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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7174 @ 0.00082847 = 5.9434 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: A savvy young hooker named Gail got busted and lodged in the jail. But the jailer got hot to be lodged in her twat, and so Gail made the bail with her tail.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 88 @ 0.00680035 = 0.5984 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00082721 = 7.5276 BTC [-]
TheNewDeal: that was a quality limerick
TheNewDeal: lots of name changing going on right meow
BingoBoingo: So much
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6046 @ 0.0008218 = 4.9686 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: !up so
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29732 @ 0.00082202 = 24.4403 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 400 @ 0.00399995 = 1.6 BTC [+] {3}
TheNewDeal: oooo so vexual
Vexual: huh?
TheNewDeal: metro vexual
Vexual: you know it baby
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12718 @ 0.00082294 = 10.4662 BTC [+]
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $450 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/1010/ Odds: 34(Y):66(N) by coin, 34(Y):66(N) by weight. Total bet: 3.04679693 BTC. Current weight: 96,071.
decimation: asciilifeform re: clocks << http://ok0epb.nagano.cz/index.php?page=Main+page << Czech guy built a Froment clock, put in vaccuum chamber, transmits time using Morse code on shortwave
assbot: Main page - OK0EPB - 7 039,4 kHz
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14650 @ 0.00082211 = 12.0439 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: !t m f.mpif
assbot: [MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00019 / 0.00020681 / 0.00021999 (91619 shares, 18.95 BTC), 30D: 0.00019 / 0.00020681 / 0.00021999 (91620 shares, 18.95 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 250 @ 0.0026944 = 0.6736 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 225 @ 0.00269084 = 0.6054 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: !mpif
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021715 B (Total: 474.87 B). Delta: -0.41 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021999 BTC [+]
assbot: Fapworthy
BingoBoingo: !up yamaka
BingoBoingo: !up Guest25029
BingoBoingo: !up so
BingoBoingo: !up DreadKnight
BingoBoingo: Hello everybody
jurov: ^ MPIF marketmaker incured not-quite-a-loss
jurov: hello
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17388 @ 0.0008211 = 14.2773 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: !up peeta
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal ikr
mircea_popescu: it's a tough racket, eh jurov ?
peeta: so are you getting a Trezor Mircea?
peeta: do you actively distrust it?
mircea_popescu: how do you actively distrust something ?
mircea_popescu: i've not put out a scam tag on it if that's what you';re asking.
peeta: ok, yeah, that's what I was asking.. "actively" being my clumsy way of asking if you had more than vague, general misgivings or just no reason to trust it
peeta: ok, changing topic... I recently learned about volatility drag for the first time... I'm assuming you're familiar with it?
fluffypony: I prefer my women to be women
fluffypony: never been a fan of drag
peeta: lol
peeta: so, I know you were supportive of Just-Dice at the beginning... I'm guessing you followed the nakowa saga?
peeta: what I was wondering is if nakowa's big win can be explained by volatility drag or not
mircea_popescu: events aren't really to be explained is the thing. what are you goint to explain ?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony do they even have drag in south africa ?
fluffypony: we have drag racers
mircea_popescu: just like canada down there huh.
mircea_popescu: !up peeta
mircea_popescu: who're you anyway ?
peeta: ok, so it all hinges on the max profit %... if it was anything above 2% a blowup was likely because the volatility drag would be over the expected earnings
peeta: soon after nakowa the max profit % went from 1% to 0.5%
peeta: who am I? honestly just someone wanting to learn... but I have no one to bounce ideas with
peeta: sorry if I'm just blurting this out without much preamble
peeta: I was a Just-Dice investor
peeta: btw, were you, a JD investor?
mircea_popescu: yes, i gave the site a start.
peeta: ok, thanks for hearing my ramblings... I'll go sleep and mull this over and hopefully come back with fresher thoughts... goodbye :)
mircea_popescu: anyway, for the record, "volatility drag" is an artefact of the poor public school system in the us. the only reason it exists is that people do arithmetic rather than geometric %s. in other words, they don't compound.
mircea_popescu: it's also mildly useful for crooked hedge fund mangers to explain to their half smart moneyed audience why exactly it is that i can make any % i want and they can only make a % that's two digits no matter what happens.
[]bot: Bet placed: 1.1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $450 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/1010/ Odds: 21(Y):79(N) by coin, 22(Y):78(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.84679693 BTC. Current weight: 95,793.
mircea_popescu: !up neuroBed
neuroBed: whoops
neuroBed: i forgot i was in this channel
neuroBed: haha
Vexual: i feel a limerick coming
Vexual: oh i got one
Vexual: *ew
fluffypony: there once was a neuro named Mode, who swallowed a rather large toad, with Myriads of coins, all girding his loins, he would ribbited, cackled, and crowed!
mircea_popescu: ahahaa not bad at all.]
mircea_popescu: " In June, U.S. Marshals auctioned off Bitcoins seized from Silk Road, the online market for illegal goods and services. Draper bought the lot for $20 million, beating out 44 other bidders."
Vexual: is that an approximation?
fluffypony: so he paid $666 each?
mircea_popescu: sounds just about right lol
Vexual: what was the number for the bet?
mircea_popescu: ~19 and change.
Vexual: no the price at whatever exchange at whatever time
Vexual: of course
cazalla: refund the SR bet now imo
Vexual: or i could tell you the asnnswer
cazalla: i didn't bet because i thought what happened might happened
cazalla: i think punkman mentioned that was his reasoning for not better either
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1962 @ 0.00268007 = 5.2583 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: it's 600 * 30 pretty much, like 18.
mircea_popescu: high price was like 600.86 iirc.
Vexual: 666 is prolly about right
BingoBoingo: Oh, USMS released FOIA or what?
Vexual: cost more than pay both
Vexual: the answer will come
Vexual: +up neuroCreep
Vexual: der+p
Vexual: !up neuroCreep
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021715 B (Total: 474.87 B). Delta: -0.41 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021999 BTC [+]
neuroCreep: fluffypony, you aren't allowed to limerick anymore
cazalla: mircea_popescu, which article is that from? i found it on google but the actually article has the quote regarding $20 million price removed
fluffypony: neuroCreep: not a fan of toads?
Vexual: mmm chart porn
Vexual: adnoidally challenged from harlem
Vexual: getting polwed much harder than farming
Vexual: the creams got so loud
Vexual: she woke the whole croud
Vexual: now grows pork and is everyones darlin
fluffypony: nice rhymes, Vexual
fluffypony: you should rap
Vexual: no. i shouldnt
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71126 @ 0.00081932 = 58.275 BTC [-] {6}
mircea_popescu: biznisweek.
assbot: Six Californias: A Tim Draper Idea Just as Madcap as the Others - Businessweek
cazalla: quote has been removed
mircea_popescu: lol i guess that's that then.
cazalla: it's still in google if you search the quote though
mircea_popescu: i guess either the guy accidentally let it slip and threatened them to sue, or else it was dumbass copy and the editor fixed it.
neuroCreep: There once was a pony named Fluff
neuroCreep: Who thought ring signatures werent enough.
neuroCreep: He hoofed code on his rear
neuroCreep: like a monkey scribing Shakespeare
neuroCreep: and developed anonymous cream puffs.
BingoBoingo: Thankfully the bet is closed so there isn't a bunch of late betting before the FOIA requests go through
neuroCreep: A fluffypony limerick
mircea_popescu: i twouldnt have weight anyway
fluffypony: hah hah
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The dickstabbers would bet and then wonder how they can lose money on the winning side.
neuroCreep: and developed an anonymous cream puff* would have been better
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 203 Ask: 248 Last Price: 205 24h-Vol: 20k High: 206 Low: 205 VWAP: 205
atcbot: 8k@260 17k@250 44k@248 | 23k@203 100k@202 45k@201
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 313458 | Current Difficulty: 1.8736441558310238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 314495 | Next Difficulty In: 1037 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 20 hours, 49 minutes, and 16 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 19740753578.5 | Estimated Percent Change: 5.36021
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00081712 = 13.7276 BTC [-]
BigBitz: That dude paid $666 each then for the SR bitcoins? :o
BingoBoingo: Seems likely
BigBitz: Interesting... wonder has this fuelled the uptrend that emerged from the $555 low yesterday.
