Namworld: of course not. Just an exchange to trade credit from various issuers
    
    Namworld: At least the trading platform
    
    Namworld: I haven't really used the payment system
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 39 @ 0.0241 = 0.9399 BTC [-] 
    
    louong: so liberty reserve just got taken out?
    
    
    
    louong: go to libertyreserve.com
    
    Namworld: oh, I see what mircea meant about the chain stuff
    
    louong: and this: http://www.ticotimes.net/More-news/News-Briefs/Costa-Rican-arrested-in-Spain-for-alleged-financial-crimes_Friday-May-24-2013
    
    Namworld: Yeah, looks like the sending payment system does work that way
    
    Namworld: Just not the trading platform
    
    Namworld: So i guess the payment system is borked, but not the trading platform
    
    Namworld: So as long as you stick to the trading platform alone...
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 17 @ 0.0241 = 0.4097 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 10 @ 0.19 = 1.9 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1939 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.483997 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.545 = 1.635 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.025 = 0.1 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.024997 = 0.05 BTC [+] 
    
    Chaaang-Noi: lol copumpkin ?
    
    copumpkin: woof.
    
    Chaaang-Noi: pinappels dont w00f!
    
    Chaaang-Noi: they w00t!
    
    copumpkin: w00t.
    
    Chaaang-Noi: thats better :)
    
    dub: hello this is cow
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.489 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00075331 = 5.3485 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 22 @ 0.024997 = 0.5499 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.49 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.483997 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.4898 = 4.9796 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.024997 = 0.225 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.024207 = 0.1937 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 48 @ 0.109988 = 5.2794 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 6 @ 0.109989 = 0.6599 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.2439 = 3.1707 BTC [-] 
    
    Chaaang-Noi: http://www.ticotimes.net/More-news/News-Briefs/Costa-Rican-arrested-in-Spain-for-alleged-financial-crimes_Friday-May-24-2013
    
    Chaaang-Noi: wow
    
    ThickAsThieves: they got probation
    
    Chaaang-Noi: this happened today
    
    ThickAsThieves: for $30m drug and kiddie porn laundering
    
    Chaaang-Noi: liberty reserve is shut down
    
    Chaaang-Noi: well that is banking really...
    
    bdk_kluge: Wait... Who were the jerk-offs who made the metal coins and put a nominal dollar amount on them?
    
    bdk_kluge: I'm getting names confused.
    
    Chaaang-Noi: but probation?
    
    Chaaang-Noi: anyway LR is dead. more people will use BTC
    
    Chaaang-Noi: kludge i know who you are talking about, that was liberty dollar
    
    Chaaang-Noi: not the same
    
    bdk_kluge: Ohhhh! That's right. THanks.
    
    Chaaang-Noi: libert reserve is like web money os something
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 85 @ 0.009523 = 0.8095 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 10 @ 0.009522 = 0.0952 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00952 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 7 @ 0.01018 = 0.0713 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 13 @ 0.01019 = 0.1325 BTC [+] 
    
    bdk_kluge: Bringing up kiddie porn & drug trafficking sources is kind of ridiculous in the article.
    
    bdk_kluge: Bitcoin does the same thing.
    
    bdk_kluge: Lord only knows how many rapecoins, cokecoins, and murdercoins are in our wallets...!
    
    ThickAsThieves: maybe they all use litecoin
    
    Chaaang-Noi: banks do the same shit
    
    Namworld: LibertyReserve is dead?
    
    bdk_kluge: I'm still shocked by - who was it -- HSBC in Mexico with the drug cartels -  or was it RBS? Now I have to look it up again...
    
    louong: welcome to one hour ago
    
    bdk_kluge: *HSBC
    
    ThickAsThieves: Namworld needs a new way to store his ill-gotten money
    
    bdk_kluge: Cocaine XRP
    
    BitHub: it was hsbc
    
    ThickAsThieves: I had a HSBC credit card a long time ago, and one day they sent me this offer that essentially would result in a much higher APR through some scheme
    
    ThickAsThieves: so I cancelled it
    
    ThickAsThieves: i recall they used to get creative with fees too
    
    Namworld: Eh, just somewhat surprising
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.194 = 0.97 BTC [+] 
    
    dub: HSBC are crooked as fuck
    
    
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.451011 BTC [-] 
    
