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xanthyos: is that the real marc summers?
xanthyos: of nickelodeon's double dare?
xanthyos: sorry i'm new here, but respect of it is!
mircea_popescu: !up MarcSummers
mircea_popescu: MarcSummers are you the real marc summers ? :p
benkay: <Basquiat_> bitstein: http://claritycurrency.com/ the latest in bitcoin startup scams // omg the scrolling divs
assbot: Clarity Currency Management | Home
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 59 @ 0.01282283 = 0.7565 BTC [-] {7}
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: * asciilifeform uses headphones mainly to 'turn off hearing' to improve concentration. < you wear those cause model m, admit it! << such zing :D
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 620.09, Best ask: 621.99, Bid-ask spread: 1.90000, Last trade: 620.08, 24 hour volume: 1743.48584101, 24 hour low: 620.0, 24 hour high: 628.76, 24 hour vwap: 622.95275537
mircea_popescu: miasma epidemiology huh ? good one.
mircea_popescu: if that 6th chip actually delivers what they claim it delivers... holy hell what comes after yotta ?
assbot: BitBet - Ukraine ceasefire will be reported before Aug 20 :: 0.2 B (16%) on Yes, 1.07 B (84%) on No | closing in 4 weeks 17 hours | weight: 98`801 (100`000 to 1)
mircea_popescu: what ceasefire, that thing'll be going for a decade.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.15691 = 1.5691 BTC [-] {2}
cazalla: as if parents used the internet "then"
jurov: <mircea_popescu> basically god is just this very large dice assemblage in non-space, feeding all the quarks dicerolls.<< i suspect he actually uses prng with fixed seed
mircea_popescu: just very large ?
jurov: needs not even be so large
BingoBoingo: God is actually just the old Debian RNG flaw, n always ===== 6
BingoBoingo: !up adrrr
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 311811 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 668 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 13 hours, 3 minutes, and 40 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 19100391549.6 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.1756
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 230 @ 0.00300029 = 0.6901 BTC [-] {3}
jurov: http://www.businessinsider.com/harry-devert-found-dead-in-mexico-2014-7 someone here wanted to travel to conference on land?
assbot: Harry Devert Found Dead In Mexico - Business Insider
mircea_popescu: sooo... dns doesn't want to propagate ;/
dub: your soa dont exist
dub: create a records for ns1/2 polimedia
mircea_popescu: dub do you see an ip for n1/n2 ?
dub: no
dub: 'gendns' doesnt have the records
mircea_popescu: namecheap is LYING TO ME
dub: !up Mats_cd03
Mats_cd03: my nigga
assbot: Hashcrack - Vitaly Nikolenko
assbot: C64 SID-Chip programmer took a hit of his bong - YouTube
dub: mircea_popescu: now ns1/2 need to no they are soa for mpex.co
dub: s/no/know jesus
mircea_popescu: they've been telling me they know for an hour
jurov: dub where you got it from? i can't dig anything about mpex.co from here
dub: I cheated
dub: # dig ns1.polimedia.us @ns11.gendns.com +short
dub: 185.28.190.143
mircea_popescu: http://who.is/whois/mpex.ws << it's there, for instance.
assbot: Mpex.ws Whois Lookup - Who.is - Who.is
dub: add that to your host file, and the problem moves to ns1|2.polimedia refusing to recurse for mpex.co
dub: which likely means they are not soa for it
dub: either you have no mpex.co zone on there or its waiting a rehup oslt
dub: some providers do a 6 hour push for eg
mircea_popescu: im on it, finally got everything in hand
mircea_popescu: damned dns finnickiness
dub tries to dos mpex
dub: left a sleep out of my loop :)
dub: lel
dub: toe'd out
jurov: up Duffer1
jurov: !up Duffer1
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 211 Ask: 238 Last Price: 222 24h-Vol: 14k High: 222 Low: 222 VWAP: 221
jurov: !up Rulother
jurov: !up zoinky
jurov: !up nubbins`
zoinky: 30 minutes of voice
zoinky: so graced
nubbins`: buenas
jurov: zoinky tell us something about you
fluffypony: tell us your innermost feelings and concerns
zoinky: pressure is killing me
jurov: lol
mircea_popescu: !s proxies
mircea_popescu: $proxies mpex.ws mpex.bz
empyex: mircea_popescu: Temporarily saved.
