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mircea_popescu: im kind-of surprised. not rly, but hey.
cgcardona: where is the URL for that deal?
cgcardona: i’m still thinking of buying some there (yes I know the shame that will bring on me here)
cgcardona: `/s/there/ether/`
cgcardona: i’m still unclear if there is a hard cap on the numer of ether
mircea_popescu: ;;refresh
gribble: Order refresh successful, 2 orders refreshed.
mircea_popescu: tis in the book.
punkman: cgcardona: there's no cap
cgcardona: mircea_popescu: i still don’t totally know how to use the book
cgcardona hangs head in shame
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: article: '...player asshole narcissist dick in a NSA relationship.' << wtf is nsa relationship?
cgcardona: if there are docs Ill gladly read them
asciilifeform: one views the other on hidden camera?
mircea_popescu: cgcardona
assbot: #bitcoin-otc order book
cgcardona: punkman: really? hmm well I guess that means that picking up some ether hoping they increase in value probably isn’t a good idea
mircea_popescu: or you could just query gribble but im usually too lazy to
punkman: asciilifeform: no strings attached
cgcardona: MP - thanks
asciilifeform: punkman: aha
asciilifeform: because that line crashed my puny brain
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no strings attached.
punkman: asciilifeform: I liked your interpretation
mircea_popescu: like, you know, how people have sex.
asciilifeform: damnit, here i was, thinking 'nsa relationship' is now a standard thing
mircea_popescu: it actually comes from a great bogart line, he tells slim to walk around him.
mircea_popescu: "didja find any strings ?"
mthreat: hehe i want to see someone use that in real life some day
mircea_popescu: (same film, better known scene)
assbot: Lauren Bacall Whistle - YouTube
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: 'incel' article: what i always found interesting is that we always hear from the fellow who has yet to 'learn a skill become good at it' and not from the one who never learned how to safely unscrew the fuse on a woman because he had theorems to prove.
mircea_popescu: guess what ? that guy's still got theorems to prove.
asciilifeform: correct
asciilifeform: so we don't get article.
mircea_popescu: well inasmuch as we got plenty o theorems already proven..
mircea_popescu: we dun really need it either.
asciilifeform: 'man: would you like a book? Chukcha (similar to eskimo, butt of soviet jokes) replies: 'thank you - i already own a book.'
mircea_popescu: anyway, this entire "idiots figure they're people too" side of the internet is like a lake of stu
mircea_popescu: you can paddle all around it in a big canoe
asciilifeform: gedankenexperiment. imagine if it were not possible to starve to death - folks who can't find any food would, say, photosynthetize (this is not geometrically/thermodynamically possible in life, but imagine for a moment.) what would the people who have never, or almost never, eaten - write on the subject?
mircea_popescu: that it's gross, inconvenient and prolly unethical.
asciilifeform: assuming hunger still worked like it does in actual world
asciilifeform: i.e., you remain hungry while solar powered
mircea_popescu: dude this is actually a great fucking punishment.
mircea_popescu: i hope genetic engineering yields it.
mircea_popescu: it'd definitely make me enjoy reading teh internets more.
asciilifeform: even though man does not photosynthetize, this is rather close to reality in recent past. notice how prominently delicacies figure in old fairy tales
asciilifeform: and descriptions of feasts, in myth and legend
mircea_popescu: yup
punkman: sloth does photosynthesis
assbot: Log In - The New York Times
mircea_popescu: the entire premise of norse heaven is food.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you ever saw the daisies movie ?
asciilifeform: sloth << sure, so does man - for vitamin 'd'
asciilifeform: daisies << negative
mircea_popescu: it's not bad. author got banned because she displayed wastage of food.
mircea_popescu: 1960 czech republic.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> gedankenexperiment. imagine if it were not possible to starve to death - folks who can't find any food would, say, photosynthetize (this is not geometrically/thermodynamically possible in life, but imagine for a moment.) what would the people who have never, or almost never, eaten - write on the subject? << Reddit aspires to buy monitors with sufficient brightness to enable photosynthesis, gets scammed on kickstart
BingoBoingo: er
mircea_popescu: lol
asciilifeform: if anyone remembers dan mocsny (usenet crackpot linked here a while ago) - he dwelled in newsgroups devoted to 'incel' subject.
asciilifeform: everyone there, as i recall, fit the overall pattern (no theorems...)
mircea_popescu: the guy i linked is actually noteworthy because he takes the dilution of rape one step further : he claims his experience's been rape.
