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BingoBoingo: !up devthedev
devthedev: I love this president
BingoBoingo: So did he really say learn English and go to the back of the line?
BingoBoingo: !up Blazedout419
BingoBoingo: !up Blazedout420
asciilifeform: is that why you flip them vertically << ideally they'd all be vertical. nothing to do with angle, you've the causality reversed.
decimation: because vertical real estate is more useful than horizontal?
asciilifeform: the array, naturally, is shaped a little like a titanic horizontal display (to match visual field of eyes)
asciilifeform: but you can't get the solid equivalent
asciilifeform: (not even for $maxint. where do you get bent display?)
asciilifeform: and i seriously don't get people who suggest 'use tv'. are they using computer with tv? if not, why not? and why eager to suggest to others.
decimation: tvs have terrible resolution
decimation: I use tv for computer display
decimation: but it's in the living room and is a media computer
assbot: Officers again make arrests at protest outside Ferguson police HQ : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1xYbipN )
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: TV has use cases
asciilifeform: not involving computer.
asciilifeform: or text
punkman: ;;google lg curved monitor
gribble: LG 34UC97-S: 34" Class 21:9 UltraWide™ WQHD IPS Curved LED ...: <http://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-34UC97-S-ultrawide-monitor>; LG 34UC97-S 34" UltraWide QHD Curved LED Backlit LCD Monitor: <http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1083446-REG/lg_34uc97_s_34_3440x1440_ips_curved.html>; LG 34UC97 34" Curved LCD Monitor - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcaktV1iiGk>
asciilifeform: yes, there was a time when we have 'commodore 64' or 'bk-0010' and tv out, and that was it.
devthedev: See everyone in a week
mircea_popescu: not since the z80 days anywya
BingoBoingo: devthedev: Where you headed, Cuba?
assbot: I'm taking pictures in some sweet places next week! Saturday- Ft. LauderdaleMonday- HaitiTuesday- JamaicaThursday- MexicoSunday- Miami
asciilifeform: punkman: if that thing came in a double-height variant i'd buy
assbot: Ferguson officer's lawyer, union official, say AP story on grand jury confidence was misleading : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1xU9oW4 )
asciilifeform: except i'd probably end up throwing it through a wall on account of vibrating pixels
BingoBoingo: devthedev: If you ever want practice killing people, Mexico is prolly the place to do it. Huge security issues, but they'll never mention it
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah most 'hdtv' 'monitors' use all kinds of downsampling/downconversion tricks
asciilifeform: afaik everything presently on the market, with exception of eizo's 'colour-edge' series, uses dithering.
asciilifeform: (vs. none whatsoever 6 yrs. ago!)
asciilifeform: iirc we spoke of this here at least once.
BingoBoingo: Plasma TV I think of considering this problem was acquired 8 years ago
asciilifeform: fuck dithering hard, with red hot poker.
asciilifeform can see the led blinkers on cars in traffic, which 'no one can see', it's a torment
BingoBoingo: Eh, these candles warming the room dither
asciilifeform: the pulse flicker thereof, rather
decimation: dithering works great if you want to suppress spurs on an adc
asciilifeform: works great for folks who have properly slow retina
BingoBoingo: There are reasons I drink.
asciilifeform has somewhat perverse senses. for example, 'amazon kindle' is fairly loud to him when flipping pages.
asciilifeform: (model 'dx' with the rev. 2 black chassis, if anyone wants to compare notes)
asciilifeform: inductor hiss.
decimation: I definite hear something when I flip mine but I think I have the smaller model
asciilifeform: aha so not only me!
BingoBoingo: !up Vexual
BingoBoingo: I think the efficent problem at the moment is that no one but foxconn makes anything anymore
decimation: inductor microphonics are the bane of anyone trying to make a very stable rf circuit
BingoBoingo: I listen to AM radio all of the time, but I'm still not sure I believe in stable RF circuits
asciilifeform: like 'stable' governments, or marriages, the stability spoken of here is comparative.
Vexual: I can see tailights flicker
asciilifeform: there we go.
asciilifeform not the only mutant!
assbot: xkcd: AI-Box Experiment ... ( http://bit.ly/1xYdihM )
Vexual: I also know when my favourite song is on the radio tho
BingoBoingo: Wait, are tail lights not supposed to flicker?
decimation: asciilifeform: have you ever had one of those occupational hearing tests?
Vexual: no, theyre not
asciilifeform: decimation: occupational, no, but did as a child. passed.
asciilifeform: afaik they're built to detect deaf folks, rather than insufficiently deaf
decimation: I've had a few as adult, and I found that I passed if I breathed through my mouth - breathing through my nose was too noisy
mats_cd03: yes, they suck. i am partially deaf due to too many explosions without earpro
BingoBoingo: What's next? The power led on the laptop isn't supposed to blink at F2#
mats_cd03: i can still hear the beeps ... of other participants, even. the test doesn't measure intensity afaik
mircea_popescu: <decimation> I've had a few as adult, and I found that I passed if I breathed through my mouth - breathing through my nose was too noisy <<< if breathing through your nose is noisy you should prolly have it fixed
decimation: yeah, actually I've been told I have a deviated septum
decimation: but the point is that apparently it sets a 'noise floor' for low lever signals
Vexual: do a beat box
Vexual: when ledtailights flicker, you can almost see which way the calbing runs
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Vexual: audi and toyota use different drivers
decimation: some cars in the us have a 'flicker' mechanism built into the tail lights which I find highly annoying
BingoBoingo: !up angles
Vexual: i like my flasher under the dash
Vexual: that way i've got a story ready for when i get pulled over
Vexual: "yeah I know it's borked..."