empyex: mircea_popescu: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz MPEx-Status: Error reaching trade engine (change: $proxies <newlist>)
mircea_popescu: $mpexlag
empyex: mircea_popescu: Error reaching trade engine
jurov: prolly hardwired to mpex.co
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1000 @ 0.00307014 = 3.0701 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: aite well, that's that. mpex back online.
mircea_popescu: i am a man with a much whiter beard.
jurov: 2FB7B452 is the new key?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 531 @ 0.00309733 = 1.6447 BTC [+] {10}
mircea_popescu: making a post nao.
jurov: not it is not
pankkake: mpex extradited from .co?
mircea_popescu: so it is lol.
pankkake: !up boobsboobs
BingoBoingo: Hello boobsboobs
BingoBoingo: !up mike_c
mike_c: thx
assbot: Game 13 - Death 1402 Life 8598 Year 980 - War of Life
mircea_popescu: game 13 ?! wasn't it 17 ?
mircea_popescu: o atc nm
mike_c: bout time death took an ass kicking
mircea_popescu: can death be killed ?
asciilifeform: '... and with strange eons even death may die.'
jurov: death dies last
assbot: How can this friend successfully ipo?
jurov reads and chokes
mircea_popescu: don't choke, swallow.
assbot: Revelation 20:14 NKJV - Then Death and Hades were cast into the - Bible Gateway
mircea_popescu: lol @that ipo
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 70 @ 0.01267562 = 0.8873 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 56 @ 0.01387588 = 0.777 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 68 @ 0.0124004 = 0.8432 BTC [-] {3}
thestringpuller: !s mpex update
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller it's up.
thestringpuller: MPEx is unreachable for me lol
thestringpuller: it's cool I should be working instead of trading right now
mike_c: it got extradited to western samoa
assbot: MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange.
mircea_popescu: ;;google .bz tld
gribble: .bz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.bz>; Nic.bz: <http://nic.bz/>; .BZ - ccTLD (country code top level domain) for Belize - Name.com: <https://www.name.com/domains/bz>
mircea_popescu: belize and samoa.
mircea_popescu: anyway, ima have more later on, just, wanted to get it back online asap.
jurov: so it works with the old key?
dub: seems a little quiet
jurov: thestringpuller wants me to enable coinbr, is it possible?
mircea_popescu: $proxies
empyex: mircea_popescu: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz MPEx-Status: Error reaching trade engine (change: $proxies <newlist>)
mircea_popescu: jurov no, needs new key. it's in the faq http://mpex.ws/faq.html#8
mircea_popescu: and yes you can enable coinbr.
thestringpuller: ah I see
mircea_popescu: use either .bz or ws at your option
asciilifeform: where'd 'co' go ?
jurov: hm i stopped looking on http://mpex.ws/faq.html#3, there's still old keyid
pankkake: and how do we trust the new key?
mircea_popescu: pankkake it's signed by me.
jurov: !ident mircea_popescu
jurov: ;;ident mircea_popescu
gribble: Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mircea_popescu', with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None
mircea_popescu: jurov that's MY key. of course it's the same.
jurov: how do you mean? A57D509A is different one
jurov: btw, how do i ask the keyserver who signed it?
mircea_popescu: are you using a cached copy of the faq ?
mircea_popescu: and one sec i;'ll link you.
pankkake: the keyserver should give you the key and its sub-signatures
jurov: 02DD2D91 ... browser prolly cached it
thestringpuller: ctrl-shift-r
assbot: Search results for '0x02dd2d91'
jurov: gpg--recv-key 02DD2D91 said: PGP trust model
jurov: gpg: depth: 0 valid: 3 signed: 2 trust: 0-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 3u
jurov: gpg: depth: 1 valid: 2 signed: 0 trust: 2-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 0u
jurov: there seems like useful info hidden there
mircea_popescu: jurov anyway, on faq #3 the only key is mine. it's not changed.
jurov: i see, the #3 is for something else..derrrrrrp
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform co's taking a little break, back later.
mircea_popescu: dub seems a little quiet << assbot won't relay till i get a hold of kako to allow teh connections.
dub: I was watching the site but yes I see a trade now
assbot: Welcome | Phuctor
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 370 @ 0.00310735 = 1.1497 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform pretty neat huh
asciilifeform: anybody here into optics ?
dub: what, like pr0n?
mircea_popescu: im into bed. laters!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu goodnight
asciilifeform: dub: regardless of whether for pr0n or not
dub: ...
asciilifeform: looking for info/experiences with chinese industrial cameras
punkman: asciilifeform: you putting together a pick n place?