BingoBoingo: Hard to say. I guess we'll find out the price paid for certain if the FOIA act requests go through.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2851001 = 0.5702 BTC [-]
BigBitz: well they can't refuse FOIA as it's .gov, right?
BingoBoingo: Well, FOIA has been refused before for other things, but...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28850 @ 0.00081712 = 23.5739 BTC [-]
punkman: "I would advise that you contact your bank to ensure your IBAN number is correct. Please mention that you are trying to add your bank account to your PayPal account. In some cases you might receive a slightly modified version of your IBAN from your bank."
punkman: yes my bank is gonna give me a different IBAN just for Paypal
punkman: because that makes sense
punkman: another day another reply, no actionable information whatsoever
punkman: at least they admit their shit is broken: "We are aware of a number of customers who are currently unable to add their bank accounts to PayPal."
BingoBoingo: !up mpoe
BingoBoingo: Hello mpoe
BigBitz: punkman you need money out of PayPal ?
punkman: not yet, but there's a small amount coming soon, and I don't like to leave a balance with them
BigBitz: Vultures.
punkman: also found 700eur in my bank account today, no idea who sent it. what is happening ?!
punkman: who's setting me up for money laundering?
BigBitz: punkman I think I sent it by accident, please send it to my Nigerian Uncle. He is a Prince. Totally legit.
BingoBoingo: !up DreadKnight
DreadKnight: Nigerian Uncle, lulz
punkman: ahaha just figured it out, it's from the government's "social solidarity fund", no idea why I qualify for that shit
DreadKnight: if no need for moneys, pass it on
BigBitz: plox 2 gief maniez.
BingoBoingo: !up PixelBacon
punkman: DreadKnight, BigBitz: no begging without titties
punkman: oh now it makes sense, accountant says he applied for the moneyz
punkman: that's more than I pay him, guess I should buy him a bottle of booze
BingoBoingo: !up karma
punkman: %diff
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 498109.31 in 478 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -27.51
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.02 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 2553.69 GH/s
punkman: wonder if we can make #50000 in the next 3 weeks
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24809 @ 0.00081712 = 20.2719 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: punkman: What do you mean by #50000?
punkman: block number
BigBitz: ;;blocks
gribble: 313471
BigBitz: ah ATC lol.
assbot: BitBet - ATC to reach block 50000 on time :: 2.5 B (26%) on Yes, 7.05 B (74%) on No | closed 5 days 10 hours ago
punkman: was a bit too expensive to rent a TH or two last I checked
punkman: these are not too expensive, maybe if I had cheaper power
punkman: 1100w
BingoBoingo: punkman: Well...
BingoBoingo: DOn't they have a S3 or ZE or something nao
xmj: anyone know about Miles&More and how they compute the number of status relevant flights?
punkman: s3 is 0.45 TH
punkman: and it's preorder
punkman: gov subsidized a bunch of PV installations around here and most of them remain unconnected and can't sell back to the grid
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 203 Ask: 248 Last Price: 203 24h-Vol: 23k High: 205 Low: 203 VWAP: 204
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1079 @ 0.0025921 = 2.7969 BTC [-] {25}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1171 @ 0.00252393 = 2.9555 BTC [-] {10}
BingoBoingo: !up ADutchGamer
BingoBoingo: !up pleego
BingoBoingo: !up Quanttek
BingoBoingo: !up AlexWkz
assbot: Ninki | Bitcoin PGP Wallet Network
punkman: another wallet inspector
BigBitz: punkman +++
punkman: "Your hot private key is encrypted by a password only you know using AES 256 encryption and stored in our database. "
punkman: your cold key is the real thing, and then there's their key
punkman: so I suppose it's 2 of 3 and they can take your moneyz
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 22 @ 0.27851406 = 6.1273 BTC [-] {13}
BigBitz: They only keep one key, punkman.
punkman: nope, they want your encrypted hot key in their database
punkman: "When I first heard of Ninkip2p, I was ecstatic. Finally, we have a PGP wallet we can use to keep our Bitcoin transactions even more secure? They also packaged it into a very clean and attractive interface"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.265 = 0.53 BTC [-]
BigBitz: ah just re-read it, sorry, punkman.
assbot: Solar storm: A massive 2012 CME just missed the Earth.
punkman: sun farts
punkman: scary stuff
BingoBoingo: punkman: Sun farts are indeed a contingency to plan for
punkman: BingoBoingo, problem is I can't fix those giant transformers that will blow out
punkman: and from what I've read they don't keep too many spares
BingoBoingo: punkman: Not for that, for Data backup and having computing machine that will work after such an event
danielpbarron: start learning how to sha256 by hand
punkman: laptop's gonna be fine
BingoBoingo: punkman: Depends on how big the event is where the laptop is, and whether it is plugged in.
BingoBoingo: Among other things.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 450 @ 0.00270003 = 1.215 BTC [-] {4}
chetty: <BingoBoingo> punkman: Not for that, for Data backup and having computing machine that will work after such an event/watch solar weather and have a nice big metal trash can to pop laptops and flash drives and stuff into
BingoBoingo: chetty: Make sure to ground the can.
punkman: unplugged flash memory in danger?
BingoBoingo: punkman: Maybe? Metal or plastic casing?
BingoBoingo: Even with plastic casing some supplementary protection may be called for
punkman: I thought unplugged laptop on shelf would be safe
BingoBoingo: punkman: It could be, but depends on the size of the event.
BingoBoingo: And the intensity
chetty: a little extra caution is usually a good thing
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00081681 = 3.2672 BTC [-]
punkman: BingoBoingo: gut says if laptop is damaged on shelf, I have much bigger problems
BingoBoingo: Maybe?
BingoBoingo: !up Shakespeare
BingoBoingo: !up diana_coman
BingoBoingo: !up belcher
BingoBoingo: !up ziggamon
diana_coman: thanks BingoBoingo, hello
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Hello to you too
diana_coman: now I'm curious whether it will voice me down in ~30 min or not, lol
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Well, there is only one way to find out
diana_coman: well,kind of 2, since whoever implemented it should know
diana_coman: but will wait, nothing wrong with that
BingoBoingo: Well I dunno that even kakobrekla can always anticipate assbot's actual workings
diana_coman: ahaha, is the code already that arcane then? I did not realise it had enough history for that really
BingoBoingo: If you wait long enough everything has hisotry
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00081821 = 5.3593 BTC [+] {2}
diana_coman: can't argue with that
assbot: UN Condemns Israel's Latest War Crime: Not Sharing Iron Dome with Hamas
thickasthieves: it's lame that if i auth as thickasthieves while using a diff nick, assbot won't let me !up, regardless of nick or being auth'd with gribble already
fluffypony: throw the assbot down the well!
thickasthieves: dont forget the baby!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2439 @ 0.00082072 = 2.0017 BTC [+] {2}
thickasthieves: "Upgrading encryption software might mask communications for al-Qaida temporarily, but probably not for long, Schneier said.
thickasthieves: "It is relatively easy to find vulnerabilities in software," he added. "This is why cyber criminals do so well stealing our credit cards. And it is also going to be why intelligence agencies are going to be able to break whatever software these al-Qaida operatives are using."
thickasthieves: The NSA, for its part, declined to comment."
assbot: Big Data Firm Says It Can Link Snowden Data To Changed Terrorist Behavior : The Two-Way : NPR
thickasthieves: Big Data Firm Says It Can Link Snowden Data to Improved Security Behavior Worldwide
chetty: <thickasthieves> Big Data Firm Says It Can Link Snowden Data to Improved Security Behavior Worldwide// you think?
