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assbot: Translation Of Chinese Miner Consensus Meeting | BitMEX Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/23sh5mU )
adlai: "Rejecting the Core immature Seg Wit proposal is very important... Therefore the 2MB limit and 90% fork consensus should bring us to a more acceptable fork, and we wish to see consensus on other issues (e.g. increasing unconfirmed tx)."
adlai didn't realize gas mask was required on this blog, too... should've been tipped off by the word 'miner'
danielpbarron: >> Historically Bitcoin is far from "reliable" as we have all experienced. For instance, we had a ValueOverflow incident on 2010/08/15 in which billions of Bitcoin were generated in 1 single block. << bitcoin didn't even really exist in 2010
adlai: miners rejecting softforks and encouraging hard is like... like... i can't even.
danielpbarron: and is "BitMEX" supposed to be confused with MPEx ? or is that just in my head?
BingoBoingo: Who knows anymore
mircea_popescu: o wow, they charged the bundy thing huh ?
BingoBoingo: Well, for a handful of them
BingoBoingo: Still ~100 camped out
mircea_popescu: curious how this theory of "kill ammon the rest will go home" pans out for them
Duffer1: ammon's fine, they killed tarptard
BingoBoingo: Prolly like Waco
BingoBoingo: Duffer1: Ryan's wounded
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> anything involving american 'militia' sums to 0 from start. << they have a word for the dudes knowing the results of experiments aforehand, and that name pointedly isn't scientist.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo should end article in a question.
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 right you are.
mircea_popescu: well, curious nevertheless.
mod6: alright, all of V's automated tests are updated & passing. manual tests look good so far. documentation is updated. should be ready for a new bundle by the end of the week.
mod6: Salud!
BingoBoingo: "Recruits and their parents will have questions about either approach, although question No. 1 should be: How could a player the program used to plaster on billboards across the state end up in a video like that?" >> http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/ben-frederickson/benfred-if-clean-mauk-should-come-clean/article_9a463c0c-1b1b-5464-8e26-bf9d5ef536c2.html
assbot: BenFred: If clean, Mauk should come clean : Sports ... ( http://bit.ly/1TmSL1g )
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.46301616 BTC on 'Yes' - Donald Trump gets Republican Nomination - http://bitbet.us/bet/1206/donald-trump-gets-republican-nomination/#b79
BingoBoingo: lol Trumettes can cry all they like. My establishment boy Rubio's still the BitBet (i.e. real) favorite for the nomination https://bitbet.us/bet/1205/marco-rubio-will-be-republicans-2016-presidential-nominee/
assbot: BitBet - Marco Rubio will be Republicans' 2016 Presidential Nominee :: 0.54 B (54%) on Yes, 0.47 B (46%) on No | closing in 2 months 2 weeks | weight: 37`696 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1KJwMN1 )
BingoBoingo: !up Alopex
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19300 @ 0.00056079 = 10.8232 BTC [+] {3}
davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1386719 <<< feels like tossing a mentos in diet coke
assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 00:09:14; BingoBoingo: ;;later tell davout good job https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/42tcqm/eli5_wouldnt_it_be_extremely_inefficient_to_copy/
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 395277 | Current Difficulty: 1.2003334065123697E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 397151 | Next Difficulty In: 1874 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 7 hours, 53 minutes, and 41 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
BingoBoingo: Truefax: After Deliverance was released a major tourism and rafting industry developed along that stretch of river
kakobrekla: !up srijan
assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 03:08:00; srijan: thanks adlai for the info. kakobrekla, would you be able to help with that?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32740 @ 0.00055914 = 18.3062 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30350 @ 0.00055914 = 16.9699 BTC [-]
asciilifeform dreamed that the only type of meat now permitted was: worm, and was touring a former sausage factory, where they still made sausages, but never sold'em - only hung them up in specially-made racks to be infested by worms and converted entirely to them, before shipment
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1386973 << this is 'experiment' in the same sense as.. dropping a cube of sugar in a glass of water.
assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 05:41:09; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> anything involving american 'militia' sums to 0 from start. << they have a word for the dudes knowing the results of experiments aforehand, and that name pointedly isn't scientist.
asciilifeform: usaschwitz 'militia' folk are not pashtuns. they come from the same broken culture as everybody else.
asciilifeform: they are the full intellectual equals of the new york death ray schmuck
asciilifeform: as demonstrated by every single interaction between them and usg, ever, to date.
asciilifeform: i know that mircea_popescu gotta have his 'tough, resourceful partizans vs cowardly, blundering polizei' narrative. but look for it elsewhere.
asciilifeform: (even the urban black gangs are better candidates...)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84400 @ 0.00055877 = 47.1602 BTC [-] {3}
asciilifeform: but in point of fact there are no partizans in usa.
asciilifeform: any more than stampeding bulls are partizans on a farm.
asciilifeform: farmer - knows how to deal with the bull.
