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(trilema) bitcoin935: amazing how mtgox has an order book at all with that 2 week freeze
(trilema) bitcoin935: mircea_popescu: comment on litecoing going on mtgox
(trilema) bitcoin935: i think mtgox is under 30% market cap by the end of the year now
(trilema) bitcoin935: mircea_popescu what do you think about bitpay removing mtgox quotes
(trilema) bitcoin935: anyone read the good news that bitpay is no longer using mtgox?
(trilema) ozbot: BitBet - Price of Bitcoin MtGox to be >= $1000 Before End of July 2013
(trilema) benkay: <ozbot> MtGox wires ARE delayed
(trilema) ozbot: MtGox wires ARE delayed
(trilema) davout: mtgox flows being classified as farts by correspondents is what i mean by "getting pressured from lots of different sides"
(trilema) davout: i don't think so, because i don't think they're having issues servicing mtgox, i think their issues are more likely related to getting pressured from lots of different sides
(trilema) mircea_popescu: currently mizuho is eating a lot of overhead handling the mtgox situation, exactly because the reporting involved in that pooling is being made more ciomplex and more expensive
(trilema) davout: nobody said they're going to cut out mizuho, i'm saying that it's technically possible for correspondents to filter out mtgox's flows but not possible to freeze the assets since they are probably pooled by mizuho on a US account at one/many of their correspondent(s)
(trilema) davout: and that's probably the reason their USD assets abroad didn't get frozen, because they're not in mtgox's name, but pooled by the mizuho at some random correspondent
(trilema) mircea_popescu: buit they ARE cutting mtgox's stuff. sooner or later mizuho will have to say sorry you can't bank here.
(trilema) davout: mircea_popescu: not sure about that, they don't accept mtgox's correspondence directly, but the correspondence of the jp bank
(trilema) mircea_popescu: mtgox is an exotic and therefore risky money handler.
(trilema) davout: looks like the mtgox lolfest is starting to make some sense
(trilema) mircea_popescu: mtgox gives up on bitcoin withdrawals too.
(trilema) jborkl_: I would like to trade like on MtGox, how do I do?
(trilema) mircea_popescu: trying to capitalize on mtgox success
(trilema) mircea_popescu: mtgox' success' most recent victim
(trilema) jurov: afaik eu is not involved with lr nor mtgox at all
(trilema) jurov: but don't know anything about how it was related to lr/mtgox, never seen that before
(trilema) FabianB: jurov: did you see that in -otc-eu? dagensia being somehow related with prev mtgox owner?
(trilema) taub: While working on this, it is quite clear that the type of trading interface that MTGox provides and probably the other Bitcoin exchanges is far from the capabilities really needed for a quality trading front end like Sierra Chart.
(trilema) gribble: MtGox lag is 0.065128 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.000130515782791 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
(trilema) eyetalian: mtgox same thing. they did not have proper accounts setup
(trilema) gribble: MtGox lag is 4505534.46497 seconds. During this time, light travels 9029.04062132 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to heliopause (out of the solar system!) (100 AU).
(trilema) gribble: MtGox lag is 13931181.7916 seconds. During this time, light travels 27917.9323291 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to heliopause (out of the solar system!) (100 AU).
(trilema) gribble: MtGox lag is 60.957265 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.122157676548 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
(trilema) gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a (1 more message)
(trilema) gribble: MtGox lag is 0.977132 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00195816158748 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
(trilema) asciilifeform: the mtgox id crap has nothing to do with "money launderers", etc
(trilema) mircea_popescu: FabianB iirc there was some kid supposedly having a mtgox leak
(trilema) sdsdd: mtGox and all ?
(trilema) gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message)
(trilema) fiat500: just before the mtgox/coinlab suit news broke
(trilema) ThickAsThieves: mtgox.org trap
(trilema) pigeons: mtgox is run by jews and btce are black
(trilema) gribble: MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
(trilema) jurov: then there can be potentially a big spread between it and, say, mtgox
(trilema) taub: can someone give me the linke with the historic mtgox lag?
