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BingoBoingo: ;;later tell pete_dushenski Should have at least named the blog MooseCocks Re: http://contravex.com/2014/07/29/the-transition/
assbot: The Transition. | Contravex: A blog by Peter Dushenski
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 283 @ 0.00267057 = 0.7558 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9617 @ 0.00078428 = 7.5424 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: !up TheNewDeal
TheNewDeal: gracias
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00078312 = 2.8975 BTC [-]
TheNewDeal: a blog post on blag posts
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: I know. Not Revolutionary though, because MP already does it.
BingoBoingo: Actually that's two blog posts about blog posts tonight.
TheNewDeal: niiice
assbot: Crazy RxMan: Unfortunate Pet Name
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 232 @ 0.00262143 = 0.6082 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 127 @ 0.00419994 = 0.5334 BTC [+] {3}
[]bot: Bet created: "Honkie peg to be broken" http://bitbet.us/bet/1009/
dub: wat
BingoBoingo: The Hong Kong dollar was pegged at 7.80 HKD per USD in 1983. Recently it has been trading at 7.75 HKD per USD, the strongest the HKMA permits it to float in the band around the peg.
BingoBoingo: This bet resolves as Yes if the HKD trades at 7.65 HKD per USD or stronger at any time before February 2015.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00078312 = 4.1897 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29 = 0.58 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21700 @ 0.00078312 = 16.9937 BTC [-]
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 203 Ask: 248 Last Price: 203 24h-Vol: 78k High: 211 Low: 203 VWAP: 207
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 90 @ 0.29961654 = 26.9655 BTC [+] {12}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 43 @ 0.31317137 = 13.4664 BTC [+] {11}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.3313133 = 9.9394 BTC [+] {9}
BingoBoingo: !up KRS-One
KRS-One: whats up dude
KRS-One: ;;seen vexual
gribble: vexual was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 14 hours, 52 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <Vexual> ;;lasers
BingoBoingo: Not too much
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29453 @ 0.00078258 = 23.0493 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.3 = 1.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 307 @ 0.00289276 = 0.8881 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 38 @ 0.3 = 11.4 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00078461 = 18.4383 BTC [+] {2}
KRS-One: Where are u from
BingoBoingo: !up KRS-One
KRS-One: sup man where u from
BingoBoingo: Oh, no where in particular
KRS-One: ya same here..
KRS-One: just thought it was funny how bitcoin is worldwide yet the btc channels go dead when the US sleeps.
KRS-One: Are there any other btc IRC networks that you know of
BingoBoingo: That's a very good question
kakobrekla: europeans read, americans write.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7909 @ 0.00078208 = 6.1855 BTC [-]
KRS-One: They must have a lot to learn.
mircea_popescu: justusranvier the problem is what do you do to preven tit from being attacked ?
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: an atm requires a fortress... << to house the mechanism itself? or, its owner? << yes.
mircea_popescu: in any event it's a fortressy thing to do. "here is money for the taking. take it only like so, or else you die"
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34968 @ 0.00078422 = 27.4226 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> (in which case, what kind of fortress could possibly suffice) << hence the rape comment.
mircea_popescu: the only way to do this is long after we've defeated everyone.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.31 = 0.62 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 599 @ 0.00262561 = 1.5727 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 321 @ 0.00419999 = 1.3482 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00078581 = 8.7225 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: !up GodHatesFigs
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.300075 = 1.2003 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.3 = 0.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.31499889 = 0.63 BTC [+]
DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, nice :D
assbot: Ethereum is truly innovative; the first genuine stab at a post-Bitcoin blockchai... | Hacker News
mircea_popescu: check out vessenes being a complete and utter fucktard
mircea_popescu: YET AGAIN
assbot: Inheritance and Individuation | Contravex: A blog by Peter Dushenski
DreadKnight: well, don't know about etherum, but I wish bitcoin was non-ASIC-able
DreadKnight: though that means mining of new coins would had stagnated at some point hmm
DreadKnight: so probably super bad idea
punkman: no ASICS = easier to attack
mircea_popescu: that's silly. asics are a major building block in our power. the only reason we're still fighting today is that we had asics in time.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 669 @ 0.0026351 = 1.7629 BTC [+]
DreadKnight: thought some people got into btc early and mined with cpu and gpu, now that's not useful; some of those people got rich and can easily afford lots of asics now to continue mining and make some more money, but they invested in some hardware which was not very usable for anything else and quite a risk, so it kinda forced bitcoin to be a non burstable bubble because of the hardware
DreadKnight: s/thought/though
DreadKnight: so ASIC not really bad if you think about it
DreadKnight: btc had plenty of time to be spread around nicely with already existing hardware
DreadKnight: I was considering ASICs as a "the rich get richer" sort of thing, but considering their utility/cost/risks, it's all good
mircea_popescu: you're focusing on the wrong things.
mircea_popescu: the point is not for some random fuckwits to "have a chance".
mircea_popescu: the point is for bitcoin to be as powerful as possible.
mircea_popescu: because, again, bitcoin is not here for the people, bitcoin is here for the elite.
DreadKnight: I understood from your previous argument
mircea_popescu: !up guest8645
DreadKnight: average joe won't know about bitcoin unless the elite implements it in businesses and requires it
mircea_popescu: pretty much.
DreadKnight: not know, better say "use"
DreadKnight: because bitcoin was on the tv news quite a few times around here at least
DreadKnight: "don't invest in btc, it's a bubble!" and after a while it showed a lot of stupid monkeys all like "I don't know how it works, but I sold x and y and invested it all into bitcoins" lol
mircea_popescu: !s from:naphex tv
cazalla: it's for the "other 6 billion" you greedy fucks!
DreadKnight: it will get there thanks to the elite
mircea_popescu: maybe the point was to make bitcoin so that every person has one.
mircea_popescu: putting the excess population by satoshi prophecy at about 6bn
DreadKnight: yes, but screw that, people can trade bucks rather
DreadKnight: it's not like I actually mined dollars in the first place to begin with xD
cazalla: DreadKnight, from what i've read, most that cpu -> gpu -> bfl mined ended up with nothing
DreadKnight: as expected, mtgox ftw xD
cazalla: well, that too but they were warned
cazalla: fortunately the right people have a good amount of coins, can you imagine the likes of andreas with thousands
DreadKnight: it's never ever wise to keep all money in the same spot ffs
mircea_popescu: a warning's as good as a wink to a blind bat
DreadKnight: wise words
mircea_popescu: especially should the bat belabour under the delusion it;'s batman.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, night comes to ass ull. later.
DreadKnight: rest well
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33080 @ 0.00078656 = 26.0194 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8620 @ 0.00078656 = 6.7801 BTC [+]
assbot: A third of consumers with credit files had debts in collections last year - The Washington Post
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00078551 = 5.4593 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00078551 = 1.6888 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: !up pleego
BingoBoingo: !up pogakuofie
BingoBoingo: !up manamex
BingoBoingo: !up Ginux
pogakuofie: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 578.69, Best ask: 580.43, Bid-ask spread: 1.74000, Last trade: 578.65, 24 hour volume: 3899.39029056, 24 hour low: 578.0, 24 hour high: 587.78, 24 hour vwap: 581.991343838
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20400 @ 0.00078275 = 15.9681 BTC [-]
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 205 Ask: 248 Last Price: 203 24h-Vol: 66k High: 210 Low: 203 VWAP: 206
pogakuofie: what is that : bingobingo
BingoBoingo: What? What am I?
BingoBoingo: OR the thing I summoned which is a ticker for Altcoin
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00078275 = 1.2133 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30900 @ 0.00078619 = 24.2933 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 313148 | Current Difficulty: 1.8736441558310238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 314495 | Next Difficulty In: 1347 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 13 hours, 54 minutes, and 38 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 19398377285.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 3.53288
moiety: hey bingobingo :P
BingoBoingo: Hey moiety
BingoBoingo: I see you got caught in the netsplit
moiety: yep D; i usually manage to escape it too
moiety: OH i have my pi back up! i'll look at the thing kako gave me to set up a bouncer
BingoBoingo: Ah, It's been a while since one's caught me.
moiety: whats been happening with you?
moiety: see the derp-api died fully finally
BingoBoingo: Well, I'm watching atc still, stament comes in a few days.
BingoBoingo: I'd like to get this one out on the first.
BingoBoingo: Ah Doge api?
BingoBoingo: Were you using that moiety?
moiety: nope
moiety: our own dogecoind
moiety: but lots of folk have lost in transactions
moiety: in other places
moiety: am i wrong in thinnking this is another nail in the coffin though?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 852 @ 0.0012223 = 1.0414 BTC [-] {9}
BingoBoingo: It prolly is. Dogers like outsourcing work and everything node.js
moiety: they still seem blissfully unaware. still on their way to the moon they think
BingoBoingo: Prolly What's doge price lately?
moiety: lol its bad i had to look that up XD $0.2048/1k
BingoBoingo: How much is that in real things?
moiety: negative lol
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell ThickasTheives http://therealaltcoin.org/ seems down
gribble: The operation succeeded.
moiety: 0.0003500 btc/ 1k doge
moiety: i feel bad that when people join and ask me about doge i have to tell them i dont use it >.>
BingoBoingo: Wow, at least Honesty?
moiety: well yeah im not gonna lie about it
moiety: cus it just leads tomore questions i cant answer
BingoBoingo: Sure. And I mean it enforces the thing where everything on that service really is worthless game tokens.
moiety: they arent worthless if the users use them
moiety: i do miss how it was though
BingoBoingo: Ah In the old days
moiety: yep, but you know me.. resourceful. we'll just see what happens
BingoBoingo: ;;later mike_c I'm keeping at least a pretense of life in your thread
gribble: Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "mike_c" in it. Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin.
BingoBoingo: ;;later laser mike_c I'm keeping at least a pretense of life in your thread
gribble: Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "laser" in it. Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell mike_c I'm keeping at least a pretense of life in your thread
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.00078619 = 8.1371 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: moiety: I mean you did save the sex weeks flat
moiety: wasn't sure i was going to either. it really shouldnt be so hard to keep a roof over one's head
moiety: ah summer showers - was outside for literally 60 seconds and im soaked
BingoBoingo: Well, consider how many places it takes 15+ people to afford a roof.
moiety: someone suggested a lodger to me but i'm really not keen. i keep too weird hours
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14456 @ 0.00077885 = 11.2591 BTC [-]
cazalla: it's not the hours but the space that becomes a problem with sharing
BingoBoingo: cazalla: This is -assets, the hours become a problem too
assbot: Bitcoin trading website accused of defrauding thousands of customers - LA Times
BingoBoingo: ^ coinabul
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17445 @ 0.00077885 = 13.587 BTC [-]
dub: you would think that the media would know to just omit the 'based in wyoming' thing
BingoBoingo: Yeah, I mean that address has how many stories about being a place to rent a mailslot to incorporate from?
moiety: cazalla: thats another thing, this flat is huge but the spare room is actually really quite small. its the only small room. i couldn't cram someone in there and charge them for it. also i have cats that would piss someone off i thnk. they like laying on clean clothes
moiety likes to wander freely - not a good thing to do with starngers inthe house
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1985 @ 0.00260753 = 5.1759 BTC [-] {9}
BingoBoingo: Eh, maybe you could rent a box or something, The tenent tell you when they need out and until them you just lock them in?
cazalla: moiety, i lived with 2 other guys in a 2 bedroom unit when i was much younger, we turned the loungeroom into another bedroom as it had a door, was worth it at the time to save on rent but the cooking, cleaning is a pita when others don't rate it as highly as i do on list of things to do
dub: solution: live with other ocd folk
cazalla: beggars can't be choosers
moiety: lmao BingoBoingo
moiety: i know cazalla, but i'll try everything else i can first
BingoBoingo: Seriously the tenant present a schedule of when they need out well in advance, and otherwise they go in the box.
BingoBoingo: Some aspies would probably got for that
moiety: aspies?
cazalla: there's been a few shipping container ghettos here in australia
moiety: omg i saw the most amazing shipping container house
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
cazalla: it's usually full of international students and illegals though
BingoBoingo: moiety: You know the shut ins
moiety: o ofc lol
moiety: i got told damp would be an issue cazalla
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cazalla: fire too, a lot went up in flames here a few months ago
moiety: :o
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Those things look like Tornado food
moiety: jesus christ doge people are over sensitive drama queens
BingoBoingo: OMG What happened now?