    Chaaang-Noi: the black market is so huge, odds are 1/4 of all money is dirty in some way, if not more
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.194999 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4899 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 4 @ 0.195 = 0.78 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.489999 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.49 BTC [+] 
    
    BitHub: that's racist
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6247 @ 0.00075171 = 4.6959 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.024993 = 0.2499 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3639 @ 0.00075171 = 2.7355 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.024997 = 0.325 BTC [+] 
    
    Chaaang-Noi: bithub lol
    
    BitHub: :D
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.195 = 0.975 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02479 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.024997 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 290 @ 0.0032 = 0.928 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 30 @ 0.00321 = 0.0963 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3130 @ 0.00075097 = 2.3505 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1434 @ 0.00075331 = 1.0802 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00075715 = 2.0064 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.489 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 24 @ 0.024997 = 0.5999 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.01019 = 0.0204 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.024996 = 0.3249 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.024996 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 2.49 = 24.9 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.000857 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.195 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.02505 = 0.0752 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2832 @ 0.0007609 = 2.1549 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2068 @ 0.00076528 = 1.5826 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00901 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 5 @ 0.009 = 0.045 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 2.49 = 32.37 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.199 = 0.398 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 5 @ 0.000858 = 0.0043 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 2.49 = 27.39 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00075789 = 3.7895 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3786 @ 0.00075789 = 2.8694 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0249 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.452101 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 2.7494 = 8.2482 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.488999 BTC [+] 
    
    Chaaang-Noi: anyone here know anything about dimonds?
    
    bdk_kluge: That TipTopGem guy's in Thailand, I believe.
    
    bdk_kluge: Dave Fortier
    
    Chaaang-Noi: yeah, he is the one selling, so i want to ask someone else :)
    
    Chaaang-Noi: trying to get a value on something he is selling, but i think its just way too high
    
    bdk_kluge: Oh. I don't know jack shit about diamonds, but he designed a ring for me something like a year ago and was pretty great throughout. I don't think he liked our design choices, though, lol
    
    Chaaang-Noi: but i dont know, the size is large, but the quality is low so i dont even know
    
    
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 2.489 = 24.89 BTC [+] 
    
    bdk_kluge: lol... why even bother including the ultra-subsidized shipping cost?
    
    bdk_kluge: $25 shipped to the US....
    
    bdk_kluge: Must fit in a flat-rate...
    
    bdk_kluge: Ohhhh... TBD... different from converted THB.
    
    Chaaang-Noi: i just looked up the value, its only worth 10k usd :(
    
    Chaaang-Noi: why would he try to sell a 10k usd car for 20k usd?
    
    Chaaang-Noi: so stupid
    
    bdk_kluge: Because Bitcoin?
    
    Chaaang-Noi: i guess
    
    Chaaang-Noi: people are going to ahve to be less stupid if this is to take off
    
    
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.452101 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4521 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.452002 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.452 = 4.904 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.45 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.442113 = 4.8842 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.024996 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 29 @ 0.024997 = 0.7249 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.024998 = 0.15 BTC [+] 
    
    Chaaang-Noi: on lazor printers, ink is not needed to be replaced correct?
    
    bdk_kluge: It uses powdered ink, I think.
    
    Chaaang-Noi: but it cant dry out?
    
    Chaaang-Noi: like if i use it once a month it will be fine?
    
    Chaaang-Noi: i got the ink jet and i did not use it enough and the ink always dried out, was crap
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00076527 = 7.6527 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2830 @ 0.00076528 = 2.1657 BTC [+] 
    
    bdk_kluge: No clue what's in the toner.
    
    bdk_kluge: If it's just powder, I'd assume you want it dry :p
    
    Chaaang-Noi: ill have to ask the shop guys
    
    Chaaang-Noi: buying new ink to print 5 pages is soo fail
    
    bdk_kluge: Yeah... I have an Epson inkjet. It "runs out of ink" every time I want to print something -.-
    
    Chaaang-Noi: i will never buy an ink jet again
    
    Scrat: that's the deal with every fucking inkjet on the market
    
    Scrat: they also don't seem to last for more than a year
    
    Chaaang-Noi: ink jets suck
    
    Chaaang-Noi: but what about low end black and white lazor printers?
    
