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(trilema) asciilifeform: i had nfi that hobbes had anyffin useful to say. but apparently did, and was actually right, that pump ended up trigger for 'need mega-funding' failure cascade leading to, arguably, today's 'eotvos' et al.
(trilema) asciilifeform: sorta how asciilifeform had 'the keys' in 2010 and had all the ducks lined up to run schwartz eotvos, and would have at least achieved some lulz if uncle al had not chickened
(trilema) asciilifeform: ( and, also recall, they ran uncle al's eotvos experiment... )
(trilema) asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they walk in and ask to replicate uncle al's eotvos? or how does it go
(trilema) asciilifeform: and fwiw the 1 serious open question i know of , that could be answered with costly machine -- is the al schwartz eotvos test. pretty low energy, at that.
(trilema) asciilifeform: d00d laid out how to do the eotvos thing. recipe still on his www last i saw.
(trilema) asciilifeform: sorta what i said to him about my 50k-usd eotvos tester variant.
(trilema) a111: Logged on 2014-07-27 19:05 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in 2010 i concocted a variant of the test that could be carried out for approx. 50k USD, from scratch. schwartz answered that, in his estimation, the test would work to spec, but results would not be accepted by the field unless carried out on one of the two existing eotvos balances. one - adelberger's, one - chicom.
(trilema) asciilifeform: the logic is that the result of 50k eotvos goes straight to /dev/null.
(trilema) asciilifeform: is the presence of the 2 eotvos balances a net positive? or would we actually have a handle on schwartz's result if everyone was STUCK with my $50k version of the experiment (calorimeter.)
(trilema) asciilifeform: consider how the eotvos thing went.
(trilema) asciilifeform: (though uncle al had a pretty solid suspicion that they built his eotvostron)
(trilema) ascii_butugychag: does mircea_popescu recall the eotvos thread ?
(trilema) ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: this was the eotvos thing
(trilema) asciilifeform: ask al schwartz about the univ. of beijing carrying out (yes) the eotvos trials.
(trilema) asciilifeform: basically he insisted that a negative result must come from one of the two eotvos torsion balances
(trilema) ascii_field: gabriel_laddel: if you're interested in the eotvos thing, absolutely must read the old threads here
(trilema) ascii_field: i did a good bit of supercomp heavy lifting for his eotvos thing, pro bono
(trilema) asciilifeform: (re: eotvos experiment)
(trilema) asciilifeform: the only place you can read his eotvos material is his site, which 'suffers' from '90s www design aesthetic and almost everyone spits on first sight
(trilema) asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: see eotvos thread. it isn't a matter of price tag.
(trilema) asciilifeform: (if anyone is unclear on why 'i'll bring in a few $b and then do physics with it' is a nonstarter, they must read the eotvos threads.)
(trilema) assbot: Logged on 31-08-2014 02:17:56; assbot: Logged on 27-07-2014 19:05:02; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in 2010 i concocted a variant of the test that could be carried out for approx. 50k USD, from scratch. schwartz answered that, in his estimation, the test would work to spec, but results would not be accepted by the field unless carried out on one of the two existing eotvos balances. one - adelberger's, one - chicom.
(trilema) assbot: Logged on 27-07-2014 19:05:02; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in 2010 i concocted a variant of the test that could be carried out for approx. 50k USD, from scratch. schwartz answered that, in his estimation, the test would work to spec, but results would not be accepted by the field unless carried out on one of the two existing eotvos balances. one - adelberger's, one - chicom.
(trilema) asciilifeform: decimation: we came up with a setup that didn't require eotvos balance
(trilema) asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in 2010 i concocted a variant of the test that could be carried out for approx. 50k USD, from scratch. schwartz answered that, in his estimation, the test would work to spec, but results would not be accepted by the field unless carried out on one of the two existing eotvos balances. one - adelberger's, one - chicom.
(trilema) asciilifeform was acquainted with one such '1%' - al schwartz. who has an eminently testable hypothesis re: parity violation, and spent a decade (& counting) trying to score 2 weeks on an eotvos rotor balance. while the charlatans build their $b colliders.
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