asciilifeform: (new dump engine...)
asciilifeform: 'Bit Drop project' << aha the old tired african chumpatron. lay siege to some pisshole, make 'international' stink, food is dropped from bombers. drive off would-be eaters at gunpoint, collect the crates, sell.
asciilifeform: what continues to astound me is the meticulously tended garden of a parallel universe where this discussion isn't happening, a 'computer' means 'wintel box', 'bitcoin economy' means 'coinbase' and 'bitpay', etc. - carries on just so. with the glossy magazines, free newspaper publicity 'so plentiful they can eat with their arses', etc.
asciilifeform: but, to complete the metaphor - it ever hopes to birth the mythical beast that will save it.
asciilifeform: mandatory 'V2V' << if the bureaucrats simply wanted to enable self-driving cars in dense city traffic, optimized stoplights, etc. - they could mandate a simple radio beacon in tail light lamps (screw-in replacement.) doubt there'd be mass protest - it'd be a machine-vision-friendly version of the light cars are traditionally required to emit anyway. but (no prizes for guessing) - 'V2V' is not about automatic car
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: magnet company << 'bucky-balls'
asciilifeform: echo on impedance mismatch - basic physic
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: with simple tools, one can theoretically make everything (with possible exception of lead screws) for nicer set
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: herr vanunu: archetypical example of 'can have problems'
asciilifeform: normally when people contemplate 'superintelligent' whatevers, if they use their imagination well, the machine is to us as we are to the bacterium
asciilifeform: if you (org.) want to keep secrets, the menu is roughly: a) employ incorruptible fanatics b) keep all henchmen incommunicado, in 'шарашка' prisons c) there is no 'c.' tertium non datur.
asciilifeform would ask for the ads, if he had any reason to think that some weirdo would bid enough right away to recompense for 'my site ever had ads'
asciilifeform: but we were contemplating specifically mental computation.
asciilifeform: which is not to say that one could not, hypothetically, compute a numerical solution to something-or-other by tossing balls.
asciilifeform: decimation: catch a ball << bad example. when high-speed photography appeared, people learned that man (and dog, and circus lion) do not catch balls by computing integrals, but through 'bang-bang correction'
asciilifeform: bats_cd03: that is - the implicit endorsement of the pseudoscientific concept of 'random'
asciilifeform: which brings us back to >> I suspect that the number of USG employees who understand money is too small to coordinate a mass bitcoin theft << does one need to understand the structure of Au atom to plunder gold coins ?
asciilifeform: !s chumpatronics
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what fascinates me is how many people whine about 'slow' without saying precisely why they want 'fast', and while remaining entirely innocent of basic kindergarten-level gotchas like 'lamport's clock'
asciilifeform: re: electronic warfare article - the conflation between garden-variety signal jamming and 'emp' circuit zapping is inexcusable and a classic leper's bell of journalistic hacks
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: how is the 'impressions' figure generated ?
asciilifeform: the russian 'pinnockio' - 'буратино' - is an almost totally different thing. a kind of parable about chumpatronics (esp. in the animated musical rendition)
asciilifeform: complete with aliens, death rays.
asciilifeform: herr handle, incidentally, is employed as (not a secret) a lawyer.
asciilifeform: aha the olympics thread
asciilifeform: gedankenexperiment time. go to your workbench, pick some precious, rare, instrument - and contemplate what 'most people' would do with it.
asciilifeform: surely someone is campaigning to have meth brought back to the masses.
asciilifeform would love to buy a (yes) bowdlerized compendium of taleb, with all the annoying 'i'm the strongest man alive, grasp my throbbing cock!' crapola snipped out.
asciilifeform: example: pediwik page for nsa 'type a' - gone.
asciilifeform pictured 'complaint' wankers, rather than nsa
asciilifeform: he confuses the shoddy nature of modern computers with bitcoin as a technology, which can and will exist independently from today's crap-o-soft << this.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/in-which-we-discuss-datskovskiys-discussion-of-mpex << here i think
asciilifeform: BlueMeanie4: 100% have elevators. 'disability act' compliance.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu maryland excepted. i have nfi idea what it's even for << it's where they keep ft. meade. (largest employer, largest consumer of mains current, per public stats.)