PeterL: BingoBoingo, "six members of the members of the" 1st paragraph
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12934 @ 0.00056201 = 7.269 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: Core Devs: Communication has improved, thank you. Two more moves, and the civil war may end. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1JENEaE )
jurov: "Move 1) Core clearly commits to a hard fork block size increase, by adding it to its formal roadmap."
mircea_popescu: lemme guess, reddit is pompously calling "everyone ignores us" a "civil war" ?
jurov: "Move 2) Core formally, publicly, and clearly denounces the censorship that has plagued community discussion, and should apologize for not having done so earlier. "
assbot: Logged on 26-01-2016 15:22:52; mircea_popescu: Following a campaign by 100 advocacy groups, Facebook agreed to update its policy on hate speech. The campaign highlighted content promoting domestic and sexual violence against women, and used over 57,000 tweets and more than 4,900 emails that caused withdrawal of advertising from the site by 15 companies, including Nissan UK, House of Burlesque and Nationwide UK. The social media website initially
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> but in point of fact there are no partizans in usa. <<< this is factually not so.
mircea_popescu: and i resent the "narrative" implication, especially seeing how it's your fucking problem.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-January/000194.html << Cool! I missed this lastnight. Can we use this to build the R.I. as we know it today, or is 'Shiva' the name of the required changes to the R.I. to use tinyscheme?
assbot: [BTC-dev] Tinyscheme Genesis, Cleanup, and Fixes. ... ( http://bit.ly/1WN9kDm )
mod6: Or how do we utilize this.
PeterL: I thought Shiva is tinyscheme stuffed into the R.I. ?
mod6: I have no clue. Was hoping asciilifeform would explain all of this when he gets a chance.
jurov: no he sent today only the tinyscheme code
jurov: the integration to come later
mircea_popescu: mod6 not for a while yet.
mircea_popescu: the idea is to replace json with sexpr which means you'll have to have some sort of scheme in there. and once you do, it'll replace the retarded format of coin scripts too, eventually.
mircea_popescu: but this is a very far seeing thing, for now it means ~nothing to bitcoind
thestringpuller: isn't sexpr some kinda latex stuff?
jurov: plus, as the database/datastructure (both in-memory and on-disk) implementations in C/C++ are retarded, they may be replaced by scheme ones (don't take that as promise on my part)
mod6: mircea_popescu: ahh, ok thanks for clearing that up.
mircea_popescu: actually it's the hole through which the day comes in, to stick to estalibhsed metaphora.
jurov: ;;google s-expression
gribble: S-expression - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-expression>; S-Expressions - Rosetta Code: <http://rosettacode.org/wiki/S-Expressions>; Lisp: list vs S-expression - Stack Overflow: <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10771107/lisp-list-vs-s-expression>
jurov: ^ thestringpuller
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller if you recall the raging arguments between the hyerophants and the zealots, s-expr was the one faint hope the alphabetic side nailed its hopes on.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65600 @ 0.00055229 = 36.2302 BTC [-] {4}
jurov: !up ascii_butugychag
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13975 @ 0.00056202 = 7.8542 BTC [+]
ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1387030 << actually the basic shivatron is done, but i'd like to test before posting
assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 15:12:46; mircea_popescu: mod6 not for a while yet.
ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1387032 << initially the thing is to be used, very carefully, as a kind of scriptable debugger (e.g., 'when a tx comes in, do XXX'
assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 15:13:24; mircea_popescu: but this is a very far seeing thing, for now it means ~nothing to bitcoind
ascii_butugychag: my first attempt was a very dirty hack, i re-did it as a properly vtronic thing (to preserve pedigree linkage to classical tinyscheme)
ascii_butugychag: incidentally, ~nobody~ noticed that i used an ancient vdiff that shat out timestamps
ascii_butugychag: mod6: should i re-grind the ts genesis? or can your vtron eat this without choking.
ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1387021 << if mircea_popescu tells me there are partizans, i'll believe. but the (fed-subsidized!) ranchers are sad schmucks.
assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 15:02:51; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> but in point of fact there are no partizans in usa. <<< this is factually not so.
ascii_butugychag: (perhaps whoever shot out the substations in ca last year, partizans)
ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1387027 << i promise to explain once the whole thing is up on the ml.
assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 15:12:03; mod6: I have no clue. Was hoping asciilifeform would explain all of this when he gets a chance.
ascii_butugychag: shiva is a very dangerous instrument, and anyone considering using it for whatever purpose will need to read the docs and 'measure seven times, cut once'
PeterL: basically it gives you hooks into the internal guts of bitcoind?
ascii_butugychag: you telnet and get a repl.
PeterL: is this a step toward a working bitcoin-os?
ascii_butugychag: something like that.
shinohai: telnet yet! I love it.