(trilema) taub: anyone else think mtgox fees are still way too high?
(trilema) mircea_popescu: depends dub, mtgox ?
(trilema) mircea_popescu: Namworld i wouldn't deposit money in mtgox because the mtgox risk requires a premium
(trilema) Namworld: So you wouldn't deposit money in MtGox because they don't pay interest on your balance?
(trilema) mircea_popescu: (and he was the "auditor" in the 1st mtgox heist, incidentally)
(trilema) mircea_popescu: herp. jed is still buthurt over the mtgox thing
(trilema) mircea_popescu: Ripple is led by Jed McCaleb (founder of MtGox, eDonkey) and Chris Larsen (e-loan, Prosper.com), both successful businessmen who do not have an interest in sullying their good name
(trilema) gribble: MtGox lag is 1.715716 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00343827565389 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its third largest moon, Io (0.002819 AU).
(trilema) gribble: MtGox lag is 0.465429 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.000932714504797 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
(trilema) gribble: CoinLab Sues MtGox | Bitcoin MagazineBitcoin Magazine: <http://bitcoinmagazine.com/coinlab-sues-mtgox/>; CoinLab sues MtGox : Bitcoin - Reddit: <http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1dl6uz/coinlab_sues_mtgox/>; CoinLab suing MtGox for $75 milliion? - Bitcoin Forum: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=193888.60>
(trilema) ThickAsThieves: ;;google original contract between Coinlab and MtGox
(trilema) ThickAsThieves: ;google original contract between Coinlab and MtGox
(trilema) davout: does anyone here have a link to the coinlab/mtgox contract
(trilema) qxzn: mtgox websocket api sends quote updates that are impossible
(trilema) mircea_popescu: i guess you've found mtgox' business model.
(trilema) Lizardbitcoin: that would put them firmly over 50% invoking the dreaded 51% fear auto sell mtgox bots
(trilema) b0n1: what do you think about the legal situation of mtgox atm? How do you estimate the risk?
(trilema) b0n1: to mtgox
(trilema) jurov: and that was before mtgox was cool
(trilema) Luke-Jr: MtGox->USAA takes at most 3 days or so
(trilema) jurov: of potentially waiting month or so for mtgox
(trilema) BitHub: i miss mtgox codes
(trilema) b0n1: the bank of mtgox takes 2000 YEN that are around 20 $
(trilema) Luke-Jr: b0n1: MtGox -> USAA costs about $30
(trilema) b0n1: does someone here use international wire to withdraw from mtgox?
(trilema) parseval: Similar to bitcoinity's chart for MtGox
(trilema) inhies: also, my mtgox USD db has 5070757 rows
(trilema) mircea_popescu: ", it scares me how much of a witch hunt is going on for MtGox and I wonder if MtGox is undergoing the same treatment that the Bitcoinica Consultancy received and if those criticizing MtGox are simply doing the bidding of Tihan Seale and his friends."
(trilema) mircea_popescu: the legacy of mtgox
(trilema) [\]: the same thing the US is doing to mtgox, china could do to AM
(trilema) parseval: Use case: You want to go play the volatile MtGox market to capitalize on changes in btc price, but you also want to keep your AM shares intact and collecting dividends while you do it.. Pay a small fee and a percentage, then repay your loan within the terms paid. Collect back your AM shares plus dividends.
(trilema) KRS1: mtgox has namecoin in their api too i did not know this..they must be at least slightly interested in the alt coins
(trilema) taub: We see that the MTGox data feed is not entirely reliable and also from an engineering perspective, its technical implementation really is very confusing and not well structured. They are using what is called a web socket and then on top of that Socket I/O . This is unnecessary and the method by which this is implemented is not technically correct. So we are not very impressed with the MTGox data feed. This is just a comment.