    Scrat: they're better, but low end usually means that they'll break often
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2689 @ 0.00076528 = 2.0578 BTC [+] 
    
    maz0: you printing paper wallets?
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.02499 = 0.125 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.024997 = 0.05 BTC [+] 
    
    Chaaang-Noi: paper wallets and other documents
    
    Chaaang-Noi: i will print maybe 5 pages a month
    
    Chaaang-Noi: i dont trust kinkos or the like
    
    maz0: man seems like a waste. thats what I use the printer in work for
    
    maz0: when no one's looking :)
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.024997 = 0.25 BTC [+] 
    
    Chaaang-Noi: this is my work
    
    Chaaang-Noi: and i would rather waste $100 on a printer than lose $100,000 in btc
    
    maz0: ah well, if your dealing with that amount then...
    
    fiat500: Chaaang-Noi: i have a laser printer here that i use once or twice a year
    
    fiat500: (monochrome)
    
    fiat500: cheapo samsung ML series
    
    fiat500: i think it cost $40 or something ridiculously low like that
    
    
    
    wao: :D
    
    Chaaang-Noi: fiat500 and the ink will not dry out or whatever?
    
    fiat500: hasnt for me
    
    Chaaang-Noi: cool
    
    fiat500: you get like 22k pages or something
    
    fiat500: then you have to replace the toner
    
    fiat500: (or was it 2k?)
    
    Chaaang-Noi: i think im goint o pick one up $50 to $100 is worth the risk
    
    Chaaang-Noi: i will never print 2k pages
    
    fiat500: lol
    
    fiat500: then you have no problem
    
    Chaaang-Noi: my ink jet the ink on the heads just dried up cuz i did not use it enough
    
    Chaaang-Noi: so i had to buy new ink each time i wanted to print, was fail
    
    fiat500: havent used an inkjet since 2001
    
    Chaaang-Noi: honestly that is about the same for me maybe 2003
    
    Chaaang-Noi: i just dont want to go to the copy shop anymore esp btc stuff
    
    fiat500: lol yeah dont print your paper wallet at a kinko's
    
    Chaaang-Noi: :)
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.00075593 = 7.5971 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.025 = 0.05 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.46 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.3627 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 0.363 = 0.726 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1352 @ 0.00076098 = 1.0288 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 151 @ 0.0246 = 3.7146 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.45 = 4.9 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 18 @ 0.024997 = 0.4499 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2827 @ 0.00075809 = 2.1431 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.7494 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 2.7495 = 5.499 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 2.75 = 13.75 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.46 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00076528 = 9.8721 BTC [+] 
    
    mircea_popescu: http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/84683-parking-tickets-issued-on-wrecks-while-stockholm-burns
    
    mircea_popescu: dude sweden really works.
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.459 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1214 @ 0.00075973 = 0.9223 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 16 @ 0.024997 = 0.4 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0247 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.0247 = 0.0494 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.024996 = 0.05 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.024996 = 0.075 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 39 @ 0.024997 = 0.9749 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00075973 = 7.0655 BTC [-] 
    
    dub: 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.44 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00075992 = 3.2836 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15038 @ 0.00075973 = 11.4248 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00075973 = 3.2828 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.024996 = 0.1 BTC [-] 
    
    erickaz: help
    
    erickaz: !help
    
    assbot: List of commands:
    
    assbot: !ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}
    
    assbot: !last <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l}
    
    assbot: !mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
    
    assbot: !rules <nick/chan> (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r}
    
    assbot: !exchanges <nick/chan> (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e}
    
    furuknap: ;;ticker
    
    gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 128.29000, Best ask: 129.37234, Bid-ask spread: 1.08234, Last trade: 128.29000, 24 hour volume: 47920.23401049, 24 hour low: 127.80000, 24 hour high: 133.98000, 24 hour vwap: 130.65310
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 9 @ 0.000857 = 0.0077 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.024801 = 0.0496 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0248 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0247 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4145 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4144 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4143 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4142 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.414 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4122 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4051 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.405 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.402 = 7.206 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 4 @ 0.00335 = 0.0134 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.6001 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 54 @ 0.025 = 1.35 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0246 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0245 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0245 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0245 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.024372 = 1.2186 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.024372 = 0.6093 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.024371 = 1.2186 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.02505 = 1.2525 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02436 = 0.2436 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.024301 = 0.0972 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.024301 = 0.1944 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00075558 = 2.0401 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00075492 = 6.3413 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00075421 = 0.9805 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.000858 BTC [+] 
    