asciilifeform: punkman: not actively, but slowly contemplating it when not doing other things
punkman: I got a few chinese industrial lenses, you probably want to avoid the cheap ones
dub: jurov: coinbr etr?
asciilifeform: punkman: almost certainly going to build an automatic paste printer, however. pumping paste through a handheld nozzle under microscope is a misery.
asciilifeform: and stencils suck.
punkman: only tried plain soldering under microscope, very tiring indeed
nubbins`: ;;view 21116
gribble: #21116 Sun Jul 20 15:55:46 2014 nubbins` BUY 1.0 2011 1BTC Brass Series-2 Casascius @ 1.3 BTC (Price flexible, depending on condition)
punkman: here's a relaxing landscape http://i.imgur.com/DRRKbHw.jpg
nubbins`: really didn't think they'd be this hard to find
jurov: coinbr is on, since now.
jurov: just need to fix the data on order screen
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 660481.28 in 1724 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -3.89
atcbot: 12k@240 40k@238 5k@237 | 57k@211 183k@210 200k@202
dub: jurov: orders cancelled or is that what you are fixing
jurov: no orders should be cancelled (maybe except X.EUR)
dub: dashboard sowing no orders since a few minues
dub: minutes*
jurov: fuck no.. they were renumbered???
jurov: /facedesk
dub: also the balances are missing the amount that was in the orders
jurov: where is mircea?
jurov: oinbr will go offline till i sort out the mess
nubbins`: ;;seen mircea_popescu
gribble: mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 22 minutes and 2 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> im into bed. laters!
jurov: def snafu(self):
jurov: flash("Sorry, CoinBr is read-only due to mpex recovery processing. Normal service will resume shortly.",'warning')
jurov: i have a dedicated method for it by now...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.79167912 BTC to 12`353 shares, 14504 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 234 @ 0.00311 = 0.7277 BTC [+]
dub: glhf
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 18.26180944 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1588 satoshi per share
nubbins`: glhf, sweet acro
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 568 @ 0.00300036 = 1.7042 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 203 @ 0.00298447 = 0.6058 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 500 @ 0.0029808 = 1.4904 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1102 @ 0.00295302 = 3.2542 BTC [-] {6}
FabianB: $mpexstatus
empyex: FabianB: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz MPEx-Status: 748 milliseconds (change: $proxies <newlist>)
FabianB: ;;later tell mircea_popescu how about revoking A57D509A ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
FabianB: MPEx.rb users: just change "mpexkeyid" in $HOME/.mpex/config.yaml to 02DD2D91 and sign it before usage
jurov: coinbr should be okay now, check your accounts
jurov: mpex broker really cannot be done by someone like benkay who needs all things to be neatly lined up
jurov: this would drive them crazy
jurov: how would one prepare a recovery process for exchange chaging all the order IDs?
pankkake: ask them to fix their shit? well…
pankkake: my account looks ok
jurov: oh yes calling mircea off from blowjob and ask him to change order IDs back?
jurov: riiiight
jurov: at least coinbr got the dubious privilege of managing order #1
kakobrekla: ;;later tell mircea_popescu yes.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Prison (HBO) - YouTube
assbot: Doffx +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
pankkake: if only a thing such as guids existed!
pankkake: !up Doffx
Doffx: Oh, cool thank you.
Doffx: Its been a while since I was on IRC.
Doffx: What rating do you need in WOT to get level 2?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.00275905 = 0.5518 BTC [+]
FabianB: doesn't depend on rating amount
thestringpuller: ;;gettrust Doffx assbot
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user Doffx to user assbot: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=Doffx&dest=assbot | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=assbot | Rated since: Fri Apr 11 02:04:55 2014
FabianB: only whom you connect with
thestringpuller: ;;gettrust Doffx
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask Doffx!~doff@173-10-74-110-BusName-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user Doffx: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=Doffx | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Doffx | Rated since: Sat Apr 21 16:07:28 2012
thestringpuller: If I was id'ed I'd rate you
thestringpuller: can't do that till I get to my key machine
thestringpuller: Doffx: ^
Doffx: Ahh gotcha.
thickasthieves: “In order to ensure that the Island’s [Isle of Man] international reputation is maintained, it has been decided that certain activities relating to virtual currencies should be brought within the Anti-Money Laundering/Countering the Financing of Terrorism (“AML/CFT”) framework. "
Doffx: Anything good happening, its been a long while, I used to live in this channel not too long ago.
Doffx: I think after watching several exchanges go down, and luckily not losing anything I stopped logging in.
pankkake: ;;rate Doffx 1 #bitcoin-assets +v
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Doffx has been recorded.
