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asciilifeform: !w poll
watchglass: Polling 12 nodes...
watchglass: 184.108.40.206:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.083s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=637353
watchglass: 220.127.116.11:8333 : Alive: (0.082s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=637353
watchglass: 18.104.22.168:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.141s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=637244
watchglass: 22.214.171.124:8333 : (pool-108-31-170-3.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.158s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=637353 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 126.96.36.199:8333 : Alive: (0.161s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=637353
watchglass: 188.8.131.52:8333 : Alive: (0.282s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=637353 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 184.108.40.206:8333 : Alive: (0.232s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=637353
watchglass: 220.127.116.11:8333 : Alive: (0.230s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=637353
watchglass: 18.104.22.168:8333 : (static.22.214.171.124.clients.your-server.de) Alive: (0.339s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=189677 (Operator: jurov)
watchglass: 126.96.36.199:8333 : Alive: (0.329s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=637350
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snsabot: Logged on 2020-06-24 12:58:47 asciilifeform: recall the demonstrative wank re ladar levison and his 'lavabit' etc.
shinohai: ^ can't read either of above linx :/
shinohai: ty asciilifeform
shinohai: lulzy "There's an app for that!" (tm)
asciilifeform: shinohai: the morons' attempts at 'crypto' imho are quite reminiscent at '90s arab attempts to bake nuke (where they'd sell one another, and buy from usg provocateurs, 'mysterious artifacts' with cyrillic labels, + alchemical formulae to go with'em )
asciilifeform: aaand afaik this is at least the ~third~ well-publicized bust of similar snake oil vendor. (other 2 iirc were on qntra..)
asciilifeform: and i expect will do 0 to discourage the 4th, n-th, n+1st.
gregorynyssa: few programmers have had the courage to call out "never roll your own crypto" as propaganda.
gregorynyssa: but the FFA project is turning this into a reality. (=
asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: the morons suffer from very different problem than 'no actual crypto avail.' consider, even ye olde gpg is galaxies ahead of the nonsense they were using (and PAYING! for.) but for'em may as well not existed.
asciilifeform: may seem strange that professional criminals suffer from same disease as ameri-corporate 'culture', bureaucrats, etc. but it seems that they do -- will willingly prefer costly snake oil with veneer of 'luser-friendly' UI to anyffin that stands a chance of working.
asciilifeform: neither ffa nor any other software will do idjit any good. esp. if he insists on stuffing it into a 'smart'pnoje-cum-nsa-os & similar.
asciilifeform: this incidentally is why i regard jfw & co's proj. of 'sell trb kit to rich morons' as ill-conceived. ( if it were to succeed, will likely get the participants killed, moron will make inevitable coarse error of pilotage & blame the 'helper', whom else, mp types are biologically incapable of introspection and coming to terms with own intellectual limits in any other way )
asciilifeform: computing (and all fields peripheral to it) already suffers -- perhaps irrecoverably -- from the catastrophic effects of giving dimwit narcissists powerful tools and the illusion of understanding'em. rather like how earlier generation of literate folx gave same idiots the bomb.
ben_vulpes: buenos noches a tous
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: do you know "StJohn Piano" of edgecase.net?
gregorynyssa: asciilifeform: I guess some people find it hard to think abstractly, and need the GUI.
gregorynyssa: asciilifeform: even the concept of the hierarchical filesystem goes slightly over the head of some users.
ben_vulpes: pff ok buddy
ben_vulpes: that it's not hierarchical, over others
gregorynyssa: ben_vulpes: I liked the introductory article to V which you had written.
ben_vulpes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-06-28#1015442 << what has the scawwy mawwidge word have to do with either being boring or monogamous
snsabot: Logged on 2020-06-28 15:55:22 shinohai: Because life is too short for boring 'ol monogamy.
ben_vulpes: merci, monsieur gregorynyssa
gregorynyssa: the only VCS remotely similar to V is Fossil, which is written by Dr Richard Hipp, inventor of SQLite.
gregorynyssa: both are based on transparent, well-documented file-formats.
