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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21938 @ 0.0007065 = 15.4992 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8228 @ 0.00070367 = 5.7898 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: << remind me briefly what exactly is is that makes you think you belong here.
assbot: Logged on 25-08-2015 23:55:51; *: Adlai seconds until, byte-for-byte, human commentary outweighs assbot spammentary
mircea_popescu: i get it, you leech and wish to complain about how the content you leech is packaged. this makes sense in your alt-universe ?
mircea_popescu: fucking "votes", like that's how it works now.
mircea_popescu: << why does the woman get a bra! same boobs...
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The pretense. As the Obeast loses distinctive sex characteristics it overcompensates in adopting cultural signifiers.
mircea_popescu: now that's a point
assbot: Logged on 26-08-2015 00:34:51; trinque: BingoBoingo: sounds a bit like this news I'm reading of the "market rally" "disintegrating".
mircea_popescu: so why'd they shoot the toddler BingoBoingo ? was it the "officer felt his life endangered" or was it "toddler didn't obey comamnds"
mircea_popescu: heck, give fathers back the power to shoot toddlers that don't obey commands, see the "demographics problems" end overnight.
asciilifeform: << the lulzy part is that, iirc, the man writes tradebots himself!
assbot: Logged on 26-08-2015 04:39:34; mircea_popescu: << remind me briefly what exactly is is that makes you think you belong here.
assbot: Logged on 26-08-2015 05:20:15; mircea_popescu: heck, give fathers back the power to shoot toddlers that don't obey commands, see the "demographics problems" end overnight.
assbot: Logged on 16-02-2014 22:04:18; asciilifeform: they pass an old man who says, 'don't drown this fellow. i'll feed him dumplings, he won't have to do any work but to dip them'
mircea_popescu: which is fine, whosoever can do whatever the fuck they do, but this voting braindamage...
asciilifeform: wai wut?!
mircea_popescu: in other news, this building is easily 200 years old, the pipes are certainly solid steel, and they got the curse
mircea_popescu: (for they unfamiliar : old pipes in old buildings have, like any other rigid formation, resonancy frequencies.
asciilifeform: waterhammer, they call it here.
mircea_popescu: and one unlucky repair, even one just-such-weight faucet can make the whole thing an organ)
asciilifeform: in usa this is pestilential in old flats and there is a - partial - fix
asciilifeform: you can get dampeners.
asciilifeform: (piston of known tension in a cylindrical vessel, attaches to a pipehead)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, this isn';t that. you turn on the water, and five minutes later the whole thing bellows. no banging.
asciilifeform: who said plumbers don't need to stay awake in diff. eq. !
mircea_popescu: and it goes on after you turn it off, for like 5 minutes
mircea_popescu: it actually ends up resonant
asciilifeform: water, rather than air hammer. not 100% laminar flow!
asciilifeform has vague memories of this as a boy
mircea_popescu: it's about, if i had to guess, 20khz. and prolly was there before but w/e, 8khz or somerthing
asciilifeform: if this were my flat i'd hook up antiphase speaker to the pipe
asciilifeform: For Science.
mircea_popescu: lol i don't give that much of a shit. but i also wouldn't want to own.
mircea_popescu: the many loltraps of real estate ownership, or why you can't really own "as an individual"
asciilifeform: or as with the toddler example,
asciilifeform: don't own anything you couldn't or wouldn't demolish and rebuild correctly.
asciilifeform: (questionable whether word 'own' is even applicable)
mircea_popescu: deedbot- feeds
mircea_popescu: hm. how did that thing work
asciilifeform: i rent my bldg. and wouldn't like to have it any other way. unless were so loaded that i could throw it away like a toothbrush if it gets tiresome.
mircea_popescu: owning real estate is its own economic enterprise.
asciilifeform: do it if +ev !
asciilifeform: otherwise why.
mircea_popescu: and hiding the cost of real estate from yourself (i don't rent, i own!) is just bad business
mircea_popescu: "oh, i couldnb't afford to live here if i had to rent"
mircea_popescu: well then guess what ?
asciilifeform: hiding from self is generally bad mojo.
asciilifeform just got back from the house of a phriend who, i shit thee not, filled two notebooks with one derivation, pen and paper, because ~none of the computeralgebrasystems he could find were able to swallow it~
asciilifeform: without upchucking
asciilifeform: srsly the whole computer thing never quite happened.
mircea_popescu: !up Casper-
mircea_popescu: nah im not surprised. derivation notation is fucking pn
mircea_popescu lived with the exact same problem, even in the old days of derive.exe
asciilifeform: derive.exe !!!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14150 @ 0.00070367 = 9.9569 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: i just set it up on my hp200lx a few days ago.
asciilifeform: glorious, it is.
mircea_popescu: a sort of its very own ida.
mircea_popescu: but EVEN IT!
asciilifeform: didja know that it is in mulisp !
asciilifeform: and ported to the 'texas instruments 89' calculator ?
asciilifeform: (runs silently, internally)
mircea_popescu: that i never gas'd about.
asciilifeform: little pocket calculator.
asciilifeform: (m68k cpu)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33045 @ 0.00070198 = 23.1969 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: anyway. the notion that you can get a computer to "do your derivation" is exactly like the notion that you can get a computer to "do your thing"
mircea_popescu: in... principle.
asciilifeform: should at least cooperate, as excavator in digging a pit
asciilifeform: ought to beat shovel
mircea_popescu: if you're willing to set it up.
asciilifeform: naturally.
asciilifeform: back to 'derive' - there are so, so few proggies that are so ~pants-creamingly~ good at what they do,
asciilifeform: that one remembers fondly, a decade or two later.
mircea_popescu: it actually was so good the baby brother of a friend mostly wanted to "play derive" when he visited.
asciilifeform: i still 'play derive.'
asciilifeform: because i, elementarily, motherfuckingly, ~can~
mircea_popescu is grinning by himself like an idiot lol.
mircea_popescu: but yeah, i was explaining to the 5yo plane composition and shit.
mircea_popescu: he made a bunch of 3d sines he did.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00070716 = 5.728 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: anyway. at least in romania's 90s, the life of a young theoretical physicist was ~90% derive and the rest chicken scribblings of the kind you mention.
mircea_popescu: "what language is this ?!"
asciilifeform: >>> <<< l337 w4r3z !!!
mircea_popescu: unsigned i take it.
asciilifeform: just for mircea_popescu.
mircea_popescu: no but see what i mean ?
mircea_popescu: pre bitcoin nobody had any fucking idea what computing even is supposed to be.
mircea_popescu: goes to if you care.
asciilifeform: prefix www
asciilifeform: but what matter. it ought to resolve, and leech
asciilifeform: this copy is circa 1990 iirc.
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asciilifeform: this ain't simtel
asciilifeform: not indexed.
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asciilifeform: ^ most of'em
mircea_popescu: "a buyer who paid 146,500 pounds formerly known as sterling"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo was this because "no longer silver" or because "no longer a consideration", as in "sterling promise" ?