Doffx: Thanks!
pankkake: I almost lost to Bitcoin-24 (anyone remembers that one?)
pankkake: apparently was ran by a teenager on a personal account
Doffx: I remember it, he had margin trading going if I remember correctly early on.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.02890175 = 0.578 BTC [-]
Doffx: I also remember an article talking about his age and that he had a ton of btc.
Doffx: If its the same one.
pankkake: perhaps
assbot: Students hack Tesla Model S, make all its doors pop open IN MOTION The Register
jurov: kakobrekla if you want nejc to have a lil accident...
thestringpuller: Wasn't bitcoin-24 some like asian kid just getting in college?
FabianB: nah, that was bitcoinica
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 565 @ 0.00277204 = 1.5662 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 354 @ 0.00284409 = 1.0068 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 536 @ 0.00311994 = 1.6723 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: Generally Azn kids + Australia ==== Scam, ex, Zhou Tong, Trade Fartress
thickasthieves: zhou tong makes dope songs tho
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 34 @ 0.02890175 = 0.9827 BTC [-]
assbot: 31 Pictures That Prove South Africa Is The Craziest Place On Earth
thickasthieves: next time dont fuck with my NFLX short!
xmj: how much of a difference exists between doing business in the US and A with a) a LLC or b) a C corporation?
mike_c: i've heard anecdotally that companies don't like to sign contracts with LLCs, but not sure why.
benkay: <jurov> mpex broker really cannot be done by someone like benkay who needs all things to be neatly lined up // lining things up neatly first makes dealing with the inevitable manual stuff vastly less of a headache.
xmj annoyed.
xmj much annoyed
benkay: i don't *need* things any particular way. i *build* things a certain way to reduce my future headache.
xmj: benkay: PM.
benkay: <jurov> how would one prepare a recovery process for exchange chaging all the order IDs? // gotta be manual.
benkay: (who knows...)
jurov: that isn't substantially different from what i wrote
benkay: just addressing your mischaracterization of me. just because i have opinions about mpex agent's test suite doesn't mean i don't do manual data munging (or have people do it) when appropriate.
Pierre_Rochard: xmj: do you want pass-through taxation or not? That (to my strictly accounting-based knowledge) is the primary difference
thickasthieves: LLC's are "looser", less formalized than a normal corp (less meeting/documentation requirements, flexible accounting), money is passed through to partners for taxation, rtaher than taxed at corp level,
benkay: re llc vs c-corp, i've seen no difference.
benkay: c's can own llc's, and vice versa.
thickasthieves: a startup can pass losses to personal taxes
BingoBoingo: Muddling up shit even more are S corps
jurov: benkay, i like to tease you. but still, dreaming of building full-stack mpex model which will get obsolete on mircea's whims...
jurov: at this point i feel mpexagent can be tested sufficiently by replaying its own log
jurov: pympex updated
jurov: $proxies
empyex: jurov: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz MPEx-Status: 1028 milliseconds Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91 (change: $proxies <newlist>)
jurov: $proxies mpex.ws mpex.bz mpex.coinbr.com
empyex: jurov: Temporarily saved.
empyex: jurov: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz mpex.coinbr.com MPEx-Status: 422 milliseconds Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91 (change: $proxies <newlist>)
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021701 B (Total: 474.55 B). Delta: -0.73 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+]
assbot: Parallel Port SID6581 Interface
bitcoinpete: "China signed a bilateral currency swap agreement worth 150 billion yuan ($24.17 billion) with the Swiss central bank, which can invest up to 15 billion yuan in China's bond market."
thestringpuller: bitcoinpete: all out war on the dollar now. ;)
bitcoinpete: it's heating up
mircea_popescu goes to message assbot, messages assboy instead.
mircea_popescu: FabianB why ?
mircea_popescu: ;;seen pizzaman1337
gribble: pizzaman1337 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 17 weeks, 2 days, 21 hours, 3 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <pizzaman1337> [unreliable source?]
kakobrekla: assboy lol
kakobrekla: pizza is around just not typing here.
mircea_popescu: o just the man i wanted to see.
mircea_popescu: jurov: coinbr will go offline till i sort out the mess << ohai.
pizzaman1337: oh hey, now I can talk
mircea_popescu: jurov:how would one prepare a recovery process for exchange chaging all the order IDs? << order ids have always been a motherfucking bitch. new trade engine install, so there's that. sorry j!