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag> incidentally, ~nobody~ noticed that i used an ancient vdiff that shat out timestamps << no, i noticed, as well as the "false" string.
ascii_butugychag: prolly gonna have to rebake it
ascii_butugychag: (and afaik nobody cancelled the 'false' for file dels)
ascii_butugychag: PeterL: the goal is much more modest, i just need something that lets me poke around a running trb
ascii_butugychag: gdb is a nonstarter, thing won't keep time with it in
mircea_popescu: and let's stick with the "narrative" bs. whether the us has any sensible life left in it somehwere or not doth make very little difference to me. i'd be quick to believe it makes very little difference to you also, if it weren't for your sad situation of being EX
mircea_popescu: ACTLY what you loudly despise in those rangers.
mircea_popescu: which is to say, fed subsidized.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: i think even the air i breathe is subsidized somehow.
mircea_popescu: so, how about : you show me you can in fact live like a man, rather than as a welfare child, and then i show you where there are partisans, to believe.
mircea_popescu: how about that.
mircea_popescu: but until such a time, i'll extend those dudes trying to do stuff the same slack i extend you, which is : who knows, maybe they are what they wish to be instead of what their environment seems to dictate. and maybe one day.
mod6: <+ascii_butugychag> mod6: should i re-grind the ts genesis? or can your vtron eat this without choking. << i can throw it in my patches dir tonight and see what it does with it.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't altogether seem a stretch, to me, this. but to attack the concept is to attack yourself.
mircea_popescu: !up ascii_butugychag
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: what would this look like? kalash, kandahar ?
mircea_popescu: no one can tell a man what his fucking life looks like!
mircea_popescu: all you can tell from aside is what it can't look like.
ascii_butugychag: no but what would count as properly honourable
ascii_butugychag: do i have to catch own goat ?
ascii_butugychag: or is it permissible to buy one
mircea_popescu: depends. is it with money you buy it, or with asshole ?
ascii_butugychag: with money. but then turns out that said goat was subsidized by american occupying soldiers...
mircea_popescu: there's no "turns out".
mircea_popescu: that's the problem here. this constant "turns out" device which allows you to pretend metaphysics beats physics and meta-* rules supreme.
mircea_popescu: nonsense!
mircea_popescu: stop passing by reference and instead pass by value. lest you sit among a pile of knotted pointers wondering where all the value went.
kakobrekla: anyone got that recent pic/link showing bitcoin dev by lines since beginning at hand?
mircea_popescu: yes one sec
jurov: !s in other news from:jurov
assbot: 7 results for 'in other news from:jurov' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=in+other+news+from%3Ajurov
kakobrekla: thank you
kakobrekla: better twice than nullce
PeterL: !up ascii_butugychag
ascii_butugychag just now realizes that mircea_popescu would make a world-class sergeant
ascii_butugychag: he can say 'drop and fifty pushups, maggot' and it will not even occur to one to not do the push-ups, much less that one is not maggot
mircea_popescu: and perhaps there is even good reason for this!
ascii_butugychag: how else.
mircea_popescu: anyway - i keep slaves, it affords me deeper knowledge and more experience in less time than any sargent could ever hope for.
mircea_popescu: but the deep reason isn't that it doesn't occur to the girls. it does occur. what also occurs is that it doth not, at the time, matter! whether they're maggots or not.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49700 @ 0.00056334 = 27.998 BTC [+] {3}
ascii_butugychag: i recall a spiffy mircea_popescu article re: how one ends up having to lie to chix, when telling them that they are worthless, because they are in fact worth something
ascii_butugychag: whereas a bloke is worth something possibly at the moment he charges the enemy machine-gun nest successfully
mircea_popescu: why so sexist ?
ascii_butugychag: how did it go... 'mammalian reproduction shits out horde of disposable males'
ascii_butugychag: hard to argue with this.
mircea_popescu: yes, well, in this sense at rest photons are the most valuable thing in the world, seeing how nature doth not shit them out at all.
mircea_popescu: anyway, this discussion goes splendidly with the article i've been working on, so ...
ascii_butugychag: 'bird's milk'
ascii_butugychag: (or, in the anglo world, 'hen's teeth')
deedbot-: [Trilema] The end of democracy - http://trilema.com/2016/the-end-of-democracy/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79106 @ 0.00054946 = 43.4656 BTC [-]
assbot: Google achieves AI 'breakthrough' by beating Go champion - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1nyFDul )
punkman: "Earlier on Wednesday, Facebook's chief executive had said its own AI project had been "getting close" to beating humans at Go."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33800 @ 0.00055139 = 18.637 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: so basically what, mandatory facebooking ?
mircea_popescu: "dear blackmailer - please do! i was dying for attention anyway."
adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1387104 << incidentally the idf has signed its own death certificate; by the time i served, your sergeant had to drop and do the pushups together with you!
assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 17:19:02; ascii_butugychag: he can say 'drop and fifty pushups, maggot' and it will not even occur to one to not do the push-ups, much less that one is not maggot
adlai: any self-respecting unit had exceptions in place, but every single new recruit had to sign a form exempting their sergeants from such rules
mircea_popescu: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggnog_Riot << this is one of the lulziest things ever.
assbot: Eggnog Riot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1QDQPRk )
mircea_popescu: i'm not even sure if the events or the tardpedia retelling make it.
