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(trilema) ben_vulpes: apologies for the degredation in service, i have personal irc logs and will stitch them back into history
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: tyvm for bringing that to my attention. i dropped the ball on service cutover. as mp astutely observed, the temporary host for these services is not a cuntoo, but some heathen convenience, conveniently different enough from my normal remote home that the logger for the ircbot refused to start, which (somehow!!!!!) fouled the bot's self reboot capabilities.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: iron safely stowed
(trilema) ben_vulpes tearing personal and foundation iron out of hometown dc, bbl
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the many sleepless nights of the rural amphet didn't help.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sad fate to be remembered for failing to take out agents of the imperium given ~unlimited time and inclination to prepare.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://archive.fo/WeQ7Q << ruralia continues to deliver lulz: "booby trapped wheelchair", "hot tub attached to tripwire" "elder abuse"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i was going to ask for a traceroute
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's odd, i'll look
(trilema) ben_vulpes: those reluctant to diddle /etc/hosts without seeing signed material first may: curl --header 'Host: cascadianhacker.com' 216.151.13.77/dns_update.txt
(trilema) ben_vulpes: taking mimisbrunnr down for a spell
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-9-30#436976 << absent the fence, coulda been done vastly more quickly.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well obviously someone sees the value in it as at least a testbed, what cost to him of registering a key.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not surfacing every single person capable of operating a v for subsequent filtering of whether or not they are ready to convert also yields.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pizarro seemed a) worthwhile endeavour b) could be let fail and the experiment run again c) had good odds of rescue mission succeeding for a time.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1855843 << absolutely. however i see risk of a tendency to 'lender of last resort' misbehaviors if unchecked (by whom?! forum clearly. which you address in your point re not throwing out everything the pantsuits touch.)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh see thread with asciilifeform
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "ensure access to the mainline set of patches" was the best i ever came up with for an operating thesis.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: on the thread of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1855797, upon meditation, tbf was willing to host kids' projects at various points. didn't, in the case of lobbes, because he didn't take funding. kids ever-declining cost next to tbfs kitty inclines me to continue considering these projects.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is there some fetlife for nerds funnel under optimization?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so then what loss? if heathen has changed religion what are they doing out of church
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mm, i didn't mean to suggest 'republic only' trb net. it is however a pretty sane client for the extant network, and perhaps there is value in gating access to such a gem from teh hoi polloi. what with trinque's impending hotwallet patches and his demonstration of their value with trb services, the gem will become only of more value.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i do not advocate that tbf hide the sauce away, dun fear
(trilema) ben_vulpes: inner popscu suggests "what, as if its used by anyone outside the republic anyways? if joe blow wants a sane client (which republicans should be mentioning in their blogs etc), he can join the republic and ask for the vpatches." but perhaps i'm undercalibrated.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: did what, as far as mod6 and i could tell, it needed to.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (elsewhere, saws buzz, coats of poly are applied, a decade of life-dross triaged and arrangements made to ship the most-valued and useful posessions across the continent continue...)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it also carves off an unsightly imho pantsuit wart upon the side of the republic, a "non-profit organization" with names and caftans etc.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this has the advantage of aligning tbf with how things actually work in the republic, as driven forward by the hands of those doing the work.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: for that reason, largely only spending cash on hosting services. recently also a few hardware nodes. it creates work for mod6 in the vein of the monthly reports. perhaps a nutty suggestion, but it could cleanly be wound down (the charter modified), and mod6 to continue the monthly reports on his blog.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: by and large i saw the responsibility to ensure that the reference bitcoin client source stayed available to the republic, although at the time i recall a more "to everyone" flavor in my own thinking.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah who even wrote that thing :P
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/HUrlW/?raw=true << winklevii taking a crack at "tether" market
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why that particular block height for all the other entries, mod6 ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: once you understand double entry accounting it's not so difficult; glad the documentation made your life easier.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm mock offended at the notion i'd let a liability kick around off sheet
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not as far as i can recall.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i believe it's topologically identical to a call option that doesn't expire with a strike price of the "per share price".