mircea_popescu: pizzaman1337 :p
mircea_popescu: don't you now feel sheshul.
pizzaman1337: very sheshuled
mircea_popescu: !up Doffx
pizzaman1337: kakobrekla: long time no-see. bit4x going well still?
mircea_popescu: Doffx : all you need is for anyone in assbot's direct trust ring to rate you positively.
kakobrekla: pizzaman1337 world domination proceeding as planned.
mircea_popescu: pizzaman1337 no, he's just losing 1% a month.
mircea_popescu: which means he'll be the last btc biz to fail, but it'll still be a FAIL
kakobrekla: that is completley another scam.
kakobrekla: dont mix the two.
mircea_popescu: this is what pirate said!
pizzaman1337: -1%/month sounds like world domination to me. almost.
pizzaman1337: kakobrekla: are those guys still planning on setting up an exchange?
mircea_popescu: "but there is some ambiguity in this bet depending on the time zone..." <<< "I'm the last person on earth to not know what timezone bitbet uses through no fault of my own and also not having bothered TO READ THE MOTHERFAQING FAQ! and so therefore there's ambiguity in this bet. Not in my dumb fucking head that wouldn't be fit to grace a gargoyle. "
pankkake: I read "gloryhole"
pankkake: it works, I think
kakobrekla: pizzaman1337 hint: try btce demo, yes demo.
pizzaman1337: kakobrekla: no depth, orders don't fill as desired
mircea_popescu: pankkake i think it's even better.
kakobrekla: bingo.
mircea_popescu: !up riX2000
mircea_popescu: FabianB: doesn't depend on rating amount << til fabian is a fucking heretic. SMALL AMOUNT OF DEPENDS!
bitcoinpete: $211,000,000,000 = $AAPL and $GOOG combined cash holdings
bitcoinpete: also… 0 btc
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete people gotta learn the limitations of linear interpolation sometime.
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: these people being...
mircea_popescu: well in general.
bitcoinpete: linear extrapolation is also horribly overused
bitcoinpete: like the dood who says "29b ppl on planet earth is no biggie"
bitcoinpete: what would the lines at the louvre be like then?
mircea_popescu: exactly what happens when you say "cash holdings" about 221 bn.
FabianB: mircea_popescu: just if you consider it potentially compromised (the old key)
mircea_popescu: well... they're not exactly cash, now are they. obv pros know what it implies, but random person on the street... cash is cash rite ?
mircea_popescu: FabianB i don't, so i'm just shelving it.
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: calling it "cash" makes it soup as liquid as soup
bitcoinpete: when it's probably as liquid as cement
FabianB: yeah, then no need to revoke
bitcoinpete: *makes it sound
mircea_popescu: $mpexlag
empyex: mircea_popescu: 1009 milliseconds
FabianB: was wondering too, i have two theories for the lag
mircea_popescu: FabianB i don't see it tho, from my side ?
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves: “In order to ensure that the Island’s [Isle of Man] international reputation is maintained, it has been decided that certain activities relating to virtual currencies should be brought within the Anti-Money Laundering/Countering the Financing of Terrorism (“AML/CFT”) framework. " << right. anyone who didn't see that one coming should not be a ceo in the first place.
FabianB: since using mpex.bz instead of trade engine ip now it's doing a dns lookup
FabianB: and i moved the bot to singapore
mircea_popescu: pankkake: I almost lost to Bitcoin-24 (anyone remembers that one?) << oh yeah. i kept wanting to write a scathing piece, kept putting it off, then they belly up'd. lost my article heh.
FabianB: but pure ping is around 200 ms
mircea_popescu: a the dns may be it yes.
mircea_popescu: still, makes $mpexlag actualy more valuable as a middle-of-the-road sort of measure.
FabianB: dunno if i should cache it; on the other hand it's realistic, since clients make a dns lookup as well usually
mircea_popescu: you can in principle cache it if you want, at the risk that you know, if it changes you have a bad cache.