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: ottoman empire << 'the sultans' (n. barber)
asciilifeform: or simply need to 'have problems'
asciilifeform: van allen belt, incidentally, is what becomes the 'dynamo' for a nuke's emp burst.
asciilifeform: now he's a living 'tilt mode' and campaigns for... unionizing programmers ?
asciilifeform: how to maintain full employment on the cheap? how about jacqueries.
asciilifeform: general principle - if usa cannot maintain full employment for career trigger-pullers - collapsatron revvs up in record time.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: re: article: taiwan is an interesting case of what i like to call a 'refrigerator' - pocket of thermodynamic dis-equilibrium kept going via outside energy (in its case - u.s. imperial navy)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: re: electrochemical machining: if you do the obvious thing and run it backwards, you can deposit metal. but you'll have to temper the finished product.
asciilifeform: collapse of mega-empires and even pre-collapse deterioration of industrial base tends to favour a return to classical arms, however.
asciilifeform: folks who spend a good deal of time at target practice complain about the fouling (no jacket.)
asciilifeform: the .22 (for non-usians, the familiar 'olympic' caliber) rifle is also explained by cost: roughly 1/2 - 1/3 of a 'proper' m16. low pressure round, can use garbage metals.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: we had actual program-writing (os, compiler, busloads of data structure crud, etc.)
asciilifeform: he expects no impact to the satellites planned design life of 14 years.... he says. We put enough fuel onboard to pretty much fire those thrusters continuously. << 'folks who won't do arithmetic are doomed to talk nonsense' (j. mccarthy)
asciilifeform: electricity is still sold by the watt << most humans don't have 1000 amp feeds, hence 'no hurry' observation.
asciilifeform: 'check out our other installments, such as Balanced Trinary Computing and Electrically Induced REM Sleep.'
asciilifeform: if clever, emplace a magnetic field of the appropriate geometry around the fluid intake/return channels, so it is propelled entirely electrically. if even more clever, emplace a system in the reservoir to re-separate the metal from the electrolyte.
asciilifeform: on account of your electrolyte being, by definition, conductive - you can pump it electrohydrodynamically.
asciilifeform: these unfortunates, who, one can surmise, don't know russian, neglected the detail that one must pump the electrolyte.
asciilifeform: the students are asked to simply memorize the book of, e.g, organic reactions.
asciilifeform: the computer has no idea what, if anything, was actually cut - and hwo
asciilifeform: turing-complete << this brings up another interesting observation - none of today's machine tools give the computer any feedback, beyond slide end-stop sensors
asciilifeform: decimation: g-code << it's just simple coordinate motions, with some commands to specify tool changes, splines, etc. what would you have them use?
asciilifeform: try this with an ordinary drill! (without annealing to destroy knife's temper)
asciilifeform: it is more or less impossible to anneal (and, opposite, harden) all but the smallest objects in 'jungle conditions'
asciilifeform: if you're fine with waiting a year for the, e.g., pistol, draw 1 amp instead of 1000.
asciilifeform: diode logic is a complete logic, incidentally.
asciilifeform 'east cost corporations' << had the distinct impression that most of the people here never had to walk the u.s. большая зона
asciilifeform: '
like a refugee from very rural Pakistan who gets relocated to Oslo, Norway, and still thinks that he could make better food if he were only allowed to light a fire in his living room instead of using that complex electric stove. (This is a real news item. Every now and then, landlords discover indoor fireplaces and occasionally the newbies to civilization burn down the building.)' (herr naggum)
asciilifeform: if we actually get the tech for rural non-simpletonism (keep own pigs -and- bake own 14nm cores) - we'll learn
asciilifeform wonders when ocean fiber reamplifiers will begin to include a few kg of trotyl with motion fuse, for meddlesome buggers
asciilifeform: ^ beautiful example of u.s. media hush campaign. vanished entirely from nearly everywhere within days of first mention.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to fully visualize the logical conclusion of that gedankenexperiment, picture if one could subsist entirely on the output of a 'desktop garden' under a fluorescent lamp.