(trilema) ben_vulpes: should i exercise them, the corporation takes in the btc i pay for them and adds them to the cap table.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nono, warrants are the right to purchase shares from the corporation at a price.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: i'm pretty sure that we're all squared up.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: trying to give away btc or what
(trilema) ben_vulpes: should probably just take the loot lest anyone accuse me of virtue signaling!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's a sticky position, being stuck between my jewish scruples and having zero desire to ding the isp pointlessly.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not that i want to not get paid, but i don't recall a previous agreement
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so mod6 you want to pay me for services already rendered?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: horee shit mircea_popescu in stunna shades will wonders never cease
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://mycadia.com/ << "synthetic brands to sell synthetic food to synthetic people"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ooh ooh; pisicologist ~='cuntologist'?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: girl in question has been admirably sinking holes, casting posts, hanging cladding.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wives are chattel property!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: has it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: not selling, leasing on, incomplete upgrades are a pretty serious ding in negotiation.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: ah ah, well i started on the fence *first* and then i decided to move.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i also happen to enjoy my privacy.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh no, this is a statal bezzle where the local cps takes "at risk" children and sells them to "foster care". statal human trafficking ring.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aha, "child protective services"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu hails from lands where the children roam free, are eventually returned to their parents, right?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: children too
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i would like to pen the pets, this isn't quite the free-range wild wild west where i can brand them and expect them back later in the week
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: hey i like finding shitty bars in shitty neighborhoods and talking up the locals; don't want to live there
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "fucking, a guide"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Mocky: "reach and balance"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah teh barge
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is associated in my head with a post i recall as "river of sluts", which i'm sure has an actual title.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i recall this
(trilema) ben_vulpes: all of the pics redirect to random trilemaz
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'd written europe off largely on the basis of 'natoreich', but if there are habitable holes i'd rather live in stone than plastic
(trilema) ben_vulpes: uruguay or sa most likely; while marseilles sounds lovely and i vastly prefer french to spanish it is unfortunately in france and so also the eu for the forseeable future. pretty fed up with not living near major airport hubs; access to surf also a criteria for expatquest
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and should it suck, well, i've at least snipped the girl's attachment to the easy comfortable lifestyle of the pacnw
(trilema) ben_vulpes: north of california, west of the rockies the humanpaste is ~entirely undifferentiated, curious to see if this holds for louisiana, tx, fl.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pretty grade a story, am looking forward to meeting different americans
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is this why you're always going on about san antonio?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: im also evaluating this claim that the lone star state is somehow not the same thin plastic veneer over zamac the rest of the country's made of. it at least has endogenous oil stores and the locals carry a reputation for being profit minded
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a bit, yeah. i've also lived in the same libtard shithole for nigh on three decades at this point; far past time to meet the rest of america.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i remain available and actively supporting mod6 and BingoBoingo when they need something from me on the pizarro front
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tenative schedule is to have current domus released by end of october and new digs established ~same time.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: days are mostly wake -> grind out food credits -> grind out more holes in ground -> sink posts -> fabricate and erect cladding -> sleep, with the occasional beer
(trilema) ben_vulpes: new destination, clean + lease the illiquid asset, and then set up shop in the new area
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: the inane shit occupying my time instead of republican efforts is embarrassingly trivial, but since you ask: i'm moving to texas, and so now must wrap fence that was supposed to be a two-season relaxed affair by mid september; throw out a decade+ of crap that i shouldn't have been so lax as to let stick around in the first place, pack my whole existence into transpocubes, get it moved to the
(trilema) ben_vulpes: iirc he let the hosting account lapse.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh this is for shared hosting, my mistake.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: the last rev of your notes says that he's paid up through october 2018
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: fixed. moved the log directives out of the directory block and into the top level virtualhost, and made the logdir for the user in question
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if it's that simple, that'd be spiffy indeed
(trilema) ben_vulpes: incorporation-related*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: iirc lacnic wants to see the existing block more heavily used than it is right now before allocating more, BingoBoingo was there something else incorporation that LACNIC wanted to see?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: antenna? shitton of copper if it's solid.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i say, this coordinated attack on the republic is underimpressive
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "homeopathic"? almost but not quite exactly ersatz ersatz or what
(trilema) ben_vulpes: eyy, anyone want to guess what i found in the toothpaste?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol hey check it out; this guy gets a haul of 300kusd+ for not responsibledisclosuring and douchebags of the world wank themselves raw over 5K and a spot on the altavista hall of fame
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hm lemonde blocks archive.is?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: never skip leg day
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i don't actually know of this deformity
(trilema) ben_vulpes: head UP! tits OUT! hips TILTED BACK!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the problem isn't your /posture/, kids, it's your /lifestyle/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: haw someone just sent me an ad for a nylon "posture brace"; not that a brace is going to do anything for the lump of muscle developing at the base of millenial skulls from supporting their heads at a thirty-degree angle all day
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shed thirty years and three tonnes, do css on fiverr for bitdribbles
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and while the uncleals are convinced it'll be highway maintenance that blows a crater in the usg budget, i have high hopes that the heavy metal poisoning from 'vape pen' use will eclipse it by a few orders of magnitude
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ~only place builtup pre auto, not surprising
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: but for humans
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is auto optional in cr?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cult of motor is not for poorfags
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cars are expensive, what of it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sadly, am peristalted into cardboardhouse bigzone
(trilema) ben_vulpes: haven't even heard a peep about putting trans rights into the corporate handbook in at least three years!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ain't complaining
(trilema) ben_vulpes: less blue hair and fewer kilts as i move through the digestive tract
(trilema) ben_vulpes: juarez is right there
(trilema) ben_vulpes: got lured into a bezzle
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i mean the 'fly to terristostan, come home, get apprehended for aiding and abetting'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: pretty sure the brits do it too
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there's always the jail stiped if you fly over and then turn tail
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'haskellism' thread for those who mighta got something out of socrates.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: kids would rather sit around the table gabbling about whatever problems 0.00003% of the population have instead of sitting down and reading old shit about universals as what apply to 99.99% of the population
(trilema) ben_vulpes: which you, what this lol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque flagged whitaker's words for me as a latin dictionary (an ada artifact even!)