thickasthieves: well i'm just contrasting, two ways to write a bullshit article
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00082224 = 12.3747 BTC [+]
chetty: article and BS seem to be evolving into synonyms
thickasthieves: pretty much
thickasthieves: every article i read first goes through a what-are-they-trying-to-make-me-feel/think filter
thickasthieves: cuz so many articles are just an agenda
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00082224 = 3.8234 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00082201 = 7.4803 BTC [-]
assbot: Why the head of Mt. Gox Bitcoin exchange should be in jail | Ars Technica
novusordo: just the head
assbot: Judgement Karpeles
BingoBoingo: novusordo: Well... "The 2010 decision shows that Karpeles lost by default, and he was found liable of “fraudulent access to an automated data processing system” and “fraudulent changes to data contained in an automated data processing system.” The document also states that Karpeles admitted to French authorities that he had “pirated” a server."
xmj: fluffypony: around?
fluffypony: xmj: in a meeting
novusordo: seems like a great fellow to hold the reins to a currency exchange
kakobrekla: <BingoBoingo> Well I dunno that even kakobrekla can always anticipate assbot's actual workings < - also the other way around.
assbot: Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3QYQSQG.txt )
xmj: fluffypony: ever heard of Kasoro (pty) Ltd. ?
fluffypony: xmj: not at all
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12028 @ 0.00082201 = 9.8871 BTC [-]
xmj: fluffypony: ok thanks
xmj: (you never know. this world is so damn small)
BingoBoingo: assbot and kakobrekla Confounding each other
BingoBoingo: !up fnyr
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00082453 = 17.48 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00082244 = 11.0207 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.29979109 = 1.7987 BTC [+] {3}
BigBitz: danielpbarron timtams from -otc runs LetsTalkBitcoin I think!
fluffypony: he runs something else
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.2998 = 1.499 BTC [+]
fluffypony: You, Me and BTC
fluffypony: that's what he runs
danielpbarron: ltb is Adam B. Levine @gamerandy i think
BingoBoingo: Who has time to listen to podcasts when reading is so much faster
BigBitz: ah yeah, nice fluffypony.
novusordo: BingoBoingo: while driving
novusordo: reading isn't faster while driving
BingoBoingo: novusordo: Driving is for listening to baseball games or hot stove
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.2999 = 1.4995 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Though with the non-waiver trade deadline having passed yesterday hot stove slows down for a bit
BingoBoingo: !up thickasthieves
BingoBoingo: !up ziggamon
novusordo: bought a mattress from overstock, paying with bitcoin literally helps me sleep better at night.
ziggamon: Hey guys! Here’s some thoughts I wrote down on why people sometimes sound religious around bitcoin http://ziggamon.tumblr.com/post/93502914957/why-bitcoin-is-religious
assbot: Sergej Kotliar — Why Bitcoin is "religious"
ziggamon: curious about your feedback, been lurking around here and your blogs
kakobrekla: even though we have Luke-Jr over here, imo fiat is more religious than btc.
BingoBoingo: ziggamon: Interesting stuff
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Don't forget danielpbarron
kakobrekla: i dont know about him
thickasthieves: he loves jesus too
thickasthieves: follow-up thought on "cats don't love". Do babies love?
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: danielpbarron is an honest holy man. spreads the words of God's hate
BingoBoingo: ziggamon: So BTC is religious in the Cantor's going mad contemplating infinities and set theory way?
ziggamon: BingoBoingo: perhaps something like that
thickasthieves: as a vessel for hope, I suppose it is religious
ziggamon: any religion starts with a cool magic trick. distributed consensus among among liars and thieves is a pretty neat trick
BingoBoingo: ziggamon: There's a long history of people surrounded by math feeling a touch of religion through the purity of the numbers
thickasthieves: see Anathem
BingoBoingo: Pythagoras and his cult are usually the first ones people remember
ziggamon: I mean religious in quotes. as in something that is within the realm of belief. you must trust the invisible hand that powers the consensus mechanism.
ben_vulpes: <BingoBoingo> http://fapworthy.org/ << lol faye raegan is a redheads?
assbot: Fapworthy
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Maybe?
BingoBoingo: ziggamon: Sure
BingoBoingo: ziggamon: Open source though means you can stare into the beast's heart
ziggamon: BingoBoingo: in a way. but also not, since the ecosystem is so much larger than the algorithm itself
BingoBoingo: ziggamon: Of course
ziggamon: it’s like the ouija board. you know what it looks like and you know that it’s your collective hands under the table moving it. but it appears unpredictable and magic
ziggamon: gotta run, thanks for reading
BingoBoingo: You're welcome
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.71440500 BTC to 12`775 shares, 13420 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 17.98581232 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1564 satoshi per share
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00082674 = 13.6412 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] [PAID] 4.03006220 BTC to 29`438 shares, 13690 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 227 @ 0.00265014 = 0.6016 BTC [+] {3}
ben_vulpes: !up bats_cd03
ben_vulpes: <thickasthieves> follow-up thought on "cats don't love". Do babies love? what is love?
ben_vulpes: baby don't hurt me
ben_vulpes: baby don't hurt me
ben_vulpes: no more
assbot: GoodFET -- Facedancer21
bats_cd03: hax the planet, etc.
ben_vulpes: ah that's p neat
ben_vulpes: are you familiar with the provenance of the face dancer name, bats_cd03 ?
bats_cd03: dune?
bats_cd03: dem niggas r crazy.
ben_vulpes: dat's right
bats_cd03: i even read some of the stuff in the universe written by the dude's son after he passed. wasn't good.
ben_vulpes: indeed.
bats_cd03: though supposedly he had daddy's notes. hum.
ben_vulpes: well notes are not authorial voice
assbot: Rizzle Kicks – “Tell Her” (Arkon Fly Remix) | Hillydilly
assbot: chikinpickle comments on What is life like for an unattractive man?
bats_cd03: 9 gold awards, wtf?
bats_cd03: asciilifeform: have any docs you think would be useful to someone doing firmware research on usb stack?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 575 @ 0.00270772 = 1.5569 BTC [+] {5}
ben_vulpes: bats_cd03: kinda why i don't give much truck to people complaining about how hard group "x" has it - there's always another group bitching about something.
bats_cd03: http://www.galactanet.com/oneoff/theegg_mod.html a good novella if you havent read it already
assbot: The Egg
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2431 @ 0.00272566 = 6.6261 BTC [+] {5}
bats_cd03: dudes need to get over it or kill themselves.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 444 @ 0.00274 = 1.2166 BTC [+]
bats_cd03: The Egg vaguely reminds me of God's Debris
bats_cd03: which is also worth a read if you haven't. its written by Scott Adams, creator of Dilbert.
assbot: 2CELLOS - Welcome To The Jungle [OFFICIAL VIDEO] - YouTube
assbot: Tom Walker from www.floridahoghunts.com American Hoggers kills huge boar with Wasp Injection Knife - YouTube
bats_cd03 adds killing a shark with a wasp knife to bucket list
ben_vulpes: oh hey look another lethal object to ban
assbot: First Person: Man Battles Tiger Shark - YouTube
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37000 @ 0.00082506 = 30.5272 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3250 @ 0.00252867 = 8.2182 BTC [-] {25}
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ben_vulpes: office assistant in this shop looks and smells so good
mircea_popescu: punkman: yes my bank is gonna give me a different IBAN just for Paypal << that's lulzy. srsly, tell the bank some script indian said iban is ambiguous. maybe you need a new ipban
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes does she want to earn btc ?
mircea_popescu: (implying a man may look good but could never smell good)
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mircea_popescu: punkman: ahaha just figured it out, it's from the government's "social solidarity fund", no idea why I qualify for that shit << because you're poor!
mircea_popescu: His Highness Shaikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum, Vice-President and Prime Minister of the UAE, in his capacity as the Ruler of Dubai, has issued Law No. 7 of 2012 regarding social benefits for UAE nationals in Dubai.
mircea_popescu: The law stipulates the establishment of a ‘Social Solidarity Fund’ as part of the organisational structure of the Community Development Authority (CDA) with aims to enhance cooperation among society members and provide social welfare for eligible Emirati families.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: what do you have in mind? i don't know her well enough to pimp her tits out (yet).
mircea_popescu: ah then ok :p
ben_vulpes: plus i don't know if it's that good of an idea to start diddling the help
mircea_popescu: well if the help smells good it's asking for it!!1
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: punkman: Depends on how big the event is where the laptop is, and whether it is plugged in. << not really. plug your laptop into 110kv, the transformer wil blow, maybe the power entry will blow, the hdd won't blow.