asciilifeform: DERP << still waiting for some muppet to start a company selling bottled piss or the like, and labeled 'bitcoin'
asciilifeform: 'Lithium ion batteries blog up if they get wet or bumped.'
asciilifeform: like the doomed office plankton jumping from a burning skyscraper, they don't much care where they land.
asciilifeform: implementation - an exercise for alert reader.
asciilifeform like probably everyone else, contemplated the mathematical curio of a 'panic key' that irreversibly destroys coin (in a hypothetical 'btc 2.0' apparatus, naturally)
asciilifeform: but if you compare folks carrying on in exactly the same profession, the pay is similar
asciilifeform: most of the contractors are hired for a fixed salary, agreed on before-hand, as if they were normal employees
asciilifeform: even today, buying the kind of insurance available for a token fee to civil service folks or employees of large concerns - costs 1-2k usd / month if you do it 'as a human'
asciilifeform: 'contractor' here means actual contractor, vs. proper full time employees of private firms who bid on federal contracts
asciilifeform: proper employees, that is. contractors get zip.
asciilifeform: there is a third option, that i'll bring up for completeness because it appears to be very popular these days: piss in a paper cup, write 'beer' on it, drink up.
asciilifeform: more recent example - ussr, collectivization
asciilifeform: MolokoDeck: probably simplest solution: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1490 -- but can be trivially improved on.
asciilifeform: let's give example from outside of cryptology
asciilifeform: this is almost convincing re: the impossibility argument. but suppose the goods isn't a generic rsa pill, but something more akin to nuke. that is, oppenheimer & friends didn't run off to an island and form own kingdom, because their 'jewel' required astonishing resources to put into action (industrial empire) and not very useful on their own, on paper
asciilifeform: so, continuing with this lemma, the 'guard' is an impossibility because, were he to exist, he could trivially order his supposed superiors to disappear forever up their own arses, should he wish this?
asciilifeform wasn't there, didn't personally boot carter - or gorbached - from the goodies vault. but tale is plausible. compartmentalization of 'fun secrets' is generally easy because of the miniscule number of qualified thieves - that is, folks who apprehend the true value of the goods.
asciilifeform: 'lizard king' perhaps should be understood as 'set of remaining competent commanders'
asciilifeform: jurov: perhaps i implied that a literal 'lizard king' lives. this is not a necessary hypothesis for a cryptologically-strong usa
asciilifeform: i bet that eth dump could've bought some talent.
asciilifeform: re: user interface << a 'clean ui' doesn't mean what people often think it means. e.g. a lathe has three knobs. what could be simpler. and yet.
asciilifeform: decimation: it's pretty simple, at least with regard to the basics
asciilifeform: 'The debtors, of course, had no way of knowing who actually owned the debt. Nor did they have any reason to suspect that they might be paying thieves. They were simply being told they owed the money and had to pay.' << why should the wretches care - which thief ?
asciilifeform: (hypothesis, straight from My Arse (TM) : usg 'spent' S SR coins to buy kS 'clean' coin, for some positive k > 1. these were dripped into 'eth' and are now being dumped.)
asciilifeform: everybody dumps his doughnuts, cops and rioters alike
asciilifeform: re: microwave blaster: raytheon's pumps out 95 GHz. --> ~3mm wavelength. don't have pinholes in the suit.