Vexual: 6v stuffs always blowing, it's the amplitude modulations, see?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52800 @ 0.00042835 = 22.6169 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: sir, this is a prime mover.
Vexual: ciao
Vexual: *crunch*
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7407 @ 0.00042831 = 3.1725 BTC [-]
Vexual: must be the voltage regulator
assbot: The GUI, the twerk and the most valuable resource pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1z0EHhr )
mircea_popescu: you get to guess the op.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: nurse's article: http://www.bards.ru/archives/part.php?id=15568 << obligatory. vysotsky's 'doctor reanimator.'
asciilifeform: not 1 in 10 has a known english
decimation: Liberté, égalité, fraternité!
mircea_popescu: !up MykelSIlver
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'Girl under a train - they sometimes fumble, / She might cry hysterically, or no; / You can hear Reanimator mumble: / 'Please give up your ghost, my dearest, go!' / Lifetime as a cripple? Who will feed you? / Even could I do a bloody thing? / Tell me, dearest, who you think will need you, / Without legs, and without everything?' << approx. partial transl.
mircea_popescu: who fumbles and what's that mean ?
mircea_popescu: like, derpy chick falls by accident ?
asciilifeform: or 'accident'
asciilifeform might write a real translation if he were awake, sober, and anyone gave half a damn
mircea_popescu: actually 4 way amputee chicks is a shiockingly large fetish
asciilifeform: 4 way plus their 'everything's?
asciilifeform: cock-arms ?
asciilifeform: (or just plain thalidomide ? experts, chime in)
mircea_popescu: that's the flipper arms thalidomide brought about
asciilifeform: aha, guessed as much
mircea_popescu: in other news, the chan4chan webiste donation address ? https://blockchain.info/address/1KaHdHYgYUDUYuMYCXLu83gXuniZMiSMhb
assbot: Bitcoin Address 1KaHdHYgYUDUYuMYCXLu83gXuniZMiSMhb ... ( http://bit.ly/1AqYTNJ )
mircea_popescu: collected 0.101 btc in its lifetime. all of which in 2013.
assbot: Bundle 18xnKTfE | #bitcoin-assets deed registry ... ( http://bit.ly/1uhyGso )
assbot: US Department of Justice: Kim Dotcom can't challenge asset forfiture | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1xIMNyb )
assbot: Rapper Tiny Doo will go to trial, judge decides - 10News.com KGTV ABC10 San Diego ... ( http://bit.ly/1z1e6kk )
mircea_popescu: "Though Duncan hasn't been tied to the shootings, prosecutors argued that he benefited from the shootings because his gang gained in status, allowing him to sell more albums."
mircea_popescu: this is so fucking out there....
mircea_popescu: here's a thought : preet bharara benefited from the shootings, because HIS gang gained in status, allowing him to sell more whatever the fucks he's selling.
mircea_popescu: he should be in jail with duncan.
mircea_popescu: "We're not just talking about a CD of anything, of love songs. We're talking about a CD (cover) … there is a revolver with bullets," said Deputy District Attorney Anthony Campagna.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28003 @ 0.00041998 = 11.7607 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: in other news, qntra seems to look pretty good : http://browsershots.org/http://qntra.net/
assbot: Page not found | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1xINHLd )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53575 @ 0.000422 = 22.6087 BTC [+]
cazalla: mircea_popescu, fixed typo so dw BingoBoingo
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26050 @ 0.00042813 = 11.1528 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35123 @ 0.00042813 = 15.0372 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53750 @ 0.00041992 = 22.5707 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20904 @ 0.00043091 = 9.0077 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29800 @ 0.00041861 = 12.4746 BTC [-]
assbot: Ben Bernanke & Mervyn King Share Their Thoughts On Bitcoin | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1vvO9MF )
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.09700427 = 1.3581 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00041451 = 6.2591 BTC [-]
assbot: X.EUR November 20th 2014 statement | fr.anco.is ... ( http://bit.ly/1yyosYT )
davout: pankkake disappeared, and with him penguirker :/
jurov: there's supposed to be scoopbot
jurov: ;;seens scoopbot
gribble: Error: "seens" is not a valid command.
jurov: ;;seen scoopbot
gribble: scoopbot was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 0 days, 8 hours, 7 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <scoopbot> New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2014/11/isis-introduces-coins/
jurov: :/
BingoBoingo: scoopbot has growing pains
jurov: did he too broke his penis or what?
BingoBoingo: Maybe?
davout: i wonder if the broken cock dude's friends will visit him in the hospital and write their names on his cast
BingoBoingo: There's always the chance
BingoBoingo: !up berndj
jurov: we all should visit him. so that he knows we are really serious
jurov: that we aren't making fun of him
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 482 @ 0.00215408 = 1.0383 BTC [-] {7}
mats_cd03: #b-a trip? i'll rent a van.
mats_cd03: we can go to the beach, do a pub crawl, discuss world domination, scribble on a man's dong cast... it'll be great
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44650 @ 0.0004336 = 19.3602 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33604 @ 0.00043438 = 14.5969 BTC [+] {2}
xanthyos: hello kids. i'm on drugs.
xanthyos: still not allowed to bathe
BingoBoingo: Probably best to follow those instruction
davout: "hello kids. i'm on drugs." <<< saying hi like a boss
xanthyos: the one positive aspect of having a broken penis is having an excuse to show it to people on webcam in a non-perverted medical way. so they can all see how big i am
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xanthyos: and i can get away with that without bragging
ben_vulpes: i had a nightmare about cracking my cock
TomServo: Well I'm still chuckling about you flapping your hands, if its any consolation.
xanthyos: really ben
xanthyos: ben_vulpes: i got into your subconscious?