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ben_vulpes: might just be that time of the month who knows
ben_vulpes: also i'm starting to suspect that hormonal birth control makes teh wimminz ultrasad due to not knowing that they're going through the usual hormonal flux. just 'cause there's no bleeding doesn't mean that there are no hormones flopping around.
chetty: screwin with de hormones causes all sorts of problems ...like higher chance of breast cancer ..
mircea_popescu: bc pills are well documented to cause depression.
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mircea_popescu: but hey, it's the way nature usually hits one over the head. they want to live in a world where men don't kill their kids, no matter what. turns out that can be built, but the cost is they can also never be happy.
mircea_popescu: a fair cop.
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ben_vulpes: pardon my ignorance, but what does bc have to do with infanticide?
mircea_popescu: ah, now that's a long trip. lets go.
assbot: Johnny Cash "Don't Take Your Guns to Town" - YouTube
mircea_popescu: A dusty cowpoke at his side began to laugh him down [...] But the stranger drew his gun and fired before he even saw.
mircea_popescu: so now here we go : they had no bc there, and as an indirect but quite certain consequence, that cowpoke'd have given any woman as many kids as she could carry.
mircea_popescu: but the woman in question wasn't happy with the idiocy control. so as a result... the guy wouldn't impregnate her anymore. and here we are.
mircea_popescu: technical solutions for problems that should never be solved.
mircea_popescu: let her cry her heart out and make a better one next time, i say.
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chetty: only someone that didnt spend nine months waddling would see it that way
mircea_popescu: obviously.
assbot: Every Sperm is Sacred - Monty Python's The Meaning of Life - YouTube
mircea_popescu: im not saying the female pov is illegitimate, merely unfortunate.
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chetty: hey mircea_popescu for once we agree
mircea_popescu: now someone wanted to see what white meant, days ago. well this is it. the ideology of early feudal lords.
ben_vulpes: on an entirely different topic, does anyone have a good hack for measuring the OD of a tube?
ben_vulpes: w/out calipers
mircea_popescu: get lined paper, set it down, draw a circle.
ben_vulpes: myeah
ben_vulpes: damned thing has a wide ring around its bottom though
mircea_popescu: cut strip of lined paper, put it around tube, divide by pee.
ben_vulpes: ooooooh
mircea_popescu: the word you're looking for is doooh.
assbot: The Many D'ohs of Homer Simpson! - YouTube
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ben_vulpes: i've always been the kind of learner who did best by wandering around the junkyard asking "what is this" of someone who knows than the kind of guy who comes up with the universal joint from first principles
ben_vulpes: (don't actually need the other human these days, but it's still a fun thing to do)
mircea_popescu: well this'd explain why you're getting laid.
mircea_popescu: the other type doesn't.
mircea_popescu: the thing with getting laid is you gotta ask.
ben_vulpes: now i have to find a ruler somewhere in this shitshow
ben_vulpes: other people's shops...
mircea_popescu: ok, no cali is one thing. no ruler ?! what do you mean by "shop" ?
ben_vulpes: place where things are made.
mircea_popescu: even nurseries have measuring tape.
ben_vulpes: atoms agglomerated together
ben_vulpes: "find"
ben_vulpes: nominally 1.233 OD
ben_vulpes: dast i get a 1.25 ID pipe and trust it to fit?
ben_vulpes: (no.)
ben_vulpes: 1 3/8.
mircea_popescu: the 1 3/8 is id.
ben_vulpes: yeah.
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ben_vulpes has fit many a pipe inside other pipes
ben_vulpes: WHY AM I BACK TO BANGING ON ATOMS
kuzetsa: 1.233 OD will fit in 1/38 ID
kuzetsa: 1 3/8 even
kuzetsa: 1.233 < 1.375
kuzetsa: but why are you nesting pipes inside each other?
kuzetsa: making a heat exchanger or something?
assbot: Why the head of Mt. Gox Bitcoin exchange should be in jail | Ars Technica
assbot: Instagram
mircea_popescu: fluffypony "because trilema said so a year ago" ?
fluffypony: beacuse the world just woke up
thickasthieves: chetty, must be love!
assbot: I won't back down - Johnny Cash (lyrics) - YouTube
The20YearIRCloud: RentalStarter conference call is going to be starting in a little over an hour
thickasthieves: Most impressively, the NASA team specifically built two Cannae Drives, including one that was designed to fail, and instead it worked. As the scientists write in their paper abstract: "thrust was observed on both test articles, even though one of the test articles was designed with the expectation that it would not produce thrust." That suggests the drive is "producing a force that is
thickasthieves: not attributable to any classical electromagnetic phenomenon," the scientists write.
thickasthieves: magical microwaves
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The20YearIRCloud: Which either disproves the test or disproves newton's law of motion
mircea_popescu: magnetism is by far the least understood macrophenomenon.
mircea_popescu: if magnetism was a chick, the only thing we'd know about her would be that it interacts with the cock (ie, electric field)
The20YearIRCloud: I hope that this test proves conservation of motion in space wrong and they can produce drives with the thrust possibilities as they believe are possible
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thickasthieves: "My Journal is the PERFECT example of what EMOTION will do to you in this game. I just updated it. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AieQiVL6xc-1dHE5anhTSGotYUVIMmR5cERIYU5BOVE&output=html"
assbot: Fehler in Google Drive
thickasthieves: the guy is still going
thickasthieves: 7/26 MARGIN CALL -7000
mircea_popescu: what's this about ?
thickasthieves: remember that googlde doc i shared a few weeks ago
thickasthieves: emotional traders logs
thickasthieves: well i said, the guy's problem is he's too emotional
thickasthieves: now he says so too
thickasthieves: he has all these quotes and observations
mircea_popescu: no "as tat said" included huh ?
thickasthieves: for inspiraton
thickasthieves: well i didnt say it to him
thickasthieves: just you gais
ben_vulpes: <kuzetsa> but why are you nesting pipes inside each other? << standing desk on the cheap
ben_vulpes: <The20YearIRCloud> I hope that this test proves conservation of motion in space wrong << i think you mean conservation of momentum
mircea_popescu: o wow all teh extra skin
The20YearIRCloud: ben_vulpes: that's what i meant, yes
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mircea_popescu: fluffypony lol not bad
assbot: Police: Do not call us if Facebook is down - WFSB 3 Connecticut
thickasthieves: i wonder if they called their politician too
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FabianB: $traded
empyex: FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE
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chetty: An English blogger writing for the Nomen Global Language Center in Utah was fired for posting about “homophones” last week after his employer said the word was too close to “homosexual” and “homophobe.”
thickasthieves: dangerous words
chetty: we are already living idiocracy
The20YearIRCloud: The RentalStarter conference call is live in 15m at : https://plus.google.com/events/ck5l6dn5dhp2nvujfcrc64e66n0
mircea_popescu: punkman: I thought unplugged laptop on shelf would be safe < you know you can actually calculate the induced current as a function of speed, field and the conductors in question.
ben_vulpes: mafs iz harrrrrd
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves: "Upgrading encryption software might mask communications for al-Qaida temporarily, but probably not for long, Schneier said. << schneier is such an unmitigated twerp.
mircea_popescu: no, they're not "our" credit cards they're stealing, they're ~the bank's~. and no, it's not because "vulnerabilities in software". it's because instead of waiting on every word here, the banks in question pay off twerps to pretend.