asciilifeform: 'nexus 10', for example, is just right for reading vintage djvu scans of 'наука и жизнь'.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the chess example, or its life version with debt, etc. is really a play on 'hilbert's hotel'
asciilifeform: that is, it doesn't matter that the well is -EV if expendable slaves are pumping by hand
asciilifeform: e.g. oil well that needs more joules to pump than you get out - is abandoned
asciilifeform: chetty: cave man (or airplane man) is not an automatic born champion at saying 'no'. which is how we got 'the state' to begin with.
asciilifeform: ers tells which key was pressed... Its corrosion resistant, impervious to the environment, and yes it will work underwater.'
asciilifeform: 'This extremely rare type of keyswitch actually presses a fake switch, similar to the Cherry MX Blue jumping bean mechanism... Underneath each row of keys is an isolated transfer bar, which the sliding beans strike. On each end of the bar, a transducer (i.e. microphone or piezo) picks up the sound of the strike transmitted through the bar. The difference in arrival time between the two transduc
asciilifeform: attached, stolen coin << i've long suspected that chumpatrons like eth are 'anmesty funnels' for such stashes
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hard to see who else could have reanimated the corpse of the 2011-era human wave chump attacks
asciilifeform wonders if the dump wasn't the work of an impatient man, but of a thinking one - trying to induce 'stress fracture' (what's the correct term?) via stampede effects
asciilifeform: so isn't it rather like saying 'volcano was a major point of support for pompei until day x'
asciilifeform: impatience - an almost inescapable attribute of any dumb criminal
asciilifeform: whether you want to imitate - or diverge from - a sample corpus, depends naturally on application.
asciilifeform: http://hbpub.vo.llnwd.net/o16/video/olmk/holt/greenwald/NoPlaceToHide-Documents-Uncompressed.pdf << p. 145-147, list of embassies in nyc and wash. dc with type of bug used. betcha not one has been pulled.
asciilifeform: 'We have been forced to remove the SolidEdge 3D drawings due to a company in China attempting to copy our product line. We regret the inconvenience this may cause our legitimate customers, but we cannot allow the 30+ years worth of design invested in our parts to be used by unscrupulous knock-off artists who are trying to put us out of business.' - sherline products inc. (a machine tool maker)
asciilifeform: 'According to the Coreboot Wiki, most of the X200 components should be working except for the dock, digitizer, and the need to be using binary blobs for the VGA option ROM, CPU microcode, and ME/EC.'
asciilifeform: pankkake: trying to crack the enigma of why the chumpers bought eth by the truckload but not one of them took mp's 'short' delivery deal.
asciilifeform: they want in. on the cheap. hence, chumpatron enlisted to drive down price.
asciilifeform: 'They tend to show up late at parties because they figure they can always steal the cake anyway, so why bother go early ? Let the suckers figure out first - on their own dime - where the good cakes are, then just swoop in and collect... This means the only way they can get in is if you let them get in. Dont let them get in for cheap - they have no business here.' (mp's http://trilema.com/2014/people-us-dollar
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: very 'temperate' year here, as well.
asciilifeform: ad contents was heavily geared to the stuff aging 'imperial age' americans with intellectual inclinations might buy. primarily - whiskey.
asciilifeform: retardtalk is run by expert chumpatronic engineers.
asciilifeform: an improvement, even if genuine, will be condemned to grind out a meagre existence as an altchain.
asciilifeform: because the burden of proof on anybody pushing a 'pheature' to demonstrate that he isn't slipping in a semantic - or syntactic - pwnh0le - is just about impossible to meet.