PeterL: doesn't wikipedia have some sort of "needs to be noteable" policy?
mircea_popescu: yes, but it's necessarily a meaningless test seeing how wikipedia itself is not notable.
mircea_popescu: !up ascii_butugychag
ascii_butugychag: so there is a kind of phree volkischer-beobachter they hand out in the train station here. and it had a full page ad in it today, melted my brain, full pyongyang mode
ascii_butugychag: had an obama standing in a photoshopped mountain canyon, sunrise illuminating his saintly halo,
ascii_butugychag: 'thank you obama for defending our public lands!'
ascii_butugychag: i shit thee not.
assbot: The 8 Most Needlessly Detailed Wikipedia Entries | Cracked.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1QDTWsB )
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag put a pic up ?
ascii_butugychag: i'll grab a copy on my way back & scan it
ascii_butugychag: just so precious.
mircea_popescu: PeterL anything about the most tediously unfunny cracked article ?
PeterL: meh, it was the first thing that popped up. I don't really reccommen the link
ascii_butugychag: incidentally the centerpiece article in that rag was hilarious, it was about d.c. folk fighting over (yes) parking spots they excavated in the snow
PeterL: don't Chicago people do that all the time?
PeterL: "People are assholes, news at 11!"
mircea_popescu: so how does obama relate to the collapsed urban infrastructure i nthe very fucking capitol ?
ascii_butugychag: fiddles while it burns ?
mircea_popescu: so in a quest for obscure nonsense, we encounter an interesting bit of david blight : "One of the ideas the reconciliationist Lost Cause instilled deeply into the national culture is that even when Americans lose, they win. Such was the message, the indomitable spirit, that Margaret Mitchell infused into her character Scarlett O'Hara in Gone With the Wind."
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1QDVYc0 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8471 @ 0.00055821 = 4.7286 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_butugychag
assbot: Loper OS » The Book ... ( http://bit.ly/20tnuMf )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ascii_butugychag: ^ anybody else who wanted kogge's mega-b00k
ascii_butugychag: l337 w4r3z!11111
adlai only w4r3z secondhand cl3475
ascii_butugychag: pretty decent scan.
ascii_butugychag: no idea who did it.
adlai: ascii_butugychag: danke! i was able to get the pdf from the 2nd link with a textmode browser... "look ma, no js!"
ascii_butugychag: now it just needs to become a djvu
ascii_butugychag: and it'll be a winner.
ascii_butugychag: srsly who saves scans as pdf.
PeterL: isn't pdf kinda bulky?
ascii_butugychag: bitmaps are bulky
adlai: and on the 8th day, God released pdf2djvu
assbot: Why does TI have so many microcontrollers? - Electrical Engineering Stack Exchange ... ( http://bit.ly/20toNLf )
ascii_butugychag: 'Hercules is a continuation of the TMS470/TMS570 line. It's focused on safety and performance. One of the key features of Hercules is dual CPUs running the same code in parallel ("lock-step"). This lets you immediately detect faults in the CPU itself.' << apparently not entirely extinct
shinohai: ;;later tell mircea_popescu I installed Eulora on my new lappy, any chance you can resend me my pass when you have time? thanx.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mats: i was just in a meeting where bosses decided to downgrade ~10k windows 10 users to TLS 1.0 (from 1.2) because of a bug from patch tuesday
mats: wat
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40419 @ 0.00055682 = 22.5061 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: shinohai nope, i dun keep em.
mircea_popescu: do you have the original paste ?
assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 15:13:14; mircea_popescu: the idea is to replace json with sexpr which means you'll have to have some sort of scheme in there. and once you do, it'll replace the retarded format of coin scripts too, eventually.
assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 16:17:10; ascii_butugychag: you telnet and get a repl.
davout: :D
assbot: Anarcho-Tyranny: Danish Girl Fights Off Attempted Rape, Gets Charged By Government | VDARE - premier news outlet for patriotic immigration reform ... ( http://bit.ly/20tvHQp )
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: reason #310421 i need to move to portland: better air quality. How the fuck do I get inflamed sinuses in fucking winter?
thestringpuller: Georgia is such a cesspool.
BingoBoingo: No that's a reason to move to a mountaintop.
ben_vulpes: or mircea_popescu's salt mine
assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 03:51:03; BingoBoingo: Oh trilema header returns with more pyramid and afro
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19436 @ 0.00055856 = 10.8562 BTC [+] {2}
ben_vulpes doffs hat
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: how's that jew fro going?
thestringpuller has a soft spot for jew fros.
ben_vulpes: > ro-fro
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: you're not alone as a black-dude-with-an-affinity-slash-respect-for-the-non-black-dude-fro. when i let my hair down, everyone from the ethiopian immigrants here to the locals in jamaica all be like "yo man! hao cum yoo iz gott hayur like mee?!"
thestringpuller: exactly.
thestringpuller: lets go do disco now and dance!
pete_dushenski: if anything can ever bridge the black-white divide, it's this genetic anomaly.
thestringpuller: and basic white girls. black gus love basic white girls.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1387119 << how did this entire ~1.5k word piece not mention 'power laws' one single time ? iza disappoint :P
assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 19:02:52; deedbot-: [Trilema] The end of democracy - http://trilema.com/2016/the-end-of-democracy/
pete_dushenski: ;;ud basic
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Basic | Basic. An adjective used to describe any person, place, activity involving obscenely obvious behavior, dress, action. Unsophisticated. Transparent motives .
thestringpuller: ;;ud basic white girl
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=basic+white+girl | Basic white girl. Starbucks Uggs Lots of selfies. Dog pictures. I love you all over tumblr. Heart emojis. Leggings as pants. Forever 21 iPhone. Straightens hair ...