asciilifeform waits for one of you folks to write an updated 'the nutcracker' opera
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xanthyos: or a sequel
xanthyos: thankfully my testicles are still large and in charge
xanthyos: free dna for girls!
xanthyos: queue up
xanthyos: about to buy
xanthyos: i have 1.24 btc currently and i'm going to buy .76 to push me to 2.0
xanthyos: coinbase ~356ish
xanthyos: yes i'm drugged up, i hope my judgment isn't impaired
xanthyos: normally too afraid to buy
assbot: Following publication of legal act on the implementation of the ABS purch. programme, the Eurosystem has started the purchases on 21/11/2014
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: The Netherlands Has Repatriated 122.5t Gold From US ... ( http://bit.ly/11CIdmX )
asciilifeform: why nl gets to and de not ?
asciilifeform not expert
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31300 @ 0.00044201 = 13.8349 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: and did it even happen.
asciilifeform wasn't there, didn't move it
TomServo: Article claims de will be, over 8 years
assbot: Logged on 17-02-2014 20:07:33; asciilifeform: stalin, during famous party plenum, re: spanish civil war gold:
assbot: Logged on 17-02-2014 20:07:46; asciilifeform: 'these fellows won't see it again like they won't see their ears [without mirror].]
xanthyos: Success! Your purchase completed successfully.
xanthyos: 0.76 BTC will arrive in your My Wallet account on Friday Nov 28, 2014.
xanthyos: coinbase purchases are better for btc than otc because they are made on low volume exchanges and are more likely to spike the price
xanthyos: i just hope i'm not a sucker, i was a bitcoin denier for years until i got backdoored into it through my interest in getting around the internet poker ban
xanthyos: i am so high you guys
xanthyos: i shoudlnt' be shopping
xanthyos: BingoBoingo: what store is your local wamart, i'm buying you some christmas mittens
xanthyos: walmart*
BingoBoingo: xanthyos: You don't need to worry about that.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what about it ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wondered if actually 'news' or smoke.
mircea_popescu: well, the embargo on russia is working
mircea_popescu: on the eu.
mircea_popescu: no but im serious.
asciilifeform knows. or at least, observes ru press gloating
mircea_popescu: the ru press aside, the english fuckwits are fucking incredible.
mircea_popescu: all autumn they spent in this "o noes, bombama put teh hurts on putin!111"
mircea_popescu: which, you know, back when putin was merely pissing in the guy's mouth at public meetings, hey, i guess it's what people do, make this type of false claims.
mircea_popescu: sports press fulla it, especially if you count wrestling as a sport.
mircea_popescu: but as soon as fucking novemver rolled around, it's not even winter yet, the eu is already soft like the average penis of the average european
mircea_popescu: them being on average 55 yo or some shit
mircea_popescu: and yet, nobody, and i mean NOBODY comes out with the fucking obvious.
asciilifeform: then, as in all cases, 'the obvious' will have to eat them for lunch.
mircea_popescu: what is wrong with these people! give them some technology award, this cultish idiocy is unheard of.
mircea_popescu: you'd expect you know, as much as a "hey, maybe this embargo thing is actually fucking eu more than ru"
mircea_popescu: how, it boggles the mind. how is this not even entertained.
mircea_popescu: i mean these are all idiots with pretenses. they wear fucking suits and ties.
mircea_popescu: they keep supposed wives, have what they refer to as their children.
mircea_popescu: why even bother with all the pretense ? if you're going to do THIS sort of thing, why even bother dress ? eat fucking roadkill, go around screaming and tossing garbage, what fucking difference does it make.
punkman: girl worked hotel reception in the summer, all the russians were calling in saying they needed proof vacation was booked before embargo otherwise they weren't allowed to get on plane.
mircea_popescu: i suppose what im saying, in the end, is that i absolutely don't see any connection between the noises coming out of europe currently and the european tradition.
mircea_popescu: might as well be the greater congo masquerading as europe.
mircea_popescu: punkman duh.
mircea_popescu: the eu just got proclaimed illegitimate wholesale o.O
mats_cd03: xanthyos: might wanna hold off in the event of waterfall following nov 28
punkman: mats_cd03: black friday?
mats_cd03: yeah.
mircea_popescu: fwiw the november thing is mostly bull, esp in btc.
mircea_popescu: buncha redditors get excited, make donations of fiddy picocents
punkman: always found these shops curious, trying to sell furs in a place that doesn't get cold http://www.vossfurs.com/media/1087/Hersonissos1.jpg
mircea_popescu: davout: i wonder if the broken cock dude's friends will visit him in the hospital and write their names on his cast <<< well, mebbe their gfs.
mircea_popescu: punkman it's a luxury thing tho.
mircea_popescu: anyway, very nicely done shop.
punkman: there's a ton of these shops, wonder how many went under this year
assbot: Half Naked Winnie The Pooh Banned From Playground - Around the World News - Croatian Times Online News - English Newspaper ... ( http://bit.ly/1vwEu8D )
BingoBoingo: One official is heard saying: "It doesn’t wear underpants because it doesn’t have a sex. It’s a hermaphrodite."
punkman: lol
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: why nl gets to and de not ? <<< because nl is not a fucking ally, and was not defeated in ww2.