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves: well i'm just contrasting, two ways to write a bullshit article << word.
mircea_popescu: ziggamon: curious about your feedback, been lurking around here and your blogs << i had nfi one could write on tumblr.
thickasthieves: !up bgupta
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mircea_popescu: anyway, it's a scratch on the surface, the intuitions i suspect largely correct, but one could really go into a lot more detailed analysis on the topic. probably with the tools of the psychiatrist or antropologist.
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves: follow-up thought on "cats don't love". Do babies love? << no. this is well studied, first they consume, then they deject, then they love.
thickasthieves: you mean love comes with puberty or?
mircea_popescu: a no, muy earlier
mircea_popescu: 3, 5, something.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: schneier's a winblowz user. assumes pwnage.
ben_vulpes: which isn't really that bad an opsec notion.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the ethical expectation of mastery is that it may never say fundamentally wrong things. it may adapt fundamentally correct things to any audience, but it never say teh booboo.
mircea_popescu: schneier regularly says the booboo, which is what makes him such a fucking shitface.
assbot: Oleg (oleg_dbooks) auf Twitter
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes wut is that ?1
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mircea_popescu: ziggamon: I mean religious in quotes. as in something that is within the realm of belief. you must trust the invisible hand that powers the consensus mechanism. << never trust a "mechanism". if you have to trust, pick someone to trust and trust them.
Namworld: What... Japanese trustee for MtGox's bankruptcy will look into if it is possible to do distribution in bitcoins?
Namworld: I'm surprised they'd make they effort to attempt it, would have imagined a straight liquidation of assets for distribution in fiat.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: a few friends of mine hack on a software-as-performance-art piece called OlegDB
ben_vulpes: that markov chain is a reference to "horse ebooks", and is either a markov chain or one of the hackers in question
assbot: OlegDB - Project Home
ben_vulpes: OlegDB is a database that meets the bottom line head-on. It operates under a startling new enterprise-ready paradigm which we call MAYO: Marginally available Yolk and Oil database.
ben_vulpes: it's just so damn good
assbot: chikinpickle comments on What is life like for an unattractive man?
mircea_popescu: fucking whiners. what happened to being thankful for the scrap he got!
mircea_popescu: everyone figures himself the fucking president or something now.
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mircea_popescu: first, you allow all the failures in the pool. then, they figure they should count for something, they're there after all, no ? and next, since being a failure is easier, how about make it mandatory! and then have a vote about how things should be, with a million fucking failures everywhere.
mircea_popescu: this is flesh inflation.
ben_vulpes: this is life under the monogamous regime. one for one and all shall have one
mircea_popescu: i guess that may be, the brits ended up with a shitton of spinsters once they tried to be both sane and puritanically monogamous.
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mircea_popescu: http://www.reddit.com/r/SRSsucks/ << lol check it out. reddit has discovered people mostly use them for lolz and DONT LIKE IT!
assbot: SRSSucks - where we mock the actual ridiculous shit reddit says
Namworld: I remember high-school too. I remember also how people I never saw recognized me.
mircea_popescu: i remember running into teachers in town and them going "you know i've not seen you this year"
Namworld: Classes too slow for you, eh?
mircea_popescu: kinda, yeah.
mircea_popescu: well this was like.. geography. who the fuck cares, buy a reference book.
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ben_vulpes: ;;ticker --currency eur
gribble: Bitstamp BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 444.28802, Best ask: 446.693401, Bid-ask spread: 2.40538, Last trade: 444.28802, 24 hour volume: 11806.57812788, 24 hour low: 433.244119, 24 hour high: 452.18184, 24 hour vwap: 443.013328989
ben_vulpes: ;;calc 49 / [ticker --currency eur]
gribble: Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
ben_vulpes: mike_c where are youuuuu
Namworld: Haha, filling of claims moved from novmeber 2014 to may 2015, and investigation of claims moved from February to September 2015.
Namworld: Well it's nice to see court proceedings. It sure ain't a fast process tho.
The20YearIRCloud: what proceedings?
Namworld: From slightly earlier lines
Namworld: [16:21] <+Namworld> What... Japanese trustee for MtGox's bankruptcy will look into if it is possible to do distribution in bitcoins?
Namworld: [16:22] <+Namworld> I'm surprised they'd make they effort to attempt it, would have imagined a straight liquidation of assets for distribution in fiat.
Namworld: I check it out every month or two, what's happening there.
mircea_popescu: by the time they finally get paid teh btc will be 1mn
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Namworld: Then MtGox's failure, even if they lose 90% of their BTC, will be a blessing because of the 10% they will not have been able to sell?
Namworld: That would be really funny.
Namworld: Not so for those who had large amounts and expected to keep them that long, but eh
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski that ycombinator dude is beyond fucking stupid.
mircea_popescu: how did he got off the set of "dude, where's my car" anyway ?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: lol i wish i knew
pete_dushenski: every second word out of his mouth was "like"
pete_dushenski: y'know like totally like this idea like fuck my ass
mircea_popescu: on one hand, you have the fed fuckwits pumping money so as to protect "the economy". at the other end, the economy is this fuckwit. meanwhile argentina has to beat them over the head with a club,
mircea_popescu: because they're too busy going lalalala to get it.
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pete_dushenski: how altman found himself as president of anything more than the local car wash is a fucking mystery
pete_dushenski: he groks less than paula abdul
pete_dushenski: i think i complimented him too much in drawing the comparison between the two
pete_dushenski: there's nothing unique about anything yc touches
pete_dushenski: that whole rebranding of airbnb was a travesty
pete_dushenski: and a lesson in irrelevance
pete_dushenski: "please to update app for new logo"
pete_dushenski: literally
ben_vulpes: man you want to hear about branding gone wrong?
pete_dushenski: Airbnb iOS version 4.0.0: The Airbnb you know and love has a brand new look. Install the update and check it out! Featuring: 1) A new symbol designed to capture the spirit of our community and express what it means to belong anywhere. 2) Richer colours and more vibrant photography. 3) Booking trips, managing your listings, and other features continue to work the same way as before
pete_dushenski: verfuckingbatim
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: sure
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assbot: Confessions of a Reformed InCel | M3
mircea_popescu: this guy is so excited some article got 10k views.. wtf ?!
pete_dushenski: he seems to drive, or wish to drive, a bmw m3
pete_dushenski: sorta says : i wish to feel young, swaggery, and european
pete_dushenski: "I as a man, biologically driven365 days a year to ejaculate and produce sperm as often as possible, and having the drive and desire to want it every waning moment, who is villified for this natural urge and made to feel ashamed of my sexuality, control it and subdue it to conform to the feminine imperative…"
pete_dushenski: yup, sounds like an m3 driver
mircea_popescu: sounds like someone who doesn't get laid.
pete_dushenski: precisement
mircea_popescu: it SEEMS like you'd do it 365 days a year, every waking moment, after a month in the can.
mircea_popescu: but after a month in the harem, it's like... mmm... wanna lick my asshole bebbeh ?
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pete_dushenski: m3 drivers do not under any circumstances take the girl home
mircea_popescu: what if a girl drives it ?
pete_dushenski: they have a high maintenance gf to go with the high maintenance car
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: good question
pete_dushenski: probably also means she's high maintenance
pete_dushenski: sorta no way outta that one
mircea_popescu: my...sister...drives a bmw.
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pete_dushenski: and i'd somehow imagined that mircea_popescu was an only child...
mircea_popescu: a series 5 something or the other
mircea_popescu: it's not an expensive car by any means (in europe)
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The20YearIRCloud: The M3 is the better version, right?