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: i can't not think of 'basic' without thinking of the seminal 'lohanthony' skit about 'all the basic bitches' etc.
thestringpuller: And not to "date" just to hit it and quit it after a fraternity party or something.
thestringpuller: L0L. That's understandable. Having gone to university with tons of basic white girl clones, they do know how to dress to visual stimulate sexual arousal. But that's about all their good for.
thestringpuller: they're*
assbot: Tosh.0 Web Redemption (lohanthony) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1nzdyTE )
BingoBoingo: Fucking Reddit tries to applied ethics https://archive.is/y34Ti
assbot: Stopping the asshole who constantly takes an offroad shortcut. : pettyrevenge ... ( http://bit.ly/1nzdEdL )
BingoBoingo pretty sure the 'Murican cookie cutter subdivisions are social experiments in the vein of 'vaults' in fallout
thestringpuller: coincidentally in fallout4 you start off in exactly that, a cookie cutter subdivision.
BingoBoingo was just commenting on the reddit applied ethics failure.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1387129 << just keeps sargeants from getting fat. wut.
assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 19:57:40; adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1387104 << incidentally the idf has signed its own death certificate; by the time i served, your sergeant had to drop and do the pushups together with you!
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1387128 << i swear to god this is the primary reason that 99% of "connected" folks use "password" as a password. "omg i got hacked, now i have something to do and something to talk about!"
assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 19:50:29; mircea_popescu: "dear blackmailer - please do! i was dying for attention anyway."
pete_dushenski: "they hacked me! MEEEEE!!!!1"
ben_vulpes: using "password" as a password should be mandatory.
ben_vulpes: "no sig, not me."
pete_dushenski: tell that to jurov for coinbr ;/
pete_dushenski: and what about your 'sig' ? should its password mandatorily be 'password' too ??!
jurov: coinbr has 2fa, soon mandatory
jurov: ur welcome to make your account public
pete_dushenski: jurov: i don't happen to agree with ben on this point. just poking you ;)
pete_dushenski: i don't happen to think that anything should be 'mandatory'
pete_dushenski: let idiots who want to be idiots get raped for the privilege. nothing wrong with that.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1386995 <<< doesn';t seem like a terribly good idea. if those people wanted to make it public, they would have. if they didn't, there's no standing for random outsider, phd or no phd, to ask for anything.
assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 10:41:28; kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1386872 < yes it is possible to do that
assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 22:58:50; thestringpuller: and basic white girls. black gus love basic white girls.
pete_dushenski: who would make a specified password mandatory anyhow ? and if everyone's stuck with the same one, don't you just have usernames left ?
jurov: ben_vulpes: or create a public mpex account, i'm sure that would be something to talk about
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu 'yes it is possible' to rate in private message is what i meant
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00055724 = 10.8662 BTC [-] {2}
ben_vulpes: that nobody's seen fit to implement gpg session auth is not my problem
ben_vulpes: i have, at least twice now.
pete_dushenski: www.nytimes.com/2016/01/26/arts/design/cambodias-new-angkor-museum-created-by-a-north-korean-art-factory.html
ben_vulpes: anyways, 'mandatory' is a bit of a joke.
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1nzgFLd )
ben_vulpes: dafuq, even taxes aren't mandatory around here.
pete_dushenski: what are you, danielpbarron ?
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1387163 << page ratio might even work for kindle
assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 21:15:01; ascii_butugychag: ^ anybody else who wanted kogge's mega-b00k
assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 21:38:09; mats: i was just in a meeting where bosses decided to downgrade ~10k windows 10 users to TLS 1.0 (from 1.2) because of a bug from patch tuesday
pete_dushenski: (or was this in logs ?)
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1387233 << ditto 'the fappening' ; now everyone gets to see your hot bod and you don't come off like a slut
assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 23:16:24; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1387128 << i swear to god this is the primary reason that 99% of "connected" folks use "password" as a password. "omg i got hacked, now i have something to do and something to talk about!"
pete_dushenski: which is pretty much the ideal balance of signals as far as ustards are concerned
pete_dushenski: super fucking meta, yes, but what else can we expect from 'trizantium' ?
mats: pete_dushenski: yeah, i slave for a private univ in boston.
pete_dushenski: !up ascii_butugychag
pete_dushenski: mats: aha.
ascii_butugychag: wtf is trizantium
pete_dushenski: byzantium redux
ascii_butugychag: traditionally that's ru
pete_dushenski: americans are unoriginal. wut.
assbot: Logged on 16-12-2015 18:06:03; mircea_popescu: trizantynes lol.