Casper-: Hey, i've read some of your stuff (qntra, contravex, dilema). is there a list of guys who's opinion you respect? e.g. more blogs/twitter
asciilifeform: dilema ?!
assbot: mircea_popescu WoT Overview - Btc Alpha ... ( )
Casper-: trilema, haha
mircea_popescu: also i rarely write on qntra and pete_dushenski does contravex
mircea_popescu: tho i suspect he might well be flattered.
Casper-: e.g. do u like Eric Vorhees?
mircea_popescu: got a specific text in mind ?
Casper-: no, nothing specific, i'm just trying to figure out who like to read that's all, i've liked Eric
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo << incidentally the man is right. social media (perhaps pioneered by twitter, when they were trying to get google to spread the fake money by paying for access) have been using something very much akin to the "unheard of" trilema paid content scheme.
assbot: Twitter Forbids Monitoring Politicians' Deleted Tweets | Qntra ... ( )
mircea_popescu: except you get a few thousand meaningless pages per day or something. but those are mere parameters. the idea is the same.
asciilifeform: botnet folks gotta eat somehow!
asciilifeform: not that many practical applications for maxint ip
mircea_popescu: ironically this isn't either. who gives a shit what derps say on twitter.
mircea_popescu: this is the deep dark secret they don't want to face. the "effaceable" trend on social media is just that - another expression of the fundamental truth that social media does not matter.
mircea_popescu: << clearly community college's keeping up with the times.
assbot: Logged on 26-08-2015 02:31:23; asciilifeform: and the required reading dir is full of 'whitepapers' concerning 1990s-style centralized shitpal-esque 'coins'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for reference, this is the same mega-citadeloflearning where elaine shi and andrew miller ply their trade
mircea_popescu: obviously.
asciilifeform: clitadel.
mircea_popescu: because you'd have to be pretty high to imagine THAT is how eating cunt works.
assbot: Bitcoin and the Separation of Money and State - Money and State ... ( )
mircea_popescu: "what, with the relevant bits safely pushed away, the pudendal shield pressing against the nose. LOGIC!"
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asciilifeform: srsly, that thumbdrive shit blew me away, it's like you were walking in a medical school campus and found a disk full of guides to bloodletting
asciilifeform: dated in the past year
mircea_popescu: pushing the point a little, neh ? i mean what, even the first basic qualification thing for bitcoin is not a week old.
mircea_popescu: teh ppl dunno yet!
asciilifeform: understand, these weren't even scamcoinz
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94300 @ 0.00070964 = 66.9191 BTC [+] {5}
asciilifeform: but central-ledger thingies
mircea_popescu: tell you what, plenty of guides on bloodletting in 1795
assbot: Logged on 26-08-2015 03:20:23; mod6: low was 0.00014430 on mar. 23rd according to btcalpha
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron hey, how do you feed your twitter ? is it by hand or some sort of remarkably clever script ?
mircea_popescu: cazalla_ << you got any fucking idea why the sudden change in baseline ?
assbot: Traffic and Demographic Statistics by Quantcast ... ( )
mircea_popescu: are these dudes just lying / making up random numbers / multipliers or wtf.
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mircea_popescu: in the ever-amusing tor saga,
assbot: pastebin - Miscellany - post number 3129249 ... ( )
mircea_popescu: "Support is building for changing part of bitcoin's design, after two high-profile developers introduced an alternate version of the virtual currency aimed at speeding up transactions and future-proofing the digital money.
mircea_popescu: Some of bitcoin's biggest backers, including BitPay,, Circle and, wrote a letter this week in support of the existing version of bitcoin—but only if it adopts some of the central ideas proposed by the renegade developers, Gavin Andresen and Mike Hearn."
mircea_popescu: ^ Olga Kharif logic.
mircea_popescu: << for the "nobody could havew predicted" pile.
assbot: The politics of Bitcoin on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( )
cazalla: mircea_popescu, qntra been discussed a bit on twitter lately thanks to BingoBoingo's articles
cazalla: and fuck millennials and their inability to look before they merge lanes, last thing i fkn needed was a car smash
cazalla: her insurance will cover it but still, they don't cover my time
cazalla: mircea_popescu, ya might have to scroll for the jon matonis and peter todd qntra mentions
assbot: - Recherche sur Twitter ... ( )
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assbot: Cumshot Editor Pro - Cumshoteditor ... ( )
cazalla: punkman, what's a bet it is used predominantly with pics sourced from facebook friends
mircea_popescu: lolright
punkman: cazalla: even says so in copy
punkman: "Let me tell you – this 37 bucks editor has literally saved me more than 5.000 bucks in my estimates, by just satisfying my needs without the strong need to pamper the next gold digging whore."
mircea_popescu: who the fuck is into sex for the ... what, the view of after-sex outside ejaculation ?!
mircea_popescu: i wonder if there actually exists the weirdo out there who spends 9 month intervals on "projects" which consist of amassing pics of random neighbour, then photoshopping wild orgy, then photoshopping her fictitious pregnancy resulting from there, then photoshopping her delivery and so on.
cazalla: sounds like you've given that much thought
cazalla: punkman, lol @ the testimonials "Dude.. this is.. this is… fucking awesome. lol I have never thought I’d actually pay money for software but I couldn’t resist cumming on all my facebook friends pics.. Works like a charm and is actually the best masturbation material ~_~"
cazalla: anyway, that sorta thing is a popular request thread on 4chan from time to time
mircea_popescu: cazalla actually it's the first time it occured to me
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shinohai: I shall forever keep this in pr0n bots memory:
assbot: Video upload (QlD7) - vidme ... ( )
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cazalla: <<< easier to just kill the dogs than plead and beg someone to do something about their barking dog at 3am
assbot: Logged on 26-08-2015 00:26:32; BingoBoingo: “This is a mess,” said Jana Chamblee, who lives with her husband, Don, and their three children. “This is the biggest mess I’ve had in my life.” ... Chamblee and others on the block point to a house behind them, where Maritha Hunter-Butler has lived since May 9. She moved in with her three sons, a female partner and their four dogs. The neighbors say the dogs bark at all hours of the night, visitors con
cazalla: <<< lol maybe related to the ditz that merged into me today
assbot: Logged on 26-08-2015 01:54:49; mats: he was high and literally said, "i'm not going to crash the car, man" five seconds before he went off the road
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assbot: Detroit police seek men who robbed couples, raped the women ... ( )
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assbot: iq 190 versus japanese police - mtgox update (in japanese) : Bitcoin ... ( )
fluffypony: "of even 1.1 billion yen from the mount Gokkusu company funds have been lending to affiliated companies"
fluffypony: Mount Gokkusu
fluffypony: awesome
fluffypony: and Marc Karupuresu
fluffypony: Marc Karupuresu-san, glorious leader of famous industry Mount Gokkusu
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assbot: Logged on 26-08-2015 06:18:48; mircea_popescu: danielpbarron hey, how do you feed your twitter ? is it by hand or some sort of remarkably clever script ?