mircea_popescu: In fact, you could call this my own personal rape. I’m sure women will be up in arms for me calling it that, but what is the criteria for it? I feel shame. I am unable to talk about it with others. I will invariably be blamed for the outcome i suffered because of the way *I* acted. Being beta was ‘wearing a miniskirt’. Acting like a NiceGuy was ‘being overly flirtatious’. Respecting women and pedestalizing th
mircea_popescu: em was going up to a guys room at 2am for a late night coffee.
mircea_popescu: I deserved it for being unattractive. You deserved it for being too attractive. We both got fucked and not in the way we wanted it. You had no power and had violation inflicted upon you. I had no power or right to feel like a human being inflicted upon me. You were penetrated against your will. Feminism and woman bent me over and fucked me up the ass while laughing at me. We both wanted death. Yet i was a source of rid
asciilifeform: old. there were at least two poor devils in who did just this
mircea_popescu: icule, you are the poster child of Slutwalk. And so it is.
mircea_popescu: a really ?
asciilifeform: and worked it into a mega-flamewar lasting a year.
mircea_popescu: i am but an ignorant asshole.
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's lulzy what socialism's own "to each according to his needs" makes out of people.
mircea_popescu: a needy bunch.
decimation: "I got to have the pleasure of defending women from the barbs and negs of my player friends only to watch these same women i defended end up going home to sleep with them. My brain simply could not comprehend what the fuck was going on. What the fuck is wrong with these women? Oh Wait! I?m not allowed to question that."
mircea_popescu: << holy shit that's risky.
decimation: so the alpha male, femenism, the hot woman, and his own brain are raping him?
decimation: as the last pscyhiatrist might say, he might be happy if he wasn't so invested in being unhappy
mircea_popescu: <<< ahahh o brother.
asciilifeform: if you examine in detail the incel 'canon', most of the afflicted tend to believe in a quasi-mythical past, when they would have, presumably, been 'issued' something to fuck - like a soldier is issued his uniform
mircea_popescu: decimation i kinda say it too. and probably anyone with a clue that ever saw him.
mircea_popescu: he doesn't mention that part. obviously.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly, the various fringe groups all do this. anarchists have their pre-state garden of eden, so do goldbugs, so does everyone.
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is how one diagnoses a clinical failure of... imagination.
asciilifeform: (an organ like any other, apparently - fails)
decimation: in the days of arranged marraige he might have been issued a woman - if his father was a somebody
mircea_popescu: if his father was somebody he'd have been in a world of hurt.
mircea_popescu: such as.
assbot: Fridericus Rex, unser Konig und Herr pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
decimation: maybe he would then write about how his wife hates him or something
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, the fellow who was ordered to behead his best chum
mircea_popescu: myeah.
mircea_popescu: well, also teh historical prussian figure.
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BingoBoingo: The American Political class and their mythical 1950's
mircea_popescu: i suppose the success of socialism may trace to this, that it has no mythical age in the past.
asciilifeform: any good myth - has a dose of fact
decimation: encouraging the masses to believe that they live at the end of history certainly helps this myth
mircea_popescu: i suspect any good myth has a dose of nonfactual commonplace thought.
mircea_popescu: take the immaculate conception. it's not that any woman ever did. not even close.
mircea_popescu: but it's that so many men over the years thought about the possibility that maybe wifey/daughter/mom's just pregnant ?
mircea_popescu: like, no fucking, it just happened ?
mircea_popescu: please ?
penguirker: New blog post:
decimation: lol the altcoin Urea?
asciilifeform: fuckitall. watched that clip, now i just wanna be in friedrich's army. what have you done mircea_popescu!
decimation: I wonder what Friedrich would say about today's Deutschland?
asciilifeform: << translated by same people? (also famous folksong)
assbot: Unser Liebe Fraue (English Subtitle) - YouTube
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decimation: that makes me think of the Hessian Landesknecht dwelling across the Delaware from Washington's camp, waiting for the Whig generals to make up their mind...
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BingoBoingo: Watch the base of the thing holding the hoop
cazalla: oh snap
BingoBoingo: literally
asciilifeform: << re: 'mythical golden ages'
assbot: Wir wollen unseren alten Kaiser Wilhelm wiederhaben (English Subtitle) - YouTube
decimation: Note that many of the Germans who yearned for old Kaiser Wilhelm went to America to live "free"
decimation: this might have worked out for the first generation, but now their great-great-great grandchildren are yearning for Kaiser Wilhelm here ...