asciilifeform: '...people who hate parts of the language, some of the people who created it, or some of the process that created it, who hold personal grudges they cannot let go of, or who think the best way to "improve" the language is to stay in the community and spread negativity and tear down everybody else's enthusiasm, do just that. No improvement at all will take place when such negativity rules because everybody is af
asciilifeform: (example of optical 'knapsack packer', posted here some time ago)
asciilifeform: nothing so spicy. just the notion that analogue computing could come back (it was a gloriously interesting field back in the day, dust off some books, fun)
ascii_at_beach: either this, or chumps are 'renewable resource' to the extent that we should literally stoke furnaces with them
ascii_at_beach: likewise 'index card plus btcd' is a more compact, and therefore intimately -understandable- system than a software package in the usual sense
ascii_at_beach does not like the idea of a 'library of alexandria' that has a burnable component
ascii_at_beach still favours the recipe of 'bitcoind 0.6 + no more than ten lines of perl' for complete scheme
ascii_at_beach likes the idea of system that can be brought into being simply by passing around an index card with some simple rules, for all time
ascii_at_beach: or at the very least, hierarchically increasing cost with Importance
ascii_at_beach: at any rate, for a registry of Important Things, you want highest cost possible short of making it a null set
ascii_at_beach: CINCOMPAC FUBAR SNAFU
ascii_at_beach: expensive, for a registry of Important Things™ is: good
ascii_at_beach: BingoBoingo: It can tolerate forms of data Bitcoin won't << you can stuff arbitrary octets in the blockchain. it will simply cost you.
ascii_at_beach: not like the next mega-empire that gets tired of living will study 'prior art.'
asciilifeform: 'What bothers me is that you are saying what the agency wants us to believe -- they used to be great, but these days they have trouble reading the newspaper, the Internet is too complicated for them, there is so much traffic and they can't find what they want. It may be true, but it is what they have been 'saying' for years. It's convenient for N.S.A. to have its targets believe it is in trouble.'
asciilifeform has pretty much the entire numpad programmed as emacs knobs of one kind or another
asciilifeform: (emphasis on 'obvious')
asciilifeform: fluffypony: no market implications if you sink the usd into mining vs. buying.
asciilifeform: (and possibly tempted to change professions)
asciilifeform: decimation: nitpick. usg-blessed safes are optimized for tamper-evidence, rather than absolute strength
asciilifeform: but would you assume burglars will line up to try, simply by virtue of you having wished it?
asciilifeform: RebeccaBitcoin: will it get stolen within 90 days << this is an uncommonly poor tactic (yes, popular in the 'computer insecurity' business, but it sucks still) - would you test, say, a door lock this way?
asciilifeform: also brings to mind another topic that never quite comes up - that 'cost of living' is not really a complete picture of things
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo surprised loper lacks adbox considering it competes with trilema as most read << wait wat. what'd be the point
asciilifeform: (no, won't happen in reality. i've seen modern crt dropped on concrete, no implosion)
asciilifeform does not practice divination with lamp, won't say when 'soon' is
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: her stretcher dildo << it's a 'lava lamp' (decorative gizmo, small electric lamp heats a vessel of wax mixed in such a way that colourful shapes float about inside)
asciilifeform: the odd thing here, the firing range folks are traditionally - empiricists.
asciilifeform: recall how mircea_popescu once posted some examples of spam where the spam-meister forgot to actually fill in the spam-generator 'mad libs' and posted raw form ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: re: 'broken hearted' article: what a psychiatric marvel. note where he bashes his gov. for not confiscating privately owned small arms quickly enough for his liking - and then goes on with some crap about 'rage is necessary component... stop being well-behaved'
asciilifeform: good example of the sort of people orlov associates with...
asciilifeform: in complete silence
asciilifeform: so there we sat, contemplating how, generally, the bigger calibre of cannon, the louder the report. and mircea_popescu woke up, reminded us how he vapourized enemies with old trusted Nd:Yag laser.
asciilifeform: not so simple re: 'wtf should poor wretch do'
asciilifeform: simple in that it succeeds in 'stretching the owl over the globe' and fitting observables to hypothesis
asciilifeform: mpex-sat launched?
asciilifeform: apparently our grasp of physics was correct in that it is impossible to communicate across parallel universes. and reddit is such a universe...
asciilifeform: one more method. find and disassemble a computer. inside, search for an ic with quad flatpack (e.g. TQFP-44) package. lay tube sideways across (unpowered) pins, count pins. look up their pitch (typically 0.5mm).