BingoBoingo: She said: "This is very disturbing but can you imagine! The author was over 60 and cut his [Pooh's] testicles off with a razor blade because he had a problem with his identity."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34700 @ 0.00044479 = 15.4342 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nl is nato colony however
mircea_popescu: apparently not.
assbot: NATO Map Game ... ( http://bit.ly/1r5kin3 )
asciilifeform: somebody should 'helpfully' replace it with 'risk'
assbot: NATO - News: Largest ever NATO cyber defence exercise gets underway, 18-Nov.-2014 ... ( http://bit.ly/1r5kDGu )
asciilifeform: whether nl is colony, they will know when they drill the bars, assuming they do.
asciilifeform: and assuming bars moved
mircea_popescu: bars moved, an' im sure they're drilling.
assbot: Klikki Oy - WordPress 3 Persistent Script Injection ... ( http://bit.ly/1r5mQS5 )
punkman: they still can't sanitize HTML?
punkman: ffs
punkman: but not to worry! we can now push code to your WP installation at will!
mircea_popescu: heh. also 3.x
BingoBoingo: Is qntra a 500 internal server error for anyone else?
assbot: 404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1p6h5rM )
punkman: that redirected me to http://go.away/
punkman: homepage worked though
TomServo: both working here
xanthyos: dns fail
xanthyos: not 404
mircea_popescu: as per usual, i see all fine ?
BingoBoingo: http://dpaste.com/1TR5XZ9 << Sometimes it works, other times this
assbot: dpaste: 1TR5XZ9 ... ( http://bit.ly/1p6ileh )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well if nothing else that advisory thing is useful because it explais how to turn off the idiotic "html texturizing" wp been doing
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo are you actually seeing it with any sort of frequency ? or was transient ?
BingoBoingo: It happened a few times all right after making the latest post
mircea_popescu: well say if you see more.
BingoBoingo: Will do
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53300 @ 0.00044624 = 23.7846 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 356.52, Best ask: 356.77, Bid-ask spread: 0.25000, Last trade: 357.26, 24 hour volume: 15754.98265088, 24 hour low: 342.05, 24 hour high: 362.0, 24 hour vwap: 352.203846856
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HASH] 1862 @ 0.00080029 = 1.4901 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60650 @ 0.00045087 = 27.3453 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: http://pastebin.com/ZNvYKUiC << mega-lol from #b-wizzards
assbot: megalol - Pastebin.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1tnr7Ak )
asciilifeform: ^ that channel appears to be besieged by obnoxious crackpots, and they're starting to talk of #b-a-esque voice controls
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well if you're gonna copy something, gotta copy the lot neh ?
asciilifeform: leads to the question of - why the schism
asciilifeform doesn't know the story
mircea_popescu: the idiots preexisted. we're the new thing here.
mircea_popescu: the skism is unavoidable : they don't fit here, and know they don't. they can't admit they're idiots, and so they';re stuck
mircea_popescu: copying the voice or w/e.
asciilifeform: 'wizards' is recent, but does contain several known hooligans, yes
mircea_popescu: i thought that's what you were asking about.
asciilifeform has been reading it, on and off, because there are two or three thinking folks in there who occasionally discuss maths/crypto
asciilifeform wondered why there, and not here
asciilifeform: kanzure, fluffypony, a few others i think
asciilifeform: *or rather, why they do it there vs here
mircea_popescu: ;;seen kanzure
gribble: kanzure was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 weeks, 6 days, 22 hours, 14 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <kanzure> did he claim that his property rights were violated, or that the owner's property rights were violated?
mircea_popescu: mebbe it's context dependant.
BingoBoingo: !up Stocker
Stocker: thk
BingoBoingo: So what brings you around these parts?
mircea_popescu: who're you Stocker ?
Stocker: trader and you
mircea_popescu: same i guess.
rithm: i'm a part-time Stalker
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kanzure: asciilifeform: because i don't want to setup a pgp user agent with my irc client
assbot: Dropbox - zn_0x4 ... ( http://bit.ly/1uOb4ky )
assbot: 404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1uObqr7 )
TomServo: pretty cool. Anybody read his stuff?
BingoBoingo: I haven't
BingoBoingo: Dunno who he is
asciilifeform: kanzure: afaik most of us here use hand-cranked pgp
TomServo: Well the name in the qntra post links to: http://www.amazon.com/Philip-Mullan/e/B00IC5R90Y/
assbot: Amazon.com: Philip Mullan: Books, Biography, Blog, Audiobooks, Kindle ... ( http://bit.ly/1uObSFO )
assbot: DGC Founder Discusses His New Book, The Digital Currency Challenge | DGC ... ( http://bit.ly/1uObSFS )
TomServo: Assuming it's the same dude? idk.
asciilifeform: kanzure: (no irc client plugins or anything of the kind)
punkman: he used to run that DGC magazine
assbot: SilentVault launches aiming to 'silence the blockchain' - DGC | DGC ... ( http://bit.ly/1uOcb3B )
kanzure: asciilifeform: that sounds awful
kanzure: i'm not gonna sit around like a jackass sending signed messages to gribble all the time
asciilifeform: kanzure: it takes me all of 5 minutes to auth, and i do it every other week or so (when isp disconnects for a spell)
TomServo: it's really not a big deal.
kanzure: 5 minutes to auth?
kanzure: you have a very high tolerance
asciilifeform: 5 minutes max
asciilifeform: most of it spent with [censored] rather than on anything particular to 'gribble'
asciilifeform: any reasonable person keeps his key [censored] in [censored]
mircea_popescu: kanzure generally the way i use it is hit a curl http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452|gpg and feed it my pw
assbot: 404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1oY7SBR )
mircea_popescu: then paste the result. it's maybe 30 seconds. but yeah, i guess, a hassle.
mircea_popescu: !up Molt
asciilifeform: thing is, a fellow who doesn't 'believe in' or like pgp, and doesn't care for the guarantees proper use provides, can automate up to a hundred percent of the process
asciilifeform: but he should not be surprised later.
mircea_popescu: anyway, how did that theory go, it's a balancing act.
mircea_popescu: but there's your answer at any rate : voice model chills speech. this includes some speech you didn't apparently want chilled.
asciilifeform: hell, some apparently clever folks (taleb?) can't even be bothered to dredge up a computer, or figure out 'irc' - so, no amount of free voice will help.
punkman wonders how many people in the WoT use airgapped gpg to auth
asciilifeform: punkman: generally there is very little to be gained by telling other people anything re: where and how you keep your key.
assbot: The wisdom of crowds. Apparently, it mostly depends on the crowds in question. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1uOcHOW )
BingoBoingo: Especially don't tell people where you keep your private key if it is derived from using an Iris scanner on your butthole
asciilifeform: 'what two men know - the sow knows'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform some amount of free voice will help some cases. no amount will help all cases.