gregorynyssa: as opposed to being heavily implementation-defined, as with Git.
ben_vulpes: well if the fellow comes around again, i'm leaving this here for 'im: http://cascadianhacker.com/rsi-is-a-lifestyle-problem
ben_vulpes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-06-23#1015259 << this sounds amazing
snsabot: Logged on 2020-06-23 17:33:47 adlai: incidentally, one of the most interesting conversations that I ever overheard was between two young israelis who were speaking modern hebrew with american ebonic inflection!
asciilifeform: wb ben_vulpes
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-07-02#1015665 << he hung about in #t briefly, long ago
snsabot: Logged on 2020-07-02 23:23:28 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: do you know "StJohn Piano" of edgecase.net?
asciilifeform: !q seen-anywhere stjohn_piano_2
snsabot: stjohn_piano_2 last seen in #trilema on 2019-06-05 05:34:52: New article: http://edgecase.net/articles/the_value_of_software
ben_vulpes: way the hell upstack asciilifeform i have 2 axes more or less wired up; i'm blocked on coming up with a good mechanism to connect the pan stage servo to the pan stage itself, but aside from that things are coming along rather swimmingly
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: funnily enuff, so happens that i've also been tuning cnc gear..
ben_vulpes: bolted a "realsense" D435I to the tilt stage and wrote a pid controller last night, intended to plug the pid into error from facedetection today but mein herr the pianist trolled me into 3kw on ergonomics instead
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-07-02#1015677 << perhaps i'm one of very few folx who not suffers from this malady..
snsabot: Logged on 2020-07-02 23:34:26 ben_vulpes: well if the fellow comes around again, i'm leaving this here for 'im: http://cascadianhacker.com/rsi-is-a-lifestyle-problem
snsabot: Logged on 2020-06-18 16:43:55 asciilifeform: mats: it does seem to afflict folx who enter great heaps of text -- perhaps surprisingly, asciilifeform doesn't
ben_vulpes: briefly looked at the pretrained "mobilenet ssd" and found that it's only trained on some 80 labels, one of which is "pottedplant", so i put it down and did something simpler.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform my problems only set in after i set 30 fence posts myself without a hydraulic drill
ben_vulpes: all of my mistakes are all my own.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what has you back on the mill?
asciilifeform: laser, atm
ben_vulpes: what'll you be lasing?
asciilifeform: needed coupla flat acetal sheets ( rk+'eink' chasis )
asciilifeform: fence posts ?! built fort in patagonia, ben_vulpes ?
ben_vulpes: no, i'm a jew.
asciilifeform: in gaza strip..?
ben_vulpes: since when is being a skinflint about labor a strip activity
ben_vulpes: !q help
snsabot: ben_vulpes: my valid commands are: src, uptime, seen-anywhere, help, s, version, seen
asciilifeform drove posts for garden w/ ordinary 10kg sledge , ladt time had occasion to , no hydraulics
ben_vulpes: not even later? my we are living in trying times aren't we
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell spyked http://thetarpit.org/2020/a-cursory-look-at-the-infamous-trb-wedge-bug << neat stuff
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: we dun have the old luxuries, but folx do occasionally read log
ben_vulpes: my dear asciilifeform these were 4x4s going into concrete and i demanded a 2/3 sub/surface ratio
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: the luxuries we had, nobody else has to this day
asciilifeform: i thought one typically hammers it in, ~then~ pours concrete..
ben_vulpes: first one must establish a hole for the concrete
ben_vulpes: then lay a gravel bed, then pack the gravel (four feet down there), and only then can one rig the post and cast it
ben_vulpes: there's no hammering a wood post 4 feet into the dirt, get out of herre
asciilifeform: sounds moar like antitank hedgehog than what asciilifeform is accustomed to as 'fence'
ben_vulpes: i have nfi what else you would do; metal stakes and hog wire panels?
ben_vulpes: that's not a fence that's an eyesore
asciilifeform: is what ~erryone has over here in east usa.
ben_vulpes: and yes, that fence will stand until the pressure treat rots.