asciilifeform: '...Plaintiffs Proposed Complaint includes a letter directed to Edward Snowden, in which Plaintiff seeks damages for any and all actions that
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: that's where the machines live now. not ideal, from standpoint of humidity & temperature, but practical.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: important question to answer before achieving world domination
asciilifeform: (99% facts, 1% 'anyone who demos a 'tempest' setup is both con artist and criminal, plug yer ears')
asciilifeform: http://www.tscm.com/TSCM101tempest.html << masterful propaganda.
asciilifeform: 'One glimpse at the following chart of Russian stocks today and one wonders if the West needed to arrest the gains that their "costs" had imposed...'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: here's one gedanken-atm. it's inside a concrete block, cannot be repaired, etc. 50kg of thermite if disturbed. then, simply leave it somewhere reasonable. (network connectivity an exercise for alert reader.)
asciilifeform: thought being, not everything that's in obvious decomposition can be shorted
asciilifeform: is the presumption that the 'saecular authorities' will not prosecute the theft of a btc atm ?
asciilifeform: 'impression' ~= page load ?
asciilifeform: recently saw the very same ad on uni. campus. apparently they're still testing.
asciilifeform was once offered ~1k usd by employer to take ketamine, somehow never got around to it
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: There once was a man named Ken Thompson / Who had a peculiar Johnson; / For park it he will / In no hole he 'adn't drilled; / Lest the hole tap a thread that's unwholesome.
asciilifeform: sheath, you have traded places with the *pederasti* - now you are sighted, and they are blind. Now you no longer struggle in the darkness with something foggy and omnipresent, which softly absorbs every blow - instead, you can now clearly make out a pathetic piece of shit, which has smeared itself over the most important part - the eyes - of a large and powerful man. You can now deal blows, directly seeing the
asciilifeform: 'Learn not to participate - to the point of utter impossibility of meeting the enemy 'half-way' - and you will see that inside there lay a very useful mindfuck: in learning to 'nonparticipate,' in fact you drew out your *will* from its scabbard - to which it seemed so securely riveted by your upbringing. The appearance of *your will* changes everything and forever. With your own will slipped into your boot knife
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: presumably your employees are in 'the black' though. otherwise you'd refer to them as volunteers...
asciilifeform: decimation: as with any professional-grade chumpatronic circuit.
asciilifeform: 7000 - that's grandmaster level chumpatronics
asciilifeform: i.e. were they plugged because they insisted on following the 'letter of the law' re: their duties, with complicity of their own brass
asciilifeform: any earnest attempted ban would presumably include all blockchain-based tech
asciilifeform: turns out, he writes, one of the most reliable ways to get bitten by such an animal is to give it the impression of attempting to feed it
asciilifeform: see mircea_popescu's skyscraper example.
asciilifeform: 'complexity is irreducible now, the only possible kind of man is now the stamp collector'
asciilifeform: DreadKnight: things are getting more and more complex now, it takes more work and time << the motto of the 20th c. intellectual impostor class, in a nutshell.
asciilifeform: plus 1980s computer.
asciilifeform: stamp collectors.
asciilifeform: cern, other 'strong force' shenanigans are a good example of 'chinese' scholastiwank. the people involved - entirely uninterested in systematization of knowledge, much less practical use
asciilifeform sees 20th c. physicists as largely imposters, who 'the good parts - not original, the original parts - not good'
asciilifeform: 'Mathematicians think in symbols, physicists in objects, philosophers in concepts, geometers in images, jurists in constructs, logicians in operators, writers in impressions, and idiots in words.'
asciilifeform wonders if any american state has tried bumping off convicts with cocaine
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this was always a puzzle to me - why don't they simply shoot them ?
asciilifeform: http://kyristor.com << dumped my ancient derpage in there for archaeologists to derp on.