funkenstein_: "Needless to say, this dumping of sensitive personal and financial information is bound to have catastrophic effects on the lives of the website's users," according to a lawsuit filed Friday on behalf of an anonymous Los Angeles man who created an account with Ashley Madison in March 2012.
funkenstein_: Is it really needless to say that people are noncommunicative fuckwits, and even if so, does that mean they should be awarded damages?
punkman: funkenstein_: the people that paid a fee to get their account deleted have every right to sue
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3230 @ 0.0007065 = 2.282 BTC [-] {2}
funkenstein_: punkman, ok you have a point there. but hardly "bound to have catastrophic effects"
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BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> so why'd they shoot the toddler BingoBoingo ? was it the "officer felt his life endangered" or was it "toddler didn't obey comamnds" << WHo shot toddler presented as a mystery so far
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3249 @ 0.00070042 = 2.2757 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo was this because "no longer silver" or because "no longer a consideration", as in "sterling promise" ? << No longer silver nor a pound in weight
mats: << i'm in favor of raising threshold, to 10 or 100 BTC
assbot: Logged on 25-05-2015 20:19:42; BingoBoingo: <kakobrekla> as stated, there is enough interest with a small rebellion on top - so they stay << Maybe raise the limit? Perhaps 1BTC is nao too small and spammy, but 100 BTC is ok.
punkman: traders could vote for tradeblock size by appending a number of satoshis in their mpex trades!
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> are these dudes just lying / making up random numbers / multipliers or wtf. << Lots of social media creatures got very excited about the certainty we were using to dismiss XTCoin
BingoBoingo: But the actual Quantcast numbers could very well be invented
mats: $ grep -c '[MPEX][S.MPOE]' \#bitcoin-assets.txt
mats: 26993
mats: $ wc -l \#bitcoin-assets.txt
mats: 570689 #bitcoin-assets.txt
mats: goes back a year and some change.
asciilifeform: meanwhile...
assbot: Welcome | Phuctor ... ( )
asciilifeform: gcd==6635724473865; Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. <>
assbot: Welcome | Phuctor ... ( )
asciilifeform: gcd==176093659177
asciilifeform: Charly Avital (1.0.7) <>; Charly Avital (1.0.7) <>; Charly Avital (1.0.7) <>;
asciilifeform: and, more interestingly,
asciilifeform: gcd==115689563593438224355064235381090056755163859480449174433830003975037467950966309481394007709292222401673721911305757070903002186880134248491556817065874097861521564574240083326343937488908899708599174992366919884328839153192482261044065875685676447097938344009705169081015113163350134173402351902967563106577
asciilifeform: ^ somebody apparently insisted on testing whether we actually gcd or merely trialdivide by smallints ?
asciilifeform: the first two are classic 32-bit-mirror pattern.
mats: phuctor only a week behind now huh
mats: nice.
asciilifeform: mats: i've been feeding it in ~week batches.
asciilifeform: btw, even though phuctor doesn't know it yet,
asciilifeform: 1892723568087551493618009926760646349750467909459205522740818964105167347100605148404547621231828137233618985557651353972652544834696902490261435508019184913443852889174299036165741658177022592368459736005914185040826479573661843378682873100657805929320966265028821081871933334201224905640147632447988816821204762280887813873227995514589266043350766730094335329902939423219963864086671420764362056760171241392986612229786936976293
asciilifeform: 8782865030610011580585795814396421806357354395965320159640864707390392014207044836043353715693836994998437234838731485153184127003171175279749428713283864650143760704836263568001942385593 == 16360365700220383083992880523651957772484327905585940654336777478534165450848968948511765861171837485450883856464038603399315640317512366397354934510310019469606107654802941687468389058162309313111941860583228386078296432650103403156222831
asciilifeform: 5199932231505284351687168764809408601196984251559017124370646263943209 * 115689563593438224355064235381090056755163859480449174433830003975037467950966309481394007709292222401673721911305757070903002186880134248491556817065874097861521564574240083326343937488908899708599174992366919884328839153192482261044065875685676447097938344009705169081015113163350134173402351902967563106577.
asciilifeform waves hello to 'researcherz doing research'
assbot: Search results for '0xe4d2a44d1d8a78cc' ... ( )
assbot: Neuropsychiatry Section ... ( )
asciilifeform: ^ apparently specialist in reproductive biology
assbot: GnuPG - Profile of Charly Avital ... ( )
asciilifeform: '(GnuPG/MacGPG2) 2.0.20 - gpg (GnuPG) 1.4.15 TB 24.0.1 Enigmail version 1.6 (20131006-1849)'
asciilifeform: finally.
asciilifeform: but i still see no reason to think that the faux key was uploaded from his own system. or that this took place with any of the others.
asciilifeform: who wants to write to mr avital...?
assbot: Paxos Made Moderately Complex ... ( )
mats: ;;calc 26993/570689
gribble: 0.0472989666876
mats: ~5% 'pure noise'
mircea_popescu: lol alfie.
mircea_popescu: mount gokksu is the official new name of the generic bitcoin scam with delusions of grandeur.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin-mount-gokksu being what mount hearnu & gokksu a be doing.
mircea_popescu: aka bitcoin-mg
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron oh ok. was gonna want to see that perl wonder otherwise :D
mircea_popescu: <funkenstein_> Is it really needless to say that people are noncommunicative fuckwits, and even if so, does that mean they should be awarded damages? << i hope the trial is directed at THE LYING FRAUDULENT SCUMBAGS that ran the site.
mircea_popescu: <punkman> traders could vote for tradeblock size by appending a number of satoshis in their mpex trades! << yeah seriously. how about this : voice costs about the same.
mircea_popescu: i wanna see all these people who are too busy to read a line worth two hundred bux prove it.
mircea_popescu: <mats> $ grep -c '[MPEX][S.MPOE]' \#bitcoin-assets.txt << not like it's SO HARD to kill a line so marked. which is why they have the motherfucking tags.
mircea_popescu: but apparently we suffer from "xt" syndrome and don';t even know it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform our 'alice'. << created 27 aug last year no less.
mircea_popescu: punkman " Before you start, make sure you are familiar with the terms in the word cloud above." motherfucker. being "familiar" is exactly what these poorly brought up children do, and the word for it is impudence.
mircea_popescu: (for the record - lest you be "familiar" with the term from the broken contemporary dictionaries - impudence does not mean "being disrespectful of another person". it has nothing to do with others. impudence is grossly manifest pretense to unwarranted importance. and it's been the distinguishing mark of young adults in agrarian societies since forever.)