BingoBoingo: I'll never believe it!
cazalla: BingoBoingo, the one thing Australia lacks!
moiety: topic : domestic abusers being tagged response: ermagherd ive been abused i cant possibly read this!
moiety: well fuck off then no need to tell everyone
moiety: ive given them the shipping containers to calm them down
moiety: wait... is australia not very windy cazalla?
cazalla: moiety, we have cyclones
moiety: oh fuck that, my search for the least windy place to live continues
cazalla: it's really only the top end that gets hit by them
BingoBoingo: moiety: Have they exhausted your manul supply already?
moiety: they arent worthy of the manuls
moiety: very few appreciate them
cazalla: moiety, although i've been around tasman island and the wind was that bad, figured the boat would overturn for sure
moiety: fuck that must have been petrifying cazalla
cazalla: missus started crying, it was her idea too as she wanted to see the seals etc
cazalla: i had to keep it together for her sake but i was terrified, tour operator ended up turning back as he was concerned as well
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.29420001 = 2.942 BTC [-] {4}
moiety: now thats when you really panic... when a boatman or pilot starts to worry
cazalla: we were meant to go the day prior but it was cancelled due to bad weather, should've been a headsup for what was to come heh
cazalla: beautiful area though, can't wait to move to tassie
moiety: when do you move?
assbot: The Lovin' Spoonful - Summer In The City (1966) - YouTube
punkman: 32 C again, this is not conducive to work
assbot: Pallas cat - Otocolobus manul - YouTube
cazalla: moiety, no set date but i want to within 18-24 months, we have a short list of places but i'll need to sell my unit, bubs is teething atm so makes it difficult for me to leave missus here on her own and find a place
moiety: punkman, it was 25C in my room at midnight last night, i'm dying without a/c
moiety: cazalla: understandable. at least you have time to search too and no deadline though
BingoBoingo: moiety: They are so much better moving!!!
moiety: ik! the WTF face is even better in a video too
moiety: so fluffy
punkman: I'd go to manul beach
moiety: don't give me ideas punkman!
assbot: The Unfluffly Truth about Pallas' Cats at Prospect Park Zoo - YouTube
assbot: Pallas Cat Kittens - 12 weeks old pt1 - YouTube
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36000 @ 0.00078299 = 28.1876 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21577 @ 0.00078653 = 16.971 BTC [+] {2}
moiety: that woman has THE best job ever
assbot: WHF Pallas Cats - Wei Shand & Tula - YouTube
moiety: thi kittens! :'D
moiety: the*
BingoBoingo: So much fur
moiety: i believe losing an arm in order to touch one would be a fair swap
BingoBoingo: Prolly true
moiety: the way they move around is hilarious
BingoBoingo: Alternately dangerous.
moiety: if i were to write to a zoo do you think they would let me stuff one that died naturally?
BingoBoingo: And frustrating when their face is partially obscured because you know they are making great faces
moiety: ^^
BingoBoingo: moiety: That is an interesting question? How would your other cats handle their favorite being immobile?
moiety: i could see them sitting on it actually
moiety: mine are ridiculously stupid
BingoBoingo: I dunno, maybe they would smell that doing so would be unwise...
moiety: "o a nice raised up rug/bed, thanks!" i reckon would be the response or "this one wont talk to me!"
assbot: That's Too Long: Woman Has Sex Toy Removed From Vagina After Ten Years | Geekologie
fluffypony: moiety: do you know her?
moiety: WTF
moiety: LOL fluffypony!!!! I do not XD
moiety: god i wish i worked at ARI at this time
moiety: how could she not know?!
moiety: must be like a bucket
punkman: this little guy showed up yesterday: http://i.imgur.com/C9HUjtl.jpg
BingoBoingo: punkman: I think asciilifeform set a standard that cats in this channel need either serious fluff or confirmed kills...
punkman: he killed a cockroach, does that count?
BingoBoingo: Eh, prolly
punkman: also made the older kitty jealous and she left
moiety: aww he's so cute... did your other one come back yet?
moiety: elvis ate a butterfly yesterday
punkman: cute :P
punkman: this one has stuck around for a couple weeks: http://i.imgur.com/R3JQWvt.jpg
thick_as_thieves: <+BingoBoingo> ;;later tell ThickasTheives http://therealaltcoin.org/ seems down /// up for me, but that's one more sign namecheap hosting sux
assbot: The Real Altcoin (ATC) – Never Mine Another Altcoin Again
punkman: I guess word is out that I got free food
moiety: omg he is adorable, i just imploded
moiety: i need to figure out how to combine cats and btc, life would be complete
punkman: 1. shave qr code on kitty 2. ??? 3. Profit!!?
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 527816.92 in 638 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -23.19
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 313158 | Current Difficulty: 1.8736441558310238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 314495 | Next Difficulty In: 1337 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 17 hours, 43 minutes, and 31 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 19294145477.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 2.97657
cazalla: i'll never understand how someone can pick a cat over a dog
punkman: I'd rather have a goat
punkman: cazalla: how many rabbits do you have now?
cazalla: punkman, 8 kittens ready to eat in about 2 weeks besides the 2 does 1 buck for breeding
cazalla: could produce more but i like to give the does a month break once she weans them, the commercial ones are typically rebreed same day as they give birth
punkman: I always do rabbit in stew/sauce, wanna try chicken-fried next time
cazalla: i crumb and then panfry the hind/fore legs, toss the rest in a slow cooker, started using the kidneys + liver for pate recently
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18023 @ 0.00078662 = 14.1773 BTC [+]
assbot: The Life Cycle of a Parasitic Specialist
thick_as_thieves: moiety: this is lil rosie when she was littler. she's full grown at about 6lbs now. http://i.imgur.com/asL9ccZ.jpg
thick_as_thieves: the sock suit was to stop her from picking at her bellybutton
moiety: aww she's so cute thick_as_thieves! beautiful colouring
moiety: bellybutton? did she have surgery?
thick_as_thieves: she was born
moiety: ive had them at 5 weeks and bellies were fine
moiety: how old is she there
thick_as_thieves: we foster them young
moiety: thats brilliant!
thick_as_thieves: probly less than 2 weeks
thick_as_thieves: when you get em that young, they turn out awesome
moiety: i got elvis because he was offered home four times and let down
thick_as_thieves: we have a cat we've offered away four times with no success
moiety: if i was closer i would have it!
thick_as_thieves: he thinks rosie is a critter or too weak or something so he attacks her and carries her around
thick_as_thieves: he's sweet otherwis
BingoBoingo: !up the20year1
assbot: Hello there! Welcome to the world of Pokmon! My name is Oak! - Imgur
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 695 @ 0.00256826 = 1.7849 BTC [-] {12}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 857 @ 0.00252833 = 2.1668 BTC [-] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.3177777 = 2.86 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.324 = 0.972 BTC [+]
jurov: BingoBoingo what am i reading???
BingoBoingo: jurov: Which thing I linked?
jurov: pokemon
BingoBoingo: It was on the side bar next to one of the cat pictures
BigBitz: Pokémon ftw.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6632 @ 0.00078662 = 5.2169 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1000 @ 0.00248713 = 2.4871 BTC [-] {21}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 567 @ 0.00245 = 1.3892 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.324 = 2.592 BTC [+]
atcbot: 8k@260 17k@250 27k@248 | 68k@205 23k@203 100k@202
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 600 @ 0.00235056 = 1.4103 BTC [-]
assbot: How to issue a cryptosecurity - O.info
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8487 @ 0.0007826 = 6.6419 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36400 @ 0.00078006 = 28.3942 BTC [-] {2}
mod6: %t
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 205 Ask: 248 Last Price: 203 24h-Vol: 66k High: 210 Low: 203 VWAP: 206
mod6: %d
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 526412.98 in 632 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -23.40
assbot: Tokyo Police Launch Formal Investigation Into Mt Gox Bitcoin Disappearance - WSJ.com
ThickAsThieves: quick those guys
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
assbot: A nod is as good as a wink
artifexd: Then... 2 lines later I get all confused again. mircea_popescu, can you clarify for me?
cazalla: speak of the devil..
artifexd: Is it a summoning spell?
mircea_popescu: lol what have you apprentice wizards done!
artifexd: Is your arrival at this time pure coincidence?
ThickAsThieves: nothing pure about it
mircea_popescu: lol impure coincidence.
cazalla: i'm reading that heuristics pdf again, perhaps they are incantations?
mircea_popescu: cazalla said "well, that too but they were warned". to this i said, "a nod is as good as a wink". as in, it shouldn't really take much warning that when a cock is going in and out of your butt, you're being fucked.
artifexd: aok ty
mircea_popescu: except, of course, if you're one of the sort of vain fucktards bitcoin's been blessed with. too good to obey, too fucking stupid to boil water.
mircea_popescu: and heuristics are incantations, but they don't summon me.
mircea_popescu: they summon the devil that lives in details.
assbot: BitBet - BTC to top $800 before August :: 3.22 B (12%) on Yes, 23.62 B (88%) on No | closed 1 day 13 hours ago
mircea_popescu: assbot: A third of consumers with credit files had debts in collections last year - The Washington Post << clearly the economy's recovering o.O
ThickAsThieves: i will say, it's damn easy to have a random bill from some fucktarded scam or shitty company go to collections without people knowing it
ThickAsThieves: I have like a 900 credit score and had something in collections last year i think
mircea_popescu: "About 77 million Americans have a debt in collections, a new report finds."
mircea_popescu: a that's a good point.
mircea_popescu: the article conveniently doesn't report the average debt per 77 mn.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: also fails to count the folks who borrowed from unofficial loan sharks
mircea_popescu: those are in collections by default.
assbot: BitPay Introduces New Pricing Model: Free, Unlimited, Forever | NEWSBTC
mircea_popescu: btw asciilifeform, re our discussion yest. im toying with the idea of putting together a bulk of russian "dark whateveritwas" writings and having them translated.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13702 @ 0.00078193 = 10.714 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: another place people 'borrow' is... the tax authorities. (how? many who are classified as 'contractor' aren't paying their bill on time, because gotta eat.)
ThickAsThieves: bitpay goes from service provider to skimmer i guess
mircea_popescu: you know it doesn't actually skim ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: having them translated << to english? this promises to be exceedingly difficult
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform myeah ;/
ThickAsThieves: "By comparison, one of BitPay’s biggest competitors here in the United States, Coinbase, offers a no-fee processing service for the first $1 million in bitcoin revenue. After that, a one percent fee is charged upon conversion from bitcoin to local currency."
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves : "The report analyzed 2013 credit data from TransUnion to calculate how many Americans were falling behind on their bills. It looked at how many people had non-mortgage bills, such as credit card bills, child support payments and medical bills, that are so past due that the account has since been closed and placed in collections."
ThickAsThieves: i doubt thats the deal Dell got
mircea_popescu: not random internet pron bill.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves textbook exercise in how to devalue a market to the point you can no longer survive in it.
ThickAsThieves: while i dont care, i could argue their wording is leading you
asciilifeform: child support payments << phun phact! we still have debtor's prisons for these in usa
mircea_popescu: Researchers relied on a random sample of 7 million people with data reported to the credit bureaus in 2013 to estimate what share of the 220 million Americans with credit files have debts in collection.
mircea_popescu: nevermind, i'm not interested in what these doods have to say anymore.
ThickAsThieves: why use 7m when you have data for all?
mircea_popescu: But the median debt, $1,350, is still pretty substantial, she adds. who the fuck carwes what the median is. jesus.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what, you thought they had access to the real figures?
mircea_popescu: well they must be the only people on the planet who don't by now
mircea_popescu: maybe the carders should run these numbers.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: remember the story about gorby and andropov?
asciilifeform: g: 'show me the real budget.' a: 'you're asking too much. that's off limits to you.'
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 400 @ 0.00259754 = 1.039 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: so i am sitting here with a glass of mineral water. it's a tall, about 12 oz glass. on it, some black bubbles as decor. i've had it for a while.
mircea_popescu: NOW i realise the fucking bubbles were done in ms paint.
mircea_popescu: back when gorby was young ?
assbot: The Bitcoin Foundation | Standardizing, Promoting, and Protecting the Bitcoin Protocol
ThickAsThieves: pictures!
mircea_popescu: lol standardizing ?
ThickAsThieves: Priorities: Fund developers to tackle specific scalability and security challenges
ThickAsThieves: Increase transactions-per-second throughout
ThickAsThieves: Minimize orphan rates for miners
ThickAsThieves: Implement “UTXO commitments” blockchain pruning and “fully validating but not full-history” nodes
asciilifeform: microshit-style standardization, presumably
asciilifeform: 'embrace & extinguish'
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 266 @ 0.00242001 = 0.6437 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: "Build an international rapid response team to respond to policy threats globally"
mircea_popescu: dude fucking backpackers.
ThickAsThieves: we're gonna need more guns
mircea_popescu: I DO NOT CARRY MY OWN SHIT. THIS IS BITCOIN.
ThickAsThieves: their logo sux
ThickAsThieves: short it
asciilifeform: short it << outside my windows, a dead squirrel, buzzing with flies. how do i short it?
mircea_popescu: "Why We Need a Foundation" << wrong question. who's "we" and more importantly, why we don't need another scam run by vesseness ?
mircea_popescu: who, apparently, is also involved in the eth scam
mircea_popescu: that guy's like vleisides on steroids.
cazalla: i knew before i scrolled there would be a token black kid on that new site
ThickAsThieves: <+asciilifeform> short it << outside my windows, a dead squirrel, buzzing with flies. how do i short it? /// the eternal question
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform got a shovel ?
mircea_popescu: cazalla chumpatron knows their audience.
asciilifeform: that's not 'short' though
asciilifeform: to take it, would be to go 'long' on squirrel.
asciilifeform: thought being, not everything that's in obvious decomposition can be shorted
ThickAsThieves: ;;later tell justusranvier "Strictly speaking, a recycler is not essential. The ATM could remain unbanked by having a separate cash dispenser and cash acceptor, and this would mean that it would require manual servicing to move the cash from one receptacle to the other." Well if the point is to not use a bank, maybe take the time design machine that can spit out cash it receives itself?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: to correctly short squirrel, somebody must believe that it will get up and walk again, and then you bet against this
justusranvier: ThickAsThieves: The issue is cost and capacity of recyclers
mircea_popescu: i still don't get what do you think will prevent me from simply walking in, taking your atm and leaving.
justusranvier: They exist, but they are slow and don't handle many bills.