BingoBoingo: A hundred years ago most the the local papers were in German
decimation: America is a German country by ethnicity (of white people anyway)
decimation: it just became ... uncool ... to be German during WWI and WWII
BingoBoingo: Well, over much of the US the reason why small town X and small town Y were not bigger town Z, was the differing origins of the original settlers
decimation: I'm convinced that one of the reasons that pre-WWII germany spiraled out of control was because people who were able to make something of themselves had already left 50 years earlier
decimation: and the rest died in WW I
asciilifeform: just became ... uncool ... to be German << anglo elite's kool aid.
asciilifeform: germany as cultural wasteland during the wars << same
decimation: ascii I agree with you
decimation: unfortunately the German population immediately gave up and submitted to anglo rule
decimation: otherwise you might find a genuine Germantown somewhere
asciilifeform: germany is a thing that exists in the pages of books - like rome, ussr.
asciilifeform: and usa.
asciilifeform: there's its home now.
decimation: there is much truth in this. my grandmother's line comes from German settlers in Odessa
decimation: supposedly they showed a great reverance for Tzar Nikolai
decimation: nevertheless, like in Mircea's comic, real life goes on, and one cannot dwell in the past
asciilifeform: there'll be great kings in future. but not willie with the beard, the one with the long, long beard.
decimation: heh is that a reference to islam or jews or marxists?
asciilifeform: decimation: nope.
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decimation: there is actually a small Germantown in America:
assbot: Texas German - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
BingoBoingo: decimation: Similar towns exist in the Ozarks and Appalacia
BingoBoingo: With their own German dialacts
decimation: on Moldbug's recommendation I read this book:
assbot: The land of the dollar
decimation: The British newspaperman visited America around 1898 I think, he mentioned the terrible might of America and express fear that they could invade ... England
decimation: see the anglo elite above for why that didn't happen...
assbot: A disappearing German dialect still spoken in Missouri | KBIA
BingoBoingo: Who know what Scandanavian dialects might live in the frozen north of Minnesota
decimation: yeah MIssouri was the "open frontier" when the Germans were settling
BingoBoingo: Much of Missouri is still "frontier"
decimation: somewhere in the logs I linked to a modern German who expressed absolute dismay at "german culture" in America
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decimation: honestly I think the old guy who grew up speaking Texas German has a better claim on "germanness" then some kid who was brainwashed with post WWII allied propaganda
BingoBoingo: decimation: Thread seems to support the idea that Germany only lives in books and the festivals he finds so offensive
BingoBoingo: The Germans who settled the American frontier did not descend from techno clubs and Angela Merkel
BingoBoingo: Germany as a meaningful idea to their ancestors froze ~1830-1870
decimation: exactly
decimation: granted, it's a mistake to think of that as another golden age too - there's a reason they all left Germany after all
BingoBoingo: Right
BingoBoingo: But many of the German migrants weren't doing so out of poverty, but of poverty of opportunity and the perception of the opportunity to pretend to be the gentry they could not back home
TheNewDeal: sounds like the US
BingoBoingo: Well, what is history, but repetition
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mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> fuckitall. watched that clip, now i just wanna be in friedrich's army. what have you done mircea_popescu! <<< lmao. die kaisrin hat sich mit den franzosen alliiert, und das romiche reich gegen mich revoltiert die russen seind gefallen in preussen ein auf! lasst uns zeigen dass wir brave landeskinder sein!
mircea_popescu: And Grandma without joking, Said that when she was a young girl she could still drink from the Elbe, without getting sick
mircea_popescu: <decimation> I'm convinced that one of the reasons that pre-WWII germany spiraled out of control was because people who were able to make something of themselves had already left 50 years earlier << this is actually a pretty good theory.
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mircea_popescu: <decimation> granted, it's a mistake to think of that as another golden age too - there's a reason they all left Germany after all << that reason is population pressure.
mircea_popescu: it's one thing to leave golden age new york because you can't afford the rent
mircea_popescu: it's another to flee mumbai because you can no longer stand the stench.
mircea_popescu: ✠
mircea_popescu: bah wth is it.
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BingoBoingo: !up ColinT
ColinT: Thanks broingo
mircea_popescu: you know tab autofills.
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BingoBoingo: For anyone seeking lulzy 'Murican Libturd fail, Doomsday Preppers S03E07 ... Apparent Redditor imagining self as a raider
mircea_popescu: uh
mircea_popescu: how about instead.
BingoBoingo: lol
BingoBoingo: No one plans for the MPquisition
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mircea_popescu: lol DreadKnight is now reading my entire blog.
mircea_popescu: have some titties yo.
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform << didn't you link the text version ?
assbot: Johnny Cash - Cremation of Sam McGee - YouTube
cazalla: ooh, nice pointy ones, don't see them much anymore
mircea_popescu: this is true, strangely enough.
mircea_popescu: it used to be half the girls, when i was 15. by now it's maybe one in ten ? twenty ?
cazalla: nfi, all the ones i've seen in the flesh have been round
cazalla: you don't see ski slope titties either, saw a lot of them in vintage porn circa 30's 40's 50's
cazalla: looks like missus titties heh
DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, you do this thing where you start linking 2 more of your previous blog posts in the middle of the one I'm reading when things are getting interesting, it's like a psychological hook
mircea_popescu: i'm just good at what i do.