ben_vulpes: << reducing the tyke to starvation wages at 18 is the pressed shitboard stand in
assbot: Logged on 26-08-2015 05:20:15; mircea_popescu: heck, give fathers back the power to shoot toddlers that don't obey commands, see the "demographics problems" end overnight.
mircea_popescu: what starvation wages.
ben_vulpes: "the wife'd never let you"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3990 @ 0.00070872 = 2.8278 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: so basically the vp is "let's make one of these things that'll never be able to stand on its own" "i'd rather build a perpetual money flame"
mircea_popescu: or a commemorative melted cheese fountain.
assbot: Logged on 26-08-2015 05:34:47; asciilifeform: without upchucking
assbot: Clasp: Common Lisp using LLVM and C++ for Molecular Metaprogramming - YouTube ... ( )
ben_vulpes: guy is rewriting class and pointer locations in memory on the fly
ben_vulpes: among other gems
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: why would i want to see this ?!
ben_vulpes: claims that his lisp works with force fields and constrait systems as first class concepts
ben_vulpes shrugs
asciilifeform: so whence the cpp horrors ?
asciilifeform: if 'his lisp works'
ben_vulpes: fast molecular dynamics tools he didn't care to rewrite himself.
ben_vulpes: etymological interest?
asciilifeform: entomological?
ben_vulpes: entomological
mats: TIL the HTTP referrer header is misspelled 'referer' in the actual standard and subsequently in the implementations
asciilifeform: mats: old nyooz, whole religions have been built on mistranslations and orthographic mistakes
mircea_popescu: << it is my pleasure to report that so far, the herniated minds with the bitcoin-mount gokksu fixation have contributed a total of 533 words and 0.53231949 BTC in actual bets,
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mircea_popescu: putting their per-word value at 0.0001 btc by this simple test.
ben_vulpes: i stopped reading at "so if just one XT node..." the other day.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aren't these the same folks who wouldn't buy the ethereum 'derp' futures?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually ~using~ bitbet, to them, would be a kind of surrender, no ?
mircea_popescu: mats yup. which is how i learned that particular misspelling ;/
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they're the same folks that aren't buying cars and time with the sluts born the same year as themselves, by the same token. so what of it.
asciilifeform: though, you gotta love the very special imbecile who complained about the 'risk' of being paid bet winnings in '1mbcoin'
mircea_popescu: if it's not on the "electronic foodstamp list" in the supermarket, how'd they buy it
mats: 0.5323? whaddabout the other 1.01?
mircea_popescu: the part on yes ?
mircea_popescu: da fuck ?!
mircea_popescu: that's another mindfuck : aside my feed, people actually bet MORE on yes. in spite of there being 100 on yes.
mircea_popescu: mats oh, yeah. im only counting things happening after thew thing hit the reddits.
asciilifeform: speaking of,
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asciilifeform: ~193 pts
asciilifeform: or whatever they're called now.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform honestly, might not be so very imbecile. it wouldn't surprise me if the fork gets improved to remove selected old coinbases once it's in.
mircea_popescu: after all, once it's in, it's in, they can do whatever they want. which is the entire point.
asciilifeform: camel's nose, elementary.
asciilifeform: 'remove t3rr0r1st coinz!!11'
mircea_popescu: hey, they're already derping about how "bitcoin is regulated" and whatnot.
asciilifeform: 'give back stolen btc to the rightful ownerz'
mircea_popescu: i fully expect they fall back to that nonsense once they [somehow comprehend] they got beaten on technical dispute.
mircea_popescu: just like they fell on this once the previous failed and so on
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asciilifeform: they have a bottomless barrel of 'improvements'. if that fails, it'll be 'environmentally-friendly minerless distribution' or some other crock of shit
mircea_popescu: this was the golden bullet, doesn't have a spare silver even.
BingoBoingo: Problem with voting, idiots can vote for things that don't exist yet
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assbot: Logged on 26-08-2015 15:35:27; mircea_popescu: punkman " Before you start, make sure you are familiar with the terms in the word cloud above." motherfucker. being "familiar" is exactly what these poorly brought up children do, and the word for it is impudence.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo imo that wants to mean "we don't want things stuck here forever, but we don't support gavin"
punkman: but hey they have a cool domain and they already got the USG grants
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if cn miners insist on testing the voltage on the electric fence using own cocks, who am i to disagree
mircea_popescu: which is perhaps the only sane position a fiat-backed venture can take.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Of course, but I await the idiot train that assumes it means something else.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform bip100 is not actually specified yet.
mircea_popescu: it can mean "go suck mp's cock in argentina" for all anyone knows.
BingoBoingo: Or it could be a symlink to BIP $maxint: No more BIPs
mircea_popescu: or that.
mircea_popescu: for all its warts, the bip system did have the practical utility of discouraging discussion over a majority of historical harebrained schemes.
mircea_popescu: it's very own sort of soft !v
mircea_popescu: who even knew that for YEARS this was actually enough.
BingoBoingo: Seriously, just enough years for the cartilage of bitcoin to calcify enough to support walking even
mircea_popescu: i guess that's a point
mircea_popescu: biology, eh BingoBoingo ?
BingoBoingo: Seriously
mats: s.mpoe so stable
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trinque: deedbot-: feeds add
trinque: mircea_popescu: currently the thing listens to me only; when I get a chance, I'll grab the code from the deeds module and let L1 control feeds
trinque: meanwhile I can add whatever you'd like
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deedbot-: [Qntra] British 'Cultural' Capital Controls Interfere With Commerce -
deedbot-: [Recently Phuctored RSA Moduli] Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=609 (Blevins <<>>; THIS KEY HAS BEEN REVOKED <PLEASE DO NOT USE>; ) -
deedbot-: [Recently Phuctored RSA Moduli] Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=519691042937 (Andrew Orr <>; ) -
deedbot-: [Recently Phuctored RSA Moduli] Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=4294967297 (Andrew Orr <>; ) -
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trinque: ^ bleh, got stuck. I'm looking into it.
trinque: I've sprinkled logging throughout. If anyone sees him miss an article, give me a shout.
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trinque: ^ found some shitty code related to sqlite3 and gevent interacting poorly, made some changes.
lobbes: !rate trinque 1 deedbot-
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lobbes: !unrate williamdunne
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mircea_popescu: soo how about that virginia shooting.
mircea_popescu: !up anjap12
trinque: the guy says he was bullied!
mircea_popescu: totally justifiable homicide.
mircea_popescu: she wasn't nice to him.
mircea_popescu: it's practically rape.
mircea_popescu: !rate wyrdmantis 1 Good name
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trinque: there seems to be an ever-growing category of americans which can't handle the slightest jostle of their emotional state.
trinque: pollution? death-rattle of a country? I'm not sure.
mircea_popescu: well, they weren't beaten as kids. so how'd they be sane as adults.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> she wasn't nice to him. << Apparently there is a manifesto. He's also pissed about the black church fires and Dylan Storm Roof.
trinque: manifesto, lol
mircea_popescu: trinque i don't see why it has to listen to anyone else.
trinque: and yes, I think it's abundantly clear that being raised in an environment without consequences yields horrible results.
mircea_popescu: without even the possibility of ~
mircea_popescu: !up ascii_field
trinque: and that someone being oh so very upset with you is not a consequence.
trinque: I certainly wasn't arbitrarily attacked in childhood, but I knew very well that certain behavior choices would result in an ass-kicking.
trinque: and I think that's exactly the right approach.
ascii_field: i think this one might be the first 1stperson-pov-filmed postal in usa
mircea_popescu: << that epic moment when xt-ians figure out they're destined to lose, by design.