ascii_butugychag: mats: working as a reverser at last ?
mats: no
mats: the struggle continues
ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1387121 << the sc4mz0rz neglect to mention that the wins were in handicap games
assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 19:30:33; punkman: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35420579
ascii_butugychag: you and i can also win against world champion with nine stone handicap, quite possibly.
ascii_butugychag: srsly could they not find somebody who ~actually plays~ the motherfucking game, to write these articles ?!!
pete_dushenski: http://dpaste.com/1XS50VW.txt << my bitcoin-developed scamdar is dinging like a motherfucker from this 'glass' company's email. is there nowhere that sv retardation hasn't poisoned ? NO ONE GIVES A SHIT HOW MUCH YOU RAISED !!1 there, i said it. also, no, i won't "think tesla factory". at least not without thinking 'zil scam'. so fuck you and your dumb parallels.
pete_dushenski: "it's like the uber of ice cream shops". yea, i'm sure that's what the kid the the bicycle-mounted ice cream cooler is.
assbot: Butter behind consider.it, a voting platform claiming to have been used by NASA, says that the website isn't ready for "robust voting". That's after a three years in development. : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Scjn64 )
jurov: lol dunno why it reminded me to "they live" glasses
assbot: Farewell, Marvin Minsky (1927–2016)—Stephen Wolfram Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1ScjwGN )
ascii_butugychag: !s minsky
assbot: 26 results for 'minsky' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=minsky
pete_dushenski: but by... wolfram
pete_dushenski: your favourite, neh ? ;)
assbot: Cryptsy Co-founder and Josh Garza Co-conspirator is the ideas guy behind Bitcoin Classic : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1ScjT40 )
pete_dushenski: "…teacher pay in the United States seems more like something from Soviet-era Russia than 21st century America. Wages for teachers are low, egalitarian and not based on performance. We pay phys ed teachers about the same as math teachers despite the fact that math teachers have greater opportunities elsewhere in the economy. As a result, we have lots of excellent phys ed teachers but not nearly enough excellent math
pete_dushenski: chers…" << good for gladiators (us-style football), not so good for anything or anyone else.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Phys ed egalitarianism though backstops a tournament market. Not every PE teacher/coach can be Nick Saban, but they all want to be.
jurov: how do you pay teachers based on performance?
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: who's he again ?
BingoBoingo: It's a mystery
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Roll Tide
pete_dushenski still has to google
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag> you and i can also win against world champion with nine stone handicap, quite possibly. << i have. friendly game tho.
mircea_popescu: and looky, they gotta get the shareholders excited. remember how jobs built apple ?
ascii_butugychag: i thought mircea_popescu only played gurlz
pete_dushenski: nah, just things that start with the letter 'g'
mircea_popescu: well there's a lot of championships :D
assbot: Logged on 24-04-2015 22:00:56; mircea_popescu: i... had to leave.
pete_dushenski: !up ascii_butugychag
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21300 @ 0.00055318 = 11.7827 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Nick Saban is the person who has the job all PE teachers and coaches want.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: ANd this is because it turns out public schools really do the tournament market thing with some jobs.
pete_dushenski: did saban start as a hs teacher then ?
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Unsure. He trained for the same job market they did.
BingoBoingo: And occasially yes, HS teachers make the jump from public high school coaching to public university coaching and the long slog of trying to supplant Saban in the job market.
pete_dushenski: !up d_rebel_
thestringpuller imagaines elementary school PE teacher coaching the shit out of some 6 year olds playing football.
deedbot-: [Qntra] Oregon Standoff Supplanted In US Media By Celebrity Drama - http://qntra.net/2016/01/oregon-standoff-supplanted-in-us-media-by-celebrity-drama/
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: some college coaches rake in more than nfl coaches, neh ?
thestringpuller: Do NFL coaches have salary cap like players?
thestringpuller: nope. they don't have salary cap it seems.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Well there's a lot of NFL/College back and forth on all coaching positions. In the lower levels of the coaching heirarchy high school coaches often make it in.
thestringpuller: prolly why baseball is so skewed. lack of salary cap on players. well capitalized teams always beat out the underdogs, (hence the creation of moneyball)
BingoBoingo: Baseball is great because teams tend to suck at deciding who the player to offer the mega, instead of merely lucrative, contracts to.
thestringpuller: overpaid players underperforming. sounds a lot like CEOs.
BingoBoingo: Or getting injured.
BingoBoingo: Or the particular way they are so much better not really being worth the premium price in the larger scheme of things.
BingoBoingo: And if you get to an especially spendy team that isn't careful about curating their acquisitions like the Dodgers, you get the personality conflicts.
thestringpuller: github is getting ddosed
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53500 @ 0.00055927 = 29.9209 BTC [+] {3}
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: makes sense given what i've heard about the size of the hs market. http://www.businessinsider.com/allen-texas-largest-high-school-football-stadiums-2011-2 << 5yo and still bananas in scale. there are surely bigger venues today.
assbot: 10 ginormous high-school stadiums that were bought with tax dollars - Business Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/1OQtOrW )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.0005569 = 10.4697 BTC [-]
guruvan: yah - they're saying they're down on twitter thestringpuller
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Well, everything is bigger in Texas... except the dicks
trinque: ahem.
assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/17R50MT.txt )
pete_dushenski: anywho, i'm off to the races. chip chip cheerio mates!