DreadKnight: I see; I have a lot of blog posts stacked for later on reading
mircea_popescu: the problem is those probably have links too.
DreadKnight: yeah :D
DreadKnight: pyramidal scheme
DreadKnight: lol
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mircea_popescu: speaking of pcp
assbot: PCP man - YouTube
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DreadKnight: that's not how you play frogger
ben_vulpes: what have i done
ben_vulpes: i went out for a movie with my brother and father and my mother got my wife wasted
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> << holy shit that's risky. << what's risky about that? i was unaware that rapists or pedophiles were 'created'
mircea_popescu: of course they are. there's insane variance over ethnic groups and historical periods.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> have some titties yo. << nice polka dots.
ben_vulpes: still, what's risky?
ben_vulpes: anyways, babe req's spatuling into bed
ben_vulpes: nite
ben_vulpes: lol p funny how the standing-up reflex is hardwired in.
xmj: g'morning
xmj: is anyone aware of any paypal-like startup that does insurance?
xmj: fluffypony: BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: xmj Nope
xmj: someone should do that.
xmj: incorporate on bermudas, bahamas or cayman islands, build an app, have someone set you up with int'l common law contracts...
xmj: it's not rocket science.
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chetty: xmj what sort of insurance? car? house? life?
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moiety: jurov: are you here?
ThickAsThieves: <mircea_popescu> << holy shit that's risky. /// Risky? Delusional, at least.
ThickAsThieves: Incel = incorrigible imbecile incidentally imprisoned in incorrect incorporeal inferences is inculpating insipidly
ThickAsThieves: !s
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ThickAsThieves: Does jborkl_ even exist here anymore? I think he also goes by Hollywood?
ThickAsThieves: ;;seen jborkl_
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ThickAsThieves: ;;seen Hollywood
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ThickAsThieves: I'm wondering if the blog in question should be in teh b-a feed still.
ThickAsThieves: Consider that my moving to have it removed, should anyone care to second it, or however it works...
artifexd: What blog?
ThickAsThieves: if i recall he pops in here only to notify of new website mining info features
moiety: ;; later tell ben_vulpes re gpg video, i'm no video maker, i'm happy to voice it but i'm not confident about making the video.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
moiety: hi ThickAsThieves
ThickAsThieves: Hello Moiety
ThickAsThieves: XAPO more expensive than credit
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moiety: how are you ThickAsThieves? also, whyyy would anyone choose xapo?!
ThickAsThieves: nice knowin ya MPEx!
ThickAsThieves: i'm pretty good, coffee in hand, cat on lap, catching up on the internet
ThickAsThieves: you?
ThickAsThieves: i wonder if Overstock knows BTCT is for sale :)
moiety: sounds perfect :] i'm good too, been away couple days (came back to feed the cats though), feeling refreshed.cats are bouncing off the walls now im back
ThickAsThieves: kakobrekla:who figured out betting on 'no' works again? /// not hanbot!
assbot: Line betting on BitBet, July 2014 | The Whet
ThickAsThieves: all those recent No resulions have little gain though
ThickAsThieves: the jig!
ThickAsThieves: sometimes we forget one of the cats in the florida porch
ThickAsThieves: when we remember it's all worked up and talkative
ThickAsThieves: probly cursing us out
ThickAsThieves: when we remember to let it in*
moiety: hahahaha grumbling away "bout bloody time" probably XD
moiety: kickstarter derpage:
assbot: One Fast Cat - Exercise Wheel by Sean Farley — Kickstarter
moiety: yep, it's a hamster wheel for cats
moiety: one ticket off the planet please!
fluffypony: lol
fluffypony: that's retarded
moiety: $175 worth of retarded
ThickAsThieves: whoa cats really run on wheels?
ThickAsThieves: i'd never have guessed that one
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ThickAsThieves: even though he makes a cute point, this Paul Carr guy makes me wanna shake a baby
danielpbarron: says "Forbidden"
ThickAsThieves: MPEx "We'll Go Down First"
BingoBoingo: $proxies
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moiety: ThickAsThieves: i can't see many cats doing it
moiety: BB! hows you?
BingoBoingo: moiety: Not bad
punkman: moiety, now I'm wondering if there's a treadmill for dogs
punkman: yep, tons of them
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moiety: who gets a dog to not walk it?!