(trilema) ben_vulpes began the exercise as a form of entertainment during a road trip recently; "hey baby what do you think of this translation" "what does X mean in context of Y"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: turns out, absolutely no replacement for a large desk and several dictionaries
(trilema) ben_vulpes: all this time no auto-interlineated de toqueville; and on and on
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-16#1841997 << the otherwise-invisible failure to implement anything even approaching intelligence augmentation (or even the statistical AI crap) is never so obvious as when translating works in other languages on the touchscreendevices: why does 'iBooks' waste all of this time animating between the french and english translations of the book i'm working on; how is there after
(trilema) ben_vulpes: inserter-between-in-chief
(trilema) ben_vulpes: macports is the portagealike, homebrew is ~canonical apt-get
(trilema) ben_vulpes will log #asciilifeform later this afternoon
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!up nonlinear welcome back
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah, makes sense
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm not entirely clear as to the benefits of depreciation under the tmsr accounting regime; most of my experience has to do with optimizing tax treatment in fiatlandia which is irrelephant here
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yours, i mean.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no, that's correct
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'll be back later
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah have fun
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm here, we're close to the bottom. may as well finish it out.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: what else troubles ye, i have other sisyphean boulders slipping back downhill as we speak
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and it's a truncation, not a rounding
(trilema) ben_vulpes: like i said, baseless aspersions
(trilema) ben_vulpes casting baseless aspersions
(trilema) ben_vulpes: show me the perl that doesn't mangle double floats...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the slut is truncating
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !W (+ 0.46713262 (/ (+ 186 311 620 183 459 58 44 69 35 44) 6800) (+ 0.02129452 0.03333333 0.00901087))
(trilema) ben_vulpes: candi_lustt: (+ 0.46713262 (/ (+ 186 311 620 183 459 58 44 69 35 44) 6800) (+ 0.02129452 0.03333333 0.00901087))
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!up candi_lustt
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a bitcent says that's the difference between purchased usd and expenses denominated in usd, redenominated in btc.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: some .04 btc discrepancy from the report
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !Qcalc 0.46713262+0.3+(0.02129452+0.03333333+0.00901087)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: right, so factor out the invariant and let's calculate the net change since that's where we'll find discrepancies.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i mean to say that the .3 btc was spent on usd, some fraction of which was not in turn spent on expenses.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: first off, the .3 btc was spent on cash
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how about we just look at the net change, first
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (to be used in next months reports, etc. hence "reports as ground truth and not your account balance")
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ayup, this is how the bottom-of-the-report tables work: summing the previous months values against the current months values to derive a current number.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (the 10.4 under discussion)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: calculated per "sum the value of all non-capitalized purchases (DC, fiat spent denominated in BTC, and the sum of depreciation charges), and mark that as net change for intangibles and goodwill"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sum of previous month's goodwill and this month's goodwill
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: what is unclear about that line?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: derp 10.4, not 9.4
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: 10.4 is more of a note about what happens in various scenarios than instructions relevant to anything happening in this month's report
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so accounting's job is to provide a reasonable, non-malicious estimate of that value, and let investors perform their own valuation based on whether they think that a high or low value for the tangible in question.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah, keep in mind that the tangibles line is, again per "Accounting for the nonzero asset corporation" "any and all assets that could reasonably be expected to be exchangeable for BTC, even if at a loss"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i do not think that this coupling is necessary, however. a photo of the exchange rate from BingoBoingo at the same cambio on the 27th every month may be adequate.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: value for the previous month's closing value of the uyu/btc rate (which is also the opening rate for the next month)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the past two statements i have pulled that value from xe or forex.com at the time of statement generation. if you want to couple the UYU/USD price timing to that of the USD/BTC price timing, you'd have to hold off on issuing the previous month's statement until you have a btc price signal /for the month after the statement/, and then ask BingoBoingo what the uyu/usd rate is on that day in order to provide a
(trilema) ben_vulpes: we're talking tiny amounts of btc, but good process and understanding are important at the outset to forestall tears later, so bear with me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-05#1839607 there is a fine point here, that this is notionally a "closing-of-the-month" value for the UYU
(trilema) ben_vulpes: scuse me, fiat tangibles.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: i did not update that row after using the wrong conversion factor for fiat liabilities on my first pass; thank you for spotting that
(trilema) ben_vulpes: let me sum assets again.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: can prorate depreciation if you'd like, i elected not to.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: for what it's worth, i twice audited holdings while generating statements and they both came out correct. i suggest you use the statement generation process (combing through ledger/invoice output) to generate statements first, and audit against your personal accounts as a check.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways yes, if you want to audit the correctness of the statement against the value of cash held on behalf of pizarro, you will have to deduct your personal transactions from whatever account pizarro transactions flow in order to calculate a correct number.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: nothing stops you from doing this
