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(pest) asciilifeform: imho ideally would be a) png b) 'file' (mp3, djvu, whatever) that opens up in external proggy (if such exists)
(asciilifeform) phf: but observe that djvu is not at all popular in the comic book world, where want to preserve pretty picture, so also a very narrow kind of bookwarez
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform tried on various occasions to djvuize these, the sharp lines of the vectorisms disintegrate into ugh
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: phf: pdf is container, with an enumerated set of possible contents none of which afaik amts to a decent djvu-style compressor for b00kw4r3z.
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: Logged on 2022-06-09 11:30:06 phf: my point though is that djvu is a scan compression technology with barely a container, while pdf is exclusively a container. comparing the two as equivalents is silly, because the later obviously has more usecases
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: upstack, in less 'superficial' observations than merely 'does this take 10s to draw a page on asciilifeform's box' -- pdfism and likewise djvuism suffer from similar sad, that being a rejection of hypertext -- can link to indiv. chapter ? navigating to a link and returning result in a multi-minute rerender of megaturd; overall regression to 'dark age' imho
(asciilifeform) phf: my point though is that djvu is a scan compression technology with barely a container, while pdf is exclusively a container. comparing the two as equivalents is silly, because the later obviously has more usecases
(asciilifeform) phf: asciilifeform: the trick that djvu plays is separating text rendering from image rendering, and then the image is compressed very agressively (that's why you often see visual artifacts on non-text parts of djvu)
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: incidentally djvu has own headaches on acct of 'too clever' compressor, e.g. notice how in some scans и turns to н errywhere, as if some evildoer with time machine went back and fucked 'наука и жизнь' at typesetter
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: phf: indiv. packing per page doesn't give djvu-style compression, tho
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: 200MB pdf turns into a visually-~identical 8MB djvu, and given that phf looked into the mechanics of the formats, likely knows why
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform must disagree, exactly same $warez when transcoded to djvu 'flies' like microfiche when scrolled on asciilifeform's boxen, in stark contrast to the orig. pdf
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform pictures if 'mp3' had not caught on, situation in audio would resemble that of graphics; djvu arguably directly analogous to mp3ism
(asciilifeform) phf: well, on a personal level, besides the ^ i've mostly gave up on djvu because it requires significant effort to write it in lisp, because their compression system is clever. to this day i don't think djvu exists outside of their reference code
(asciilifeform) phf: yes, wainot djvu
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: earlier had 'kindle dx' and there was an (aftermarket) patch (admittedly gnarly to apply) which added djvuism
(asciilifeform) phf: djvu doesn't exist in any usable form outside of linux. mac client is from the 90s, no online renderers, etc.
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: wainot djvu for these ?
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: phf: imho ps was a perfectly decent format, and irreplaceable for some use cases. whereas for e.g. scans, to this day no substitute for djvu
(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: imho a sane vector format would subsume e.g. djvu and allow for encoding chunks of photocrapola, and basic affine transforms on same
(asciilifeform) dulapbot: (trilema) 2018-07-22 asciilifeform: oh almost forgot, for thread-completeness : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-22#1837154 << >> http://www.loper-os.org/pub/astanin_kostylev.djvu << for the serious aficionado.
(asciilifeform) snsabot: (trilema) 2019-04-23 asciilifeform: here we go : 1801 schematics ; 1801 manual vol.1 1801 manual vol.2 .
(trilema) BingoBoingo: 1999 book by now deceased Israeli. Intro by Gore Vidal. Probably the best English language resource on why USG and Israel insist on suicide pacting together. https://archive.org/stream/JewishHistoryJewishReligion_665/JewishFundamentalismInIsrael_djvu.txt 1999 book by now deceased
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2019-04-23 22:59 asciilifeform: here we go : 1801 schematics ; 1801 manual vol.1 1801 manual vol.2 .
(trilema) stjohn_piano_2: asciilifeform: this computer doesn't have a djvu reader, but i have no doubt that it's painful.
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2019-04-23 22:59 asciilifeform: here we go : 1801 schematics ; 1801 manual vol.1 1801 manual vol.2 .
(trilema) asciilifeform: ( fwiw i (and other ru warez folk) like ancient at&t 'djvu' format, it is moar or less jpeg with optional ocr searchable track. a 300MB pdf turd becomes a 2-3MB djvu. )
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2019-02-12 01:31 asciilifeform: relatedly to entire subj, http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/warez/burns.djvu is the most readable ref i've found on the subj (of how the thing is supposed to work, that is , when actually worx )
(trilema) asciilifeform: relatedly to entire subj, http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/warez/burns.djvu is the most readable ref i've found on the subj (of how the thing is supposed to work, that is , when actually worx )
(trilema) asciilifeform: ( could've just as easily been a 3MB djvu, but the derps evidently dun know that this exists )
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2018-07-22 19:21 asciilifeform: oh almost forgot, for thread-completeness : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-22#1837154 << >> http://www.loper-os.org/pub/astanin_kostylev.djvu << for the serious aficionado.