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assbot: The wisdom of crowds. Apparently, it mostly depends on the crowds in question. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1uOcWd1 )
mircea_popescu: hm where's that discussion re labs and measurements and how things get accepted
asciilifeform: !s eotvos
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2014 02:17:56; assbot: Logged on 27-07-2014 19:05:02; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in 2010 i concocted a variant of the test that could be carried out for approx. 50k USD, from scratch. schwartz answered that, in his estimation, the test would work to spec, but results would not be accepted by the field unless carried out on one of the two existing eotvos balances. one - adelberger's, one - chicom.
asciilifeform: ^ thread re: 'provenance'
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asciilifeform: the apple et. al. 'born again in crypto' thing is cheap psyop.
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rithm: BingoBoingo possible run-on sentence: It's beautiful this thing barely old enough to squirm managing to commit forward locomotion under its own power
rithm: not sure if one comma or two
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asciilifeform: translation: 'please fear usb disks, not winblows, winblows is yer friend'
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu ya that article was embarassingly shitty
asciilifeform: incidentally, the one type of winblows 0day that will remain in inexhaustible supply for so long as microshit remains a thing, is the usb drive 0day.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a very easy sell.
asciilifeform: winblows file system handlers are porous on personal orders of lizard hitler.
pete_dushenski: lessons learned 1) speak to what you know, 2) don't say "yes" to everything just because, 3) if you're going to do something, do it well, 4) have qntra articles vetted before publishing, 5) never quote wikipedia, duh.
BingoBoingo: My bad on hitting the publish button
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo all good. you assumed that everything i touch is gold. but alas. a human is i and a human is you.
asciilifeform: incidentally, there are folks who reverse microshit's patches for a living.
asciilifeform: one day they will talk.
asciilifeform: (what will we hear, when they do? approximately, what everyone already knew.)
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asciilifeform: which is to say, the exact mechanism whereby the supply of 0day is in fact inexhaustible
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asciilifeform: usg cycle goes approximately: 1) produce anal orifice (entirely plausibly-deniable bugpharms like microshit, with pedigrees going back into the sands of time, and impossibility of attribution or meaningful study - easy)
asciilifeform: 2) exploit for a spell
asciilifeform: 3) exploit is discovered by humans and put to use by wild men
pete_dushenski: 4) party?
asciilifeform: 4) exploit is patched, patch introduces more of the substance seen in step (1) (plausibly-deniable spaghetti that contains seeds of next iteration of cycle)
pete_dushenski: o that's step 5
asciilifeform: 5) patch is reversed by folks paid or otherwise happy to carry out this duty, and go to step 2.
asciilifeform: microshit periodically goes to step 1, on release cycle (new winblows and 'service packs')
undata: asciilifeform: certainly there are intentional back-doors, but I'm not going to give every steaming pile of microshit that excuse
asciilifeform: undata: the entire architecture (soft & hard stack) is a meta-backdoor
asciilifeform: actual, engineered back doors are seldom necessary
undata: haha, yes
asciilifeform: and when produced, are typically built to be physically indistinguishable from the 'natural' kind.
asciilifeform: the only apparent exception is pki, which 'everyone' seems to know is a master key anal orifice of the first order, wherever it chances to appear, and yet virtually no one objects
asciilifeform: on account of 'but they wouldn't dare'
asciilifeform: (when 'they' - dare, e.g., stuxnet, somehow it goes 'down the memory hole' and magicked into 'never happened you consp1r4cy nutter')
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i kept waiting, in your article, for the link to the canonical classic on the subject ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/924795/posts )
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pete_dushenski: asciilifeform ah! my canon needed some fleshing out. ty!
pete_dushenski: i'll see if i can't find a place for that
asciilifeform: read it first, perhaps you'll disagree
pete_dushenski: myes. most definitely
pete_dushenski: so far so good..
asciilifeform: in other news,
asciilifeform: (repost, nm)
asciilifeform not awake apparently
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undata: asciilifeform: the characters in those posters have an almost minstrel quality
jurov: lol ironically i did puncture myself once with pitchfork
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jurov: ne xodi po rybe !!11 :D
asciilifeform: some of these could work well with new text.
jurov: smotri pod nogi << da!
jurov: Hello Sir When You Gonna Message At-Lest Tell Me Sir What's Going On Are You Fixing My Bugs Or Not Are You Seeing My Bugs Or Not Do You Have Any Problem With My Bugs ? Why Are You Behave Like That Sir Why Are You Ignoring Peoples This Is Not Well Behavior Sir Please Respect Our Work Ok Cause It Was Really Hard Work Which I Had Done And You Again Didn't Send Me Message ?/???
jurov: ^ copied some text about insecure cookies from wikipedia previously
jurov: dud tries hard to get some "bug bounty"
jurov: *dude
jurov: i'll prolly reply "yes, bugs are fine, they eat every day and laid some eggs"
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xanthyos: god is teasing me, the same way he teased jesus
xanthyos: no one's supposed to struggle this much in life
xanthyos: pick an ailment god
BingoBoingo: Well, that's what you get for doing a persian penis trick
xanthyos: pick one and stick with it you fickle fuck
ben_vulpes: what's your cross today, xanthyos ?