    mjr___: hi all
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.02505 = 0.501 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.0247 = 0.0988 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 30 @ 0.02505 = 0.7515 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.0247 = 0.1482 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.024302 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.109989 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 32 @ 0.0250999 = 0.8032 BTC [+] 
    
    furuknap: ;;ticker
    
    gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 129.80501, Best ask: 130.39999, Bid-ask spread: 0.59498, Last trade: 130.39999, 24 hour volume: 46859.30230998, 24 hour low: 127.80000, 24 hour high: 133.98000, 24 hour vwap: 130.72146
    
    furuknap: OMG IT'S CRASHING! WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE! SELL, SELL, SELL!
    
    mjr___: lol
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.024888 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.024302 = 0.1701 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.024301 = 0.0729 BTC [-] 
    
    ThickAsThieves: [12:55] <ThickAsThieves> we'll be back at 128-129
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.02505 = 0.1002 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.437999 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.438 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.0245 = 0.49 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 54 @ 0.0243 = 1.3122 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.02425 = 0.2425 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 21 @ 0.02420001 = 0.5082 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 155 @ 0.02420001 = 3.751 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 40 @ 0.0242 = 0.968 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.444 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 200 @ 0.025 = 5 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.0251 = 2.51 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.444 = 4.888 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0251 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0251 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.444 = 4.888 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00251225 = 2.5123 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 225 @ 0.025 = 5.625 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.025 = 0.225 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.025 = 0.05 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11341 @ 0.00075833 = 8.6002 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4061 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.406 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.35 = 0.7 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 80 @ 0.0249 = 1.992 BTC [-] 
    
    fiat500: what is AM doing halving their hashrate like that? if its intentional thats one thing - if its a hardware flaw thats a problem
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 533 @ 0.01019 = 5.4313 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.0102 = 0.102 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 35 @ 0.0102 = 0.357 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 250 @ 0.0102 = 2.55 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 21 @ 0.01021 = 0.2144 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 40 @ 0.0245 = 0.98 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.01023 = 0.0512 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.024147 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.024147 = 0.1449 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1500 @ 0.01025 = 15.375 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 35 @ 0.01025 = 0.3588 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.01025 = 0.1025 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1000 @ 0.0103 = 10.3 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.01035 = 0.1035 BTC [+] 
    
    deadweasel: ;;ticker --last
    
    gribble: 130.46896
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4112 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.411 = 4.822 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.41 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.411 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.024146 = 0.0483 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 66 @ 0.024145 = 1.5936 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.41 BTC [-] 
    
    paranainc: !e
    
    paranainc: ;;e
    
    gribble: Error: "e" is not a valid command.
    
    paranainc: e
    
    paranainc: !exchanges
    
    kakobrekla: it pms you.
    
    kakobrekla: !e
    
    kakobrekla: yea
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.41 BTC [-] 
    
    fiat500: !e
    
    paranainc: thanks
    
    paranainc: this is pretty cool
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 80 @ 0.0249 = 1.992 BTC [-] 
    
    ThickAsThieves: !e
    
    ThickAsThieves: no Bitfunder?
    
    paranainc: thats what im sayin
    
    deadweasel: !e
    
    fiat500: ThickAsThieves: im having the hardest time getting btc into my bitfunder
    
    fiat500: wex completely choked on my signup email
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.414 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2.43 = 12.15 BTC [+] 
    
    ThickAsThieves: try this
    
    ThickAsThieves: ditch your weex account
    
    ThickAsThieves: and make a new one
    
    ThickAsThieves: with a new addy
    
    fiat500: yeah it completely choked :P
    
    ThickAsThieves: you can only connect one weex to your bf
    
    ThickAsThieves: but you can make many weex
    
    ThickAsThieves: so just try again
    
    fiat500: havent been able to get past signup
    
    deadweasel: liberty reserve got squished, eh?
    