FabianB: i think i'll keep it that way
mircea_popescu: anyway, this new setup is pretty fucking sweet.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 300 @ 0.002999 = 0.8997 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ahyaha kite surfing accident ? that's cute.
mircea_popescu: they meant kike surfing amirite ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: his nailgun must've had empty clip.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 300 @ 0.002999 = 0.8997 BTC [+]
fluffypony: heh heh
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: lol those dentures...
bitcoinpete: sent that to my wife actually
asciilifeform always imagined that dentures must be serious business in the turd world, but never seen this before.
mircea_popescu: nuts lol. "Cannibals"
bitcoinpete: asciilifeform: african dentistry is something else. their notions of "health" and "cosmetically attractive" are wildly different.
bitcoinpete: it's mostly a "no pain, no problem"
bitcoinpete: like most of the world, i suppose
bitcoinpete: i wonder if they get second-hand dentures from the western world in the same shipments as t-shirts and jeans
bitcoinpete: and old computer parts
asciilifeform: bitcoinpete: why import. denture probably outlives owner.
bitcoinpete: i can't wait until dentures make their way into the north american "sharing economy"
bitcoinpete: "make money while you sleep" (in the library, mall, etc.)
mircea_popescu: !up evwebweb
bitcoinpete: "If we are honest and have the strength to face reality, we will realize that the Soviet Union did not collapse. It simply moved, along with Mao and Pol Pot, to Washington and London."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know i grew up in the strict idea that eyeglasses are this made-for-user things, it completely fucking boggled me to see people "trying" on glasses.
bitcoinpete: "if we discount the pavlovian conditioning, the only conclusion is that the entire news cycle pertaining to the downing of the Malaysian airliner is orchestrated in order to lay the blame on Putin."
assbot: What Happened to the Malaysian Airliner? -- Paul Craig Roberts - PaulCraigRoberts.org
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: that's more like suits
bitcoinpete: an eyeglass tailer… now there's an idea!
bitcoinpete: *tailor
Namworld: I just call that an optometrist...
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves: next time dont fuck with my NFLX short! << lmao. tat's out fo blood.
assbot: [MPEX] [Q.TEST] 987654321 @ 1.23456789 = 1219326311.1264 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: thar she bloes.
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 620.51, Best ask: 621.98, Bid-ask spread: 1.47000, Last trade: 620.51, 24 hour volume: 3919.19645834, 24 hour low: 615.0, 24 hour high: 628.0, 24 hour vwap: 619.978165511
mircea_popescu: jurov: at this point i feel mpexagent can be tested sufficiently by replaying its own log << this is hoiw you know you're in irl business :D
mircea_popescu: $mpexlag
empyex: mircea_popescu: 877 milliseconds
mircea_popescu: $proxies
empyex: mircea_popescu: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz mpex.coinbr.com MPEx-Status: 428 milliseconds Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91 (change: $proxies <newlist>)
mircea_popescu: FabianB well what is it, 8 or 4 ? :D
bitcoinpete: ;;nethash
gribble: 138890613.616
FabianB: i guess it has high volatility :)
FabianB: $mpexlag
empyex: FabianB: 764 milliseconds
FabianB: maybe i should move it to europe
mircea_popescu: nah dont adjust measuring stick to cock.
mircea_popescu: imo this setup is ideal, measure from singapore to amsterdam
FabianB: heh, was just about to start an instance in amsterdam, ok, let's keep it in sg
FabianB: hm, dns lookup is 5 ms
mircea_popescu: it fucking should be.
mircea_popescu: i actually have pretty cool nservers, irrespective of all the dub hate :D
FabianB: 64 bytes from 23.235.235.113: icmp_seq=1 ttl=42 time=264 ms
FabianB: wondering if bot is trying ipv6 first
mircea_popescu: 200ish sounds more credible.
mircea_popescu: btw you can take off that (change) part. it's not useful anymore.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: somebody else's glasses, within 10% or so, are, i suppose - better than none
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the problem is how the fuck do you measure
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: where was this - zimbabwe ?
mircea_popescu: costa rica.
mircea_popescu: $proxies
empyex: mircea_popescu: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz mpex.coinbr.com MPEx-Status: 557 milliseconds Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91
FabianB: hm. disabled ipv6, so that's not it
mircea_popescu: so mpex opened.... HIGH on low volume ?
mircea_popescu: isn't this like exactly the opposite of what should have happened ?
kakobrekla: that block finder table is missing sum(all) on top
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6689 @ 0.00081082 = 5.4236 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00081082 = 4.0541 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7115 @ 0.0008171 = 5.8137 BTC [+] {2}
bitcoinpete: Isis is marking Christian homes with the letter N, in Arabic ن which means “Nazarean”, so they pay punitive taxes. pic.twitter.com/THXzy0bSU1
bitcoinpete: via taleb
bitcoinpete: better than lamb's blood on the door frame and losing a first born… but still
bitcoinpete: like getting kicked in the balls is better than a firing squad
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: maybe this is better as a trilema comment, but how are DERPS adjusted againt BTC volatility since they are priced in fiat?
mircea_popescu: they are not, since you can just buy bitcoin with your fiat.
thestringpuller: will you ever do non btc related derps (it seems even viable to ycombinator suckiness)
mircea_popescu: if there's demand
mircea_popescu: !up Doffx
mircea_popescu: Doffx wha seems to be the trouble ?