BingoBoingo: Healing is never painless
xanthyos: i grew up watching saved by the bell. zack morris never had these problems.
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mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski BingoBoingo i like how positive you two are tho.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform 1/2/3/4 it seems quite probable that's exactly how this particular "engineering for excellence" thing works.
mircea_popescu: "Finally, if you add the horrifying spread of AIDS into the equation, anyone born in sub-Saharan Africa this century will be lucky to reach age forty." ahem.
mircea_popescu: quite a different story on life expectancy.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this gaffe is pestilentially ubiquitous
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i suspect he might mean it correctly.
asciilifeform: possible.
mircea_popescu: ANYONE. is lucky. to make it past 40.
mircea_popescu: Two friends died from stepping on landmines while on Army duty in Namibia. Three died in horrific car accidents (and lest one thinks that this is not confined to Africa, one was caused by a kudu flying through a windshield and impaling the guy through the chest with its hoof--not your everyday traffic accident in, say, Florida).
mircea_popescu: african guy never been to canada.
pete_dushenski: lol yup. a moose will do the same thing
pete_dushenski: not uncommon either
mircea_popescu: anyway, the "casual attitude to life and death" he discusses is in no way typically african.
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mircea_popescu: it's just typical of actual people, as neatly opposed to dickles otakus or w/e populate teh us.
asciilifeform: not uniquely african, no. all orcs.
mircea_popescu: all men.
asciilifeform: !s orcs humans
asciilifeform: (can replace with whatever names one prefers, so long as remembering that 'orc' regards 'human' as effete nithling, and 'human' regards 'orc' as a filthy shaved ape.)
mircea_popescu: lemme make the argument here.
mircea_popescu: your own life is not actually within your control. valuing something outside of your control is logically broken, and that basis is enough for any ulterior brokenness to be itnroduced.
asciilifeform: ^ not a 'virginal' poster, if anyone is confused
mircea_popescu: lol rabbits
jurov: orcs shave? TIL
jurov: soo gay
asciilifeform: approximately: 'bravely the railman / drunkenly struts / if he's run over / he'll show you some guts!' - 'comrade, don't fear death!'
mircea_popescu: lettuce see there. boldly
mircea_popescu: mnah, safely along the tracks
mircea_popescu: i guess you're faster than me
asciilifeform: looser.
mircea_popescu: "In my lifetime, the following tragedies have occurred, causing untold millions of deaths: famine in Biafra"
mircea_popescu: i remember this. when i was like 6 old women around me were "omg, you look like you're from biafra! eat something!"
jurov: i was quite a brat: "you don't want to eat this? think of starving children in africa, they'd like this" "well, so send it to them"
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mircea_popescu: see jurov, and now god gave them aids for your sins.
mircea_popescu: you shoulda just ate the damned peas!
mircea_popescu: Among old Africa hands, we have a saying, usually accompanied by a shrug: "Africa wins again." This is usually said after an incident such as: a beloved missionary is butchered by his congregation, for no apparent reason.
jurov: lol wins again... a brazil joke came to mind:
jurov: Brazil is the country of future. And forever shall be.
mircea_popescu: 17 countries saw a decline in real per capita GNP between 1970 and 1999, despite receiving well over $100 billion in World Bank assistance
pete_dushenski: i'm off, have a lovely evening b-a!
mircea_popescu: well, in fairness part of this may be that the african gdp is sinking in realer terms. if same were applied, the us sunk since the 80s something fiercer
mircea_popescu: 3/4 or some shit
asciilifeform: more height, more splat.
mircea_popescu: The result of decades of "foreign aid" has resulted in a continental infrastructure which, if one excludes South Africa, couldn't support Pittsburgh.
mircea_popescu: this is very unfair. i have personally used the egyptian trains, cairo to luxor
mircea_popescu: first class had better service than anywhere i've ever been, including switzerland
mircea_popescu: complete with private gay butler, in white gloves.
asciilifeform: afaik egypt is africa solely in geographic sense.
jurov: if they exclude maghreb, too.. but nairobi seems to have decnt infra, too
mircea_popescu: well you know, without this without that... basically you're what, talking of "african americans" ?
asciilifeform not expert on africa, does not know how much of the piece is 'reversed stupidity'
mircea_popescu: other than being an european in the "mare nostrum" sense of that concept, me either.
asciilifeform: perhaps the chicoms, in a decade or three, will share an honest picture of that continent.
asciilifeform: once they're done terraforming it.
mircea_popescu: yeah seems the inescapble fate of the black race, extermination at the hands of the yellow.
mircea_popescu: at least whitey TRANSPORTED them, ya know ?
mircea_popescu: "If a cure for AIDS was found tomorrow, and offered to every African nation free of charge, the growth of the disease would scarcely be checked, let alone reversed." i ca see this.
mircea_popescu: amusingly, what the african activists willing to speak plainly say sounds a whole fuckload of a lot just like what the paternalist southern lobby was saying in the us, early 1800s.
asciilifeform: elementary. consider simple vitamin deficiencies. easy pill - no difference.
asciilifeform: and they aren't even infectious.
mircea_popescu: what do you mean ?
mircea_popescu: i just treated girly anemia with succinate
asciilifeform: e.g., pellagra.
mircea_popescu: oh you mean in africa
mircea_popescu: somehow i deduced you mean pills just don't work in principle somehow
mircea_popescu: Even worse would be to think that the simplicity of Africa holds some kind of answers for Western society: remember "It Takes A Village"? Trust me on this: there is not one thing that Africa can give the West which hasn't been tried before and failed, not one thing that isn't a step backwards, and not one thing which is worse than, or that contradicts, what we have already.
asciilifeform: there's typo in there, i think
mircea_popescu: this is actually a general point. i recall a few decades ago bored stupid californian housewifes and ex actresses went all crazy about how india is going to be teh great cure
mircea_popescu: fizzled as one'd expect. there's a reason india was a colonial empire and not vice-versa.
asciilifeform: 'isn't worse'
mircea_popescu: i guess ya
asciilifeform: 'Hindus enjoy 36 crores of gods - that's 360 million, or more. None of them offered a Sanscrit pre-publication proof of Classical Electrodynamics by Jackson or volunteered Novocain.' -- al schwartz
mircea_popescu: anyway, lulzfest in comments, #5 is where i stopped.