(trilema) taub: i love the sierrachart jabs at mtgox
(trilema) mircea_popescu: mtgox did a lot of marketing
(trilema) asciilifeform: ok as far as I can tell both mtgox and btce are salami slicing in the 5th decimal point and down.
(trilema) Bugpowda: I am worried about MtGox blah blah blah
(trilema) jurov: *mtgox engine sputters and dies*
(trilema) jborkl: I think mtgox engine is about to come back online
(trilema) jborkl: mtgox down for others also?
(trilema) mircea_popescu: sad day for mtgox investors anyway
(trilema) Enky: at least they have a regular license, i'm curious to know if mtgox is legit in japan
(trilema) Bugpowda: mtgox is sloppy
(trilema) truffles: thought mtgox was in Japan?
(trilema) sturles: Strictly speaking Mutum Sigillum LLC got their accounts frozen. Not MtGox.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: all us accounts of mtgox, now or future, under order of maryland judge
(trilema) jurov: if mtgox is fractional reserve then definitely yues
(trilema) davout: where's mircea trilema article making fun of the whole mtgox US debacle
(trilema) deadweasel: well, what about this dwolla thing, the mtgox fud about men in black ?
(trilema) mircea_popescu: <Uglux> wtf "Mtgox trading engine lag: 47405m 13s" ^^ bwahah
(trilema) gribble: MtGox lag is 38.038516 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0762287601635 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Saturn and Titan (0.0802 AU).
(trilema) Uglux: wtf "Mtgox trading engine lag: 47405m 13s" ^^
(trilema) gribble: MtGox lag is 18.980412 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0380365331327 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).
(trilema) mircea_popescu: best proof that mtgox doesn't really matter one could imagine.
(trilema) gribble: MtGox lag is 75.984144 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.152271373815 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
(trilema) gribble: MtGox lag is 39.868904 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0798968372215 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Saturn and Titan (0.0802 AU).
(trilema) Diablo-D3: I dont know why ANYONE does business with mtgox
(trilema) Diablo-D3: mtgox also cannot be touched under US laws, ie, I cannot sue them for a breach of security
(trilema) Diablo-D3: I dont trust mtgox to properly secure it because mtgox refuses to prove it is properly secured
(trilema) Diablo-D3: its why I wont send mtgox my data
(trilema) mircea_popescu: mtgox is getting fucked.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: mtgox thinks mpex is "illegal". mtgox thinks it is legal.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: anyway, as you say. mtgox does not talk to yubikey, it talks to teh computor.
(trilema) asciilifeform: someone should sit with the chump, and patiently explain that mtgox doesn't talk to your yubikey. it talks to your idiot consumer pc that happens to have a yubikey plugged in, and a display that can output whatever your new owner wants it to.
(trilema) asciilifeform: now you go to a site with routinely botched ssl, like mtgox (at least in the recent past), and then click "what the hell" when your browser complains
(trilema) mircea_popescu: i don't think it has anything to do with the 2fa mtgox issue but anyway
(trilema) asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you evil tempter, you just made me want to transfer btc to mtgox just to buy their yubikey.
(trilema) asciilifeform: or that mtgox has a session remanence bug
(trilema) mircea_popescu: nope. it'll do exactly the same thing as mtgox lieing about "hacks"
(trilema) asciilifeform: AFAIK mtgox uses usb widgets for 2fa
(trilema) jborkl_: mtgox down again
(trilema) davout: 1. i'd never sell out to mtgox, i'd rather die. (unless their offer is reasonable of course)
(trilema) kakobrekla: You can retrieve the engine lag from https://data.mtgox.com/api/1/generic/order/lag . Sometimes this grows to couple of minutes, and every order you send (or quotes) are delayed by this amount. So it's nice to know about this value when doing trades.