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mircea_popescu: ascii_field some woman blew her brains out on live cam
mircea_popescu: actually multiple of these.
trinque: I've seen a vid of a dude doing the same
ascii_field: that ain't a postal
mircea_popescu: ;;googe live reporter suicide
trinque: yeah
gribble: Error: "googe" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: googe should be a word.
trinque: sounds like an unpleasant substance
trinque: hm, #suicideselfie
trinque: can we get it to trend?!
mircea_popescu: no, for obvious reasons.
trinque: I suppose it'd be short-lived.
trinque: were these instances of people acting out common around the soviet collapse?
mircea_popescu: this collapse couldn't be more unlike that collapse in the following fundamental way :
mircea_popescu: the soviet state was a slow, inept drain on the resources of an otherwise powerful, self reliant and resourceful population.
mircea_popescu: contrariwise, the usg is a competent prop of an otherwise inept, worthless and disabled population.
mircea_popescu: the us is going to fail like argentina and the congo, not like russia or romania.
ascii_field: more of a rhodesia
trinque: makes sense.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i dun think so.
trinque: I wonder if there's some subconscious awareness of this, being overextended and unable to help oneself.
trinque: hence nervous breakdown all over
mircea_popescu: if you push the point, you can claim the various attacks as quite edifyingly narcissistic
mircea_popescu: ascii_field what, you figure the chinese care ? i don't think they care.
mircea_popescu: they might rhodesia japan, and certainly will do something or other to korea. but the us ? i dunno.
mats: le video for those interested in seeing it
assbot: 2015-08-26-1118-50.flv - Google Drive ... ( )
mircea_popescu: is there a transcript ?
punkman: mats doesn't work here
BingoBoingo: mats: You dig up the manifesto, I've been looking for it.
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ascii_field: (or i suppose the actual original is the leaked mailbox, which anyone can go and get)
trinque: mats: guy seems like a terrible shot.
trinque: squeezed off 3-4 at <10ft? target runs away?
mircea_popescu: that's another thing. all these "gun violence" exponents are barely acquainted with guns.
mircea_popescu: it's like a "end violence - ban sinks" because a buncha bums keep running into houses, stealing the sinks and buldgeoning the poor ladies to death with 'em
trinque: if he'd ever picked one up before, it was in front of the mirror
trinque: heh, yup
mircea_popescu: "clearly - sinks kill people"
mats: BingoBoingo: i don't think ABC has released it
mircea_popescu: "you don't need a sink anyway, who doesn't eat at mcd ? terrorists, that's who!"
mircea_popescu: trinque dude thinking about it... 4 misses under 10 feet is not even terrible anymore. this is level.
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ascii_field: hey there are folks who miss own head !
ascii_field: from 10cm
trinque: hahaha
mircea_popescu: that i can see.
mircea_popescu: people are wired to miss own head. but nobody's wired to miss a fucking monkey 10 feet away.
assbot: - Clumsy Kid Destroys $1.5M Painting ... ( )
trinque: the guy was probably so internally conflicted that half of him didn't want to do it
trinque: flinching with every squeeze
mats: punkman: is a flash video, mayhaps thats why?
punkman: mats, I downloaded it, but such scam, too short
mircea_popescu: trinque untrained shooters have problems controlling their own reactions to the noise/physical stress.
trinque: yep
trinque: everything paints a picture of impulsive lashing out, not some plan, and certainly nothing deserving a "manifesto"
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: actually, even before the round fires - 'anticipatory flinch'
mats: i dunno about impulsive, if he was telling the truth about getting the handgun ~3mos ago
mircea_popescu: well yeah, he learned from prev one
mircea_popescu: trinque the manifesto is prolly just the nigger activistas creaming their pants
mircea_popescu: "whay none of these tyrones can wraet good like white folks! we should do something about it!"
trinque: mats: I dunno that I'd equate not being able to muster the (what? not courage) to do it == having a plan
mircea_popescu: "here's something that i just had my secretary type up and it was subseuqently found yesterday in the guy's dirty laundry bin."
trinque: nobody on the continent has a plan
trinque: just knows how having one looks on tv
mircea_popescu: bip 1337!
ascii_field: if he had a plan, there'd be a ruined bridge or demolished dam
trinque: with steampunk gogglez
mircea_popescu: ascii_field why this civil engineering bend ?
ascii_field: because it is abundantly clear that the standard u.s. 'postal' is going for tlp/fantasy-actualization, rather than partizan/corpse-maximization
mircea_popescu: if he had a plan, he'd have gone with a vest at one of those endless "conferences", except one for law enforcement. that's where all the alread-stole-enough DEA agents & c go to prowl for young meat.
mircea_popescu: wait for 9pm on friday night, pull the pin
ascii_field: spray petrol first.
mircea_popescu: nah, fire's ineffectual.
mircea_popescu: roll around in plastique, roll around in bearing balls.
ascii_field: on the contrary
mircea_popescu: call it the boom donut
ascii_field: fire holds the record thus far in north amer.
ascii_field: !s happyland
assbot: 0 results for 'happyland' :
ascii_field: !s happy land fire
assbot: 3 results for 'happy land fire' :
mircea_popescu: ascii_field fuel bombs are great but impossible to deliver on foot.
ascii_field: that's be fuel-air demolition thingie
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ascii_field: not what was meant here.
mircea_popescu: this said, it should be interesting to see what happens if there's say a coordinated booming of all the dams on the sacramento river. 15 minute intervals, going downstream.
mircea_popescu: not like they have water as it is.
ascii_field: ask orlov, l0l
mircea_popescu: still, this approach is ill advised.
mircea_popescu: currently there exists 0 example of a terrorist attack that actually justifies the government effort.
mircea_popescu: what, the terrorists bombed wall street ? uh oh, man in the street is so upset.