ThickAsThieves: moiety
assbot: Rollie, a southern three-banded armadillo, playing - YouTube
moiety: you canb have them as pets?! he looks really happy too!
moiety looks around flat
moiety: could totally fit one in here
ThickAsThieves: he's probly really trying to murder the pink thing
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assbot: The Dispute Between Radical Feminism and Transgenderism
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chetty: bitcoin banned from twitter ?? lmao
chetty: I am on a forum like that, word bitcoin in a post and it goes to moderation ...
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ThickAsThieves: ugh the pdf got horrible right on the page i was reading when i linked it
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FabianB: $mpexstatus
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ben_vulpes: at the bank the other day i learned that physical checks in the us are all piped through the federal reserve. i also learned that this is not true of checks deposited via phnoe.
ben_vulpes: << where's ninjashogun when you need him?
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asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: usb demo << old hat.
dignork: asciilifeform: after usb potential attack vector publicity, now might be a good time to launch "usb firewall"
asciilifeform: dignork: what do you picture in a 'usb firewall' ?
dignork: asciilifeform: we discussed it before, for example usb hub which will pass through only storage device commands
asciilifeform: dignork: as i pointed out ages ago to ninjaspamgun, it is the responsibility of operating system to enumerate, e.g. only usb dildo on a given port, and not keyboard or whatnot
dignork: befire we talked about usb read-only condom
asciilifeform: it is a fool's errand to save people who use defective os from themselves
dignork: reach fool, potential :)
dignork: *rich
chetty: <asciilifeform> it is a fool's errand to save people ----from themselves
asciilifeform: for instance, i can exploitably crash winblows 7 using a gadget that only responds to legal mass storage std. commands.
asciilifeform: so what good does the filter do?
dignork: in the articles I've seen they cry about "evil keyboard" attack, this one is trivial to filter out
dignork: oh, an "evil network adapter"
asciilifeform: trivial on adult os
chetty: if someone can put on evil keyboard on my system I got lots bigger problems
asciilifeform: chetty: the notion was, evil keyboard disguised as whatever usb gizmo you normally buy (flash drive, mouse, etc.)
dignork: chetty: evil keyboard will do wonders on windows, with ctlr-esc+cmd+cr combo, not so much on other OSes
asciilifeform: dignork: evil network card - works best on apple box, which silently walks any network hardware it finds
dignork: asciilifeform: yep, so all apples are potential buyers for usb firewall :)
asciilifeform: dignork: or for adult os.
dignork: asciilifeform: it could also alert on high current draw
asciilifeform: dignork: your chipset+os does not alert on overcurrent ?
dignork: asciilifeform: didn't have a chance to verify tbh, also blinking led would be more visible than obsure message in /var/log
dignork: *obscure
ben_vulpes: "At some point, you may wish to delete private keys from a wallet.dat file but as of version v0.6.0 of Bitcoin-QT/bitcoind, there is no RPC method available for this purpose." << assholes.
mircea_popescu: why should there be a rpc method ?
ben_vulpes: because there was at one point, but now there isn't. because of the transition from text-based wallets to bdb wallets? no idea, but it looks, smells, and quacks like a regression.
mircea_popescu: mkay so the clustering software is being quirty wrt dropping new proxy servers.
mircea_popescu: if anyone's seen 403 forbidden errors from proxies i r apologize.
mircea_popescu: working to fix whatevr the hell this is.
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure you never had rpc address deletion.
mircea_popescu: obviously you could wipe them from text wallet easier than from the bdb flatfile thingee.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski ping me when you get a moment, i have a new size for ya
gribble: The operation succeeded.
artifexd: ;;ud bitcoin
gribble: | Jan 5, 2011 ... bitcoin. A crypto-currency allowing for anonymous transactions and using a decentralized architecture. Go Nanotube! Nanotube was able to ...
artifexd: "Go Nanotube!" << lol
mircea_popescu: lmao!
mircea_popescu:  224
mircea_popescu:  65 too
mircea_popescu: that's thumbups and thumbsdown respectively ftr.
mircea_popescu: lol pete made me think "omfg when did i publish that?!?!?!"
assbot: Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
FabianB: $mpexstatus
empyex: FabianB: Proxies: MPEx-Status: 1018 milliseconds Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.0025904 = 0.5181 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2801 @ 0.00081991 = 2.2966 BTC [-]
chetty: In an unusual breach of decorum, even for the divided Congress, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi chased Rep. Tom Marino across the House floor, taking offense at comments by the Pennsylvania Republican during debate on the border funding bill Friday night.
mircea_popescu: that old hag still has it in her to chase men ?!
chetty: well I dont think she was trying to get into his pants
mircea_popescu: what did he say anyway ?
mircea_popescu: << the daily lol.