ThickAsThieves: thats just cuz no one put money into making them better i bet
mircea_popescu: it "not being nice" or something ?
cazalla: wonder if they ripped the design from this site http://www.viktyo.com/
assbot: VIKTYO | Beta
justusranvier: mircea_popescu: Same thing that prevents youfrom doing it to all the other ATMs in the world
mircea_popescu: all the other atms in the world are inside an invisible fortress.
asciilifeform: justusranvier: the saecular authorities will not protect btc atm.
justusranvier: Ok. So what?
mircea_popescu: just because you don't see it yourself doesn't mean either that it's not there nor that you can make your own.
mircea_popescu: what do you mean so what ?
justusranvier: There is no need for secular authorities to protect the btc atm
mircea_popescu: you plan to make this thing out of magic fabric that only reveals itself to true believers and people it'd like to fuck ?
mircea_popescu: so... i can just take it ?
ThickAsThieves: justusranvier you posit a bankless atm, so you have accepted the tasks of competing with better ATMs, no?
cazalla: justusranvier, ATM's get stolen often here, steal a car, tie chain around ATM and off you go
justusranvier: The Bitcoin ATM that's physically closest to me is in a store (Brave New Books) where most of the employees have concealed handgun permits.
ThickAsThieves: this means being as useful as possible
justusranvier: They already have high-value merchandice that they keep an eye on to stop it from being stolen
ThickAsThieves: would BRINKS or such serve a bitcoin ATM?
asciilifeform: justusranvier: if it needs human pistoleros, it might as well be a box with a slave in it counting out cash
mircea_popescu: dise. but so what ? i can have this shop foreclosed on, can i not ?
ThickAsThieves: where to bring the cash tho...
justusranvier: mircea_popescu: I have no idea what kind of threat model you are trying to propose.
chetty: haha they should always be deployed right next to regular atms, simply everything
justusranvier: ThickAsThieves: The point of the proposal is that you in no way require Brinks
mircea_popescu: the kind of threat model when where you intend to break the laws of whatever lord, you'd better have better arms than him.
justusranvier: not at all
ThickAsThieves: thats the point mp is saying you have wrong i think
ThickAsThieves: security
justusranvier: Did I propose breaking any laws?
mircea_popescu: yes. in order to have a bitcoin atm, you must break aml/kyc.
mircea_popescu: this isn't avoidable.
mircea_popescu: if you break that, might as well just walk into the police station and start shooting randomly.
justusranvier: Maybe in the US, but it's not the only country in the world
mircea_popescu: the only reason random shithole allows you to do really obnoxious shit is that random shithole is small and dumb.
mircea_popescu: once you get big it'll change suddenly, and with little explanation.
ThickAsThieves: <+cazalla> wonder if they ripped the design from this site http://www.viktyo.com/ /// ha!
assbot: VIKTYO | Beta
mircea_popescu: in this sense, you;re basically saying that drugs aren;t illegal everywhere, such as chicago shooting district.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: here's one gedanken-atm. it's inside a concrete block, cannot be repaired, etc. 50kg of thermite if disturbed. then, simply leave it somewhere reasonable. (network connectivity an exercise for alert reader.)
mircea_popescu: aml/kyc is a fundamental component of the current order. you can't annul it just like that.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you will go to jail for unauthorised explosive device.
asciilifeform: naturally. if there's a 'you'
mircea_popescu: if you can make items that can';t be traced back to you, you've satisfied the rape requirement i detailed yest.
ThickAsThieves: dont they put palm readers and other AML things in some ATMs?
asciilifeform: as it is, it's just a terrorist infernal device that happens to dispense cash if treaded with kindness.
asciilifeform: *treated
ThickAsThieves: palm reader, hehe, maybe they should include tea-leaf readers too
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 625 @ 0.00184 = 1.15 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves that would then not be a btc atm. it would be a satanic usg attack on btc.
mircea_popescu: just because something has btc IN it doesn';t make it btc-that something.
asciilifeform: these - are being built even now.
mircea_popescu: for instance, a bear trap is not bearham
ThickAsThieves: cant we just stop trying to accommodate fiat?
mircea_popescu: not anymore than we can stop accomodating that whore.
ThickAsThieves: let bitpay and friends worry about this kinda shit
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, your terrorist infernal devices will be auto-dismantled.
mircea_popescu: not so fucking useful.
asciilifeform: probably.
asciilifeform: unless random people took initiative to shelter them secretly.
ThickAsThieves: mistaken for WMDs
mircea_popescu: samizdatbtc ?
asciilifeform: ('wanna come use my pet terror-atm ?')
mircea_popescu: guess what! this already happens!
mircea_popescu: usg is spending a lot of money time and resources trying to infiltrate it!
assbot: Paying ransoms, Europe bankrolls Qaeda terror
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 507 @ 0.00242002 = 1.227 BTC [-] {2}
justusranvier: If you don't like physical ATMs, then implement the same trading algorithm with human traders
justusranvier: also works
mircea_popescu: chetty lol@cnbtc. and i guess the us hasn';t recently embarked in a joyride of paying ransoms to hide the reality of its middle eastern defeat ?
mircea_popescu: justusranvier explain the algorithm in question again for the benefit of they with difficulties reading ?
chetty: haha well I kinda just assume usg and eu is doing same stuffs these days
ThickAsThieves: twist wrist and free?
ThickAsThieves: maybe dislocate thumb requires
ThickAsThieves: nice design
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves not everyone';s got thieves wrists.
ThickAsThieves: "The New York Times found that Al Qaeda and its direct affiliates have taken in at least $125 million in revenue from kidnappings since 2008, of which $66 million was paid just last year."
mircea_popescu: but anyway, yeah, it's actually impossible to keep a well trained slavegirl restrained. she'll wiggle out, over time. this being more for the engineering of it etc.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves see now THEY could make a bitcoin atm.
chetty: haha just wait until AQ wants it ransoms in btc
ThickAsThieves: seems their atm works just fine
ThickAsThieves: put in Europeans, withdraw millions
mircea_popescu: http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9y3xxsbmm1rtfxf4o1_500.jpg << is it wrong that i really like this concept ?
chetty: yes
chetty: (he isnt almost naked, thats the problem)
mircea_popescu: the subtext i read there is, guy buys diamond ring, girl spends a few hours on the end of a leash that day.
mircea_popescu: comes back, little worse for the wear.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31241 @ 0.00078221 = 24.437 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 400 @ 0.00242004 = 0.968 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;refresh
gribble: Order refresh successful, 2 orders refreshed.
chetty: you never seem to see the same symbols as the rest of us
ThickAsThieves: he has sexualized glasses
mircea_popescu: no, you all see the world through monoculture glasses!
cazalla: that shit is constantly on 4chan but it's shitty bait
ThickAsThieves: i try so hard, but still i only see with my own eyes
mircea_popescu: "The ruling requires Argentina to pay 100 percent of its debt to the holdouts at the same time Argentina pays the restructured bonds to the “holdins.” Argentina is not allowed, under Griesa’s ruling, to pay some creditors but not others. The payment date was June 30. Because Argentina missed its payment, it is now under a 30-day grace period. If Argentina does not pay by the end of July it will, again, be formall
mircea_popescu: y in default."
assbot: Understanding Argentinas Coming Default - Nicolás Cachanosky - Mises Daily
chetty: mircea_popescu, is there anything in life that does not relate to sex?
mircea_popescu: this isn't really a fair statement of the problem
mircea_popescu: i guess im writing a blogpost.
mircea_popescu: chetty did you say life ?
chetty: yeah, meant as a generic term, not biology
mircea_popescu: and suddenly the glasses are in plain view.
mircea_popescu: what the holy fuckballs of heaven do you mean "generic term not biology" ?
mircea_popescu: cazalla you don't see the merits in taking another man's wife from time to time ?
ThickAsThieves: is there anything in sex that does not relate to life
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves roughly half.
chetty: well apparently a failed attmept to forestall you going on that life obviously means sex ..
cazalla: mircea_popescu, i did it once and felt horrible, after i had fucked her though
mircea_popescu: what's to forestall ? things are what they are not what we wanna see them as.
chetty: the question comes down to, whats the sex in a stock exchange trade?
cazalla: met her online, she invited me over, i get there, lets me straight in and then tells me to be quiet because her kids are asleep, news to me at that point, she had kicked her husband out few days prior too
mircea_popescu: cazalla a that's no good.
ThickAsThieves: maybe i can translate for chetty, or at least put words in her mouth. you have a hyper-sexualized view of things, using sex as metaphor constantly, being quite horny, keeping sex slaves, sex is majorly part of your psyche, going so far as to imply a hypersexual person is a hypersuccessful person/ why do you think it's so important and how does this relate to the inferiority assumed by
ThickAsThieves: your average desexualized beta mangirl
mircea_popescu: well, the objection'd be that hyper requires an average, and not only is there a good objective average sex, but why would anyone care ? this then reduces the problem to a personal matter, "he talks more of it than i do. this is inconvenient for x y z reasons."
mircea_popescu: not only is there not*
mircea_popescu: remarkably enough, my use of the sex metaphor is actually unrelated to sex. it just happens to be an incredibly good structure for explaining things to people, especially people who haven't spent a lot of time thinking, either generally or on the topic at hand.
cazalla: only part that bothers me is half of mircea_popescu tumblr links look like they came from rusty and eddies
mircea_popescu: ths because they HAVE spent a lot of time thinking about sex.
mircea_popescu: cazalla i'm an equal opportunity asshole!
chetty: ThickAsThieves, that close to what I meant. But nothing really to do personally with Mircea and sex, more how does he manage to see it everything
ThickAsThieves: so the distilled answer is, "Dude I like sex more than you, it ain't mean nuthin!" ?
chetty: mircea_popescu, yes thats exactly what I was trying to get at
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 294 @ 0.00242005 = 0.7115 BTC [+] {4}
rithm: i like sex
mircea_popescu: rithm a, but does sex like you back ?
rithm: sex likes me
rithm: i asked it
ThickAsThieves: sex is a slut
mircea_popescu: i once knew a stripper named sex.
ThickAsThieves: her tastes were quite complex
mircea_popescu: lol this is for real.
rithm: she sat on my pole,
chetty: serial limericks?
ThickAsThieves: my wallet cajoled
rithm: and boy, when i came did she squeal
rithm: or -ex
rithm: mp messed it up
ThickAsThieves: here's one i made yesterday
ThickAsThieves: Princessnell, she casts a spell, with words longer than I can spell. She found her calling in verbal brawling, but who's winning? No one can tell.
mircea_popescu: this is exactly the definition of a good lay
mircea_popescu: a spirited bout of brawling with no clear victor.
rithm: lol
ThickAsThieves: rhyming spell with spell = pro
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 199 @ 0.00251847 = 0.5012 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you're also implying that the source of her intellect is mystical.
mircea_popescu: this because you're a cis scum privilege-mongering woman hater.
mircea_popescu: or perhaps for want of a pair of glasses :D
ThickAsThieves: nope it's just cuz i wanna read and digest her articles but they are so fukn dense with words and links
ThickAsThieves: the limerick was my way of complaining
mircea_popescu: so basically you think her intellect is mystical because you love her so much ?
mircea_popescu: "honey, i don't want you to leave the house anymore"
ThickAsThieves: i dont even know her
mircea_popescu: sorry son, you've stepped into feminism hour here at horror hotel.
ThickAsThieves: is it at least happy hour too?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47850 @ 0.0007873 = 37.6723 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: i think for pot only.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, these people here are fucking nuts. do you know what the #1 universal question is, as you start getting intimate ?
mircea_popescu: not "do you wanna fuck me", not "do you think im fat", not even what fucking bands you like. no. none of that.
mircea_popescu: "do you smoke pot" they want to know.
mircea_popescu: im like... what is this, highschool ?
ThickAsThieves: everyone is doing it mircea
ThickAsThieves: be one of us
mircea_popescu: THIS is what personality and interpersonal bonding is predicated upon ? fucking pot ?
ThickAsThieves: it does enhance orgasm
mircea_popescu: i dun want my orgasm fucking enhanced.
mircea_popescu: everything enhances orgasm, for crying out loud. including not doing it for a while.
mircea_popescu: now why would i want that ? let them be boring and plain old ordinarily unenhanced.
ThickAsThieves: do you also not drink booze with sex?
mircea_popescu: wait, you can actually make your penis drink ?!
mircea_popescu: from a cup or do you have a little trough for it ?
ThickAsThieves: i only smoke pot with my dick
ThickAsThieves: get with the program
mircea_popescu: occasionally one runs into a well work whore that can smoke with her cunt.
mircea_popescu: it's generally a good sign.
ThickAsThieves: that should be your response then
ThickAsThieves: Do you smoke pot? Does your cunt smoke pot?