    ThickAsThieves: yep
    
    fiat500: ukto is looking into it anyway, fingers crossed
    
    deadweasel: "“Budovsky’s businesses in Costa Rica apparently were financed by using money from child pornography websites and drug trafficking,”
    
    deadweasel: i wonder
    
    Chaaang-Noi: i wonder what percent
    
    Chaaang-Noi: .0001% or 98.5% ?
    
    fiat500: cute COG divs
    
    deadweasel: exactly Chaaang-Noi
    
    deadweasel: he probably ran a tor relay once so they are saying he funded his busiess via cp
    
    Chaaang-Noi: seems to me that child porn and drug trafficing could theroriticly be done in usd
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0244 BTC [+] 
    
    Chaaang-Noi: cuz a drug dealer and a pedo uses usd , we should make it illegal
    
    Chaaang-Noi: if i was predident of the world, i would use drones to kill off people like that reporter
    
    paranainc: excellent idea
    
    Chaaang-Noi: all we need is to find one pedo making a drug purchas and we can kill of fiat right?
    
    Chaaang-Noi: thank fuck for btc
    
    deadweasel: lol, i think you should be able to pick up a drone online in the next 10 years
    
    JohnGalt1337: execute order 66
    
    paranainc: http://www.geek.com/geek-pick/wasp-the-linux-powered-flying-spy-drone-that-cracks-wi-fi-gsm-netwokrs-1407741/
    
    Chaaang-Noi: pretty sure i would be called a terrorist by many jounilist ffor killing off stupid journilitz
    
    Chaaang-Noi: anyway i was just kidding, im all about free speach and free prees but what that guy said was just ignorant
    
    Chaaang-Noi: <fiat500> cute COG divs                yeah, but you buy goc for its potential, not its current divs. they are honestly small next to AM
    
    ThickAsThieves: mircea_popescu, I'm gonna be one of those people to thank you for prying my eyes open after our conversation about AM yesterday
    
    ThickAsThieves: the more I thought about it
    
    ThickAsThieves: the more I dug into how correct you were
    
    ThickAsThieves: and now totally agree
    
    ThickAsThieves: AM's path must be to control and even insitigate the total commoditization of mining hardware
    
    ThickAsThieves: while sorting a way to transcend the traditonal mining market
    
    ThickAsThieves: parlaying their resources into a tertiary market
    
    ThickAsThieves: like custom ASIC design, or government contracts for custom decryption or whatever
    
    deadweasel: paranainc: that's a helluva drone!
    
    cole_albon: !e
    
    ThickAsThieves: the only saving grace i can suss for AM
    
    ThickAsThieves: is that they are in CHina
    
    ThickAsThieves: which makes it more likely that any notable competitor of theirs would have to also be there
    
    ThickAsThieves: due to low costs
    
    Chaaang-Noi: yes
    
    Chaaang-Noi: i bought into AM just cuz they were in china
    
    fiat500: Chaaang-Noi: at this scale they shouldnt be paying divs out, they should be reinvesting and trying to get their hands on as much hardware as possible, soon
    
    Chaaang-Noi: right now they have shit loads of btc to spend
    
    Chaaang-Noi: fiat500 i agree, but they are buying lots right now
    
    ThickAsThieves: they need to be the vistaprint of mining
    
    ThickAsThieves: and just gut everything
    
    ThickAsThieves: including themselves
    
    ThickAsThieves: for max profit
    
    fiat500: the more they wait, the longer it will take for them to get started
    
    fiat500: their only hope right now is to cash out big before the nethash skyrockets
    
    fiat500: corollary: shut up and spend my money!
    
    ThickAsThieves: small mining devices, cheap mining devices,
    
    ThickAsThieves: ASICs in related producst
    
    ThickAsThieves: like phones
    
    fiat500: anyone know how many USB miners were sold?
    
    ThickAsThieves: thats the way
    
    ericmuyser: ThickAsThieves: agree!!
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.407 = 7.221 BTC [-] 
    
    ThickAsThieves: just saturate the world
    
    ThickAsThieves: and gtfo
    
    ericmuyser: fiat500: but i dont think the divs are much to them really
    
    fiat500: ericmuyser: they are even less to us
    
    ThickAsThieves: yesterday I mentioned they could be like HP
    
    ThickAsThieves: and didnt realize how right i was,
    
    ericmuyser: fiat500: yah but it hypes their value
    
    ericmuyser: much more than the actual divs
    
    ThickAsThieves: because HP didnt want to the PC business after they got it
    
    ThickAsThieves: they achieved max commoditization
    
    ericmuyser: "i want 0.02 divs!" *buys in and loses 0.8 from the drop*
    
    ThickAsThieves: and then wanted to move on to other types of biz
    
    ericmuyser: but it gets em in
    
    fiat500: lmfao
    
    Chaaang-Noi: <ericmuyser> "i want 0.02 divs!" *buys in and loses 0.8 from the drop*        you will be even in a month :)
    