The20YearIRCloud: More pricey at least
mircea_popescu: prolly newer.
pete_dushenski: m3 is the sportiest 3-series
pete_dushenski: 3-series is the compact sedan
pete_dushenski: 5-series is midsize, 7-series is luxobarge
Namworld: My steam account has 3393.73 USD in games in it. Definitly didn't spend that much on them tho. Thanks Humble Bundles.
pete_dushenski: the M division drops in bigger engines, turbocharged these days, into the regular cars, adds larger brakes, etc
Namworld: I'm starting to have too many games.
ben_vulpes: luxobarge lol
mircea_popescu: [actually no.. i've crossed 50k.] this dude... http://trilema.com/2013/mpoe-pr-almost-two-years-in-the-swamp-an-anthology/ is at 61,193. FOR JULY.
assbot: MPOE-PR, almost two years in the swamp. An anthology. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck is with these social media people, srsly. they'll take the faintest hint of nothing as clear proof of their importance.
mircea_popescu: so eager to do it, too.
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pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: humans find patterns in the most benign shit. see chemtrails
mircea_popescu: yes but for most nuts those patterns aren't talking directly to them saying "omfg you're so important and we're paying attention to you!11"
pete_dushenski: and the m3 blogger looks to have toronto's skyline for a background
pete_dushenski: which also makes some sense
pete_dushenski: people there are badly confused
pete_dushenski: see construction bubble, mayor tom ford, ethereum fucktards, hipster deluge, etc
mircea_popescu: i have little idea about canada
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pete_dushenski: suffice to say that nubbins` and i are 6,000km away from each other, and could be 7-8000 apart and still considered "in the same country"
thickasthieves: <+mircea_popescu> what the fuck is with these social media people, srsly. they'll take the faintest hint of nothing as clear proof of their importance. //// If it's measurable, it has value!
mircea_popescu: well canada's only one country on the grounds of there not being enough people in it to pay for two parliaments, amirite ?
pete_dushenski: brings to mind douglas adams' : "Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves you may be on to something thar.
mircea_popescu: "I let myself get LJBF'ed"
mircea_popescu: fucking social media english, it's practically chinese by now.
mircea_popescu: everyone got his own little ideographics and i need a dictionary to wade through the sad produce of idiots who can't be bothered to learn a language well.
mircea_popescu: ;;ud ljbf
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=LJBF | LJBF. Abbreviation for "Lets Just Be Friends". Used mostly by women to indicate that they don't want a romantic relationship, but don't mind receiving attention ...
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: there are less populous countries than canada, but none on anywhere near this much land
mircea_popescu: http://bible-truths.com/23-min3.jpg << that's pretty great. why does it look like diablo ?!
pete_dushenski: there's plenty of lebensraum to go around
mircea_popescu: i don't recall that cutscene in diablo.
justusranvier: So that tweet yesterday was apparently a bad idea. It just encourages them: http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2014/08/01/homeopaths-and-ebola-virus-hemorrhagic-fever/
assbot: Homeopaths vs. Ebola virus hemorrhagic fever – Respectful Insolence
mircea_popescu: "I can only imagine what a productive member of civilization i would be IF i was brought up with masculine values and was sexually sated. Instead i spent my life living out the following tale trying to figure out what my problem was and living as a manic bipolar depressive. Instead here i sit, a MGTOW, never finding enough reason or desire to become productive beyond my own means."
mircea_popescu: jesus this is like... the perfect excuse, isn't it ? "i can only imagine how productive i'd be if". har har.
pete_dushenski: … if i wasn't addicted to ice cream and ate a tub every single night
pete_dushenski: this kinda shit is pervasive
pete_dushenski: helps with the sleeps
mircea_popescu: justusranvier what, they're going to africa to treat ebola through hidration ?
mircea_popescu: not a bad idea, supportive care helps some.
justusranvier: No, they inventing fake remedies from massively dilluted rattlesnake venom and selling them.
justusranvier: "If you're bleeding through your nose, use a 30 C dillution, if it gets worse and you start bleeding from your eyeballs, then increase the dilution to 50C!"
mircea_popescu: how's one to drink stuff at 50 degrees ?
mircea_popescu: or is it for rubbing or something
mircea_popescu: ello xanthyos
justusranvier: In homoeopathy, C is a measure of dilution
justusranvier: a 30C solution is duluted to 1x10^-300 of its original value
justusranvier: mean 10^60
mircea_popescu: there's not an infinity of molecules in that solution
justusranvier: Damn ii. 1x10^-60
mircea_popescu: you can't really dilute anything past 10^-20ish or so.
mircea_popescu: even that's iffy.
justusranvier: Exactly. That's why homeopathy is a scam
justusranvier: It's just distilled placebo water
mircea_popescu: no lol. it doesn't work at less dillution either :)
justusranvier: There are many reasons why homeopathy is a scam
mircea_popescu: but yeah, i suppose it's a good proof they don't grok objective reality.
xanthyos: homeopathy doesn't require any molecules of the original solution to remain. the theory is that it changes the resonance of surrounding water molecules in the same way that ice-nine worked in kurt vonnegut's "cat's cradle"
xanthyos: 6.02 X 10^23 hydrogens weighs 1 gram
xanthyos: so 10^60 is 37 orders of magnitude less concentrated than that
justusranvier: There are people who sell higher than 30C dilutions
The20YearIRCloud: i have a theory that everyone on the internet is a computer designed to interact with me. The reality is there was a global war 40 years ago that went nuclear, all countries do not exist, the US is the only one left
xanthyos: i tried to make homeopathic OJ by diluting it. it's just too sweet
xanthyos: then i got scurvy
The20YearIRCloud: I have never been outside of the United States, therefore it can't be prove that other countries do exist.
xanthyos: google earth is the proof
The20YearIRCloud: The sentient computer systems set up to emulate foreigner behavior makes said maps
xanthyos: why would a computer run that emulation when it seems so inefficient
assbot: Traditional Masculinity and Sexual Preferences
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00082824 = 6.5017 BTC [+] {2}
pete_dushenski: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 313552 | Current Difficulty: 1.8736441558310238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 314495 | Next Difficulty In: 943 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 18 hours, 50 minutes, and 47 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 19905350928.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 6.23869
pete_dushenski: ;;nethash
gribble: 148350542.708
pete_dushenski: heya ColinT
pete_dushenski: !up ColinT
ColinT: THanks bro!
ColinT: You a regular in here? :D
pete_dushenski: that i am
pete_dushenski: your first time?
ColinT: Kewlies
ColinT: I set it to join at some point - never really chatted in here though
pete_dushenski: cool. what brings you by today?
ColinT: Nothing, client just automatically joins it
pete_dushenski: ColinT: that works :)
pete_dushenski: what are you working on these days?
assbot: boy on a bike - YouTube
ColinT: Last couple months been going hard on a social location app for a client
ColinT: Not Bitcoin unfortunately, but not terrible!
pete_dushenski: not at all
mod6: %t
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 204 Ask: 248 Last Price: 203 24h-Vol: 25k High: 205 Low: 203 VWAP: 204
ColinT: What's new with you, holding luncheons, putting up posters? :D Hustle?
pete_dushenski: ColinT we have a few other app developers in here, such as ben_vulpes
ColinT: Oh cool, greetings ben_vulpes!
pete_dushenski: i'm working on a few projects
pete_dushenski: bitcoin-related stuff is blogging, hanging out here, and meet-ups
pete_dushenski: bit of brokering
pete_dushenski: non-bitcoin stuff is family biz
ColinT: Oh okay, yeah I didn't know if you were BTC full-time or not
pete_dushenski: need more skillz and knowledge for that. so here i am, sponging it up
ColinT: I can't imagine a better plan!
pete_dushenski: yup, it's pretty much been 6 months since i dropped down here, so right on track as per http://contravex.com/2014/03/17/irc-yeshiva/
assbot: IRC Yeshiva | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
pete_dushenski: i started reading the logs daily in december 2013
ColinT: IRC Yeshiva eh heh?
pete_dushenski: ;;ud yeshiva
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Yeshiva | pl. Yeshivot 1. A Rabbinical Seminary in which young men studied Talmud under the guidance of learned Rabbis. The Yeshiva was a prominent part of E...
