a stab at implementing it
mircea_popescu: prompted by all this discussion, i find "More recently, Land has been a primary theorist and the namer of the Dark Enlightenment, a neoreactionary movement that opposes egalitarianism.[5] The Dark Enlightenment supplies philosophical underpinnings to the alt-right.[6]"
mircea_popescu: i had no idea ? we're not the only anti-egalitarians out there ?
mircea_popescu: guy's blog is even active, apparently.
mircea_popescu: !#s
a111: 12 results for "",
mircea_popescu: bejaysus.
asciilifeform: loads of these.
asciilifeform: for years now.
asciilifeform: oooold noose.
mircea_popescu: o wait, we were actually linked at some point ?
mircea_popescu: did anyone ever invite the fellow over ?
pete_dushenski: << 'new yorker' soils pants in face of trump, tmsr, other t-words. blames nazis, obv. bit of a snore really.
mircea_popescu would muchly appreciate a crash course in dark enligthement from the very horse's mouth.
asciilifeform: iirc we tried to get the horse here
pete_dushenski: << wherein pete is quoted on xenosystems
mircea_popescu: a we did ?
pete_dushenski: a 'dark enlightenment' character by the name of 'alrenous' also found his way to the contravex comments for a while. bought a year-and-a-half ago now. decent enough to carry a convo but hardly limitless depth there.
mircea_popescu: phf that's pretty major. how does he do it then ?
pete_dushenski: s/bought/bout. lol.
phf: they are using Qt webkit integration, either through a hacked up version of phantomjs, or something handwritten. there's enough hooks in qt, that you can figure out what was loaded, where it got stored in local cache and where it's being used.
phf: phantomjs out of the box is almost there, except it doesn't give you locations to where page dependencies were stored in local cache. but the approach ensures that anything that can be rendered using a modern browser can also be archived
mircea_popescu: "Victorious third world struggles, so long as they have been successfully localized, do not lead to realistic post-capitalist achievements, and certainly not to post-patriarchal ones, since the conversation of the form of the nation state is itself enough to guarantee the reinsertion of a society into the system of inhibited synthesis. For as long as the dynamic of guerrilla war just leads to new men at the top . . . History
mircea_popescu: will continue to look bleak. For it is only when the pervasive historical bond between masculinity and war is broken by effective feminist violence that it will become possible to envisage the uprooting of the patriarchal endogamies that orchestrate the contemporary world order . . . But the only conceivable end of Kantianism is the end of modernity, and to reach this must foster new Amazons in our midst"
mircea_popescu: and suddenly /me is very disinterested in nick land's ideas.
ben_vulpes: clever little design
mircea_popescu: and it's not expropriation because reasons.
mircea_popescu: of the us courtly sort.
ben_vulpes: the kind where they take a thing but can't use it
ben_vulpes: stealth boat? really?
asciilifeform: eh it's old hat in the 'wetlands' racket
asciilifeform: as described by uncle al
asciilifeform: 'this land is yours but if you build anything - jail'
BingoBoingo: !~bcstats
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Current Blocks: 435318 | Current Difficulty: 2.5852274840451544E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 435455 | Next Difficulty In: 137 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 21 hours, 4 minutes, and 36 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
phf: i thought dark enlightenment completely discredited itself, by trying to julius evola while neckbeard
phf: i was certain we had a thread..
pete_dushenski: !#s cathedral
a111: 33 results for "cathedral",
shinohai: <<< PLZ give out btc bac kthanx
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: We may have invitit a few of them, but they seem to spring up like weeds
ben_vulpes: oh good
BingoBoingo: niggers.txt
pete_dushenski off to a retreat for teh weekend. no cell reception. no net connex.