BingoBoingo: trinque: I'll take that comment back if you can get together a freedom loving militia to liberate the Alamo. I'll need something to write about after Obola goes Janet Reno mass murder in Oregon Waco style.
trinque: lol, I have my doubts about the Alamo's defensibility
BingoBoingo: But its history shows that it is good for amplifying the effect of a defensive force in battle. Santa Anna might not have tried taking it if he had to pay out life insurance...
BingoBoingo: !Up HostFat
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88460 @ 0.00056072 = 49.6013 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: Roger Ver outraged when his friend Eric posts on r/bitcoin, but accidently admits he reads r/bitcoin instead of his r/btc cesspool. : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1OQv6mS )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49400 @ 0.00055649 = 27.4906 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell polarbeard It is very important that you come clean on whether your name is read PolarBeard or PolarBearD
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: Logged on 28-01-2016 01:14:19; BingoBoingo: ;;later tell polarbeard It is very important that you come clean on whether your name is read PolarBeard or PolarBearD
BingoBoingo: that's the far worse choice
polarbeard: that's why I chose it
BingoBoingo: a daemon for routing polar bears would be far more useful
polarbeard: too much charisma is dangerous
BingoBoingo: Lots of things are dangerous. A value underflow bug in a polar bear routing daemon though would be dangerous in the awesome way.
BingoBoingo: MAXINT-1 polar bears appearing in arbitrary places, etc
polarbeard: buffer underflow is the less exciting I ever heard
BingoBoingo: exiting depends not on the mechanics of the bug, but on what it does
BingoBoingo: Imagine you're in your basement, about to jack it when suddenly 9223372036854775806 polar bears spawn at you location. Not so less exciting anymore is it?
polarbeard: thanks, now I'm polarbored.
BingoBoingo: And whose failing is that? You could be doing literally anything right now. You could be reading, coding, or playing Natasha Henstridge but instead you are letting yourself be bored.
polarbeard: nice try Natasha.
mod6: ok asciilifeform
mod6: here we got, a few thins
mod6: *things
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 393.28, vol: 4458.55944830 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 394.82, vol: 5628.47803 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 393.44, vol: 8847.27119001 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 389.99, vol: 0.067 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 396.84616, vol: 29501.99640000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 393.79011, vol: 209.50503808 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 400.715199989, vol: 52.67371176 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: 395.657700093
mod6: man
mod6: ok.
mod6: so http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-December/000185.html << sig doesnt use the correct nomenclature.
assbot: [BTC-dev] Programmable Version Strings. ... ( http://bit.ly/1mdvdyY )
assbot: [BTC-dev] Malleus Mikehearnificarum. ... ( http://bit.ly/1K7GR40 )
asciilifeform: mod6: this one looks like it got mangled
asciilifeform: by the ml
asciilifeform: can rename
mod6: I just noticed this now. And the sig verifies just fine, but yah. mis-named in the email so that threw me off a bit.
mod6: anyway... thats just an fyi
mod6: but moving on to your tinyscheme stuff...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54250 @ 0.00055657 = 30.1939 BTC [+] {3}
mod6: so yes, if I drop those into my patches dir with a full sync with V [v99997] it does indeed break my seal validation.
asciilifeform: gonna have to rebake these
asciilifeform: as i suspected
mod6: and its because of one line that i'm not being strict enough with my regex.
mod6: i have fixed it in my forthcoming v99996, and this shouldn't be a problem any more.
mod6: however, yeah, as you noted, your patches dont press out probably quite right because of the timestamps
mod6: but I have this for you to review:
asciilifeform: much barf
mod6: but, the good news is, other than those little hiccups, i think it would have been fine.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1387144 >>>>>> ask and thou shall receive: http://imgur.com/a/TEptA
assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 20:23:36; mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag put a pic up ?
assbot: ads from volkicher beobachter - Album on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1JGu0vb )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mod6: so im highly tempted to actually just rename the seal files in the mirror for Programmable Version Strings and the Malleus Mikehearnificarum, but will resist. you should probably just re-post as annoying as that may seem.
asciilifeform: mod6: just these ?
asciilifeform: iirc there were many other mangled names
mod6: it's just those two sig files ya.
mod6: there are mangled names in just about every email for se
mod6: here's what I had to do to each:
mod6: mv asciilifeform_malleus_mikehearnificarum.vpatch.sig asciilifeform_malleus_mikehearnificarum.vpatch.asciilifeform.sig
mod6: mv asciilifeform-programmable-versionstring.vpatch.sig asciilifeform-programmable-versionstring.vpatch.asciilifeform.sig
mod6: fromthe emails:
mod6: Name: asciilifeform_malleus_mikehearnificarum.vpatch.sig
mod6: Name: asciilifeform-programmable-versionstring.vpatch.sig
mod6: yup np. all of your others have been 100% accurate.