ColinT: I'm not Jewish ;D
ColinT: I just call it research I guess heh
pete_dushenski: chetty: An English blogger writing for the Nomen Global Language Center in Utah was fired for posting about ?homophones? last week after his employer said the word was too close to ?homosexual? and ?homophobe.? << holy sweet mother of retardistan
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00083014 = 8.0524 BTC [+]
pete_dushenski: ColinT: research sounds too solitary
chetty: sadly this sort of outrage is showing up daily
ColinT: Gosh, all my research seems social ;D
pete_dushenski: it's more like camp for smart kids
pete_dushenski: chetty: sorta how it ends
ColinT: I'm not sure humans are the greatest at coming to intelligent conclusions in groups
ColinT: Too much subconscious "monkey psychology"
ColinT: I would so most of my research is solitary, not social
ColinT: say*
chetty: ColinT, this group, if you can call it that never seems to reach conclusions, just send all away with more homework
ColinT: I'm not someone who thinks rationally in groups - because groups of people don't think rationally
ColinT: Haha
pete_dushenski: well, the people here aren't just "humans," we're full fledged people
ColinT: What is this some kind of cult?
pete_dushenski: so we do come to some pretty intelligent conclusions
chetty: nah, cults have leaders and ideas, a real lack of both around here
pete_dushenski: rationalism is overrated anyways
pete_dushenski: chetty: lol
ColinT: Logical thinking is over-rated? ;D
ColinT: Nothing works without logic... Not even people
ColinT: Not even irrational people
pete_dushenski: logical =/= rational
ColinT: Emotion is still a type of logic
chetty: well the odd thought flow here tends to but unusal ideas next to each opther, produces some very interesting results
mircea_popescu: <ColinT> I'm not someone who thinks rationally in groups - because groups of people don't think rationally << depends on the group.
mircea_popescu: but no, emotion ain't no type o' logic i ever heard of.
mircea_popescu: they speak english in emotion ?
ColinT: Human emotions are neural network based..
ColinT: So they are computed yes
chetty: I think there are some hormones in taht mix ..
ColinT: If we didn't feel pain when we put our hands on a hot stove - that would be a problem
ColinT: It's a type of reasoning that we do subconsciously in order to guide our actions in the world - it's implications go beyond hot stoves though
mircea_popescu: computed != logic.
mircea_popescu: everything's "computed", water in a glass included.
ColinT: Not sure I follow
mircea_popescu: logic is a very narrowly, absolutely defined subclass of "computed"
mircea_popescu: ColinT a glass full of water is a glass-sized computator for water molecule position within a glass inside a gravitational field.
mircea_popescu: this does not make it logic.
mircea_popescu: the major point of difference being that out of the glass, of water or of emotion, one can extract usable entropy. not so from logic, at all.
ColinT: But using it as a "computator", or its use as a "computator" has it following logical rules...
ColinT: As long as you don't change the shape of the glass, the gravitational field, etc
ColinT: I don't know what that means
ColinT: "Useable entropy"?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11597 @ 0.00083126 = 9.6401 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: myeah. okay.
pete_dushenski: !up ColinT
ColinT: Like I said, groups of people, monkeys ;D
ben_vulpes: such nip
ColinT: No exception here ;D
pete_dushenski: i'm out. beer time!
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski buttventures!
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: that ain't maslow's pyramid for crying out loud. this is like the #1 libertard falsification topic or what ?!
ben_vulpes: hey what's the story with the GPG-login video?
ben_vulpes: jurov: ping gpg login video?
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell moiety gpg login video?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18301 @ 0.00082768 = 15.1474 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: hey linux users: how do you typically pipe stuff into your clipboard?
ben_vulpes: xclip?
ben_vulpes: better question: what are the major CLI clipboard interfaces on linux? xclip...
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: what's a cli clipboard ?
ben_vulpes: command-line interface to a clipboard
mthreat: like pbcopy for mac
ben_vulpes: precisely.
asciilifeform: that'd be... xclip
assbot: What's like OSX's pbcopy for Linux - Super User
mthreat: I googled "pbcopy for linux"
ben_vulpes: yeah, found that one.
mircea_popescu: real men use ctrl-c
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00082199 = 16.933 BTC [-] {2}
kakobrekla: F.MPIF: Panacea: 2014.07; http://dpaste.com/1NT4MM0.txt
kakobrekla: not a great month, suffering lack of volatility since december, this is being addressed.
mircea_popescu: better than last one.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4156 @ 0.00082402 = 3.4246 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: mthreat: mircea_popescu: has ars customs completely cut amazon off from delivering?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11187 @ 0.00082092 = 9.1836 BTC [-]
mthreat: ben_vulpes: apparently it is very hard to receive stuff. I haven't even tried to order anything.
ben_vulpes: mthreat: what's the in-country equivalent?
mthreat: ben_vulpes: MercadoLibre.com.ar is probably the closest thing
mthreat: simialr to ebay
ben_vulpes: jesus fuck chrome keeps retranslating the site every time the js does something
ben_vulpes: FUCK OFF
ben_vulpes: RAHGHGA
ben_vulpes: ahahahahahahahahaha
assbot: linux - Encrypt tar file asymmetrically - Super User
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12608 @ 0.00082402 = 10.3892 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: '...Plaintiffs Proposed Complaint includes a letter directed to Edward Snowden, in which Plaintiff seeks damages for any and all actions that
asciilifeform: Mr. Snowden is alleged to have taken against the United States and challenges Mr. Snowden to a
asciilifeform: game of poker at a casino of Mr. Snowden's choosing. (Id. at 21-30.) Finally, Plaintiff seeks to
asciilifeform: recover ten duodecillion dollars in damages (llL. at 56), which is a one followed by thirty-seven
asciilifeform: zeroes and equates to roughly 5.8 x 1023 times the gross domestic product of the United States.'
decimation: lol it's so crazy and yet it's written in legalese
decimation: 9. The only feasible option for your own Benefit (is "come back" and surrender Here in the U.S.A. AS WELL AS "FACE THE MUSIC," as alleged by the Interviews to you on television on or about May 2014 (TO FACE THE CRIMINAL CHARGES AGAINST YOU). Then, I will try to TONE THE MUSIC DOWN FOR YOU SO THAT YOU CAN DANCE EASILY WITH YOUR FAVORITE MUSIC AS WELL AS DANCE WITH (YOUR "PARTNERS") HEREIN.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, http://bible-truths.com/23-min3.jpg << that's pretty great. why does it look like diablo ?! <<< diablo has not looked like that for some time, she got a make over in diablo 3
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: measuring the OD of a tube << try archimedes. drown the tube, find displacement. then seal tube at one end, fill with water, find inner volume. what next - exercise for alert reader.
ben_vulpes: u funny asciilifeform
asciilifeform: see also the tired old childrens' puzzle with barometer.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: borrow a 'Pnohe' with camera. photograph end of tube with object of known size laid across diameter. count pixels...
asciilifeform: (a coin, in most countries, is good to < 1%)
asciilifeform: alternatively, find... a bullet. typical tolerance of caliber is near 0.001 mm
asciilifeform: if easier to find bullet than coin, re-examine engineering priorities in project.
asciilifeform: one more method. find and disassemble a computer. inside, search for an ic with quad flatpack (e.g. TQFP-44) package. lay tube sideways across (unpowered) pins, count pins. look up their pitch (typically 0.5mm).
decimation: asciilifeform: FYI you can listen to that Morse code vaccuum pendulum clock on the remote shortwave receiver I linked a few days ago.
ben_vulpes: okay okay i'm a retard i get it
decimation: I imagine the design tolerance of an SMT part is quite tight
decimation: If USG doesn't consider failure to pay federal taxes a basis to deny a security clearance, one wonders upon what basis the clearance is granted?
ben_vulpes: gpg --encrypt -r "$recip_1" -r "$recip_2" ... - how intersperse "-r" with the elements of $KEYS_OF_INTEREST
ben_vulpes: wrong chan, but if anyone's of the sentiment...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.295 = 1.475 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: !up DreadKnight
BingoBoingo: justusranvier: There are many reasons why homeopathy is a scam, mircea_popescu: but yeah, i suppose it's a good proof they don't grok objective reality. << Homeopaths make their cheddar on conditions that test well against placebo
Duffer1: lmao
Duffer1: way to aim low
justusranvier: I just wish they'd be honest. Placebos can do some good by lowering stress, which lowers cortosol, which would otherwise get in the way of natural healing processes.
justusranvier: So homeopathy is just another way of saying "sometimes if you make people feel better they heal faster"
justusranvier: It's a minor, but non-zero, effect.
justusranvier: But they can't just leave it at that. They've got to cloak it in a bunch of pseudoscience bullshit
RebeccaBitcoin: Good Evening!
assbot: That Mitchell and Webb Look: Homeopathic A&E - YouTube
BingoBoingo: justusranvier: From an article you linked >> "What they don’t understand is that Ebola is unlikely to spread very far because it is so fatal." << What makes this new strain particularly dangerous is it is only killing ~60% of patients
BingoBoingo: Evening RebeccaBitcoin
RebeccaBitcoin: oo are we discussing conspiracy theories?