(trilema) ben_vulpes: book truth lies in the statements; it is useful to verify that the cash line is correct but i would use it as a check, not the starting point from which to generate statements given a) payment timing b) personal use of accounts
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ding ding ding, okay.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh, this is summing accounts and pulling your change out of your deedbot balance?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what is that .08 you're subtracting out?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: usd/uyu are fiat assets. get booked as tangibles. see the tangibles table.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no hang on, no. btc is the only cash.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: more accurately it's cash + tangibles, and various fiats are tangible assets.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: you may want to check your account history, BingoBoingo is also sitting on 0.2 of pizarro's btc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: check to see if it's the difference between our btc values of uyu
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: the UYU book value will indeed fluctuate based on what number you use for the usd/uyu exchange rate
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why even stay on freenode?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo mod6 asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/6dB0R/?raw=true << detailed walkthrough of how i've been generating reports for pizarro, along with trial report for july. will doublecheck numbers tomorrow and finalize.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: billing as soon as the price signal is set avoids further waffling over spread between when price signal is set and when bills go out. necessarily entails a move to billing in advance.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: note he did not say that he was pissed, quite the contrary.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: you're doing a great job, don't hang yourself over a term of art.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: arrears are for services rendered already.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: everything is kosher, trinque wants clarity on arrears vs advance. what you are doing is billing in advance.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: no, what you have just done is bill for august service at the beginning of august.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque has it, mod6 is billing in advance now.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ("if so wtf that's a terrible use of money, and only subjects you to more orcery in your face")
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: 'tis why i ask
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: now that you have the buttbox do you plan to rent the cowork desk in perpetuity?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i miscalculated (under) the outgoing fiat total for pizarro last month by 186 USD; is the correct way to resolve that in this months statement to add an outgoing "adjustment" charge?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 2 unclosed tags on altavista.com/bugbounty
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i seee deaaaad people!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh hall of fame is what they give out to make the 750 bucks not sting so bad, huh?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: link to any of these famous halls?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the whole responsible disclosure threads went clear over your head
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: and you think that pantsuit press coverage instead of hosing their boxen is the key to fame fortune and a seat in tmsr?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: one can pay annually, but the discount is for quarterly up-front payments: 25%.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: if invoice day is the 15th on a month, figure you can close the auction before then?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so mod6 when does the august auction close?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: invoice date will be right after mod6 clears sale of btc and produces a price signal going forward
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sacrifices the public verifiability of "all foundation funds in addrx" but i don't know that's so valuable; foundation addr could just be the proverbial tip hat with some change in it and the curious are directed to read statements
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in unrelated http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-15#1656658 , ben_vulpes moving to texas to whip trinque's oarsmen, re-plumb engineroom, stand watch over gauges
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: awesome
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: discount for paying for a year in advance, there are also two fuckgoats in that machine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: otherwise one implies timeless energy-dragon crystalline perfection of self, which is a falsehood.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: then, sucked. now, suck less.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: to point at your evolution as a human being over time, for one
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "i was wrong, and the new piece lives at XXX" didn't pass muster or what
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'd dearly like to hear what arguments were so compelling as to turn you from the path of wifebeating, danielpbarron
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh neato, /me looks forward to reading
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there is always "evil mode" if you don't want to spend a month programming your own chords up front trolololol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't even want to think about the code, compile, run loop outside of the emacs toiletron
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lobbes: you have the thing running in a repl, right?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lobbes: that the outbox table has entries in it suggests that logbot-start-pg-thread was never called
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: thanks for teh ping
(trilema) ben_vulpes rattles trinque's cage
(trilema) ben_vulpes: esthlos: deedbot is right there, and a fine shared wallet
(trilema) ben_vulpes: rip drive by shooting range
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pathological fear of firearms doth not translate to safe firearm use

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