ThickAsThieves: maybe she can shotgun you from below
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30131 @ 0.0007897 = 23.7945 BTC [+] {4}
ThickAsThieves: sexualize the pot, dont potualize the sex
mircea_popescu: genetically engineered vaginal water pipe.
mircea_popescu: ALWAYS WET
chetty: and here I thought pot mostly made people lazy and hungry ...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 419 @ 0.00199874 = 0.8375 BTC [+] {9}
ThickAsThieves: depends on the pot and the person
ThickAsThieves: but generlaly you are correct
ThickAsThieves: Anyone who used Tor between early February and July 4th of 2014 "should assume they were affected" by the attack, says the Tor team.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6645 @ 0.00079094 = 5.2558 BTC [+]
assbot: EXCLUSIVE: Payments giant First Data acquires Gyft in an effort to bring digital gift cards to the masses | PandoDaily
rithm: whoa gyft got assimilated
mircea_popescu: !up pleego
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artifexd: <gribble> Rating change | Old rating 2 | New rating: danielpbarron > -4 > birdman | have known face-to-face for several years; currently an idiot, but there is still hope.. <<< LOL
artifexd: <gribble> New rating | birdman > 3 > danielpbarron | Holds alot of my btc, very knowlageable with cryptography, is childish and doesnt understand the web of trust. negative rated me for getting devoice on #bitcoin-assets. Rationalizes that he had to change the +2 he had for me to a -4 because of his appearence there. Not to mention i was devoiced there
artifexd: because some regular there picked a fight. Very trustworthy when i comes to busines <<< Moar lol
artifexd: Once could use the #bitcoin-otc-ratings channel as source material for a very funny soap opera.
danielpbarron: it wasn't just for that; we had an extended conversation after that incident and I didn't like his attitude about it
artifexd: I get it. I really do. I still find it funny.
ThickAsThieves: "Why not use a more reputable site like nitrogensports or cloudbet?"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ROCK] 4999 @ 0.00070119 = 3.5052 BTC [-] {6}
danielpbarron: heh; I know one of the mods for nitrogen; he lives in the town over from me; met him face-to-face for some BTC deals
danielpbarron: even got him on irc, but he refused to join the WoT and i eventually told him to buzz off
ThickAsThieves: danielpbarron everything is about you
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.0007934 = 7.0216 BTC [+]
rithm: i spend a majority of my day hanging on danielpbarron's every line of text.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves the kid has a lot of zeal doesn't he ?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron dedication is a virtue, but too much of a virtue can be a sin. even your church preaches temperance, does it not ?
mircea_popescu: !s birdman
ThickAsThieves: i ordered two t-shirts with a btc logo in the style of a citi bank logo
danielpbarron: self-control is certainly a requirement for salvation
ThickAsThieves: they came just fine
ThickAsThieves: now the company says they were sorry for misprint and will send more
ThickAsThieves: free shirtz!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31850 @ 0.00079169 = 25.2153 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24100 @ 0.0007934 = 19.1209 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 217 @ 0.00269732 = 0.5853 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17150 @ 0.00078633 = 13.4856 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.71011060 BTC to 12`743 shares, 13420 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 18.20431004 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1583 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4000 @ 0.00259864 = 10.3946 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 480 @ 0.00263166 = 1.2632 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 231 @ 0.00274498 = 0.6341 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6344 @ 0.00078198 = 4.9609 BTC [-]
mthreat: mircea_popescu: me gusta el articulo sobre el default. pero escribiste "Cristina" como "Christina"
assbot: Moscow Stock Exchange Breaks - Trading Halted | Zero Hedge
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1097 @ 0.00274489 = 3.0111 BTC [-] {6}
artifexd: True story: My wife and my daughter are both named "Cristina"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 690 @ 0.00274998 = 1.8975 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00079114 = 11.1551 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: 'One glimpse at the following chart of Russian stocks today and one wonders if the West needed to arrest the gains that their "costs" had imposed...'
asciilifeform: run more winblows.
asciilifeform: build more 'elbrus' wintel clones.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15350 @ 0.00079114 = 12.144 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24300 @ 0.00079139 = 19.2308 BTC [+] {2}
cgcardona: top of tha morning #bitcoin-assets o/
cgcardona: how many people have taken MP up on the ether deal? Is that data public?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6789 @ 0.00079114 = 5.371 BTC [-]
cgcardona: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 571.01, Best ask: 572.45, Bid-ask spread: 1.44000, Last trade: 571.01, 24 hour volume: 7264.21567232, 24 hour low: 568.0, 24 hour high: 586.0, 24 hour vwap: 576.187508687
mircea_popescu: mthreat well it's in english :[
mthreat: ok Mercha
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27500 @ 0.00078739 = 21.6532 BTC [-] {2}
mthreat: 95.1 FM in buenos aires, talking about btc right now
assbot: Metro 95.1 - FM 95.1 - Buenos Aires, Argentina - Listen Online
mircea_popescu: cgcardona nobody.
mircea_popescu: mthreat omfg that's evil.
assbot: Granite Island Group
asciilifeform: (99% facts, 1% 'anyone who demos a 'tempest' setup is both con artist and criminal, plug yer ears')
asciilifeform: (scroll down, author revealed... certified usg stooge)
asciilifeform: why they always must brag? were they quiet, they might actually fool somebody
mircea_popescu: depends who that somebody is.
asciilifeform: rather like the apparently inexhaustible scamz0rs who post proposal for whatever, and you scroll, see 'member of btc Phoundation'
asciilifeform: at that point, if he says 'sky is blue', you find yourself going out with a spectrometer - can't take his word...
mircea_popescu: something like that.
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Twitter stock to close at over $45 in 2014 " http://bitbet.us/bet/971/ Odds: 77(Y):23(N) by coin, 75(Y):25(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.5999 BTC. Current weight: 77,299.
FabianB: $traded
empyex: FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE X.EUR
FabianB: $t s.mpoe
empyex: FabianB: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00078699 high: 0.00080517 low: 0.00077883 volume: 978173 btc: 769.8098509 7 day: average: 0.0008004 high: 0.0008234 low: 0.00077883 volume: 4304098 btc: 3445.00297641 30 day: average: 0.00080474 high: 0.0008949 low: 0.00074501 volume: 11886294 btc: 9565.34374542
mircea_popescu: "When I am observing the Arnhem chimpanzees I sometimes feel I am studying Freud’s primal horde; as if a time machine has taken me back to prehistoric times, so that I can observe the village life of our ancestors. They still accept the droit du seigneur, one of the forgotten products of western culture. When Yeroen was the alpha male, he alone was responsible for about three-quarters of all matings. Not counting sex
mircea_popescu: ual intercourse with young females (who arouse less rivalry), his share was almost 100 %. Sex was his monopoly in the group." (de Waal 1990: 167-168).
mircea_popescu: remarkable that chimps are saner than people, and don't really care about the young girls.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nothing specifically primate here. consider the elephant seal, etc
mircea_popescu: !spank kakobrekla
assbot: spank kako spank!
mircea_popescu: ;;google go go second time virgin
gribble: Go, Go Second Time Virgin (1969) - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065233/>; Go, Go, Second Time Virgin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go,_Go,_Second_Time_Virgin>; Koji Wakamatsu's Go, Go Second Time Virgin – Offscreen: <http://offscreen.com/view/wakamatsu1>
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16903 @ 0.00079199 = 13.387 BTC [+] {2}
kakobrekla: >Wikipedia Now Accepts Bitcoin Donations With Coinbase
kakobrekla: Posted 1 hour ago
mthreat: i went to give $50 and the form required a name and email address, and i left
xmj: fluffypony: we've launched iteration II
assbot: Perceivon Hosting Inc.
artifexd: !spank mircea_popescu
artifexd: boooo
assbot: spank mp spank
mircea_popescu: donating to wikipedia is kind of like donating to korea's rocketry programme. even if it were valid science i still wouldn't do it.
artifexd: kakobrekla: How does assbot come up with the abbreviations for responding to spank?
kakobrekla: NN algo.
artifexd: No. Seriously.
kakobrekla: seriously.
artifexd: What was the training material?
kakobrekla: 26 years of kako
artifexd: You say "NN". I read "Neural Net". Did I misread?
fluffypony: Non Nude?
mthreat: mircea_popescu: I guess I want it to stick around, so i want to donate
artifexd: Maybe nearest neighbor. That would make your response more sensical.
mircea_popescu: assbot's a sloot.
assbot: spank arti spank
artifexd: !s spank
kakobrekla: artifexd it is i, leclerc.
mthreat: now when I read ben lawsky's name, I read it in my head as "ben lolsky"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34000 @ 0.00078808 = 26.7947 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: it is a lawly name.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37889 @ 0.00078469 = 29.7311 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20999 @ 0.00078264 = 16.4347 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Bitcoin trading website accused of defrauding thousands of customers - LA Times
rithm: mmhmmmm
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: letter to the sultan!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hm ?
asciilifeform: obligatory:
mircea_popescu: ;;rate coingenuity -1 http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-bitcoin-defrauding-20140729-story.html apparently there's substance to all those nondelivery claims ?
assbot: Bitcoin trading website accused of defrauding thousands of customers - LA Times
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user coingenuity has been recorded.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform :p
mircea_popescu: i didn't think the rss had propagated yet.
rithm: mtgox may have done in whatever coinabul's business model was
rithm: personal speculation
mod6: hrm. I placed 2 small orders and recieved, but that was over a year ago :/
rithm: my orders were small and delayed
rithm: but received
rithm: i think the business model had a side business involving time-value
rithm: hence delay
rithm: but i have no proof of this
BigBitz: but coinginuity always claimed to be a multi-millionaire metal dealer. etc.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.00078252 = 17.1372 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: ;;seen coinginuity
gribble: I have not seen coinginuity.
rithm: BigBitz i believe this to be a fabrication
BigBitz: What's that?
BigBitz: his multi-millionaire aspect? :p
rithm: correct.
fluffypony: or the part where he beats people up outside bars
thickasthieves: ;;seen coingenuity
gribble: coingenuity was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 23 weeks, 6 days, 16 hours, 58 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <coingenuity> mircea_popescu: there's a lot of them
kakobrekla: yeah i thought i seen him here
mod6: he's in here now, just not voiced.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22900 @ 0.00078094 = 17.8835 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: Kraken - 6 months and still cannot get my money
kakobrekla: the PR reply starts with
kakobrekla: Hi shardymop - I'm really sorry about the trouble you've been having
kakobrekla: goxitup!
kuzetsa: hmm
kuzetsa: I'm flattered I suppose --- someone from here (presumably) is vaguely stalking me & now following me on twitter O_O
artifexd: ;;later tell jurov Did you come up with a script for the wot video? Do you still need somebody to record the mac version?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
kuzetsa: whoever is @Bitcoin_Assets, I assume, is from in here (though I could be mistaken in that assumption)
kakobrekla: kuzetsa i think tat has that.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21390 @ 0.00077844 = 16.6508 BTC [-] {2}
thickasthieves: stalking, research, what's the difference
thickasthieves: you were being elusive so i googled
jurov: artifexd i'm looking forward to a mostly offline week, scripting will come later.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HASH] 25 @ 0.022 = 0.55 BTC
jurov: tat is into grandmas?
thickasthieves: grandma?
assbot: Adverse Job Impact of the DFS BitLicense Proposal
thestringpuller: WoT video?
thestringpuller: !s wot video
thestringpuller: !s web of trust video
artifexd: !s wot recording
artifexd: Summary: Make a few videos showing how to register a nick, create a key, register in the wot.
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6211 @ 0.00078368 = 4.8674 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6763 @ 0.00078736 = 5.3249 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Implement “UTXO commitments” blockchain pruning and “fully validating but not full-history” nodes << Killing this is basically the goal of Fall 2014-2015
jborkl: where is the mpex.co site now?
BingoBoingo: mpex.ws
jborkl: sweet, thank you
jurov: $proxies
empyex: jurov: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz mpex.coinbr.com MPEx-Status: 931 milliseconds Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91
jborkl: answered my next question
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 989 @ 0.0025807 = 2.5523 BTC [-] {19}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17026 @ 0.00078755 = 13.4088 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 313241 | Current Difficulty: 1.8736441558310238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 314495 | Next Difficulty In: 1254 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 1 hour, 4 minutes, and 43 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 19751039961.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 5.41511
kakobrekla: this thing is like a virus.
fluffypony: ;;seen mircea_popescu
gribble: mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 2 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> i didn't think the rss had propagated yet.
fluffypony: such quiet
kakobrekla: go back to work!
fluffypony: kakobrekla: you're not the boss of me!
kakobrekla: i do what i want!
fluffypony: go to your room!
fluffypony: oh wait, this is your room
fluffypony: nm then
kakobrekla: just on paper.
fluffypony: such benevolence :-P
assbot: has 'blocktech' been associated with anything other than pump and dumps?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12524 @ 0.00078651 = 9.8503 BTC [-] {2}
fluffypony: brought to you by the David Seaman circlejerk
fluffypony: !up FoOdies5
fluffypony: !up neuroMode
fluffypony: FoOdies5, neuroMode, you guys have interacted with blocktech no?
fluffypony: or just with Weiner?
FoOdies5: just weiner
FoOdies5: lol can't even type his name without smiling
FoOdies5: 8bit interacted with one of their devs
fluffypony: this whole Naut / Dirac thing seems like one continuous stream of bullshit
FoOdies5: personally
FoOdies5: it's in my top 10 ongoing retarded crypto schemes list
FoOdies5: near the top
FoOdies5: firstly a coin created by a wallstreet guy is obviously a get rich quick/slow scheme
FoOdies5: either way it's a scheme
fluffypony: with a "stabilisation fund" that hasn't stabilised anything
FoOdies5: and dirac ... wat ?