(trilema) davout: relying on the mtgox ws feed sounds like folly
(trilema) davout: interesting, so it's sierracharts itself that collects the feed from mtgox
(trilema) kakobrekla: this is fun: We see that the MTGox data feed is not entirely reliable and also from an engineering perspective, its technical implementation really is very confusing and not well structured. They are using what is called a web socket and then on top of that Socket I/O . This is unnecessary and the method by which this is implemented is not technically correct. So we are not very impressed with the MTGox data feed. This is just a comment.
(trilema) gribble: MtGox lag is 0.777893 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00155888886228 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
(trilema) jborkl: and mtgox is offline
(trilema) mircea_popescu: in general, not just mpoe, not just mpex, not even just financials. mtgox book is puffy too
(trilema) kakobrekla: google for mtgox returns adwords for https://exante.eu/products/BTC/
(trilema) parseval: I want to add a bit to it, like a comparison line of the USD value over time as pulled from MtGox historical data, flags for dividends, and maybe a chart showing return rates
(trilema) gribble: (sell <amount> <thing> [at|@] <priceperunit> <otherthing> [<notes>]) -- Logs a sell order for <amount> units of <thing, at a price of <price> per unit, in units of <otherthing>. Use the optional <notes> field to put in any special notes. <price> may include an arithmetical expression, and {mtgox(ask|bid|last|high|low|avg)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, last, high, low, or avg price. May (1 more message)
(trilema) kakobrekla: ;;down mtgox.com
(trilema) iz: did anything ever happen w/ that coinbase/mtgox lawsuit?
(trilema) gribble: MtGox lag is 38.173593 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0764994529592 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Saturn and Titan (0.0802 AU).
(trilema) tiberiusiv: i said on record on thursday when the price was high 80's that mtgox lawsuit meant jackshit
(trilema) truff1es: what puzzles me about mtgox and bitcoin is why the need for id..
(trilema) kakobrekla: >I should have been clear on the aspect of the design and basic functionality - I think bitstamp is a clean interface but you are right, they have their flaws. Engine wise, I'd look towards the process MtGox is taking on and the partnerships they have forged with various companies to increase their survival (see: Prolexic partnership).
(trilema) mircea_popescu: these are the sorts of things nobody knows about. mpex too paranoid to allow ntp, mtgox buys more ram.
(trilema) Scrat: inb4 black mtgox helicopters landing outside your house
(trilema) Diablo-D3: mtgox has not done so
(trilema) Diablo-D3: mtgox is useless to me anyhow
(trilema) Diablo-D3: so why isnt mtgox suing them?
(trilema) gribble: MtGox lag is 0.452427 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.000906658642375 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
(trilema) gribble: MtGox lag is 17.070391 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0342088724344 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).
(trilema) davout: exchanges like mtgox need other licenses
(trilema) sturles: The case will probably end with some kind of settlement. CoinLab trying to put the blame on MtGox.
(trilema) davout: choking on the popcorn we eat watching the coinlab/mtgox farce
(trilema) davout: they haven't been hosted by mtgox for a while now
(trilema) mircea_popescu: no, they were hosted by mtgox
(trilema) tiberiusiv: mtgox will be at 20-30% marketcap within 12months anyway
(trilema) dub: ideally this whole deal gets ugly as fuck and we end up with no foundation and no mtgox
(trilema) jcpham: the mtgox/coinlab thing
(trilema) jcpham: what if mtgox blames coinlab
(trilema) jcpham: remember all those problems mtgox has been having during the "transition"
(trilema) tiberiusiv: why would mtgox settle
(trilema) jcpham: i like how coinlab has this emotional pr release and mtgox releases a one-liner
(trilema) tiberiusiv: but it wont be becuase of mtgox lawsuit
(trilema) tiberiusiv: mtgox will not be liable for 75 million
(trilema) tiberiusiv: mtgox is not sheltered in japan especially when their assets are in US banks
(trilema) tiberiusiv: mtgox isnt even worth that
(trilema) tiberiusiv: mtgox dotn have 75mil to pay lol
(trilema) tiberiusiv: why didnt mtgox follow through
(trilema) Bugpowder: ThickAsThieves: mtgox.com/login
(trilema) gribble: MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
(trilema) thestringpuller: MtGox has monopoly
(trilema) taub: yea but they don't have a big advantage over mtgox
(trilema) parseval: I'd rather keep MtGox than be forced to use a new inexperienced startup instead
(trilema) gribble: MtGox lag is 73.186028 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.14666398068 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
(trilema) gribble: MtGox lag is 10.6201 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0212825614914 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).