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you know m !==== n.
chetty: “You know something that I find quite interesting about the other side? Under the leadership of the former Speaker [Pelosi], and under the leadership of their former leader [Rep. Steny Hoyer], when in 2009 and 2010, they had the House, the Senate and the White House, and they knew this problem existed,” he continued. “They didn’t have the strength to go after it back then. But now are trying to make a political issue out of it now.”
mircea_popescu: ;;seen jborkl
gribble: jborkl was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 22 hours, 25 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <jborkl> answered my next question
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves ^
mircea_popescu: chetty not bad.
mircea_popescu: so why did he run ? ridoinculous.
chetty: I dont think he ran, he just finished his time at the podium
mircea_popescu: a
ThickAsThieves: m !===n referring to what comment?
mircea_popescu: the incel thing.
mircea_popescu: was pretty lulzy tho. who actually bothered to make the png ? reddit ?
ThickAsThieves: i think so
ThickAsThieves: i didnt bother reading the incel details much
ThickAsThieves: seemed like a chore
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: nice knowin ya MPEx! << sadly nobody counts all the already burried X of Y and Z of K that were "going to".
mircea_popescu: fuck, did you know Mark Karpeles of MtGox was going to make an options exchange cca 2012 ?
assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( )
BingoBoingo: !b 2
ThickAsThieves: surely that would have been awesome
BingoBoingo: That might have killed Gox in 2012
mircea_popescu: all the shit people were going to over the years. god, i recall there was this start-up that was going to make something or the other obsolete.
decimation: insurance is one of the few financial products where you actually do have to know what you are doing
mircea_popescu: it was run by a coupla kids.
mircea_popescu: now what was it called...
decimation: that's the opposite of "let's run new paypal w/bitcoin ima ceo!" product
mircea_popescu: decimation dun get in the way of the people that read stackexchange, kid!11
decimation: if he wants to run a "financial service" from bermuda he exchange cash & bitcoin via mail
decimation: I have a friend who took all the exams to be qualified as an actuary. It took him a decade to qualify
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00082397 = 7.9101 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: decimation yeah, i know a chick that did that too. she was finished by the time she was 30
mircea_popescu: meanwhile all her friends were senior hr managers and whatnot.
decimation: heh yeah. an actuary can make decent pay but it's probably not worth giving up a decade to qualify
ben_vulpes: same is true of legal 'profession' in the states.
ben_vulpes: barristers take what - 4 years after hs in argentina?
mircea_popescu: she was making ok pay at that point, and the senior-whatever floozies had zilch job security
decimation: nah lawyering is much worse, most don't even make $50k
mircea_popescu: however, she had absolutely no upside. whereas said floozies can always blowjob their way into a VP of Erections position,
mircea_popescu: which pays in options, which in a bubble is always great
decimation: well, that's the problem with the bezzle, it doesn't pay much to have skills, only friends
mircea_popescu: which, if you ever wondered why "businessmen" of the us variety seem to not mind inflation so much : they're not businessmen, they're valets. not their business. they are mostly paid on a nominal increase basis. inflation is basically a gift to them.
mircea_popescu: if stock is at 50 and your option is at 60 and inflation is 10% a year you're guaranteed a 10% payoff on other people's money starting sometime in year 2.
mircea_popescu: just for sitting down, keeping "the decorum" and wearing the right powertie.
decimation: meanwhile everyone is "buying" your stock every week "for retirement"
mircea_popescu: which, if anyone wonders why ustardian "elites" are so soft spoken, submissive and complacent...
decimation: "(I actually have great sympathy for the professional. In a bureaucratic oligarchy like ours, the professional both rules and is ruled. At the top, there is no one on top of him. Yet he cannot change his mind. He would simply be replaced. There are always younger, more eager professionals. Sovereignty is conserved; it is always humans who rule; and yet, it seems that no one rules. Who gets to put his hand on the wheel? He can
decimation: stand there, and look like a captain. Chicks dig it. And yes, sir, it sure does pay.)"
chetty: excellent point, in the bureaucracy no one actually runs anything, its a self licking ice cream cone
mircea_popescu: BUT LOOK HOW RICH WE ARE!
mircea_popescu: maybe, if nobody knows what rich means.
decimation: but those who are posing at the captain's wheel know the truth on the inside
mircea_popescu: well i hope they don't read much trilema then
mircea_popescu: it may cause them.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.00082397 = 8.2809 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: o look at that, thanks to mod6 eulora is actually picking up an artist.
Duffer1: do they have an online portfolio?
mircea_popescu: we've been going over it in #eulora
Duffer1: no such chan on freenode?
mircea_popescu: uh ?
mircea_popescu: * Now talking on #eulora
mircea_popescu: * Topic for #eulora is: [Talk about all things Eulora! Wiki: Looking for a job ? Try]
assbot: Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: lolwut!
mircea_popescu: oh stupid bracket.