FoOdies5: what the fuck can you stabilize with a premine ?
FoOdies5: maybe keep the coin from going up
FoOdies5: by dumping
FoOdies5: that you can do
Duffer1: i read that as blatant manipulation, we just use different words
FoOdies5: either way it's clear cut what the goal of that coin is
FoOdies5: so it baffles me why anyone in their right mind would invest in it
fluffypony: tbh I don't know if the NBC "contributor" / blogger dude intended it that way
FoOdies5: except maybe if he can outtrade the owner and get some money
FoOdies5: or ride it
fluffypony: the article he wrote was all like "this is my little experiment"
fluffypony: and I think Weiner et. al. convinced him it could be "bigger" than an experiment
Duffer1: consider the audience foodies, reddit/bitcointalk "investors"
FoOdies5: or a social experiment to see how dumb people can be
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 285 @ 0.0025 = 0.7125 BTC [-]
fluffypony: that too
FoOdies5: Duffer1 I applaud your quotes
FoOdies5: sorry I was helping preggers get ready for sleep
fluffypony: how far along is she?
FoOdies5: 9 months yesterday
fluffypony: I think it's about time
FoOdies5: ticking timebomb
fluffypony: I'm guessing, though
FoOdies5: I swear she's waiting to steal my birthday
FoOdies5: which is tomorrow (1st aug)
FoOdies5: her mom stole it by setting our wedding date on my b-day
FoOdies5: and now the daughter wants to be born on my b-day
FoOdies5: fucking women
FoOdies5: .... wait that's how I got in this whole mess to begin with ... by fucking women
FoOdies5: so scratch that
BigBitz: fuck men?
BigBitz is out...
fluffypony: BigBitz has a point
FoOdies5: out in a blaze of glory
FoOdies5: seriously tho when the fuck is Kubo gonna switch to Bach vs Squad 0 fights already
FoOdies5: this zombies shit is boooooring
fluffypony: I have no idea what you just said
neuroMode: unfortunately for NAUT
FoOdies5: manga
FoOdies5: Bleach
neuroMode: I think Brian Kelly is shooting himself in the foot by listening to the cryptogoblins pushing for POS
fluffypony: FoOdies5: aaah, outside of my wheelhouse
fluffypony: neuroMode: agreed
neuroMode: Naut immediately becomes a pyramid scheme
neuroMode: like all other POS coins
fluffypony: I can't look at a PoS coin without thinking it stands for "piece of shit"
neuroMode: agreed
neuroMode: its almost like its a joke
neuroMode: purposefully named with that acronym
neuroMode: i mean...let's create artificially rare coins that only have a week of distribution
neuroMode: now, let's all make it our job to try and convince someone else to buy it for more than we paid
neuroMode: with no other means of obtaining it
fluffypony: I don't fundamentally have an issue with PoS as an experiment (albeit one doomed for failure at present)
fluffypony: I just hate this bait-and-switch tactic that seems to be common
neuroMode: it becomes very obviously a pyramid scheme no matter how well disguised the marketing campaign is
neuroMode: and you know a dev is naive
fluffypony: launch a PoW shitcoin, and then "suddenly" announce it's changing to PoS
neuroMode: when he succumbs to his community's derailed wishes to turn POS
neuroMode: yep. its all the cryptogoblins that pout about inflation and have a very narrow scope of cryptocurrencies
FoOdies5: what's tiresome is the endless waves of supporters for these piles of shit
neuroMode: indeed
neuroMode: it never ends
neuroMode: no matter how muhc money people lose
neuroMode: cryptocurrencies are more of a casino to gamble at
neuroMode: than any real 'investment'
neuroMode: to the majority of people nowadays
fluffypony: I wonder how much of it is the same group of retards investing in a new shitcoin hoping to get rich
neuroMode: i wonder how many actual devs there are making these coins. Its likea fucking business now. I bet its like 5 groups of guys
neuroMode: its all too cookie-cutter
neuroMode: same logo designs
fluffypony: thickasthieves is best altcoin dev
assbot: The Real Altcoin (ATC) – Never Mine Another Altcoin Again
neuroMode stops everything im doing, dumps all other altcoins, and buys Altcoin
neuroMode: game over man
fluffypony: done and dusted
fluffypony: I see the new thing is you have to release a whitepaper
fluffypony: but it shouldn't have any maths or cryptography in
fluffypony: just nonsensical diagrams and walls of text written by a monkey
neuroMode: a glorified OP post
neuroMode: its such a disgrace to what actual research/white papers are
fluffypony: mypersonal favourite is the SummerCoinV2 whitepaper
neuroMode: u have a quicklink?
fluffypony: that's an image from it
assbot: Dropbox - Navajo Anonymous Technology Whitepaper(English).pdf
fluffypony: I believe that all altcoins in the future should include Star Gates
fluffypony: I'm disappointed that thickasthieves hasn't even bothered releasing a whitepaper promising Choctaw Star Gates for Altcoin
BingoBoingo: <fluffypony> I don't fundamentally have an issue with PoS as an experiment (albeit one doomed for failure at present) << Proof of Stake essentially lets big bagholders delude themselves longer by becoming still bigger bagholders
neuroMode: Navajo Anonymous Technology Whitepaper AKA FAQ
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: yep - what I meant is that I don't have a problem if someone launches a PoS coin with something fundamentally different to PPC, I don't think it's bad to play with stuff in a real-world environment
fluffypony: but they break their social contract when they launch as one thing and then suddenly change to another
neuroMode: pre-fucking-cisely
BingoBoingo: Well, the same breach happens when a coin switches from mining its own chain to merged mining
BingoBoingo: Many a lower case altcoin died that way
neuroMode: it just emphasizes the pointlessness and aimlessness of the coin, and makes the coin now flagged for possible scam
FoOdies5: BingoBoingo merged mining should be a feature for niche coins
FoOdies5: coins with the purpose of serving small niches that won't attract big mining
fluffypony: the ones that need to peg to another blockchain for security
BingoBoingo: FoOdies5: Not really, the market forces merged mining brings a lot of coins to an early slaughter.
BingoBoingo: Larger miners have an incentive to dump immediately
FoOdies5: so that via merged mining they secure their chain in exchange for a part of their reward
FoOdies5: merged mining + lower coinbase for auxpow
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: if it becomes the "in thing" to use your own cryptocurrency for loyalty systems we may see more of this
FoOdies5: they need to offer as much as they're willing to get dumped
FoOdies5: exactly fluffypony
BingoBoingo: !up FoOdies5
BingoBoingo: !up neuroMode
BingoBoingo: FoOdies5: There's also the chance that the big miner that picks up a coin for Merged mining won't be friendly to it, see CoiledCoin as an early example
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3000001 = 0.6 BTC [+]
FoOdies5: I'm not aware of it's fate
FoOdies5: tl;dr ?
fluffypony: FoOdies5: it merge-mined with Bitcoin
fluffypony: so Luke-Jr used the hashing power on Eligius to 51% attack the coin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3000001 = 0.6 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: !up Luke-Jr
kakobrekla: told ya, child rapists.
fluffypony: a lot of miners got pissy that Luke-Jr was using their hash without their permission
ben_vulpes: man can we yet drop this btc thing and just start using integer satoshi plz?
ben_vulpes: yet? still? now?
FoOdies5: what a complete douche
fluffypony: ben_vulpes: we first have to move to "Bits"
ben_vulpes: fluffypony: bwaaaaat
fluffypony: and then argue for a few years
ben_vulpes: infinity
ben_vulpes: there's a limit, let's go to it.
fluffypony: did you hear about the Blockchain.info iOS wallet?
ben_vulpes buries head in co--
FoOdies5: what about it ?
ben_vulpes: no what
fluffypony: I think it runs in Bits by default
ben_vulpes: what is a fucking Bit
fluffypony: when you click on a payment link
FoOdies5: how much is Bit ?
fluffypony: it assumes you're paying in Bits
fluffypony: FoOdies5: 100 satoshis
ben_vulpes: ffs are you serious?
fluffypony: they patched it
fluffypony: but not before people made payments that were 1/100000 of what they meant to pay
ben_vulpes: mediocre engineers as far as the eyes can see
ben_vulpes sticks his head back into the code-sands
fluffypony: this is the problem that occurs when "functional tests" involve "I can send and receive 0.0005 BTC"
FoOdies5: scarcity side-effect
FoOdies5: people will fuck up when they have a gazillion decimals to work with
kakobrekla: i did the scaling long ago btw
assbot: Why I'm switching to mXBT and why you should too
fluffypony: I thought we all agreed we were going to switch to Tonal Bitcoin?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.29083333 = 1.745 BTC [-] {3}
FoOdies5: are all crypto enthusiasts doing drugs ?
FoOdies5: tortilla recipe
fluffypony: how am I ever going to be able to say :"just send ma 4.3743 BongBitcoin"
ben_vulpes: i hate you all
FoOdies5: why me ?
fluffypony: no you don't
FoOdies5: I'm new here
FoOdies5: semi
fluffypony: on that high note
fluffypony: I'm out
fluffypony: night all
kakobrekla: good luck
ben_vulpes: (i don't actually, fluffypony )
FoOdies5: gn fatso
BingoBoingo: FoOdies5: The short story of CoiledCoin is you need to find and read the long story to understand the things making lowercase altcoins fail have been happening for a long time as the Coiled Coin story makes an interesting contrast to other altcoins which were its contemporaries and still died albeit in other ways
BingoBoingo: This current drama with Doge, LTC, ethereum et al happened before 2-3 years ago
BingoBoingo: !up FoOdies5
BingoBoingo: !up neuroMode
neuroMode: BingoBoingo, do you have a good link for CoiledCoin?
FoOdies5: I just googled it
FoOdies5: the dev is basically saying Luke-Jr is a douche in the op
BingoBoingo: neuroMode: Maybe? Maybe the searching is part of the point? Searching gets you the failure of its comtemporaries as well if you dig right
FoOdies5: and declaring the coin dead
neuroMode: lmgtfmyself
BingoBoingo: FoOdies5: You merely found the post. Find the narrative, the story behind it.
BingoBoingo: Also apparently mircea_popescu is unwelcome in West Virginia http://gawker.com/woman-walks-naked-man-on-dog-leash-puts-unknown-object-1613629007
assbot: Woman Walks Naked Man on Dog Leash, Puts Unknown Object in His Anus
BingoBoingo: July 30th, 2014 Sprint and Skynet collude to officially reveal the Shitternet, asp predicted by asciilifeform and others http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/07/30/sprint-tries-a-facebook-only-wireless-plan/
assbot: Sprint Will Sell a $12 Wireless Plan that Only Connects to Facebook or Twitter - Digits - WSJ
ben_vulpes: !spank BingoBoingo
ben_vulpes: oh hue this isn't actually a thing
BingoBoingo: Well, not yet
assbot: spank bingo spank
ben_vulpes: coinabul a shit?
ben_vulpes: slash scam?
BingoBoingo: Long been a shit, ask coingenuity
BingoBoingo: !up coingenuity
BingoBoingo: You can ask him questions, but given his problems I doubt he'll assist in providing the opposition with discovery
ben_vulpes: i ain't askin nobody nuthin
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 205 Ask: 248 Last Price: 205 24h-Vol: 67k High: 210 Low: 203 VWAP: 206
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 520922.58 in 592 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -24.19
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 313249 | Current Difficulty: 1.8736441558310238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 314495 | Next Difficulty In: 1246 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 8 hours, 56 minutes, and 48 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 19706093769.1 | Estimated Percent Change: 5.17522
BingoBoingo: Fucking BitBet authors can make anything seem close
BingoBoingo: Apparently this dude who couldn't hit for a couple months is now actually in the rookie of the year race http://bitbet.us/bet/887/billy-hamilton-rookie-of-the-year/
assbot: BitBet - Billy Hamilton Rookie of the Year :: 0.08 B (28%) on Yes, 0.19 B (72%) on No | closing in 3 months 1 week| weight: 64`469 (100`000 to 1)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00078795 = 5.9096 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: <FoOdies5> maybe keep the coin from going up << and in the process acquire btc to drive it up. this is central banking 101, except one needs a) to not be a scammer and b) to actually work as marketmaker
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: b) to actually work as marketmaker << This is actually ATC's great innovation.
ben_vulpes: go on BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Well, it is the first viable alternative to testnet, because instead of an absence of value a la tetnet ATC offers at a minimum a small value. In the sense that someone is byuing ATC.
BingoBoingo: There is no promise that ATC's marketmaker will enforce any floor in price indefinitely, but the fact that the Market Marker's manager actually wants to buy metric fucktons of ATC means you can finally take crypto quarters to the arcade.
ben_vulpes: if only there were an arcade...