asciilifeform: and, in many (most?) states, adverse possession is virtually impossible to pull off (title holder must be aware of the squatter and do nothing for xx years)
asciilifeform: tourist noticed a puff of smoke coming from a tree stump.
asciilifeform: e.g. diplomats, military attaches, competitive athletes
asciilifeform: my understanding is, the most one can hope for, if you aren't chtulhu, assanger, mircea_popescu - when the wagen comes, is to die with honour, without implicating other partizans
asciilifeform: this is why i simply don't get people who continue to think of their relationship with the u.s. court system in legal, rather than military, terms.
asciilifeform: in my simple orkish minds, anything i have to switch off a filter to see is spam. but hey, who has never spammed.
asciilifeform: the original u.s. chumpatron.
asciilifeform: 'chromebook' can be turned into a perfectly normal machine (diassemble, remove eeprom write protect jumper, write in an ordinary linux, e.g. 'gentoo')
asciilifeform: http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/07/24/nuanced-view-needed-to-understand-millennial-homebuying-behavior << mega-lol. chumpatron is sputtering, chumpatronic engineers desperate.
asciilifeform: 'Sector repair completed:port=0, LBA=0x0.'
asciilifeform: swamp land of dc << example. moved to new place recently. even the garden shed has... air conditioner.
asciilifeform: the whole dc region is a gigantic swamp.
asciilifeform: decimation: i occasionally etch simple 2-layer boards in kitchen, but only for quick experiments (e.g. studying particular smt component)
asciilifeform: decimation: what little (semi) automation i have in mind, is simply to eliminate problems with prototype assembly quality (vs design) from consideration during test.
asciilifeform: Rich fools are a resource to harvest like any other until the simply become fools << dollar in the hands of billionaire is not the same as dollar in the hands of a mere mortal. just like a gram of dirt in orbit is not the same as same gram in a moon. 'quantity has a quality of its own.'
asciilifeform: what rich fools built? example - today's usa.
asciilifeform: guy who moved to japan and got citizenship << contrary to popular belief, this is not impossible - but about same level of difficulty as getting tenured professorship at a big uni
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: one shouldn't be able to spot a b2.0 node on the network << in that traffic should resemble a traditional bitcoin node? or simply point to point encryption?
asciilifeform: another, perhaps obvious temptation is to bake in the wot.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what would you wish to see improved in chaining?
asciilifeform: 'comes as a preemptive strike against ASICs' << this shit never gets old, does it
asciilifeform: 'q: what to do if a shell lands in your trench? a: jump twenty meters and scatter yourself around!' - ww1, british.
asciilifeform: whether he stayed awake in school math and had the sense to look at the actual waveform (perhaps wife was fond of jumping on the bed?) before divorcing, i do not know.
asciilifeform: no shortage of possible experiments to choose from (e.g. Lamportian 67% theoretical maximum threshold (see 'byzantine generals') instead of 51; programmable work functions; a hundred other things)
asciilifeform: if any of them took the trouble to write something interesting (e.g. system analogous to the original btc but of proper, rather than 'power ranger' quality) and resisted the temptation of premine shenanigans, etc. - but no.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell moiety further example, if you liked - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2UmkfixRH8
asciilifeform: benkay: smallest 'quantum' of pumpage ends up being rather large.
asciilifeform: benkay: which is a shame, because old medical pumps are a dime a dozen on 'ebay.'
asciilifeform now wonders if said paste conducts well enough to be propelled in 'MHD' pump.
asciilifeform: decimation: two reasons: air is a terrible working fluid (compressible!) making for very poor repeatability;
asciilifeform: 'Instead of obtaining petrol from coal by a complicated process, it's preferable to compel certain categories of users to employ vehicles equipped with gas-generators.' << incidentally this was what 'gasenwagen' originally meant.
asciilifeform: 'The water-cooled engine will have to disappear completely.'
asciilifeform: decimation: (and component trolleys)
asciilifeform: bitcoinpete: why import. denture probably outlives owner.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: his nailgun must've had empty clip.