Duffer1: i'm smrat
Duffer1: don't ask lol..
mircea_popescu: lol
Namworld: Oh it's that advanced already? Looks good. Player seems to lack a bit of skin tho =P
mircea_popescu: << check that out, same shoulder height, different butt height.
mircea_popescu: Namworld funny, that's exactly what we're working on.
mthreat: mircea_popescu: there you are. I found the perfect gift for you:
assbot: UNT Mug - buy at
mthreat: it has your favorite word!
mircea_popescu: lmao
mircea_popescu: where is it ?
mthreat: where is what, the mug?
mircea_popescu: yes.
mthreat: it's online, probably impossible to import to argentina
mthreat: although they claim they ship to argentina
mircea_popescu: so you're trying to say i can't get cunt ?
mthreat: well...
mircea_popescu: fuck it, looks like it's the size of a bucket anyway.
mthreat: in reality, it is for UNT people (University of North Texas)
mthreat: who apparently had a radio station KUNT
ben_vulpes: it's only 16oz
ben_vulpes: just the right amount of coffee imho
ben_vulpes puts another pot on
ben_vulpes: oh man portland roasting was having a sale today - 6.99 USD/lb
ben_vulpes: i think i got like 6 pounds
ben_vulpes: beautiful lightly roasted portland coffee...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00081991 = 8.855 BTC [-]
mthreat: Blaxican -
ben_vulpes: wuuuuuuuut
mircea_popescu: lmao
fluffypony: mthreat: that is awesome
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $500 before October" Odds: 32(Y):68(N) by coin, 33(Y):67(N) by weight. Total bet: 3.467 BTC. Current weight: 90,619.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell DreadKnight btw #eulora is prolly relevant to your interests.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: << to prurience and inspire.
assbot: Mysterious disappearance of Tom Butterfield? (Bitcoin blogger) : Bitcoin
mircea_popescu: some buttcoin blogger found a willing woman somewhere, disappeared from buttcoinsphere ?
mircea_popescu: (if he had any sense, the stuff wouldn't be on shitter, turddit etc, but here. gl to anyone getting it off, ever.)
ben_vulpes: i'm just looking at r/bitcoin for the first time in ages
ben_vulpes: pretty amazing, the derpage
ben_vulpes: lol yeah assbot that's right
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: i need to hire some moar trolls to stir up the pots again
ben_vulpes: hm i may know a girl
asciilifeform: '...claimed to have definitive proof that Jon Matonis and others in the Bitcoin Foundation are corrupt...'
ben_vulpes: "hey do you want to get paid to troll idiot bitcoiners?"
mircea_popescu: shoot her.
asciilifeform: apparently our grasp of physics was correct in that it is impossible to communicate across parallel universes. and reddit is such a universe...
ben_vulpes: shoot...pardon?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform derpallel, at any rate.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes lol that came out weird.
mircea_popescu: like "shoot", except in the transitive mode.
mircea_popescu: not my fault english is analytic :D
ben_vulpes: shoot her the thing
ben_vulpes: ?
mircea_popescu: no, put her in the position where i go "shoot" at her.
ben_vulpes: still, what does shoot mean in this context?
mircea_popescu: is the mud any clearer ?
mircea_popescu: like someone says "hey mp, i got an idea" and i go "shoot".
asciilifeform: let's all pick a language with declensions & learn it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and i suppose you propose classical russian
ben_vulpes: yeah i think i can see through it now
mircea_popescu: "hey, it's the best synthesis of greek and latin you'll ever find"
ben_vulpes: anyways, i already pinged her its not like i really need permission
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually i'd be ok with any of the popular picks
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes this is how my mind works all the time. just, usually i translate to human speech better.
asciilifeform still suspects old sapir & whorf were on to something
mircea_popescu: anyway, someone should make an erlang with triple mode verbs and complete declension. need like 130 iq to speak it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we already have lojban, lol
mircea_popescu: does it have aspect ?
asciilifeform not a lojban aficionado
mircea_popescu: it's too idempotent and transitive for sanity.
ben_vulpes is going to sweat across town now
mircea_popescu: no dude, stirctly topical!
ben_vulpes: <ben_vulpes> tenyks: weather 97214
ben_vulpes: <tenyks> Portland, OR is 86.4 F (30.2 C) and Scattered Clouds; windchill is NA; winds are Calm
cazalla: you ever done that mircea_popescu ?
mircea_popescu: shot we need a weatherbot here.
asciilifeform: and yeah it has aspect
assbot: BPFK Section: Aspect
mircea_popescu: cazalla nah that comes out as an uninterpreted bitstream to me.
ben_vulpes: dang, cazalla
asciilifeform: what's everybody's favourite adult language?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform shit son that's some aspect there!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 219 @ 0.00258008 = 0.565 BTC [-] {7}
asciilifeform: could've sworn mircea_popescu wasn't the only other fellow here who does languages
mircea_popescu: no gnomic huh.
mircea_popescu: this is the problem with techies making things. no respect for history.
mircea_popescu: and for that matter, why do they not use the normal fucking aspect classification and have to make their own fucking words omgetc.
mircea_popescu: and also, i kinda want an eulora erlang.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: conlang?
asciilifeform: ('erlang' is a programming language, similar to 'prolog'...)