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nubbins`: !up theotcguy
OneNomos: ty nubbins`, lurking for now
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nubbins`: !up twizt
twizt: random voice outs? lol
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mircea_popescu: happens all teh time.
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mats_cd03: what's with the weights on these bets?
kakobrekla: they go to 1?
mats_cd03: im seeing 0 weight yes and no for both
kakobrekla: yeah wait a block
kakobrekla: or refresh
kakobrekla: it happened
mats_cd03: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 2 minutes and 34 seconds
kakobrekla: sez on bottom of page
kakobrekla: Last block: 2 minutes ago (331060)
mats_cd03: they're displaying now, i didn't know that happened with new bets
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decimation: "The now-retired NSA official, a longtime code-breaker who rose to top management, had just learned in 2009 about the top secret program that was created shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. ... “An individual did bring us these questions, and he had some great points,” Alexander told the AP. “I asked the technical folks, including him, to look at it,”"
decimation: Alexander seems to be a master at deflecting blame
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thestringpuller: "The idea that taxes drive the value of money.known as chartalism.goes back at least as far as German economist Georg Friedrich Knapp.s 1905 book .The State Theory of Money."
thestringpuller: laffs for mircea_popescu *
mircea_popescu: mebbe thiel should stick to what he knows
mircea_popescu: whatever that is.
decimation: he knows how to please those who please the state
decimation: he knows how to please those who please the state
mircea_popescu: a right. mkay.
thestringpuller: sounds like a definition of a prostitute.
assbot: The wisdom of crowds. Apparently, it mostly depends on the crowds in question. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1BWs391 )
mircea_popescu: i feel unequal to the task.
asciilifeform: trilema no loady
mircea_popescu: eh wtfd.
mircea_popescu: !up kdomanski
decimation: heh yeah I read that. to be honest, I'm not sure the existing init system is worthy of much praise
mircea_popescu: decimation i can see that point.
decimation: but systemd is worse, in the sense that it adds a layer of obfuscation
mircea_popescu: exactly.
mircea_popescu: just because your old clunker is rusty doesn't mean you should add a bamboo patio on the roof.
decimation: now, it does give some functionality in exchange - faster boot times, 'carefully managed' boot process, etc
asciilifeform: actually we have here a rare case of danger from an unwillingness to move from the technological into the political gear of thought.
mircea_popescu: decimation yes, exactly what monoturdism usually promises.
mircea_popescu: then fails to deliver.
mircea_popescu: you familiar with the "giant stool" approach to economics ?
decimation: nope, what does that mean?
asciilifeform: poettering and his followers have demonstrated that they cannot be trusted to build a non-diabolical doorknob, much less init system
mircea_popescu: think of a supermarket as if it were a giant, walking the land of midgets.
mircea_popescu: should it find a nice place to sit for a while, such as a neighbourhood, it will be fine for as long as it sits, and when that's done can walk away
mircea_popescu: the stool he sat on, however, will never recover from having been sat upon.
decimation: in the sense that the midgets were all slain
mircea_popescu: ye, the people that left in exasperation at all the sprawl won't come back.
mircea_popescu: the shops that were closed by its competition won't return
mircea_popescu: soon enough you turned greenwich village into detroit.
mircea_popescu: now, this is a general economic principle, and it applies jut as well to monolithic coding approaches.
mircea_popescu: at first they promise "jobs for everyone and cheapoer prices"
mircea_popescu: then they don't deliver
mircea_popescu: then they leave.
mircea_popescu: compare ms-dos, still to this day accepted here as a paragon of programming,
mircea_popescu: with microsoft windows.
decimation: the window of economic possibility is narrowed
mircea_popescu: so, yes, "faster boot times". a more irrelevant metric could scarcely be devised.
mircea_popescu: how about "my uptime is longer than poettering's coding experience". what bootup "?
decimation: now the question is, are the economic possibilities of the midgets really narrowed, or do they just perceive that they are?
mircea_popescu: they are really narrowed. what happens there is treason. treason never works politically.
mircea_popescu: specifically, some midgets betray some other midgets, which they need to survive.
mircea_popescu: those latter midgets leave
mircea_popescu: and the former can't live.
mircea_popescu: the best case study for this in my view is romania in the 30s. idiot, indolent romanians allowed the worst among them (iron guard, dubious local fascist wannabe) to assassinate the best romanian that then lived, one duca.
mircea_popescu: without him, romania spent half a century in the warsaw shitter. with him, it'd have probably been greece instead.
decimation: this idea could also explain why debt-funding (usg bank style) is ruinous compared to capital-funding in the long run
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decimation: at any rate, asciilifeform makes a good point, the main ding against systemd is that its main author has written several well-known turds, thus the fruit of the tree
mircea_popescu: it's that "first they came for x but i said nothing" thing, exactly. it's not in any sense a novel or a marginal idea.
asciilifeform: decimation: no.
mircea_popescu: and it goes right into the extraction economy discussion. you familiar with that one ?
asciilifeform: decimation: not simply 'known turds,' but the -behaviour- of him & followers.
decimation: I don't follow the extraction economy comment
decimation: asciilifeform: the 'join or die' mentality?