(trilema) mircea_popescu: MJR_ the post is about mtgox tho
(trilema) thestringpuller: mtgox is fucked what the fuck do you people expect
(trilema) thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: when did the mtgox news hit?
(trilema) error4733: any idea why BTC E is more expensive than mtgox ?
(trilema) mircea_popescu: so mtgox getting raided huh.
(trilema) KRS-1: mtgox did not create their SSL certificate correctly. If you go to www.mtgox.com you will get a cert error. They either did not buy a wildcard certificate or create the request using www.
(trilema) kakobrekla: could beat mtgox execution speed in some cases though
(trilema) gribble: MtGox lag is 12.167562 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0243836580132 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).
(trilema) taub: daily reminder that mtgox is run by amateures
(trilema) gribble: MtGox lag is 57.429796 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.115088668168 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
(trilema) gribble: MtGox lag is 29.035313 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0581864421564 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin approximately the distance covered by Voyager 1 in one week (0.0689 AU).
(trilema) nanotube: to avoid flooding mtgox
(trilema) gribble: MtGox lag is 0.251057 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.000503115417026 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
(trilema) gribble: MtGox lag is 1.642618 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00329178808033 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its third largest moon, Io (0.002819 AU).
(trilema) ezdiy: because btc and mtgox codes .... lol, good luck suing someone just for that
(trilema) ezdiy: or was it just mtgox codes?
(trilema) jurov: i hope that attack coincides with mtgox launch...for moar drama
(trilema) gribble: MtGox lag is 56.21932 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.112662887817 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
(trilema) taub: well yes, it's just a link to mtgox
(trilema) kakobrekla: its gonna be as bad as mtgox
(trilema) mircea_popescu: that entire max keiser & co meets mtgox lag episode
(trilema) mircea_popescu: you know who else is in cahoots with mtgox ? bitme and localbitoins.
(trilema) mircea_popescu: this makes a nice narrative. dwolla was created just to ach money through bitinstant before coinbase came about, all the while being in cahoots with mtgox and btcjam.
(trilema) gribble: MtGox lag is 0.963318 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00193047848615 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
(trilema) gribble: MtGox lag is 55.095492 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.110410749088 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
(trilema) gribble: MtGox lag is 19.402332 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0388820560887 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).
(trilema) mircea_popescu: so apparently mtgox is writing a new trade engine
(trilema) gribble: MtGox lag is 0.860826 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00172508566571 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
(trilema) mircea_popescu: KRS1 no, actually, i think he's the perfect image of mtgox
(trilema) jimbo2k: hey why is nobody trading on mtgox right now?
(trilema) gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message)
(trilema) jcpham: so everyone sits in mtgoxlive and provides free armchair analysis
(trilema) KRS1: he's in #mtgoxlive
(trilema) jcpham: when at the tim 85% of mtgox's volume was bitcoinica
(trilema) gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message)
(trilema) jborkl: sell a little at MTGOX, ddos MTGOX, then use the trollbox on btce
(trilema) ezdiy: take mtgox, fe, everyone agrees their stuff is sub-par
(trilema) ezdiy: sdice, mtgox and mpex are examples of such
(trilema) gribble: MtGox lag is 1.415076 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00283579646002 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its third largest moon, Io (0.002819 AU).
(trilema) gesell: mtgoxusd
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