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: my point was that whatever it was the 'postal' folks were optimizing for, it certainly isn't max damage or even intimidation
ascii_field: and the only thing they all have in common is that they play into the hands of usg agenda.
mircea_popescu: (incidentally : usable demolition charges are so unremarkable, they had to make a special treaty so everyone agrees to outlaw untagged charges. which is why all the brouhaha about "Sniffing explosives". properly made c4/semtex etc are not actually detectable on their own)
ascii_field: not as other than quadrapole/nmr
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i dun see it, just because you ex post facto define that agenda (as do they) doesn't mean it;'s anything
ascii_field: (ever wonder why the stereotypical arabian explosive is the suicidally unstable peroxide of acetone? no N !)
mircea_popescu: eh, good luck with nmr on such a scale.
mircea_popescu: for that matter, it's not THAT hard to manufacture.
mircea_popescu: certainly easier than meth.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: the detector is commercially-available, and mostly works
ascii_field: (with the obvious limitations)
mircea_popescu: chief among them, that it runs on windows ?
ascii_field: almost certainly
ascii_field: iirc mats was involved in mine-clearing
ascii_field: mats: does quadrupole nmr earn its pay ?
mircea_popescu: im sure if you have a lot of time and a well defined cube to look into it's useful.
mircea_popescu: ;;google container port
gribble: ContainerPort Group, Inc.: <>; Newark - ContainerPort Group, Inc.: <>; Cincinnati - ContainerPort Group, Inc.: <>
ascii_field: anyone remember the lulzy 'ADE 651' scam ?
ascii_field: (one of the many fake quadrupole mineseekers)
mats: i had to google to find out what you're talking about
mats: i was never trained on such a device if .mil operates them
mats: bread n butter was handheld GPR systems and bigger ones attached to huskies
ascii_field just now learned that the quadrupole thing was, apparently, ~not~ commercially available at any point other than in scam form
ascii_field: (empty box)
ascii_field: portable mass spec / gas chromatograph for volatiles - yes
ascii_field: and can be seen at american airports
mats: and some misc sensing/jamming RF equipment intended to diddle remotely operated IEDs
ascii_field: also famous
ascii_field: though one has to wonder what the designers of the mines had instead of brains, for it to work
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mats: poorly informed instructors i would presume
mats: afaik folks caught on pretty quick and vast majority of IEDs became victim activated pressure plates
mats: or manual det via km-long lamp wire
mats: nasty stuff. my unit was rendered 'combat ineffective' overseas a buncha times because all their vehicles got fucked and half the joes were in germany getting fitted for prosthetics
mats: but hey -- get blown up twice, you go home. that's nice of 'em, i guess...
ascii_field: has to be ~twice~ !?
mats: well, if it doesn't maim you, yeah
mats: if you just get rocked, you go back on mission after you an eval by the doc
mats: you get an*
ascii_field: mats: went to a lecture once, by a fella who put forth a model where soldier's helmet ends up playing the role of an acoustic lens
ascii_field: and focuses shock wave
ascii_field: he suggested changing the shape of the helmet
ascii_field: iirc never went anywhere
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mats: took a few years for DoD to figure it out, though
mircea_popescu: <mats> and half the joes were in germany getting fitted for prosthetics << germany is like the king of this trade by now.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: it's where usg has its mega-colonialbase in eu
mircea_popescu: ascii_field you seen those open cone helmet things ?
ascii_field: open cone? as in bismark ?
mircea_popescu: "just as good as the real one, but focuses the waves away from your head
mircea_popescu: dorkiest look ever, too. "hey, i'm a wizard-soldier"
ascii_field: if it's an actual cone, the viet cong might have patent !
mircea_popescu: those just had a point
mircea_popescu: imagine an asymptotic curve rotated around its asymptote with the ends cut off.
ascii_field: onion ?
ascii_field: or more like a klyster ?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: iirc there were 16th c. spanish helms which looked rather like this.
mircea_popescu: well i can't fucking find a piocture, and i don't recall where the fuck this was. some sort of innovative tank helmet
mircea_popescu: prolly classified.
mircea_popescu: no im pretty sure it was cereal.
mircea_popescu: speaking of, "Modi faces crucial test in India as onion prices soar. High onion prices are creating a challenge for Indian Prime Minister Narendra."
assbot: the shrunken head repair clinic & sacrificial brazier: Didn't This Guy's Mom Ever Tell Him Not to Bite Blasting Caps? ... ( )
mats: this photo often shown in sapper training to remind joes not to bite the caps. used to be you'd do that to activate 'em
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mats: << GPR/MD device. all sappers received instruction on operating this in initial training, starting in 2005 iirc
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asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: l0l l3
ascii_field: they own the ip range of the vampire tap (discussed earlier)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2583 @ 0.00070032 = 1.8089 BTC [-]
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ascii_field: ;;later tell thestringpuller the name was vitalik, not vitilak
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ascii_field: ;;later tell thestringpuller 'have you believe' -> 'would have you believe' ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
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trinque: PSA: I'm moving the blockchain for deedbot- to a larger volume, during which it will reject all deeds.
trinque: back in action shortly
thestringpuller: !up mitchell_callaha
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00070032 = 1.8909 BTC [-]
trinque: ^ back in action.
BingoBoingo: Oh shit, is BetBet the most reccomended betting solution in a reddit thread?
assbot: This is the most reddit sounding thing possible, but how would you recommend I bet bitcoin that Bernie Sanders will win the election? : Bitcoin ... ( )
thestringpuller: i just saw that. they downvoted the betmoose recommendation.
BingoBoingo: Prolly because it doesn't attract bettors, no one goes there.
thestringpuller: yea i di enjoy baseball season on bitbet
mircea_popescu: not a bad idea actually, some election bets. when is it, nov ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: November 2016. Primary season starts early 2016
BingoBoingo: The two partie's nominees should be decided by this time 2016
mircea_popescu: aha. kinda too soon yet huh
BingoBoingo: Actually the party conventions are in July 2016, could have bets on the nominations open, but still rather early
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2688 @ 0.00070056 = 1.8831 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: If someone proposes and adequately funds a bet on a nominee I suppose there would be no reason not to open it.
BingoBoingo: !up Duffer1
Duffer1: xt :/ wtf
BingoBoingo: Eh, about a weeklong fad
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00070032 = 1.3306 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00070032 = 3.4316 BTC [-]
trinque: this "powder keg of anger" trend in the news causes me to anticipate the criminalization *of* anger.
assbot: grsecurity ... ( )
mats: >With that in mind, today's announcement is concerned with the future availability of our stable series of patches. We decided that it is unfair to our sponsors that the above mentioned unlawful players can get away with their activity. Therefore, two weeks from now, we will cease the public dissemination of the stable series and will make it available to
mats: sponsors only.
trinque: well that sucks.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4750 @ 0.000706 = 3.3535 BTC [+] {3}
trinque: kinda points to the idiocy of talking about software in terms of "rights" and "fair" too
trinque: what's the cost of a secure(-ish) operating system? nobody knows
trinque: rather, the price, I mean.
trinque: actually, 200/mo isn't bad at all
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00070032 = 2.0309 BTC [-]
trinque: I take it back. They're doing exactly what they should.
trinque: if oddly indirect compared to just buying software
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00069843 = 3.7715 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: Joe Biden not sure he has the "emotional fuel" for a bid - Election 2016 - CBS News ... ( )
trinque: I guess Trump's the anointed one.