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mircea_popescu: yeah, she sounds just like a college chick.
mats_cd03: i was tickled by the chick flipping through a picture book
decimation: "her verizon internet cd won't load on ubuntu"
mircea_popescu: legit complaint.
decimation: her problem is that she is a tiny, aimless midget in a world where massive giants are wondering, and they get 'roided daily with debt
mircea_popescu: basically, her problem is that the people who can think have decided lying to her is okay.
mircea_popescu: and certainly better than hurting her.
mircea_popescu: it's a pov. i don't happen to subscribe to it is all.
decimation: yeah, it is the exact opposite of that german education circa 1880 that we discussed earlier
mircea_popescu: "I also have no doubt that Poettering has received such attacks. Unfortunately, that comes with being a public figure on today's Internet. I myself have gotten death threats serious enough that I've turned them over to the FBI"
mircea_popescu: somehow the quality of the assholes in question never comes before the debate.
mircea_popescu: it's not that poettering gets pissed on wherever he goes because he in point of fact is a poitless, middlesome imbecile.
mircea_popescu: oh, no. it's because the internet is bad. because when you get negative feedback, you gotta blame the feedback.
decimation: that suddenly makes me sorry for fbi agents. they are essentially at the bottom of a gigantic public suggestion box/toilet
mircea_popescu: anyway. the right way has to be defended.
mircea_popescu: it's not just that systemd is a piece of shit.
mircea_popescu: it's that poettering personally is a malignancy, that what he says is poisonous, not just for the free world but individually for people that are intellectually mature,
asciilifeform: that's sorta what i was trying to explain
mircea_popescu: and that the groups he tends to attract and promote are nothing short of malicious.
mircea_popescu: that he dares to spin this entire web where "he puts the blame" on linus is nothing short of outrageous.
mircea_popescu: any cat may look at the king. sure. no cat may file a suit against the crown.
decimation: so, this girl should have been told "You are not smart enough to become a scholar, but you have the material needed to become an excellent wife - learn to make non-lashable cooking, darn socks, and be feminine"
decimation: the receiving fbi agent should have had the same to say to poettering
mircea_popescu: problem is, the derps in the studio should have a) been repressed enough that they never dared think of speaking in front of the camera, let alone be allowed to do it
mircea_popescu: and b) be told the exact same thing.
mats_cd03: b-but that's sexist
mircea_popescu: stupidity is genderless.
mircea_popescu: decimation r fbi agents. they are essentially at the bottom of a gigantic public suggestion box/toilet << check this shit out!
mircea_popescu: !s gestapo
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decimation: yeah I think I mentioned about how the gestapo used the same effect to 'terrorize' the population
mircea_popescu: not even a matter of going that far.
mircea_popescu: my point is, in a socialist system, be it us-socialist or national-socialist or soviet-socialist or anything it may be
mircea_popescu: the supposed fbi/gru/gestapo/etc is simply a toilet box for the public idiocy.
mircea_popescu: this is a very visible symptom of the problem of well metastasized socialism : a general sense of entitlement in the crowd of idiots. an unwarranted expectation of efficiency on their part.
mircea_popescu: the pernicious idea that they matter and can do things. etc.
mircea_popescu: in short, what do we observe right before a kinetic crash ? why, a body with high energy density and low navigational control.
mircea_popescu: now, go ahead and explain this to pankkake somehow. but in such a way so it fits his preconceptions comfortably.
decimation: there are millions of pankkakes who have become comfortable with living in whatever jungle conditions they find themselves
decimation: they might even find a particular patch of jungle that is more pleasing than another
mircea_popescu: sure, but that's cleaved. personal experience is one thing, personal understanding another.
decimation: it might be the case that this kind of understanding can only be had through a few cycles of systemds
decimation: * a few cycles of personal systemd experience
mircea_popescu: in any case, no amount of energy put into cutting short the ego and curbing the enthusiasm of the general population is wasted.
mircea_popescu: just like it's better to run a car just slightly slower than the maximum speed at which you can control a car, just so it's better to aspire to less than what one can actually do.
mats_cd03: not as long as people like poettering keep breathing amd contributing.
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 the one thing three eyar olds have in common across language and geography is this tendency to bring you a piece of paper they took a shit on, for your admiration.
mircea_popescu: aka, they "contribute".
mircea_popescu: ;;google maddox better than your kids
gribble: I Am Better Than Your Kids - Page 1: <http://www.iambetterthanyourkids.com/>; I am better than your kids. - The Best Page In The Universe.: <http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=irule>; Crappy Children's Art: Maddox: 9781439182888: Amazon.com: Books: <http://www.amazon.com/Crappy-Childrens-Art-Maddox/dp/1439182884>
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22193 @ 0.00046024 = 10.2141 BTC [+]
decimation: semi-related lols (warez): http://www.isegoria.net/2014/11/denigration-of-the-great-revolution/ "The latest Assassin’s Creed video game takes place in Paris during the French Revolution, and French leftists are appalled that the heroes of the People are depicted as bloodthirsty savages:"
assbot: Denigration of the Great Revolution « Isegoria ... ( http://bit.ly/1uNEPQQ )
decimation: I want to play a game where I can stab Marat in the back
asciilifeform: i want to stab authors of www browsers who enable 'right click disable' in the front.
asciilifeform: and back.
decimation: asciilifeform: a betrayal of the first order, this, the computer serving someone other than its master
asciilifeform: paradoxically, it is actually more annoying to me than to most lamers, because i end up doing some actual work, to grab the machine by the neck until shits itself into submission
asciilifeform: whereas lamer can surrender and go on with his life
decimation: I wonder if one can 'disable' the javascript hook that causes this
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