(trilema) asciilifeform: oh almost forgot, for thread-completeness : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-22#1837154 << >> http://www.loper-os.org/pub/astanin_kostylev.djvu << for the serious aficionado.
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2018-01-13 17:14 mircea_popescu: (in other lulz, check out what portland state stole! http://www.web.pdx.edu/~ott/Gelasius/ "abridged translation for classroom use"! for entomologists only, otherwise teh sauce is https://archive.org/stream/epistolaeromano00unkngoog/epistolaeromano00unkngoog_djvu.txt ; or a proper hardcopy if the google mauling is offensive to the eyes, i guess)
(trilema) mircea_popescu: (in other lulz, check out what portland state stole! http://www.web.pdx.edu/~ott/Gelasius/ "abridged translation for classroom use"! for entomologists only, otherwise teh sauce is https://archive.org/stream/epistolaeromano00unkngoog/epistolaeromano00unkngoog_djvu.txt ; or a proper hardcopy if the google mauling is offensive to the eyes, i guess)
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 03:35 asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/hl/hl.html << example of one 'handmade' alternative to djvu & similar
(trilema) asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/hl/hl.html << example of one 'handmade' alternative to djvu & similar
(trilema) asciilifeform: djvu is a nonturingcomplete item, rather like a multipage jpeg with asciitext ocrtrack (optional)
(trilema) kanzure: huh? asciilifeform said djvu is yes
(trilema) asciilifeform: kanzure: djvu in place of pdf, say, for starters
(trilema) asciilifeform: aint these folx ever heard of djvu
(trilema) phf: oddly enough djvu is hated in angloworld (something something patents), but most of the archives of soviet written material is in djvu
(trilema) Framedragger: yeah djvu is great for what it does. never bothered to check how it actually worx, wavelet compressor, cool.
(trilema) asciilifeform: djvu has some annoying quirks ( lossy compressor, so sometimes, e.g., И turns into Н on entire page ) but otherwise mindblowingly great tech, a scan that'd be 400M in pdf, can be 4 , and actually uses the res of whatever display you have, incl. printer, to display ~= original
(trilema) asciilifeform: funnily enough the problem of 'how to store scans without losing ANYTHING' was long ago solved : 'djvu' (ancient bell labs thing, i use it every day)
(trilema) phf: probably not. unless there's a djvu archive somewhere of "доклады академии наук ссср"
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 20:47 phf: asciilifeform: you happen to have a djvu archive of теxника-молодежи?
(trilema) phf: asciilifeform: you happen to have a djvu archive of теxника-молодежи?
(trilema) asciilifeform: incidentally djvu compressor is 'too good' and makes ocr quite a bit more difficult - it sometimes INTRODUCES typos
(trilema) asciilifeform: djvu or it neverhappened (tm) (r)
(trilema) mircea_popescu: well, since alf doesn't want to engage the failure modes of "we know what stupidity is", let's just leave reference to perhaps the best folkloric work of all time, https://archive.org/stream/operecompletedig301pitr/operecompletedig301pitr_djvu.txt
(trilema) adlai: and on the 8th day, God released pdf2djvu
(trilema) ascii_butugychag: now it just needs to become a djvu
(trilema) assbot: Logged on 29-08-2015 05:44:47; phf: (entire perelman archive in djvu http://publ.lib.ru/ARCHIVES/P/PEREL'MAN_Yakov_Isidorovich/_Perel'man_Ya.I..html, probably of interest only for ascii)
(trilema) gribble: Full text of "I Hope They Serve Beer In Hell" - Internet Archive: <https://archive.org/stream/IHopeTheyServeBeerInHell/TuckerMax-IHopeTheyServeBeerInHellebook-OcrPdf_djvu.txt>; The Now Infamous Charity Auction Debacle « TuckerMax.com: <http://tuckermax.com/stories/the-now-infamous-charity-auction-debacle/>; A Man for All Seasons (1966) - Quotes - IMDb: (1 more message)
(trilema) ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i use a (very large) tablet thing to read djvu scans, and (occasionally) hyperlinkified therealbitcoin src. that's it.