asciilifeform: nah - clitler
assbot: Logged on 27-08-2015 00:30:44; mats: >With that in mind, today's announcement is concerned with the future availability of our stable series of patches. We decided that it is unfair to our sponsors that the above mentioned unlawful players can get away with their activity. Therefore, two weeks from now, we will cease the public dissemination of the stable series and will make it available to
assbot: Logged on 15-11-2014 18:18:27; asciilifeform: l of this "code sharing" is an economic surplus phenomenon. It works only when none of the people involved in it are in any form of need. As soon as the need arises, a lot of people discover that it has cost them real money to work for the community and they reap very little benefit from it, because they are sharing value-less services and getting value out of something that people take for granted
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You know soon we will get to find out Preet's feelings or lack thereof for Clitler
asciilifeform has very little patience for peddlers of 'hardenings,' 'mitigations,' and other so-called 'solutions' which are guaranteed to advance the pestilence of non-fits-in-head
trinque: they have plenty of time to destroy her yet.
mats: i predicted both of these responses by asciilifeform
mats: where do i collect my winnings
BingoBoingo: Biden might though legitimately want to retire to the country and spend his days waxing his pontiac firebird
asciilifeform: mats: at the international bank of obvious
asciilifeform: i have very special hatred reserved for so-called 'hardening' because it is a sly and weasely psychological trick, which exploits the customary context of the word (as it pertains to, e.g., metallurgy) to support an entirely spurious analogy
asciilifeform: in so far as there is greater complexity, there is greater 'attack surface,' and the result is in every sense softer, squishier, and more turdlike, rather than 'hardened'
asciilifeform: even if it appear to address some familiar exploit.
asciilifeform: *appears to
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00070076 = 3.2936 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: << we aren't so far from one of the worlds of robert sheckley's stories, the ones with the 'normality meters' in public doorways
assbot: Logged on 27-08-2015 00:28:14; trinque: this "powder keg of anger" trend in the news causes me to anticipate the criminalization *of* anger.
asciilifeform: (doesn't need telepathic electronics, either. face recognizer vendors are sinking $maxint into detectors of 'hinky' (term of art - named after hinkley!) behaviour in crowds)
trinque: aounds exactly like what I have in mind
mats: for fans of anime, 'psycho pass' is kind of a ghost in the shell, minority report take on the 'normality meter'
trinque: *sounds
trinque: citizens with tendencies toward anger shall be required to wear a state-issued bracelet at all times, lest they become a danger to themselves and others.
asciilifeform: first anger, then any deviation from bovinity conceivable.
mats: i recommend watching it, its quite good
trinque: mats: neat, I'll check both out.
mats: 'ghost in the shell' is about a world where 'cyberization', that is, replacement of virtually every organ except the brain, becomes affordable to some folks
mats: the protagonist is a supah-hackah woman who was in an accident early in life and doesn't remember what its like to have a physical body
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4350 @ 0.00069822 = 3.0373 BTC [-] {3}
mats: 'psycho pass' is about a japan where devices that can measure mental health are on every street corner, managed by an entity known as the 'sybil system' and enforced by public security. the focus of the story is a public security officer
phf: i wish psycho pass didn't have such obvious animu art style, gives me unpleasant flashback to college
mats: did the animu touch you in a bad place
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trinque: I rather enjoy it when done well, not that I've seen that many.
phf: yeah, the whole "nerd culture" bait and switch. i watched some anime growing up, mostly because cyberpunk, ghost in the shell, armitage, akira, so when moved here was somehow was also expected to enjoy shit like evangelion or what's that one with rubber guy
phf: one piece
phf: "hey, i see you have heard of movies, we also like movies you should watch movies with us"
mats: lol
asciilifeform: phf: ... so when moved here was somehow was also expected to enjoy shit like evangelion <<< YES!
asciilifeform: phf: my current understanding is that there are 2 basic types of 'anime'
asciilifeform: one meant to be watched like a normal movie, and one with heavy lsd
asciilifeform: (or idk how else even it might work.)
mats: re: grsec post, apparently the offending corporation is Intel
mats: bazinga
asciilifeform: mega-unsurprise.
asciilifeform: though somewhat surprising that they have any involvement with a linux at all
BingoBoingo: Linux is a buzzword, why wouldn't Intel try to exert control over it
mats: apparently in relation to 'a product of a subsidiary', one 'Wild River Linux':
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mircea_popescu: mats really this market will narrow out.
asciilifeform: mats: you know what they're famous for, no ?
asciilifeform: !s wind river
assbot: 3 results for 'wind river' :
mats: IoT thingies?
assbot: Logged on 05-11-2014 03:54:30; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: << what wind river was dinged for
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15950 @ 0.0006979 = 11.1315 BTC [-] {2}
mats: ha... 750k
asciilifeform: and, iirc, earlier, involvement with the sco scumbags
phf: asciilifeform: it's a cargo cult. my understanding is that japanese use manga as illustrated prose. situation with japanese culture in u.s. american u.s. culture around anime/manga is essentially "let's read furniture assembly manuals, then read some yukio mishima, then watch cellphone instructional video for 12 yr/old girls, because superior culture of japan!"
mircea_popescu: <mats> did the animu touch you in a bad place << bwahaha
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mircea_popescu: segway on list ?
asciilifeform: segway is best vehicle for vertical earthwise travel.
BingoBoingo: Nope, doesn't carry enough weight, also requires standing
asciilifeform: as demonstrated by ceo.
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mircea_popescu: there's this ancient segway story from the early days of bitcoin
mircea_popescu: back when amir was a "core developer"
mircea_popescu: ;;google "Oh, and next time you trash and break a Segway in Vienna that Alex paid for because some fat girl offers you a hug...DONT RUN AWAY AND LEAVE THE SEGWAY IN THE STREET!!!!!! (true story for whoever wants to know. Roger, Erik and myself were there)"
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asciilifeform: l0l, whizzardz!
asciilifeform reads their logz on occasion
mircea_popescu: you probably read the fucking eskimo book of the dead, on occasion.
asciilifeform: occasion.
asciilifeform: get the walrus-skin binding, if available.
mircea_popescu: you know, plural of walrus should be walroi
asciilifeform: i usually 'walri'
mircea_popescu: wtf is this walrus"es" bs.
BingoBoingo: Wal-Roy
mircea_popescu: next to wal-fart, the largest employer in america!
asciilifeform: mallfart.