asciilifeform: punkman: almost certainly going to build an automatic paste printer, however. pumping paste through a handheld nozzle under microscope is a misery.
asciilifeform: punkman: not actively, but slowly contemplating it when not doing other things
asciilifeform: incidentally, we know that gate delay is thermally ticklish. how? easy - asynchronous circuits will speed up or slow down depending on temperature.
asciilifeform digs for ancient paper regarding maliciously estimating a remote machine's temperature using userspace-observable clock drifts
asciilifeform: also must recall that machine contains other components with quartz oscillators - and some of these components sit on the bus and can toss interrupts.
asciilifeform: incidentally, quartz oscillators generally don't come in the GHz range. there's a fairly modest (<100MHz) crystal and a PLL multiplier. which compounds any error...
asciilifeform impressed
asciilifeform: nubbins`: try example 'closer to home,' even. last generation of CRT displays had to include sr correction (short tube, less glass, but higher gun voltage - fast electrons.)
asciilifeform: 'gps' and similar navigation systems, for example, live and die on atomic clock (and correct for SR!)
asciilifeform: back to clocks: it is grave mistake to regard a pc clock as a scientific instrument. you can get pretty good thermal stability out of a quartz resonator, using an 'oven' (more or less just like kitchen oven, in miniature - maintain controlled temperature.) but this is never found in a consumer appliance.
asciilifeform: http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/OFAC-Enforcement/Pages/20140716.aspx << loltron. e.g., kalashnikov banned for import in usa.
asciilifeform waits for announcement of mpex plant purchasing rhubidium frequency standard
asciilifeform: they have some - limited - thermal compensation.
asciilifeform: 'I want to build machines to do stuff that someone "like us" wouldn't want to do, for any of the several reasons (the job is hard/boring/stinky/whatever). And once I've built them, I want people to be able to use them. Please note this last point. People and other "nature's computers", like animals and fungi, aren't supposed to be "used". In fact, all those systems spend a huge amount of resources to avoid being
asciilifeform: complete with fancy graphics, clickable zoom, etc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nsa-sponsored attempt to survive << they won't really worry until wintel stops being a thing.
asciilifeform: who expects people to jump into the biodiesel fermenter on their own will.
asciilifeform: but there is virtually never any good reason to attempt it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there are published recipes for this. see 'multi-party computation' literature.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to be fair, the machine (as described originally by r. feynman) doesn't divine history a la asimov's 'chronoscope', but merely computes certain classes of function unusually cheaply.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/big-numbers-random-numbers-and-whos-got-your-number/ << 'random-looking number' is reminiscent of the 'miasma theory' of disease causation. in fact, much of what presently passes for 'seekoority' is quite like miasma epidemiology. crock of shit, resulting not only from inability, but from unwillingness to to even contemplate cause-effect.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: '...died from an infection in 2010... << the rate at which these people die of preventable causes is ridiculous' << quite likely, that fellow really died of - sleep deprivation. compromised immune system. and yes, one wouldn't expect an actual 'master of the universe' to succumb to sleep deprivation. senior bureaucrats, on the other hand - sure.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: this is SOP here. air conditioner for whole house. compressor and its hot coil are outdoors, heat exchanger and gigantic fan inside.
asciilifeform uses headphones mainly to 'turn off hearing' to improve concentration.
asciilifeform: 'I dont have to write that I want millions of chickens to be brutally murdered. I can buy all the dead chickens I want at the grocery. When advocating a policy that requires violence for its implementation, it is rarely necessary to advocate the violence. Once people agree to implement the policy, the necessary violence will be forthcoming.'
asciilifeform: since mp seems to be on a bit of a dan mocsny kick, let's channel herr mocsny:
asciilifeform: i for one don't give even a basic fuck whether microshit employees can live in mansions - or in specially-constructed oubliettes with a terminal in the lid and a hole for shit in the bottom.