asciilifeform: ok latest 2 should work
asciilifeform: (i assume this is being eaten by a script somewhere..)
assbot: [BTC-dev] (repost for mod6) Programmable Version Strings. ... ( http://bit.ly/1PTUaHd )
mod6 looks
asciilifeform: OH FOR FUCKS SAKE turdatron WON'T ACCEPT the naming convention
asciilifeform: i am ~very~ tired of this.
mod6: yeah, you're right. it hosed it.
mod6: thought it was just a oversight or something.
mod6: changing the signature file name doesn't actually change the signature - but i was just hoping to get 'em both in the ML for posterity
mod6: maybe i should just fix the names in the V Mirror @ http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/seals
assbot: Index of /v/seals ... ( http://bit.ly/1JGvLbu )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29584 @ 0.00055963 = 16.5561 BTC [+] {2}
mod6: well, we've got a well-named sig for malleus
mod6: you wanna roll the dice and see if you can get one through for PVS that isn't mangled? or should we wait for jurov?
mod6: in the mean time i'll update the mirror with the good sig from malleus
mod6: haha, it's like trying to get one through the golies legs.
mod6: *goalies
jurov: waitwhat
jurov: asciilifeform: did you submit the same clearsigned text twice?
jurov: if so, it was eaten as antispam protection (to prevent someone taking any existing clearsigned doc and repeatedly sending it $maxint times)
jurov: when reposting, you must change the text and clearsign again
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 105900 @ 0.00055413 = 58.6824 BTC [-] {4}
jurov: i'm fully aware it's infuriating but i don't see a way how to prevent repeated posting of stuff that changes only by unsigned data (like, attachment names)
assbot: Logged on 28-01-2016 02:00:27; mod6: and its because of one line that i'm not being strict enough with my regex.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dude looks so out of place in the desert the only thing that conjures up is "nigga gettin' killed".
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-01-2016#1387434 << this is not so hot, we'll end up carrying water by hand for a few feet ?
assbot: Logged on 28-01-2016 02:18:38; mod6: maybe i should just fix the names in the V Mirror @ http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/seals
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 123079 @ 0.00055373 = 68.1525 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47300 @ 0.00055052 = 26.0396 BTC [-]
mod6: mircea_popescu: yah, im more inclined to just wait until a new sig, properly named is sent.
mod6: jurov: the original emails -- either asciilifeform named them incorrectly or the email server munged the names.
assbot: [BTC-dev] Programmable Version Strings. ... ( http://bit.ly/1mdvdyY )
mod6: and
assbot: [BTC-dev] Malleus Mikehearnificarum. ... ( http://bit.ly/1K7GR40 )
mod6: they should have signatures that are named as follows:
mod6: asciilifeform-programmable-versionstring.vpatch.asciilifeform.sig
mod6: asciilifeform_malleus_mikehearnificarum.vpatch.asciilifeform.sig
mod6: but these didn't come through like that. it's missing the 'asciilifeform' between 'vpatch' and 'sig'.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20050 @ 0.00055323 = 11.0923 BTC [+] {2}
mod6: im not sure what happend just now with the re-submits that alf did, one made it through ok, the other did not.
mod6: and again, i have no way of telling if they were named correctly in the first place or it was the ML. but... its certainly something that should be in a log file or something, you may wanna have a look.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40728 @ 0.00056087 = 22.8431 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52472 @ 0.00056555 = 29.6755 BTC [+]
mod6: dang
mod6: man.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 105199 @ 0.00054954 = 57.8111 BTC [-] {5}
funkenstein_: greetings logaholics
funkenstein_: i came across some light reading which might be enjoyed by Orlovians http://www.feasta.org/2012/06/17/trade-off-financial-system-supply-chain-cross-contagion-a-study-in-global-systemic-collapse/
assbot: Trade Off: Financial system supply-chain cross contagion – a study in global systemic collapse | Feasta ... ( http://bit.ly/1OQHp2m )
funkenstein_: anyway looking forward to banging my head against the wall figuring out what shiva is supposed to do
mircea_popescu: please to bang against wall.
mircea_popescu: who has persian rugs in the bathroom ? romanians, that's who!
asciilifeform: mod6: i sent the first 'resend' by mistake with the old files. then again with new, but this was eaten.
mod6: ah.
mod6: ok
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56350 @ 0.00055375 = 31.2038 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72694 @ 0.00054859 = 39.8792 BTC [-] {4}
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 10.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Donald Trump gets Republican Nomination - http://bitbet.us/bet/1206/donald-trump-gets-republican-nomination/#b81
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 230 @ 0.00649981 = 1.495 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57250 @ 0.00054783 = 31.3633 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94306 @ 0.00054783 = 51.6637 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51596 @ 0.00055702 = 28.74 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: Ah, 10 BTC was still not enough to make Trump the BitBet favorite nominee over Rubio.
BingoBoingo: And we all of course know that the BitBet favorite is still the real favorite in spite of all protests to the contrary
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