    ericmuyser: right of course
    
    fiat500: ThickAsThieves: its a bit of a stretch though, HP built hardware that people could do work/play on
    
    fiat500: i.e. had a use
    
    fiat500: a 300MH/s usb stick that generates < $1/month isnt that
    
    ericmuyser: they should be doing that, more R&D
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.024146 = 0.2656 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.024145 = 0.2173 BTC [-] 
    
    ThickAsThieves: to be clear,
    
    ThickAsThieves: i'm not saying mp turned me skeptical on AM
    
    ThickAsThieves: he merely helped me clarify my desires for them as a company
    
    ThickAsThieves: I was already caring less about the growth of their mining farm
    
    ThickAsThieves: but now i dont care about it at all
    
    ThickAsThieves: selling hardware at the highest quantity and cheaper than competitors is the real cashcow
    
    ThickAsThieves: and if they plan to exist long term
    
    Chaaang-Noi: i agree
    
    ThickAsThieves: they need to plan to capitilize on that
    
    Chaaang-Noi: but we more or less picked this path like 2 months ago
    
    ThickAsThieves: and then make a jump to a tertiary market
    
    Chaaang-Noi: once auctions were 70 btc plus we were like fuck.. lets do this...
    
    ThickAsThieves: yep, and then when BFL or womever does ship
    
    ThickAsThieves: AM can just sell for 10% less than them
    
    ThickAsThieves: and rape
    
    Chaaang-Noi: :)
    
    Chaaang-Noi: also wait times
    
    Chaaang-Noi: bfl ships who knows, am ships next day
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4072 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.407 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.10997 BTC [-] 
    
    fiat500: who runs BFL btw
    
    ThickAsThieves: i think he's a convicted criminal actually
    
    ThickAsThieves: i forget the name
    
    ThickAsThieves: some scammer
    
    fiat500: LOL
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00075421 = 4.5253 BTC [-] 
    
    Chaaang-Noi: yeah he did jail time
    
    Chaaang-Noi: fed jail time
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.00251225 = 4.5221 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.43 BTC [+] 
    
    
    
    fiat500: quite
    
    
    
    ThickAsThieves: Perfect Money no longer supporting US customers
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.02450001 = 0.049 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.02450001 = 0.147 BTC [-] 
    
    orkaa: it's not that perfect it would seem
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.02435 = 0.1218 BTC [+] 
    
    ThickAsThieves: YEEEEOOWWWW
    
    fiat500: fuck em anyway, charging 6%, what is that
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 200 @ 0.0245 = 4.9 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.0245 = 0.098 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100 @ 0.00075421 = 0.0754 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00075268 = 7.4515 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 33 @ 0.02432 = 0.8026 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.43 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02431 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 460 @ 0.0242 = 11.132 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2096 @ 0.00251225 = 5.2657 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 99 @ 0.0242 = 2.3958 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0242 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.02415 = 0.0966 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 21 @ 0.0245 = 0.5145 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 26 @ 0.024145 = 0.6278 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02412 = 0.2412 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.02412 = 0.1206 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.0241 = 0.4097 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4385 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4448 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 45 @ 0.0243 = 1.0935 BTC [+] 
    
    error4733: ;;bids 0
    
    gribble: There are currently 13709258 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 18594766.4567 USD in total. | Data vintage: 18.2833 seconds
    
    error4733: ;;asks 111111111111111111
    
    gribble: There are currently 104685.69 bitcoins offered at or under 1.11111111111e+17 USD, worth 6.99157250609e+13 USD in total. | Data vintage: 25.4900 seconds
    
    error4733: ;;eightball good time to sell ?
    
    gribble: NO.
    
    kakobrekla: http://www.ticotimes.net/More-news/News-Briefs/Costa-Rican-arrested-in-Spain-for-alleged-financial-crimes_Friday-May-24-2013
    
    ericmuyser: ;;next
    
    gribble: targets: 140-145, 160-166, 178-188 | support: 128-130 | #bitcoin [Fri, 24 May 2013 18:24:11 +0000] | tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/139er6E | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | https://twitter.com/BitcoinOracle | updated by OneFixt | 22 hours, 30 minutes, and 27 seconds ago
    
    ericmuyser: ;;eightball invest more in asicminer?
    