BingoBoingo: But pete_dushenski will then miss the fanfic while it is fresh!
shinohai: <<< damned expensive beer at $125 per 12 pack
shinohai: !~calc 90000 / 719
jhvh1: shinohai: 90000 / 719 = 125.17385257301808
mircea_popescu: !#s julius evola
asciilifeform: !#s evola
mircea_popescu: all i see is a bunch of outsiders trying to impress with their reading.
asciilifeform: dunno that we have any evola fans present.
phf: ag3nt_zer0 was one
mircea_popescu: shinohai ok that bitfinex stuff is hysterical.
mircea_popescu recalls the not so distant days a coupla years ago when these imbeciles were masquerading as bidnismen with suits and secretaries and who is mp./
asciilifeform: wait, they stopped?!
shinohai: I guess the token scheme isn't working as planned.
shinohai: I should have qntra'd that story just for the title "Bitfinex Begs Burgler for Bitcoins Back"
mircea_popescu: possibly not to late still
mircea_popescu: anyone can explain how the cryptoart "purveroys of fine art papeer wallets" can afford to blow what looks like a >10k budget on google advertising ?
mircea_popescu: this is the first time i hear of non-starving yet un-famous graphical artists doing a lot of quality work for no upfront fee of their own, anarcho-syndicalist volition.
mircea_popescu: it's fucking absurd.
mircea_popescu: "Donald Trump gained on Hillary Clinton among American voters this week, cutting her lead nearly in half despite a string of women accusing him of unwanted sexual advances and the furor over his disputed claims that the election process is rigged, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Friday."
mircea_popescu: aka deese putins dun understand how teh our democracy works!
asciilifeform: eh they print these to revv up turnout for the kpussa.
asciilifeform: 'oh noez we might luuus'
mircea_popescu: teh libertards are basically playing twister in the "situation room"
mircea_popescu: 63% think he raped someone at some point ; 62% want him to be president. presumably the missing 1% doesn't like the dearth of pics ?
asciilifeform: << related lultron from same rag
asciilifeform: 'he worries that the lack of trust is dangerous. It is one thing to not trust government, but quite another to doubt the election process. “Then the entire premise of democracy comes into question,” she said.'
asciilifeform: oh noez, DOUBT!?!!!!!
mircea_popescu: i'm telling you, russian-iranian peacekeeping coalition
mircea_popescu: coming to a walmart near you this winter.
asciilifeform: zimbabwean-malian coalition.
asciilifeform: this is rather like trying to guess which fungus will eat an aids sufferer.
asciilifeform: could be any fungus, but fungi dun eat healthy folk.
mircea_popescu: "powerful rich important people" leat 2010 are such a fucking joke.
asciilifeform: who the fuck is that in the middle, cardinal richelieu ?
asciilifeform: or... a _trans++fagl ??
mircea_popescu: new york cardinal dolan
mircea_popescu: a very jolly fellow irl, no idea why he looks so forced-laughing there.
shinohai: !~later tell BingoBoingo plox to use title "Bitfinex Begs Burgler for Bitcoins Back" if published thx
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: (the pic is from the al smith diner, yest. this is a derpy thing trying to get the candidates to roast each other for catholic charities. ny libertard "elites" are very excited today about the fact that trump walked in not giving the slightest shit about their mores, and eschewed what in manhattan passes for "humour", aka
shinohai: So it appears the Russian Foreign Affairs Website was sorta hacked by the jester.
mircea_popescu: it's fucking incredible just how bad trump's speech writer was, by the way. dude's a reality tv star, like that jenner chick or whatever, you'd expect he'd come prepared to kill it.
mircea_popescu: << clinton oligarch branson testifies as to which hand feeds him.
mircea_popescu: omyfucking god he wrote it on his own.
mircea_popescu: so 70yo dude who's always, though thick and thin and half a dozen bankruptcies, ever since he was a wee tyke and his dad had to cosign his deals, aspired to be part of the you know, new york moneyed elite finally goes to the al smith diner. and gets to seat on the dais. and you know, he prepares for this. his speech, his own speech.
mircea_popescu: and it's miserable.
mircea_popescu: thursday's the night trump became a tragic figure.
shinohai plays tiny violin for Trump
mircea_popescu: mindblowing.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: the tag is blockquote, not block
deedbot: << Qntra - Buggered Bitfinex Begs Burgler For Bitcoins Back
deedbot: << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 99319465194670868101345891624117322377222977433808483462332438176091472945093 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <>;
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