BingoBoingo: War of Life?
ben_vulpes: this microvalue routine of atc is pretty neat
ben_vulpes: not really an arcade in the classic sense. i'm barely old enough to remember the glory days.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: You know they still have that kind of arcade in highway rest stop pornstores
BingoBoingo: Or are you not talking about the jackoff booths?
ben_vulpes: mnope.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34950 @ 0.00079276 = 27.707 BTC [+] {2}
ben_vulpes: (i was working on a glory hole joke)
ben_vulpes: but no - actual arcades.
ben_vulpes: so funny story
ben_vulpes: one time when i was but a wee benkay a friend and i converted some dollars into nickels, for to haul to the nickel arcade. we were walking up hawthorne in portland (which back in those days the Arby's might still have been operational or it might have been shuttered but in either case it wasn't actually demolished and turned into yuppy 'condo' shoeboxen yet), when of course some of the summertime transients petition us for our quarters
ben_vulpes: the particularly scruffy one gets butthurt about hearing my nickles jingle (what - i'm a joo, it turns me on) and makes a grab at me
ben_vulpes: i dodge - shit you not i kick his ankle and then run into the parking lot, where (again, not shitting in the slightest) he chases me in circles while his friend smokes a cigarette next to my friend.
ben_vulpes: eventually the hobo tires and gives up.
ben_vulpes: this is what growing up in portland was like.
assbot: Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2FCDCD6.txt )
ben_vulpes: incompetent and easily winded muggers
BingoBoingo: !up mike_c
mike_c: hey. thanks for the bump atruk.
BingoBoingo: mike_c: You are welcome
BingoBoingo: mike_c: WoL is only the third MPEx backed game I've liked. The first was BitBEt, second world domination, third WoL.
ben_vulpes: !down mike_c
ben_vulpes: !up mike_c
mike_c: psh, anybody can do world domination
mike_c: hell the *french* did it once
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BingoBoingo: mike_c> psh, anybody can do world domination << Napoleon could even take Ethiopia which was such an easy target the fucking Dagos took it a century later
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> Also apparently mircea_popescu is unwelcome in West Virginia << how do you know she wasn't coming over to my place for a fuckvisit and taking her husband along for company ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> <BingoBoingo> Also apparently mircea_popescu is unwelcome in West Virginia << how do you know she wasn't coming over to my place for a fuckvisit and taking her husband along for company ? << Well, I figure if you put up with the US Border shit you'd stay long enough to need to take the girls and various collected officials for a walk
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BingoBoingo: So... Today I've found the perfect mobile phone. The Alcatel 871. It makes and recieves phone calls. It lets you text so you can get bitches. It has a built in flashlight. Also the ringer is totes loud so you can safely set it some distance from "the cage" and anything important
mircea_popescu: there';s a funny thing about that. around here the dogwalking service is very popular as a thing
mircea_popescu: there you go donw the street and you suddenly meet this dogflower/amoeba made out of 10-30 dogs connected to a one guy pistil
BingoBoingo: lol here people have yards so they assume their dogs exercise themselves and both get fat, unless they have a motivated dog who takes walks at night at roughly the same time I do.
mike_c: BingoBoingo:Apparently this dude who couldn't hit for a couple months is now actually in the rookie of the year race << lol. this is the bet you were swearing was ridiculous a few months ago right?
BingoBoingo: mike_c: It is indeed
mircea_popescu: Barbara Jean "B.J." Geardello << this is a sort of gear bordello ?
mike_c: bitbet makes us all look dumb.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I's have to assume a fake name
mircea_popescu: !up duduqa
BingoBoingo: mike_c: In this case I'm more of the opionion every other rookie is just sucking so much dick this year.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo yet another way the usps lets everyone down, man and his friend alike
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It may be surprising but USPS is only shipper around here I like.
mircea_popescu: they do have this reputation for servicing shitholes...
Luke-Jr: fluffypony: lying isn't very nice
Luke-Jr: FoOdies5: ^
ben_vulpes: what's the lie, Luke-Jr ?
Luke-Jr: ben_vulpes: that Eligius was involved
Luke-Jr: also that there was an attacdk
Luke-Jr: I shut it down myself, without any need for attacks
ben_vulpes: how'd you do that?
Luke-Jr: the other miners were a joke, so I was pretty much 99% of the network
Luke-Jr: and I just set reasonable fee requirements that nobody bothered to pay
Luke-Jr: ie, the cost of actually processing the transaction - which was admittedly near infinite on a worthless scamcoin
mircea_popescu: guy could work in washington dc. "i didn't rape her your honor, i just slapped her around a little. with a club."
mircea_popescu: "she sucked at fucking anyway and was old and annoying"
dub: boat sailed on that analogy
dub: it was gods will that she submit remember
Luke-Jr: more like "she wanted to pay me for sex, and I refused"
mircea_popescu: so let's meet in the middle. "she wanted to buy birth control in my pharmacy so i shot her."
Luke-Jr: except I didn't shoot anyone
Luke-Jr: or do anything wrong
mircea_popescu: but there is a corpse.
Luke-Jr: nope
Luke-Jr: nobody got hurt
mircea_popescu: well that's good then
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: if the SEC dies because you set a precedent of non-cooperation, is that a corpse?
Luke-Jr: nonsense, it was just a fiction in the first place
Luke-Jr: fictional entities don't leave corpses
ben_vulpes: altcoins are fictional, bitcoin is the sole truth
mircea_popescu: there's a difference between fiction and convention.
ben_vulpes: that's some tortured logic.
mircea_popescu: this would be why your marriage does leave a corpse, while your boyhood dreams do not.
ben_vulpes: derps outside the office derping at each other
ben_vulpes: me: "hi."
ben_vulpes: derps: "derp derp derp"
ben_vulpes: me: "uh. well. enough. this is my place of business."
ben_vulpes: derp a to the right, derp b to the left.
ben_vulpes: silence reigns again.
ben_vulpes: well, order at the very least.
punkman: "We know you've grown up, and so has Gaia. That's why we've launched Tentacl, an engaging forum experience created for savvy adults like you"
punkman: it doesn't even have any tentacle porn
mircea_popescu: maybe you've not stroked it enough.
mircea_popescu: ;;google YOU HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN MY FINAL FORM
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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: What I value about USPS is they deliver on a promised, fast timeline. Fedex and USPS seem to encounter... delays...
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mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo something in there wasn't right.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: In which thing?
ben_vulpes: UPS for the second instance i warrant
duduqa: Hi, folks! I'm just an average Joe from Brazil. Here are some mundane news in case it might be interesting for the logs: volume is rising at exchanges (not all of them are depicted at http://exchangewar.info/coinprice?BRL_BTC), price higer than the local blue dollar, facebook group at over 9,000 participants, Zipzap and equivalents working here. We have even our newborn bitpay-equivalent: pagcoin.com
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mircea_popescu: wait you got a blue dollar in brazil too ?!
BingoBoingo: Fedex has the weird routing, but UPS has hubs in nowheresville so far removed from my nowheresville when there's actually a UPS hub near an urban center close to my middle of nowhere
duduqa: yes...we have the ptax\commercial dollar (cheaper, used for credit card purchases) and the blue dollar, which is roughly the ptax + 6.38% international purchase tax (which you have to pay in case you use your credit or debit card)
duduqa: at the top of the bubble, price reached over USD 1,400 here
duduqa: Brazilian most popular finance website (infomoney.com.br) quotes the bitcoin price and has a dedicated bitcoin columnist - Fernando Ulrich (pretty good)
mircea_popescu: pretty cool.
mircea_popescu: any idea why is it called blue dollar ? rather than maroon or w/e ?
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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: For same reason as Blue Balls
BingoBoingo: ;;ud blue balls
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duduqa: hehehehe
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: isn't the whole point of the theoretical 'printed arms' that - no one but owner knows he has them ?
duduqa: in Brazil we call "dolar paralelo"
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: perhaps the individual components could be made inscrutable and pieced together into a working...piece?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: this already exists, is called 'hardware store'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that can't be right.
duduqa: small meetups are happening, small whatsapp groups are forming and people are slowling buying, fearing another maxidevaluation of BRL
assbot: Bitcoin trading website accused of defrauding thousands of customers - LA Times
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mircea_popescu: duduqa is that likely ?
duduqa: It's actually taken for granted by most of the local economists
dub: dis luke, get ddos
dub: praise teh lord
duduqa: as of today, 1 USD = 2,25 BRL
mircea_popescu: so 2what's expected, 2.75 something ?
BingoBoingo: !up duduqa
BingoBoingo: >3 prolly
duduqa: I don't know, but I'd rather have my exposure reduced once the Fed rises (even minimally) its rates
BingoBoingo clarifies that is not greater than three, but an actual lion with physical delivery
duduqa: It's been easier to "sell" the bitcoin idea during these times of fear of becoming another Venezuela
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that can't be right << ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform " isn't the whole point of the theoretical 'printed arms' that"
mircea_popescu: what, no 3d printer kid so far shot anyone.
mircea_popescu: obviously the point must be something else than actual use.
asciilifeform: hence 'theoretical'
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell thickasthieves "<<" has won over "//"
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell chetty "<<" has won over "//"
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: slashers are bad mmmkay ?
ben_vulpes: f y'alls i
asciilifeform: (as advanced by 'any day now we shall print hardened steel' folks)
ben_vulpes: no hardened steel necessary, simply visit...hardware store.
ben_vulpes: (printing belongs in that somewhere)
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> hence 'theoretical' << Home depot uzi is a more feasible thing the 3d printed
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: for some reason, there is this cult of 'automation' where user doesn't have to use his hands
mircea_popescu: kuzetsa: I'm flattered I suppose --- someone from here (presumably) is vaguely stalking me & now following me on twitter O_O << you knwo, someone following you on twitter is not stalking in any sense.
asciilifeform: otherwise ordinary cnc milling would've been the focus of the 'printed arms' crap
asciilifeform: long ago.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i'd still rather have a CNC mill again than any 3d printer.
asciilifeform purchased a small cnc mill today, for < 1 btc equiv.
ben_vulpes: in my experience it's slightly more cost effective (and entertaining!) to buy an actual fuck-off big-boy-pants mill and bolt the steppers on oneself.
ben_vulpes: but who has time for such.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: this normally requires 3-phase mains. and... a crane. and a concrete slab to park it...
mircea_popescu: @SecondMarket Can I be CEO? << no tat, that' the onl;y thing you can't be. everything elkse tho..
mircea_popescu: wide open.
mircea_popescu: DeusCerehling say wut ?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: my niggas need educating how much do I have to pay you to whip em in to shape if I sent them to Argentina?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller i only do girls.
thestringpuller: I can send the females. No putting your penis inside them tho as form of payment. :P
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, random stuff from my pmbox : "That hot lesbian dentist bought 0.5 BTC today"
mircea_popescu: fancy the odds!
mike_c: why are you guys negrating based on some latimes story that offered zero actual facts?
BingoBoingo: I can send the females. No putting your penis inside them tho as form of payment. :P << I assume this is a part of the process
mike_c: all i saw in there was a link to the forums..
mircea_popescu: mike_c fact one is that the guy who used to claim he has >1k undelivered actually has a name now ; fact two is that this has been a topic of conversation here, for months.
BingoBoingo: <mike_c> Actual facts have been known since late 2012. Coinabul indeed broke bad.
asciilifeform: process << sending coal to newcastle? why send girls to mircea_popescu ?
asciilifeform is confused
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform more like sending gems to antwerp.
mircea_popescu: so as to be polished fine.
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mike_c: !s coinabul
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: this normally requires 3-phase mains. and... a crane. and a concrete slab to park it... << crane's unnecessary. mill needen't be *that* big.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes not everyone's vulpes benchpress, yo.
ben_vulpes: anyone who's not lifing heavy things regularly is going to rot quickly in their old age
mircea_popescu: i lift my cock to pee.
BingoBoingo: I lift my drink to... drink...
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mircea_popescu: one of the most wtf ads here is, "polenta. para quando necesitas polenta".
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: one can rent a crane, sure. but if you don't already have a facility with 3phase and concrete slab, it is likely to cost more than you're willing to pay for a machine used on rare occasions
mircea_popescu: which literally says, cornmeal. for when you need cornmeal.
BingoBoingo: Well, if Imma make cornbread I need cornmeal.
ben_vulpes: yeah those cracked me up, mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo shockingly, cornbread is unknown here.
mircea_popescu: also most potato meals outside of "papas" which is bad fries
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Not too shocking, it is barely known here.
mircea_popescu: and their bread is an utter outrage. they have all these panaderias which sell sweets.
mircea_popescu: the bread is basically wonderbread french rolls.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i thought it was the mainstay of the deep south.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i love it.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'm in the south part of the midwest, but have lived close to the wire.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: this thing is like a virus. << it's like two viruses making out.
BingoBoingo hearts Cairo (pronounced Kay-ro)
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ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: 3-phase isn't that hard to come by.
mircea_popescu pronounced cairo kay-ro all over egypt, to much botherment of everyone.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: your house has 3phase mains? or you use a genset?
ben_vulpes: no. i rent space in places suited for their uses.
ben_vulpes: this bay in which my butt is parked right now has it, for example. and concrete floors.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu pronounced cairo kay-ro all over egypt, to much botherment of everyone. << You would get along nicely in the first place the Blacks won the Civil rights movement in the US.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: you could probably afford the services of an actual machinist for what this costs, no ?
mircea_popescu: i get along nice everywhere, much to the butthurt surprise of all the people who imagine themselves experts in the matter on the grounds of derping a lot on the subject, and then never getting along anywhere really.
ben_vulpes: were i actually cutting parts, that's what i'd do. were i to buy a mill upon which i wanted to crank recreationally, well, i'd do things recreationally.
mircea_popescu: like what, snort the span "?