Doffx: No trouble.
Doffx: Was just coming back to the old channels to start chatting with old friends
mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust assbot Doffx
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask Doffx!~doff@173-10-74-110-BusName-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Doffx: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Doffx | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Doffx | Rated since: Sat Apr 21 16:07:28 2012
Doffx: Maybe learn something new
mircea_popescu: so you need to id with gribble and pm assbot !up
Doffx: Oh, I thought I had.
Doffx: Yep, seems happy now.
mircea_popescu: so whatcha been up to ?
Doffx: Same stuff, just kinda stopped popping in to the channels when I started a new job.
thestringpuller: what kinda job?
thestringpuller: if you dont mind
Doffx: IT for a financial institution.
mircea_popescu: girl i met recently asks me in all seriousness "if you could have any job in the world, what would it be ?"
fluffypony: and you said astronaut, right?
Doffx: Fireman
mircea_popescu: actually i said tigress tamer.
mircea_popescu: it'll hit her like a ton of bricks sometime later.
kakobrekla: its a trick question.
thestringpuller: i want to be a cosmonaut
assbot: Why the lion normally wins in a fight with a tiger in Lion vs Tiger Discussion Forum
assbot: :
dignork: plane dissapears about 3:20
dub: showing the su-25 intercept?
dignork: i'm not sure what i see there, never seen the real screen :)
mthreat: who funds RT?
dub: who funds every other media outlet?
mthreat: no i actually watch RT in spanish, but i'm curious who funds it
mthreat: (i.e. not a rhetorical question)
kakobrekla: russians
dub: considering the level of pandering I'd guess its russian state funded
dub: much like cnn or fox is usg powered
mthreat: ok. i just like to know. I watch it for a different point of view from CNN et al
mircea_popescu: mthreat some candian holding corp for a bunch of english twerps
mircea_popescu: thompson fambly.
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: crazy canuckistanis...
mthreat: RT has an american chick, Eva Golinger, who covers latin american news in spanish
mircea_popescu: so what you want to buy her ?
mthreat: nah.. she's paid for already
bitcoinpete: off to pottery class again. mostly to set an example for benkay ;)
bitcoinpete: cheers
dub: don't forget to IPO the result
kakobrekla: eskimo can do the baking.
dub: petespotteryashtrays.com
dub: 'xactly
benkay: pottery? what?
benkay: <jurov> benkay, i like to tease you. but still, dreaming of building full-stack mpex model which will get obsolete on mircea's whims... // the point is not a full model of mpex, the point is a full testing of all paths through a codebase, guaranteeing its performance under known inputs.
benkay: clearly, a changing of order-id's would have been (prior to today) an unknown unput
thestringpuller: Joys of driving a fast car: when there is no traffic, get home instantly.
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 619.99, Best ask: 622.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.01000, Last trade: 622.0, 24 hour volume: 3952.32574325, 24 hour low: 615.0, 24 hour high: 627.69, 24 hour vwap: 619.695633373
assbot: Can the Su-25 intercept and shoot down a 777? | Locklin on science
dub: obama said they had a bird overhead so he has the whole thing in 4k res with 5.1 dolby
dub: pretty obvious at this point why he's not sharing
asciilifeform: dub: 'pixar' render farm only goes so fast.
dub: no doubt
dub: a bit more work than the soviet 'radar leak'
benkay: thestringpuller: the leaf can go faster than 60 mph?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11205 @ 0.00080752 = 9.0483 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 272 @ 0.00299998 = 0.816 BTC [+] {4}
decimation: re: mh17 : I find it hard to believe that someone who has the skills to successfully operate a high-altuitude SAM system can also fail to properly identify his target, especially confusing a 777 with a plane half its size and operated by prop
decimation: with a service ceiling 10,000 feet below the 777 altutitude
dub: speaking to that last analysis there has been a palpable sense of desperation in anything out of kiev lately
decimation: re: kitesurfing, it is an extremely dangerous sport, people die all the time
decimation: re: other people's glasses: obligatory: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=836
assbot: Loper OS » Programmer’s Editors, Illustrated.
mircea_popescu: <dub> pretty obvious at this point why he's not sharing << accidentally also merkel sunbathing nude in background ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 500 @ 0.00285407 = 1.427 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 50 @ 0.02890175 = 1.4451 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: ;;remove 21092
gribble: Order 21092 removed.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: got me a xyz mover.
kakobrekla: good stuff, which one?