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: i'm moving to seattle!!!!!!
asciilifeform: << for aficionados of mr. mold
assbot: Unqualified Reservations: Hiatus
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah I spotted that last night, hopefully he will re-appear in print at some point
decimation: German has declension, although there are some irregularities
decimation: whenever I study German for awhile it makes me feel like an idiot for speaking English
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: mr mold << i'm hoping to see the archives in a sane format sometime soon.
ben_vulpes: ;;google 2 years in the swamp
gribble: Kermit's Swamp Years (Video 2002) - IMDb: <>; Kermit Swamp Years Blooper #2 - YouTube: <>; 2:32 Kermit's Swamp Years - "Complicated" - YouTube: <>
ben_vulpes: ;;google mpoe-pr two years
gribble: MPOE-PR, almost two years in the swamp. An anthology. pe Trilema ...: <>; Latest posts of: MPOE-PR - Bitcoin Forum: <;u=52741;sa=showPosts>; Maged permabanned MPOE-PR because she swore shock | < (1 more message)
ben_vulpes: << good ol' ptown
assbot: 4 from Portland area linked to online meth ring, indicted on federal charges |
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: nice! how happen?
assbot: Twitter appears to be blocking links to and other bitcoin sites : Bitcoin
assbot: Declension - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
novusordo: i laughed at the hypothetical sentences more than I should have
novusordo: but then the laughter subsided and a sense of inferiority crept in for only speaking english
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.2502251 = 2.0018 BTC [-] {3}
ben_vulpes: ;;google trilema pay tits
gribble: I'll pay for your tits pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <>; They really are Buttcoins nao pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <>; People have made blogs pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <>
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.24778124 = 3.9645 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28874 @ 0.00082194 = 23.7327 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: novusordo: but then the laughter subsided and a sense of inferiority crept in for only speaking english << best gift you could give your head, learn a language.
mircea_popescu: but one which comes packaged with an actual culture. learning shit like esperanto is beyond pointless for this reason. much like learning any "cool" lingo, there's no benefit for being able to speak like the 70s if you
mircea_popescu: 're not going to a lot of discos.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes lol at reddit going ono twitter is censoring us, let's make a party to get twitter banned from twitter!
mthreat: i'm gonna open an esperanto disco
mircea_popescu: is the cover charge gonna be payable in pixie dust ?
mircea_popescu: like, two palmfuls ?
mircea_popescu: << i wonder if he jacks off.
assbot: You can't drive around with a Dogecoin sticker on your car and not be a nice person. : dogecoin
mthreat: it'll have a "pasvorto" (password) to enter
mircea_popescu: <<< also, bitcoin subreddit advertising on reddit ?!
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: doge sticker << dude's not trolling?
mircea_popescu: they've got the singularity by now over there.
mircea_popescu: no difference.
mircea_popescu: dignork: chetty: evil keyboard will do wonders on windows, with ctlr-esc+cmd+cr combo, not so much on other OSes << what's that do on win ?
kuzetsa: :(
mircea_popescu: kuzetsa would you like some attention ?
kuzetsa: yes, please pleasure my genital
mthreat: just one
mircea_popescu: um i don't have the right tools here.
kuzetsa: sure, it was a typo, but pluralization for a single person's genitalia doesn't make sense anyway
mircea_popescu: riiiight... cis scum!
mircea_popescu: dude i
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22500 @ 0.00082562 = 18.5765 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: im so thankful for all the weirdo bored kids in the us being kept on life support. without all the time they waste navel grazing all these obscure jokes would be pointless.
kuzetsa: <-- this is why I made a sad smily face, actually... I was just trolling mircea_popescu when I said "pleasure me" or whatever
assbot: FRESHNESS BURGER - YouTube
dignork: mircea_popescu: it opens "run" input, which is as good as shell
mircea_popescu: aha
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: i didnt bother reading the incel details much << the restated maslow pyramid towards the end is the meat of that article.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34950 @ 0.00082277 = 28.7558 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: ;;seen mike_c
gribble: mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 7 hours, 26 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <mike_c> wasn't bolivia the one that banned bitcoin?

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