Results 1 ... 50 found in asciilifeform for 'urbit'
asciilifeform: punkman: iirc d00d is infamous urbitist in recent yrs
verisimilitude: I may add a small paragraph mentioning Urbit later still.
verisimilitude: I considered mentioning Urbit, yes.
asciilifeform: gregory2: observe that pestronics neither promise nor deliver on what asciilifeform suspects was primary appeal of urbitism, 'hey, wanna be a little fuhrer? a gauleiter in our reich? have some serfs under yer boot?' which is 1 reason why you won't be reading about pest on yc, nyt, shitcoin-magazine.
gregory2: I did not say that Urbit was appealing, but that Pest might deliver on some of the original expectations of Urbit's following.
dulapbot: (trilema) 2017-06-02 asciilifeform: ( mr. mold advocated for 'patchwork states', which were -- best as anyone could tell -- a miraculous resurrection of 16th c. italian provinces, somehow balanced in mutual non-nukeability . but in 'urbit' he implemented a reich, with central control and total dependence on the 'palace' )
dulapbot: (trilema) 2017-06-02 asciilifeform: my least nonsensical hypothesis is that thiel funded urbit (yes) to make a half-hearted play at 'embrace&extinguish'ing bitcoin
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-04-24 12:46:24 asciilifeform: gregory2: the urbit people from the very start had very deliberate hierarchical wank, sold 'fiefdoms', naturally progressed into a shitcoin
asciilifeform: gregory2: the urbit people from the very start had very deliberate hierarchical wank, sold 'fiefdoms', naturally progressed into a shitcoin
dulapbot: (trilema) 2019-01-14 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in darkest lulzafrica, 'Today we’re happy to announce that Urbit’s address space, now called Azimuth, is live on the Ethereum blockchain... We want Urbit to be a reliable, durable, permanent computer that’s simple to use. Today Urbit is still a prototype, not a consumer product. But we’re making great progress'
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-04-24 12:42:44 asciilifeform: gregory2: dunno what you think it has to do with the urbit 'vision' and its centralized hell
gregory2: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-24#1098665 << one of Urbit's main features is an IRC-like system. also, Urbit tried to solve the problem of secure routing.
asciilifeform: gregory2: dunno what you think it has to do with the urbit 'vision' and its centralized hell
gregory2: Pest is like a small slice of Urbit's vision done correctly.
adlai: I never found it much good for "I wonder whether TMSR has precedent and verdict about XYZ"; occasionally (e.g. when I searched for 'urbit') there is an easy hit, and occasionally, neologisms make the search hopeless.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-26#1089221 << notbad; lulzy oblig. litter in the comments re urbitism and even ye olde picolisp. sad how folx can run 100% in circles for decade+ and not ever show slightest symptoms of noticing.
asciilifeform: meanwhile in agitprop by old, tired lulzcows.
asciilifeform still curious re details of yarvin's surrender of 'urbit'
signpost: here, in urbit, elsewhere, the neofeudal larping fails.
verisimilitude: Urbit's just running on top of GNU/Linux currently.
verisimilitude: That resembles current Urbit more than what I figured Loper-OS was.
verisimilitude: For working on Urbit so long, it's surprisingly unoriginal.
verisimilitude: On the topic of Urbit, I was befuddled to see it and some of my work in a paper from 1978.
thestringpuller: yea each "urbit" will have to run with interpreter code dependent on platform along with the pill containing the "log"
asciilifeform: thread-oblig. asciilifeform's party line re urbitism .
asciilifeform: aa, the urbit people.
snsabot: (trilema) 2016-08-18 asciilifeform: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/urbit-dev/utp3H7F78so/Dt24fpiT3xcJ << part of it
verisimilitude: Conveniently, I've never seen any Urbit material give poor Backus any credit.
verisimilitude: That paper from 1978 describes a better form of what Urbit is, which makes it queer that Urbit supposedly had so much thought poured into it.
verisimilitude: For any faults, Urbit certainly has some good ideas behind it, and not everything to do with it is fundamentally flawed.
verisimilitude: One of my bigger issues with Urbit, sans the stupid Nock language which exists solely to be an ostensible bottom and then jettisoned away, is how it doesn't abandon ASCII.
verisimilitude: The martian would be using Urbit for such, right?
verisimilitude: It's an obscenity, how most computer systems are treating the underlying machine code as Urbit does Nock, i.e. that they just ignore it most of the time, yet defend it.
asciilifeform: sal; or the earlier, similar item in urbit; and other 'it's decentralized(tm) but really here's this magic piece i, fuhrer, control' crackpotteries.
adlai: haskellism, until urbit condita fuerat
verisimilitude: I found the explanations to be decent, and entirely unlike the Urbit model and its issues, which are criticized in the ultimate piece therein.
asciilifeform: the author, like other urbitists, seemed to have 0 awareness that the low-level model is unphysical.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: iirc have seen before , was linked by a commenter on 1 of my pieces re urbitism
adlai: asciilifeform: that's the thing, dude still not only has an account there, but even 'pro', i.e. paid; for all i know, kept the skynet repo, only made it private to go full-urbit
adlai: asciilifeform: it is quite the boojum! not a forked repo, as shinohai observed. appears to be a 'mirror' of some other drunkard's masamunic urbit. I didn't try reading the src yet, although the human-readable markdown seems to have been written by g_l or perhaps some brotha-fromanutha-mutha.
snsabot: Logged on 2020-05-26 04:32:21 theRealHashBrown: What really made me lost my respect for Urbit was when the team revised the specification of the foundational assembly-language Nock.
theRealHashBrown: The whole point of Urbit, what justified the entire formula-reduction approach, was the promise that their assembly-language would never change.
theRealHashBrown: What really made me lost my respect for Urbit was when the team revised the specification of the foundational assembly-language Nock.
theRealHashBrown: I will never forget this part: "if you want ghetto, visit 'Urbit'."