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: 100 usd. try that on for size.
kakobrekla: jesus.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: old 'microarrayer' carcass.
kakobrekla: if it fits your requirements, defo a better choice.
asciilifeform miser, cackles
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: swiss motors. same ones, actually, as in the machine i used to program.
asciilifeform: ('maxon')
xmj: so
xmj: fluffypony: earlier today i've incorporated something in the US.
xmj: "just 'cause"
decimation: ascii was it on ebay?
asciilifeform: decimation: aye
decimation: I find most ebay electronics to be overpriced
decimation: anything with "hp" on the label goes for 2x what it is worth
asciilifeform: decimation: for consumer junk, sure. but these motors, alone, usually sell for a few 100s each.
kakobrekla: servos?
asciilifeform: steppers
decimation: I gues the lesson is to buy parts, not assembled equipment
asciilifeform: decimation: i usually use ebay to source 'one of a kind' relics like this.
kakobrekla: new cnc parts arent cheap. used ones sometiems re.
kakobrekla: for 100$ i cant even ship my machine domestically.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: for this application, i don't really need the stiffness of a traditional cnc rail set. but the '3d printer' kits are also unsuitable (poor accuracy, and they usually have moving tables.)
xmj: g'morning
decimation: ascii what will you use for a position sensor
xmj: what's the quickest way to get a US EIN after incorporating?
asciilifeform: decimation: optics
decimation: marked reference points or the board itself?
asciilifeform: decimation: board.
asciilifeform: decimation: (and component trolleys)
decimation: that would be slick
asciilifeform: decimation: initially this thing will be put in service as, essentially, a waldo.
decimation: waldo?
asciilifeform: ;;google waldo robot
gribble: Remote manipulator - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_manipulator>; Waldo (short story) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waldo_(short_story)>; Waldo (remote manipulator) - Muppet Wiki: <http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Waldo_(remote_manipulator)>
asciilifeform: decimation: traditional name for any robotic gizmo driven manually
decimation: heh from heinlein. is this an advantage because it has finer controls than your hand?
asciilifeform: decimation: considerably finer. and stays vertical.
decimation: perhaps with the future hope of creating a closed-loop automated system
asciilifeform: future.
Vexual: wtf are you building ascii? optics= machine vision, or are you talking smaller?
mircea_popescu: he's taken the sexbot discussion to heart.
Vexual: lol
Vexual: piezo love needs a lot of foreplay
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform re aaron toponce's "urandom, random, same thing&what the hell's the difference", i guess some people just don't wanna sit down and actually get a megabyte to work on.
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mircea_popescu: i'd do her.
nubbins`: might wanna check her teeth first
mircea_popescu: course non-monkey tits are on the abdomen not on the torso, but w/e
dub: eww smoker
nubbins`: well ya know. realism this ain't
nubbins`: i don't think zebras have six tits at any location on their body
mircea_popescu: four, by the pubic mound. like all herbivores.
mircea_popescu: basically that little bit of fat under the hair above a gal's gash turns into an udder with herbivores.
nubbins`: gash
nubbins`: ham wallet
nubbins`: salmon canyon
dub: sausage wallet
mircea_popescu: not everyone's thin, dub.
nubbins`: do you put your money in a leather wallet or a dollar wallet?
nubbins`: ;;ud ham wallet
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ham%20Wallet | Mike: Jenny? Jenny: Yeah Mike? Mike: I was thinking about melting your fucking face off by rocking your ham wallet for six hours, what do you think?
mircea_popescu: dude this is a sad generation.
nubbins`: the gentleman wishes to rock the lady's ham wallet for six hours
mircea_popescu: the gentleman aspires to a position of dominance, imagines himself unable to cope and offers the sad copout of ... 6 hours ?
nubbins`: if you can't do it well, do it for an unpleasantly long time
nubbins`: ;;google havelock
gribble: Havelock Investments: <https://www.havelockinvestments.com/>; Havelock, North Carolina - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Havelock,_North_Carolina>; Havelock - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Havelock>
nubbins`: ;;ud havelock
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Havelock | Aug 20, 2005 ... Example 1. *Man walks into post* "Dude, you just pulled a Havelock" Example 2. "My new Havelock is very warm, I think I'll wear it to school".
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