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mats: curiously, INTC took a ~10% dive in the two weeks following the publication of 'Intel Subsidiary Agrees to 750k Penalty for Unauthorized Encryption Exports'
asciilifeform: '750k plus a light tap by the fed on the brake pedal'
asciilifeform: reminds me of my crackpot hypothesis that the 47 megabux '419sp4mz0red away' by ubiquiti corp. is actually a secret fine levied by nsa star chamber
mats: 750k shouldn't even sting. in fact, i'd think their stock _would go up_ following the closure of the matter and such a light settlement
asciilifeform: and that outrageous losses by public american corps are in fact results of gag order
asciilifeform: and the fact that ~something~ must be said,
asciilifeform: because shareholders' pocket calculators don't respond to gag orders (yet.)
mircea_popescu: the soviets did outright steal from the various coops, entreprises scl towards the end
asciilifeform: where else.
mircea_popescu: so perhaps.
mircea_popescu: circulating capital.
mircea_popescu: so this shop sells dried fruit. omfg it's good.
mircea_popescu: sundried peaches. mangoes. you name it.
asciilifeform: 24k btc !
asciilifeform had an early but astonishingly (likely beyond anybody here's belief) introduction to bitcoin
asciilifeform: astonishingly asocial ^^^^
asciilifeform: was interested, for instance, in mining, but at no point contemplated buying anything or paying anyone to do it
asciilifeform: so missed all of this hilarious 2012 drama
mircea_popescu: oh. yeah.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: was reading BingoBoingo's link
BingoBoingo too the asocial introduction to BTC route as well
trinque: I found out about bitcoin when a friend of mine mentioned he'd lost 136 on an encrypted hard drive for which he lost the keys.
asciilifeform: trinque: he still has it ?
asciilifeform: trinque: 'cause i'll buy it.
trinque: no, idiot reformatted it and put music or movies on it if I recall.
asciilifeform: hint for anybody contemplating this line of adventure: ~don't~ ask 'encrypted how' before bidding.
asciilifeform: reveals information to adversary for free.
asciilifeform: but perhaps this is obvious.
kakobrekla: i also know a guy who lost bout that much on a week old ssd - controller dead
asciilifeform: would also buy.
asciilifeform: why didn't kakobrekla buy it!
trinque: that one sounds way more salvageable
kakobrekla: if you think the trick with replacing the controller with another from same model will work - it will not.
asciilifeform: i know very well that it does not.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: what one does in such a case is to lift the nands
mats: and then?
asciilifeform: (and no, restoring the contents, once they are resoldered onto something built for the occasion, is not trivial - need to reconstruct the 'wear-leveling' scheme)
asciilifeform: but this is a much easier way to earn 100+ btc than nearly anything else.
kakobrekla: well, not in 2012 or whenever it happened.
kakobrekla: 2011 even perhaps.
kakobrekla: well - you know why kako didnt buy.
BingoBoingo: because car?
asciilifeform: because 100btc were lying on the pavement in those days...
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asciilifeform: ^ concerns organized mass whining re: 'high frequency traders'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00071098 = 4.8702 BTC [+] {5}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform << check out how a github project of "code handed from above" looks.
mircea_popescu: they dumped it, after which they fixed two typos in five weeks.
BingoBoingo: Oh, gitrub is down here
BingoBoingo: "The page isn't redirecting properly"
BingoBoingo: Well, china is DDoSing them again...
BingoBoingo: Github reportedly mitigated that quickly this time. Could be fresh DDoS or maybe BGP shennanigans
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00070125 = 1.8934 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: so i'm comissioning a commemorative drawing of the defeat of the xt,
mircea_popescu: and i got a coupla spots to fill in hell.
mircea_popescu: anyone care to suggest ?
BingoBoingo: Stingray raping Hearn?
mircea_popescu: obviously he'd be in there. suggest whom i might have overlooked.
BingoBoingo: No, I'm more concerned with suggesting the stingray getting its rape on.
mircea_popescu: ver is involved ?!
BingoBoingo: e tweeted support
mircea_popescu: i thought he was in customs detention
mircea_popescu: anyway, im not beating [too many] dead horses.
BingoBoingo: No, he was jsut barred entry
BingoBoingo: Ver barred entry in much the way I am barred exit (for nao)
mircea_popescu: fu8cking ridiculous, no actual names in favour to be found.
mircea_popescu: gavin, dyke, and that's ite.
BingoBoingo: Well Conde Nast et al in the media
BingoBoingo: There's also the letter of 8 companies sharing a bunch of VC's who wrote about supporting XT without saying XT
mircea_popescu: i guess ima have to dig in that shitpile.
mircea_popescu: a you know what ? i'm putting murck in there.
mircea_popescu: because fuck your stupid mother, you idiot you.
BingoBoingo: Lotta atroturf, few actual names I've cared to remember beyond the two An heroes for XT's cause
BingoBoingo: I mean there's unknown reddit derps including a few who shilled for mining scams before.
BingoBoingo: Really gotta go to fucks like Ver to get recognizable names
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00070224 = 1.4045 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3288 @ 0.00070165 = 2.307 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: "addr" : "" << Another "subver" : "/UMD-Coinscope:0.0/"
BingoBoingo: !up bekusoraru
BingoBoingo: 'Introduce yourself bekusoraru
asciilifeform: <BingoBoingo> "addr" : "" << Another "subver" : "/UMD-Coinscope:0.0/" << elaine shi & co
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> fu8cking ridiculous, no actual names in favour to be found. << andreesen ?
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> so i'm comissioning a commemorative drawing of the defeat of the xt, << it was defeated ?!
asciilifeform: << appears to be mostly identical to gavin's pile o'shit
assbot: Logged on 27-08-2015 02:31:45; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform << check out how a github project of "code handed from above" looks.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1470 @ 0.00070308 = 1.0335 BTC [+]
asciilifeform contemplates 'pools are a fatal bug
asciilifeform: esp. in light of last night's thread, and of
assbot: Logged on 08-08-2015 03:27:00; mircea_popescu: << this is only a problem of resource distribution. yes, in a world where for incomprehensible reasons every unit of plancton gets disposable money, you get britney spears and reddit.
mircea_popescu: pools are a bug. fatal... dunno
asciilifeform: guess we find out soon, neh ?
bekusoraru: my segway does 120 vert. i fucked the landing, now i am hurt.
asciilifeform: and they're a bug not merely in the hearnia-enabling sense. but in a philosophical sense - dollars to doughnuts it was the existence of the pool, of derps-mattering-in-the-aggregate-and-knowing-it, that bred many of the socio-psychiatric ills of 2011-present btc
asciilifeform was thinking of only this while being eaten alive by mosquitoes
BingoBoingo: They are definitely a bug satoshi missed when he wrote up mining attached nodes.
mircea_popescu: eh, get out of here. you should have been here earlier, back when someone being in btc was 50-50 they're pedos too.
asciilifeform: l0l i thought there was just that one
asciilifeform: pierce something-or-other
BingoBoingo: Eh, I went back and read the "don't run bitcoin on a VPS because you will get bounced for CPU usage"
BingoBoingo: So much archaeology
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> pierce something-or-other << Also the Wagner guy
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00070509 = 2.4326 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2156 @ 0.00070308 = 1.5158 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00070028 = 4.4118 BTC [-] {4}
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