(trilema) phf: (entire perelman archive in djvu http://publ.lib.ru/ARCHIVES/P/PEREL'MAN_Yakov_Isidorovich/_Perel'man_Ya.I..html, probably of interest only for ascii)
(trilema) asciilifeform: http://loper-os.org/pub/Krokodil_1985_13.djvu << uploaded for this thread. i will let readers decide if mr mold was fair about krokodil
(trilema) phf: hehe, maybe you also have PAIP in djvu?
(trilema) assbot: Logged on 28-07-2015 21:56:15; ascii_field: trinque et al: http://nosuchlabs.com:8000/keene.djvu
(trilema) ascii_field: i actually do not like pdf, for various reasons, some of which overlap with mircea_popescu's. i prefer a wavelet-compressed format, 'djvu'
(trilema) decimation: do you have a collection of custom scripts to turn a pile of images into a pdf/djvu
(trilema) asciilifeform: incidentally, the biggest downer of 'djvu' wavelet compressor is that it... actually introduces typos like this (!)
(trilema) gribble: Harrison Bergeron - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Bergeron>; Harrison Bergeron - Tnellen.com: <http://www.tnellen.com/cybereng/harrison.html>; Full text of "Harrison Bergeron (& Activity)" - Internet Archive: <https://archive.org/stream/HarrisonBergeron/Harrison%20Bergeron_djvu.txt>
(trilema) Adlai: latest chromium has an embedded pdf viewer, pissing me off. i used to click pdfs without worry, knowing that they'd get downloaded and i could process them safely later (pdf2djvu, open in vm, w/e)
(trilema) gribble: the book of honor -- the two mikes - American Buddha: <http://www.american-buddha.com/bookhonor.7.htm>; Full text of "Leo M. Frank. The Dead Shall Rise by Steve Oney": <https://archive.org/stream/LeoM.Frank.TheDeadShallRiseBySteveOney/DeadShallRise_djvu.txt>; Where's Walden? » 2008 » June: <http://whereswalden.com/2008/06/>
(trilema) asciilifeform: decimation: djvu exists for a reason
(trilema) decimation: asciilifeform: do you know of a reasonable gui tool to search and index djvu's with text?
(trilema) decimation: asciilifeform: yeah I agree, 'djvu' with a text-track would be a pretty good format
(trilema) asciilifeform: ocr performed on 'djvu' document typically inserts an ascii text track, along with 'bounding boxes' internally
(trilema) asciilifeform: afaik patent trolls succeeded in more or less exterminating acceptable compression for scanned books. djvu was devised by folks who didn't care to comply.
(trilema) asciilifeform: 'djvu', even on an aged box, scrolls so quickly one almost can believe he has a microfilm viewer.
(trilema) decimation: djvu is a pretty amazing 'paper' compression tool. proprietary "paperport" works very well too
(trilema) asciilifeform: russians, accustomed to carrying around terabytes of scanned w4r3z for a generation, prefer 'djvu' - for which there is really no substitute.
(trilema) asciilifeform: decimation: 'kindle dx' with russian os patch will read djvu, but only really makes sense for very good, high-contrast b&w scans.
(trilema) decimation: asciilifeform: what is your favored djvu reading device? kindle dx?
(trilema) decimation: asciilifeform: re: djvu vs pdf << but surely you ocr your digital library
(trilema) asciilifeform: (nice thing about 'djvu' is that it automagically decompresses to whatever your native device resolution is, with no scaling op. hence speed.)
(trilema) asciilifeform: these typically don't come with the cpu horsepower to unpack djvu
(trilema) asciilifeform: (djvu is the canonical b00k w4r3z format - wavelet compression)
(trilema) asciilifeform: pankkake: know that if you convert djvu to, e.g, pdf, it baloons 25-50x in size
(trilema) asciilifeform: 'nexus 10', for example, is just right for reading vintage djvu scans of 'наука и жизнь'.
(trilema) asciilifeform: 'djvu' is better format for scans, anyway
(trilema) asciilifeform: this is only 2x the density of the 'nexus 10' widget i read djvus with.
(trilema) asciilifeform: (for anyone unfamiliar with 'djvu', it's an old but irreplaceable format specifically for warez scans. wavelet-compressed images. no turing-complete vector rendering as in pdf.)
(trilema) asciilifeform: my one and only flirt with programming for apple crap was a djvu viewer for ipad (model 1)
(trilema) asciilifeform: djvu is a really spiffy format that uses wavelet compression
(trilema) asciilifeform: i literally don't need it for anything other than reading djvu scans.
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