RebeccaBitcoin: how the US infected people with ebola
RebeccaBitcoin: and shot down the plane
BingoBoingo: RebeccaBitcoin: Aren't we always?
RebeccaBitcoin: false flag operation
BingoBoingo: RebeccaBitcoin: Nah this is the one where seekrit Ebola cure gets snuck into worthless homeopathic remedies to save Obama care dollars.
justusranvier: Evolution in action. The least-successful viruses kill their hosts quickly. The better ones kill their host more slowly so they can infect more people. THe most successful ones don't make the host sick at all, and instead infect the germ line and become immortal.
RebeccaBitcoin: I've always wanted to orchestrate a false flag operation.
BingoBoingo: justusranvier: Exactly that
assbot: Mammals Made By Viruses : The Loom
BingoBoingo: A decent percent of the human genome share dna with various traditional STD causing pathogens.
justusranvier: The viruses that make us sick are the failures of the virus world. The virus winners are the ones that create entirely new species.
RebeccaBitcoin: you say it as if viruses can think
justusranvier: You don't need to be able to think in order to fail
BingoBoingo: Well, technically they are roughly as living as fire
BingoBoingo: Or more virus's have all of the instructions to live, but none of the aparratus to live on their own
justusranvier: As yet, there is no proper definition of life.
justusranvier: We consider cells to be alive. We consider multicellular organisims to be alive. They aren't quite alive in the same way that so far eludes a precise definition.
BingoBoingo: Which is why insist fire lives, in a minimalist sense
justusranvier: There was some physicist working on a thermodynamic definition of life.
justusranvier: Fire probably qualifies, even clouds maybe
BingoBoingo: On the other hand... Sometimes I want to restrict my definition of living to things I could, at least in theory, eat.
RebeccaBitcoin: So humans = yes
RebeccaBitcoin: dogs = yes
justusranvier: Rather anthromorphic of you
RebeccaBitcoin: You could eat clouds...
RebeccaBitcoin: you could also eat fire
RebeccaBitcoin: I guess we then have to define eat
BingoBoingo: justusranvier: Well, I experience the world as homo sapiens
justusranvier: The characteristic that sets you apart from the other primates is the ability to derive universal principles and apply them.
justusranvier: (Or other primate/pig hybrids, if that hypothesis turns out to be true)
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BingoBoingo: !up cgcardona
cgcardona: thank you sir. :-] authing w/ gribble as we speak
cgcardona: ok done.
cgcardona: good
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> mthreat: mircea_popescu: has ars customs completely cut amazon off from delivering? << i've not yet tried mail.
mircea_popescu: <cazalla> diablo has not looked like that for some time, she got a make over in diablo 3 << sadly.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> if easier to find bullet than coin, re-examine engineering priorities in project. <<< ahah the foregoing was worth it.
mircea_popescu: <decimation> If USG doesn't consider failure to pay federal taxes a basis to deny a security clearance, one wonders upon what basis the clearance is granted? <<< i don't think you understand how few people still pay their taxes.
mircea_popescu: i don't mean the schmucks that don't make anything.
mircea_popescu: justusranvier BingoBoingo re the virus discussion, i suppose you're familiar with the viral theory of the origin of the mitochondria
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Indeed
mircea_popescu: after all, they are genetically different (and that's why the mother dna is actually more dna than the father's)
kakobrekla: looking at resolved @ bitbet front page
kakobrekla: who figured out betting on 'no' works again?
BingoBoingo: Well, I may have to do some remembering... or reading... but it may have been a cellulaur organism rather than a virii that did mitochondrion
mircea_popescu: yeah, it may have been
BingoBoingo: mitochondria though are the ultimate example though of "If you can, you must" as having mitochondira is so much better than not having them
mircea_popescu: and even all the trouble of getting oxigen to them,
mircea_popescu: bloodstream, all the hassle of hemoglobin, the expense of feeces being 80% that
mircea_popescu: kidneys, everything's worth it just to make the tiny coal plant go.
mthreat: cgcardona: you lived on kauai right?
BingoBoingo: I mean organisms without mitochondria still exist, but... at still greater cost in what they are limited to being.
cgcardona: yea I’ve lived there off and on several times since 2002. why?
mthreat: cgcardona: when i get back to the US in 2016, i want to live there for 3-6 months, and i'm curious about housing options
asciilifeform: (^ on considerably less interesting subject than mitochondria)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lolk
cgcardona: where are you now? It’s an amazing place to live. kind of expensive but worth the price for what you get
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
cgcardona: of course it’s a small island so you get a little island fever after a while
cgcardona: thats why my family and i like to do 3-6 months on island at a time
cgcardona: but that sounds like what you’re planning so you should be good.
mthreat: cgcardona: in argentina now... I spent 1 week in kauai before. I'll be taking helicopter lessons with Mauna Lao Helicopters
cgcardona: oh sweet.
cgcardona: yeah i’ve yet to take helicopter tour there. I really wanted to this last time but never got around to it and then we ended up leaving early.
mthreat: cgcardona: they have schools on Oahu, big island, and kauai, and kauai just seems like the most beautiful of the islands
cgcardona: without questions. it’s the garden island. and def the bestIMO
cgcardona: its (dare I say) magical
cgcardona: ⭐️
mthreat: what would you estimate a place for a couple would cost per month, with a kitchen for cooking, somewhere not too far from Lihue airport
asciilifeform: ⭐️⭐️⭐️☭⭐️⭐️⭐️
asciilifeform: ^ if we're abusing unicode...
cgcardona: asciilifeform: *if* we’re abusing unicode? When aren’t we abusing unicode?
cgcardona: mthreat: i was just paying 800 for a studio downstairs apartment but it was a little on the island style side of things so we upgraded to a 2 bedroom for 1500 in downtown kapaa that was baiscally like a vacation rental. very nice and clean
cgcardona: so about 1500ish for something nice but relatively small.
mthreat: ok cool
punkman: buen dia
mircea_popescu: cgcardona i bet you that's more per sq foot than the businesses in downtown san francisco can possibly afford
mircea_popescu: according to some shit i read in the press.
cgcardona: mircea_popescu: according to some shit I read in the press Romania just got into btc
cgcardona: haha
cgcardona: i thought of you when I read that article. I’m like ‘huh?’ ‘wtf'
mircea_popescu: well... the press lol.
cgcardona: haha
mircea_popescu: buncha people had this same chuckle.
assbot: Romania buys into bitcoin big time | euronews, corporate
cgcardona: ah ok yea I figured y’all had seen it.
mircea_popescu: odds are this bunch is more numerous than the bunch that still reads romanian press.
cgcardona: MP - I saw that you answered me that noone has taken you up on the ether. I’m kinda surprised.
cgcardona: but I guess that was the point of the excersise at all so you’re probably not surprised
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