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BingoBoingo: Cairo is basically the most civilized location in Illinois by virtue of being the Furthest from Shitcago.
asciilifeform confesses that he considered renting warehouse to house machines. then learned that, for what this would cost for ~1 year within practical driving distance, he could have a golden toilet nanofabricated atom by atom.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i'm paying 550/mo for this bay.
kakobrekla: how much do the toilets go for?
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: important question to answer before achieving world domination
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dat driving distance problem.
kakobrekla: asciilifeform is why im asking!
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Is your yard large enough for a corrugated metal shed?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: that's where the machines live now. not ideal, from standpoint of humidity & temperature, but practical.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Ah
BingoBoingo: So Home Depot still surpasses 3D printing yet again
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: played with the fancy self-leveling 'crete yet?
asciilifeform: self-leveling ?
ben_vulpes: yup. if i recall its mechanics correctly, it uses surface tension to approximate a very flat surface.
dub: not, say, gravity?
ben_vulpes: kinda goes without saying
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the shack has a sealed wooden floor, level enough for most purposes
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: the shack has a sealed wooden floor, level enough for most purposes << Given your humidity this isn;t a permanent solution>
ben_vulpes: my concrete laying days are long past me
ben_vulpes: my pipe laying days though...
mircea_popescu: FoOdies5: what the fuck can you stabilize with a premine ? maybe keep the coin from going up <<< this is exactly correct . the braindamage going on here is that fuckwits understand you need resources to prop a coin, and lackin any resources they wish to... borrow them. since they're making a coin anyway it's ~easier~ to roll both into one. that this reduces to trying to pull yourself up by your own breeches is not some
mircea_popescu: rthing they'd notice.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: neither the shack, nor the house it comes with, nor its contents, are 'permanent solutions'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform im frankly surprised you got a yard in dc.
mircea_popescu: forget all the weird machinery, install sundecks, allow desperate 30yo womenz to sun themselves for a blowjob + $100.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ~8km from it
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: issue 'bastard files' to the womenz? substitute for milling?
dub: !ticker h am1
assbot: [HAVELOCK:AM1] 1D: 0.27000000 / 0.30584317 / 0.34100000 (277 shares, 84.71855920 BTC), 7D: 0.12699999 / 0.2114412 / 0.34100000 (1276 shares, 269.79896649 BTC), 30D: 0.12200001 / 0.1894769 / 0.34100000 (3066 shares, 580.93617939 BTC)
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: and I think Weiner et. al. convinced him it could be "bigger" than an experiment <<< kinda remind me of the pernicious influence of max keiser, with his couple of scamcoins.
mircea_popescu: he recently convinced weev to "go the kickstarter route", with results that still make people lol.
mircea_popescu: basically people need to learn to stop taking talking heads srsly.
dub: wait for the crash when forumites realise there is no div money in the kitty
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> he recently convinced weev to "go the kickstarter route", with results that still make people lol. << Weev is going to learn the hard way he isn't old enough for Taleb or even Orlov's deference
mircea_popescu: FoOdies5: and now the daughter wants to be born on my b-day << it's pretty good sharing a bday with your daughter. you can take her drinking.
mircea_popescu: neuroMode: I think Brian Kelly is shooting himself in the foot by listening to the cryptogoblins pushing for POS << i still don't see how exactly they figure pos does anything, bitcoin is fucking white enough w/o it. but anyway, naut actually means chickpeas in romanian.
dub: saves carbon
dub: obv.
mircea_popescu: neuroMode: i wonder how many actual devs there are making these coins. Its likea fucking business now. I bet its like 5 groups of guys << more like 3.
asciilifeform: doesn't take a 'dev' to... run 'sed.'
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: mypersonal favourite is the SummerCoinV2 whitepaper << iut's fucking disgraceful these idiots are allowed to use any words they wish. bring back the classroom ruler i say.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think what's meant is someone with the label.
mircea_popescu: SID, self-identified devs.
mircea_popescu: ironically, because of idiocy like the us left and food stamps and the govt dole, people like armandi (who is still active btw) are making more moneys than your average ditch digger.
mircea_popescu: moral hazard right there.
ben_vulpes: what's armandi's scam?
mircea_popescu: !up neuroMode
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes originally, bitdaytrade.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: So many armandia scams. Labcoin is a recent one
neuroMode: "white enough w/o it"? implying POS is geared more towards upper middle class america?
BingoBoingo: neuroMode: No, tuned to Russian Oligarchs
mircea_popescu: neuroMode white is a very old political identification, as opposed to 1700s red.
dub: finally got around to ordering vdsl
neuroMode: im not well-hung politically, pardon me
dub: gotta get pr0ns fast
mircea_popescu: ie, the supporters of stewart against the parliament, and of louis against the french revolution.
neuroMode: but yeah, i can believe 3 groups have made making POS coins a business
mircea_popescu: arguably franco spain was the last white thing.
BingoBoingo: dub: Find a nice camgirl, invite her to your home.
kakobrekla: HIV HD
neuroMode: and they will continue to reel in the suckers every week
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> arguably franco spain was the last white thing. << Well, until 2011
dub: hivvicams.co
assbot: The story of Pointless and Witless pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
dub: sry
neuroMode: or at least create an environment where altcoins are not taken anymore seriously than cards at a blackjack table
dub: hivvycam4btc.co
BingoBoingo: <neuroMode> or at least create an environment where altcoins are not taken anymore seriously than cards at a blackjack table << I doubt you understand how serious blackjack is
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo yeah but irl bitcoin is still more potential than actual cunt.
kakobrekla: dont do hd porn, you will end up on wiki searching up all the diseases.
neuroMode: i mean gambling wise. people know they will lose at times, they just put more money right back on the table
BingoBoingo: <kakobrekla> dont do hd porn, you will end up on wiki searching up all the diseases. << Good reason to avoid whores willing to negotiate prices (in the april and may logs)
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: the ones that need to peg to another blockchain for security << this is not really all that true, in general the best use of resources should be mining the chain rather than attacking it.
neuroMode: and chalk up your losses to either not counting cards well enough or just bad luck and use the experience for helping next time
mircea_popescu: ^ this use the experience for helping next time shizzle...
BingoBoingo: neuroMode: No, I mean exactly that. There is a way to win blackjack, and that is you get moar comped drinks than you lose at the table.
neuroMode: hahaha
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo that's not winning, that's getting drunk on your own success.
neuroMode: ok, fine.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo that's not winning, that's getting drunk on your own success. << What is a greater example of winning than losing exactly the house edge over 8 hours and drinking to success on the top shelf?
BingoBoingo: At least in Black Jack
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: but not before people made payments that were 1/100000 of what they meant to pay << fucking idiots for srs. 5 zeros ? why, because 8 and 5 are mutually prime ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you know they overcharge for the drinks.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well they don't overcharge the person they are comping...
mircea_popescu: but when you do your winning math
BingoBoingo: Since... they aren't charging
ben_vulpes: aren't all drinks outside the home overcharged for?
mircea_popescu: you count retail do you not.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> but when you do your winning math << I try to blackjack to the house edge.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes went out with some friends local thai restaurant, ordered champagne. pretty decent stuff. like 20 bux a bottle ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> you count retail do you not. I count versus package liquor store prices
mircea_popescu: went to bdsm event, bought champagne, pretty decent stuff. 30 bux a bottle.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo aok than.
BingoBoingo: Not casino bar prices
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i doubt you can have anything drinkable in the us for under 1k a bottle.
BingoBoingo: Sometimes I compare to the compromise favored hole in the wall bar prices.
mircea_popescu: haven't tested this extensively for lack of giving a shit.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo i doubt you can have anything drinkable in the us for under 1k a bottle. << I don't drink much wine, because I'm too picky for the normal local selection, but I'll get five bottles of Egri Bikaver at the supermarket in hopes I can three are palatable.
mircea_popescu: i never cared for hungarian wine.
BingoBoingo: It's better than what the Dagos ship here
mircea_popescu: yeah i believe it.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: get real, it's 200.
BingoBoingo: ;;ud dago
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dago | A highly offensive racial slur for an Italian. Comes from "Diego". If you call an Italian dago, he just might kick your lily white ass. by Common Sense7 October 06, ...
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes who is
ben_vulpes: acceptable bubbly.
mircea_popescu: how is diego supposed to be italian ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: In the Us it is.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the only time i had decent stuff in the us was in san antonio (for breakfast!) and i didn't pay. so pure guesswork on my part.
mircea_popescu: FoOdies5: are all crypto enthusiasts doing drugs ? << i'm not.
BingoBoingo: Generally though in the US bourbons and ryes are drinkable. Bottom shelf vodka is more drinkable than top shelf.
BingoBoingo: !up FoOdies5
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mircea_popescu: 1 double cherry truck of bitcoins = 960149127168 satoshi = 9601491.27168 mBTC = 9601.49127168 BTC << ahahh o kako!
BingoBoingo: Bottom shelf vodka is more drinkable than top shelf. << Reason for this is cheap American vodka starts with close to pure ethanol and is them water down to vodka
BingoBoingo: As linked a while back Mega factory MGD makes terrific rye whiskey so pick the cheapest label slapped on it
BingoBoingo: Honestly for Hard liquor in America, the more you pay the more likely you are to be scammed
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: Fucking BitBet authors can make anything seem close <<< clearly a conspiraci.
BingoBoingo: I'll confess to writing the 21 Billion at the end of meteorological summer bet. The Billy Hamilton bet though must have been Ohio scum.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: i dodge - shit you not i kick his ankle and then run into the parking lot, where (again, not shitting in the slightest) he chases me in circles while his friend smokes a cigarette next to my friend. << this sounds like a happy childhood.
BingoBoingo: I mean people emphasize the mean hobos while forgetting the friendly one
asciilifeform: but when you do your winning math << misread as 'but when you do your winning meth'
BingoBoingo: Because I simply cannot bring myself to throw away food, we are going to eat from the prison commissary tonight.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: 'twas a good childhood. you'd probably disapprove of how easily i had it, but it was nice.
mircea_popescu: !up jwSchool
ben_vulpes: chatting with garbage men in the alley while reading in my backyard bush
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i don't disprove at all. i had it easy too.
ben_vulpes: riding my bike all over town (what american child can ride a bike around their town?!)
mircea_popescu: my philosophy is not that it should be hard, but merely that if anyone complains, of anything, it should be made worse for them.
ben_vulpes: hahaha
mircea_popescu: like, chick's whining about her feet hurting ? well now she has to run around in a circle around me while i walk.
mircea_popescu: and if she complains again, bare knees on asphalt.
mircea_popescu: and generally you know, always give the worst worker the hardest job with the shittiest tools etc.
mircea_popescu: gotta pile it on.
ben_vulpes: okay i'm here for four more minutes
ben_vulpes: what should we do
jwSchool: complain?
mircea_popescu: who're you jew school ?
jwSchool: jw @ school
jwSchool: quassel@utdpat242006.utdallas.edu
ben_vulpes: jwoz hopefully
jwSchool: also
mircea_popescu: !up FoOdies5
FoOdies5: jwSchool don't sweat nigga all we romanians are douchey
FoOdies5: so jew jokes are a must
mircea_popescu: don;t be starting with me, i have a jewish friend
mircea_popescu: his name contains "douche"
FoOdies5: I have all kinds of friends
FoOdies5: doesn't hold me back from being racist and homophobic
jwSchool: I work with a romanian organic chemist
mircea_popescu: btw, are you on reddit ? you sound just like reddit.
jwSchool: she's got lovely teeth
BingoBoingo: FoOdies5: Are you a gypsy?
FoOdies5: I just watched boondocks
FoOdies5: see jwSchool ?
FoOdies5: we subject to racism too
FoOdies5: so it's cool
BingoBoingo: jwSchool: Know anything about chiral ladders?
mircea_popescu: reddit is not a race.
jwSchool not organic chemist, thankfully
FoOdies5: I was talking about the gypsy part
mircea_popescu: nm, it's a race to the bottom, my bad.
jwSchool: I'd rather not breathe chloroform and stuff all day
mircea_popescu: o god i love my own bad jokes.
mircea_popescu: jwSchool how do you plan to get laid ?
mod6: haha
FoOdies5: and I just said I just watched a few episodes of the boondocks so I might sound a bit ghetto for a while
jwSchool: by not being an organic chemist?
FoOdies5: give this man ops
FoOdies5: that was the answer of the month
BingoBoingo: jwSchool: Chlorophorm is easy, sodium hypochlorite solution + ETOH solution. Now transorming into dex-methoform is a challenge
FoOdies5: fuck zebracoin's saving endangered zebra species
mircea_popescu: <jwSchool> by not being an organic chemist? << not bad.
jwSchool: pandas are clearly safe
jwSchool: since they have several coins now
FoOdies5: wolong joke
ben_vulpes: adios gents
FoOdies5: I love being in the loop
FoOdies5: adios ben
FoOdies5: ze fox
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Bed time experiment still a thing?
ben_vulpes: notrly experimental any more
ben_vulpes: hard screens off at 1045 pm
ben_vulpes: w/out flux to change the daylight around, it'd have to be 945
FoOdies5: mircea_popescu you friends with zoso ?
mircea_popescu: with who ?
FoOdies5: whew
FoOdies5: I thought you were friends with some romanian douche blogger
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> hard screens off at 1045 pm << holy shit !?
mircea_popescu: FoOdies5 i think i'm well hated by virtually all the romanian would be bloggers.
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mircea_popescu: sort-of like i'm well hated by virtually all bitcoin would-be ceos.
FoOdies5: don't worry I don't like you that much either
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> <ben_vulpes> hard screens off at 1045 pm << holy shit !? << early to bed, early to rise...
FoOdies5: too pompous
ben_vulpes: okay gone f'reel nao
mircea_popescu: this guy must be getting some fearsome erections.
FoOdies5: I was refering to this "Bine ca l-au gasit pe cel cu rig-ul in pod si pe Vuscan, dar de Mircea Popescu (vechi prieten de al lui Zoso) – care are cea mai relevanta bursa de actiuni in bitcoin – nu au zis nimic."
FoOdies5: you a rap star now nigga, bitches claiming they know you and shit
mircea_popescu: well no, just, the ragazines that pretend to be romanian press have an ancient interdict with me, is the thing.
FoOdies5: srsly tho, good thing you're not friends with that shitface
FoOdies5: I would have hated you even more
mircea_popescu: some chick wanted to interview me once over a corruption scandal, pisse dme the fuck off, i ended up putting a pay barrier in place
mircea_popescu: and they really can't afford money.
mircea_popescu: FoOdies5 how do you know random nobodies from like nowehre to the degree you'd give a shit either way ?!
FoOdies5: oh please, have you ever seen these shitheads talk about bitcoin on tv ?
mircea_popescu: i dun watch tv.
asciilifeform: 's expensive these days
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform truely. everyone in some sectors is used to pay in promises.
FoOdies5: I was browsing one night and I stumbled upon a show talking about bitcoin
FoOdies5: a full half hour of the guy from btcxchange trying to explain bitcoin to an old ass relic
FoOdies5: shit was painfull to watch
mircea_popescu: FoOdies5 you old enough to have seen bruce wagner's old lolstuff ?
mircea_popescu: like the episode filmed in demo mode and so on ?
asciilifeform shudders to think of what kind of 'bitcoin' could be seen on u.s. tv
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FoOdies5: is that from 2012-2013 ?
mircea_popescu: his last thing was, iirc, interviewing the stupid-had-fuckface, before his innovative genuis idea turned scam
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo summarize it for me ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform shudders to think of what kind of 'bitcoin' could be seen on u.s. tv << I'll get you a video most horrifying
mircea_popescu: FoOdies5 2012 yes.
mircea_popescu: and 2011.
FoOdies5: I was too busy being in jail with the camataru brothers in 2012 lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13950 @ 0.00078789 = 10.9911 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: o wait, you're romanian ?
FoOdies5: watching taraf
FoOdies5: shit was bananas
mircea_popescu: why the fuck do you sound just like reddit then.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Basically trackbacks are great and you can curate them, but because link /= citation spammers on this protocol when identified need super spanked until they correct
FoOdies5: cuz I learned english from watching tv back when cartoon network was still not dubbed lol
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo but what's the offense, someone sending fake trackbacks that don't exist on the actual page ?
mircea_popescu: what, it's dubbed now ?!
FoOdies5: also I'm very maleable so whatever I watch on tv/laptop that day I kinda start talking like that
mircea_popescu: FUCK YOU DUB
FoOdies5: yeah it sucks major ass
FoOdies5: also the quality of the cartoons is next to nil
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Someone sending trackbacks I couldn't see, because linked in ad looking blindspot
mircea_popescu: cow and chicken was great.
mircea_popescu: no more of that huh ?
FoOdies5: damn right it was
mircea_popescu: ;;google 1990s animation golden age.
FoOdies5: I prefered I am weasel tho
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mircea_popescu: fu wikipedia cancer.
mircea_popescu: the tv tropes link is the link.
FoOdies5: yeah no now it's this stupid ass weirdly animated shit
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo just grep the html of the page, it's what i do.
FoOdies5: luckily there's boomerang who still broadcasts golden stuff
FoOdies5: like some hannah barbera shows
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: And that's why I had to assume spam.
FoOdies5: flintstones, jetsons some looney toons
BingoBoingo: Link to post was not visible without encondomed browser
FoOdies5: but seriously tho, seenig what kids these days grow up on, we're pretty much fucked
mod6: lol
BingoBoingo: But instead stuck in one of those ad things
FoOdies5: so save them bitcoins for old age
FoOdies5: because pensions are gone
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Maybe see if a neighbor girl can offer an explanation as a test?
mircea_popescu: wait the who what ?
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assbot: FBI-ul a cerut extradarea celui mai tare hacker din Romania. Reteaua ilegala avea si magazin online
FoOdies5: oops
FoOdies5: reteaua ilegala avea si magazin online, tare asta
mircea_popescu: lol i c.
BingoBoingo: FoOdies5: Are you USG in Costana entrapping?
FoOdies5: what's a USG ?
BingoBoingo: FoOdies5: UnSavory Garnish
FoOdies5: your joke was too smooth for me to handle
BingoBoingo: A la Mike Hearn
FoOdies5: I apologize
FoOdies5: I'm still not fine tuned with the high level of references used in bitcoin-assets
FoOdies5: I'll be ok after a few days
FoOdies5: Hell I managed to stay cell boss over some pretty badass guys
FoOdies5: I can manage y'all
FoOdies5: unless you ban me
mircea_popescu: the other one was better imo.
BingoBoingo: FoOdies5: For all I know you could have been an emigre at middle school age, and now you're a terminal lance stationed at Costana assigned to intel
mircea_popescu: i mean he still sucked, but at least he was better at it.
BingoBoingo: I mean DreadKnight at least showed a classic romanian taste in game aesthetics
FoOdies5: Constanta nigga
FoOdies5: damn
FoOdies5: stop saying it wrong
FoOdies5: I did have a friend that got busted 2 months after I did in constanta
FoOdies5: haha nigga was visiting some hacker friends trying to learn some new shit
FoOdies5: exactly when the cops came in
FoOdies5: I mean he also had a record but he did 4 months for visiting his friends tho
FoOdies5: shit was cash
BingoBoingo: FoOdies5: I'm sorry, I'm just a pasty white victim of violence in the Middle West.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00079353 = 4.5628 BTC [+]
FoOdies5: wait middlewest ?
FoOdies5: is that a thing ?
FoOdies5: where does it start ?
FoOdies5: belgium ?
BingoBoingo: It starts in Chiraq
BingoBoingo: And stretches to Kay-roh
FoOdies5: wait that's only west from a chinaman's perspective
FoOdies5: and such
FoOdies5: for me and mircea it's east
FoOdies5: well south and a little east
mod6: lol
mircea_popescu: dude i find it dubious you survived in prison, considering how much talking out of teh ass you do.
FoOdies5: I adapt
mircea_popescu: oh. so cell boss in THAT sense.
FoOdies5: no not THAT sense
FoOdies5: also prison !== preempttive arest
FoOdies5: single t*
kakobrekla: triple equal
FoOdies5: there's quite less violence and organization there
FoOdies5: as you're locked up 24/7
BingoBoingo is still in the russian concept of "Big Jail" over that alleged misdemeanor "turrurism" phone call
FoOdies5: with a small air break
FoOdies5: although trying to explain the concept to a pompous prick does seem like a lost cause
mircea_popescu: yeah, it sucks because you're in with noobs and not as likely to be able to bring massive support to bear.
mircea_popescu: which is why generally people prefer going with their retinue.
mircea_popescu: well, except the psychopaths.
FoOdies5: anyway, I'm out, perhaps we'll get the chance to meet in this lifetime I'd really love to flip you off in real life just for using unnecessarily complicated words in an irc channel
BingoBoingo: Eventually:
BingoBoingo is prolly going to have to walk to civilization
decimation: http://falkenblog.blogspot.com/2014/07/pikettys-terrifying-dystopia_27.html "Piketty is a modern progressive, best defined as someone who thinks intellectuals should run everything as the vanguard of the people, which is why academics, journalists, and writers are predominantly progressive."
assbot: Falkenblog: Piketty's Terrifying Dystopia
BingoBoingo: Because it looks like no scheduled court date I have is ever going to be an actual trial
mircea_popescu: decimation intellectuals SHOULD run everything. the only problem is that the courtiers of the french republic are not intellectuals.
decimation: some Marxists think that the ancien regime was unfairly taxed because the richest were taxed at the lowest rates (or immune from tax)
mircea_popescu: well what do they know.
decimation: this seems to be the right idea to me, the principle being that the state recognizes those who are beyond its reach
mircea_popescu: and it wasn;t the richest. it was the better. which is what the peerage is : the better people.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3074 @ 0.00078708 = 2.4195 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: A nasty old drunk in Carmel thinks it funny to piss in the well. He says, "Some don't favor that unusual flavor, but I don't drink the stuff -- what the hell!"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 5900 @ 0.00026477 = 1.5621 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 265 @ 0.00257044 = 0.6812 BTC [-] {6}
ben_vulpes: hey mircea_popescu how much for a two-fer?
ben_vulpes: can i get .3 for a two-fer?
mircea_popescu: A rapturous young fellatrix one day was at work on five pricks. With an unholy cry she whipped out her glass eye: "Tell the boys I can now take on six."
mircea_popescu: weren't you supposed to be in bed ?
ben_vulpes: psh do you even timezone
ben_vulpes: what does hard screens off have to do with why i logged off prev'ly?
ben_vulpes: that was in response to bb's q re bedtime experiment
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> okay gone f'reel nao << ?
ben_vulpes: yeah so i shut the laptop, what of it
mircea_popescu: anyway. what 2fer ?
ben_vulpes: 2 pairs of tits, one hash
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Are you really contacting your bouncer on a phone of some sort?
ben_vulpes: heck no BingoBoingo i'm just blessed with internet and gin wherever i goes
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes if it includes the woman that'll make a vulpe vulpes then by all means. BUT NONE OF THAT NO FACE BULLSHEIT.
ben_vulpes: you've been taking no face for weeks noW!
mircea_popescu: from whores. not from honest married young ladies.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Roll up screens? What is a hard vs. soft screen?
ben_vulpes: de facto standard!
mircea_popescu: speaking odf which, store here put bags on all the manequins heads with like "discount!!1" and so on . shit was eerie.
ben_vulpes: moving the goalposts on me boss this is not how you run a business
mircea_popescu: hey, you wanted a 50% salary hike not i.
ben_vulpes: aight give me a hash i'll see what i can do
ben_vulpes: .2 for no faces?
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> moving the goalposts on me boss this is not how you run a business << Check my tweets to Ben Lawsky I am running a charity
mircea_popescu: sure, they gotta come here and link to their previous work tho.
ben_vulpes: no previous work
ben_vulpes: virgins i tell ya
mircea_popescu: well then... let em do it right.
ben_vulpes: hash plz?
mircea_popescu: none of this toe in the large ocean of sluttery i say.
mircea_popescu: umm. we clear on teh terms ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HASH] 35 @ 0.022 = 0.77 BTC
ben_vulpes: yes. .3 for faces.
mircea_popescu: d49250d4
mircea_popescu: i feel like fucking robert redford over here.
mircea_popescu: only younger.
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: How do you feel today?
ben_vulpes: https://unsee.cc/podazuni/ | 1JpMfrhqRhUfPX58fSZS6frH9TCCM9CPun
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ben_vulpes: lol it came out upside down
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ^^
BingoBoingo: Fucking cock shit, this is why I bet on sports far less frequently than I used to.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7553 @ 0.00078708 = 5.9448 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes meh fucking js won't load for me
ben_vulpes: of all the...
danielpbarron: BingoBoingo, alright
mircea_popescu: lesee if i can dig it up
BingoBoingo: Oh, only 10 Wot Additions later than Ms. Boring
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Want to bet on something risky?
ben_vulpes: i'm emailing it to you.
BingoBoingo: ;;rate bitcoin girl -2 Nightwalker
gribble: Error: 'girl' is not a valid integer.
assbot: Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: but not the actual filename.
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: How comfortable do you feel that we can put a price on my ascending before next rollover?
ben_vulpes: no js is kinda your problem, mircea_popescu
ben_vulpes: anyone interested can see the thing, i'm also emailing it to you.
BingoBoingo: JS is everyone's problem. WHy did we let it start?\
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: pm
ben_vulpes: wow this girl's internet hates the bitcoin client
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mircea_popescu: ehehehe look at the pretty girls!
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i was expecting a lot more obvious drunkedness tbh. but sober ? maybe you should write a book.
ben_vulpes: anyways i'm back to the babes
ben_vulpes: catch y'all on the flipside
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski yo when do you bring the bittits?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !up The20YearIRCloud
The20YearIRCloud: I am so stupid
The20YearIRCloud: I figured out how to voice myself
The20YearIRCloud: after begging mircea_popescu 2514 times to show me how
The20YearIRCloud: */msg assbot !up
The20YearIRCloud: not */msg assbot !up the20year
The20YearIRCloud: pretty sure the shame has dropped by IQ by at least 20 points
The20YearIRCloud: I'm now eligible to live in detroit :(
BingoBoingo: Living in Detroit is hard
The20YearIRCloud: especially since i hear they don't give water there anymore
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