    gribble: NO.
    
    error4733: ;;eightball time to short AM ?
    
    gribble: Obviously.
    
    ericmuyser: ;;eightball sex with sister?
    
    gribble: No chance.
    
    ericmuyser: damn
    
    aknap3: ;;eightball sex with sister?
    
    gribble: You're kidding, right?
    
    aknap3: well, it's random right?
    
    ericmuyser: aknap3: no luck
    
    error4733: no, its gribble
    
    ericmuyser: aknap3: maybe maybe not... <spooky>
    
    aknap3: ;;eightball sex with myself?
    
    gribble: No chance.
    
    aknap3: whew
    
    error4733: the ghost of satoshi is on gribble
    
    error4733: kakobreka : yes, drama of the day :)
    
    error4733: ;;eightball LR is down, it's good for BTC ?
    
    gribble: NO.
    
    kakobrekla: gribble u mad.
    
    error4733: yep, is mad ! so eric you still have a chance
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1075 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1072 BTC [-] 
    
    Chaaang-Noi: ;;slap his genitals
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 27 @ 0.0245 = 0.6615 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.02450001 = 0.2205 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 329 @ 0.0249 = 8.1921 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 36 @ 0.0249 = 0.8964 BTC [+] 
    
    Chaaang-Noi: ;;slap goat's genitals
    
    Chaaang-Noi: hmmm, i guess i can get off to that
    
    BTCOxygen: ;;slap gribble
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.262 BTC [-] 
    
    deadweasel: Chaaang-Noi, where do you pick up cog shares?
    
    Chaaang-Noi: btct.co
    
    Chaaang-Noi: you want haz?
    
    deadweasel: i dunno, i figure it's the ltc of mining, but I was gonna take a look
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 58 @ 0.0241 = 1.3978 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.0241 = 0.6025 BTC [-] 
    
    Chaaang-Noi: okay
    
    Chaaang-Noi: it was the mining company btw
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.435 BTC [-] 
    
    Chaaang-Noi: it was the best before AM
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 41 @ 0.02405 = 0.9861 BTC [-] 
    
    Chaaang-Noi: it wont get better than AM ever imo but it was undervalued when i bought in massivly at .115
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.0242 = 2.42 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.02425 = 2.425 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.0243 = 2.43 BTC [+] 
    
    Chaaang-Noi: i think it might peak near 1 btc each if his preorders hit at the right time
    
    Chaaang-Noi: but its a guess
    
    Chaaang-Noi: bbl
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.199 = 0.398 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.199 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 18 @ 0.02425 = 0.4365 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.43 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.435 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.44 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02405 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.02425 = 0.097 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.445 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.44 BTC [-] 
    
    furuknap: I need to be proven wrong again... Give me your best estimate on network increase (in percent) per month over the next 12 months on average.
    
    ThickAsThieves: impossible
    
    ThickAsThieves: there is no way to give a good estimate
    
    furuknap: Impossibe to give me your best?
    
    ThickAsThieves: best would still be bad
    
    ThickAsThieves: as in useless
    
    furuknap: Did I say I wanted your best or good?
    
    ThickAsThieves: ok, 10% per diff change
    
    furuknap: We know it's not going to be 10000% or 1% so it's somewhere in between.
    
    ThickAsThieves: thats my best guess
    
    ThickAsThieves: that gives you an easy number to make a formula with too
    
    furuknap: And is that just a complete random number or do you think it is based on at least some rational thought?
    
    furuknap: Not looking for formulas right now, and difficulty really isn't part of that equation at all :-)
    
    ThickAsThieves: i think we've been getting closer to 10% per
    
    furuknap: ;;estimate
    
    gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 13355540.2437 based on data since last change | 12915952.6158 based on data for last three days
    
    ThickAsThieves: and that it we might see some weeks where its more
    
    ThickAsThieves: ;;nethash
    
    gribble: 92457.4009239
    
    furuknap: Sure, and some weeks, it may be a bit lower, but doesn't really matter, I'm just picking some random scenarios for an article.
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.42 BTC [-] 
    
    ThickAsThieves: even better reason to use 10%per then
    
    ThickAsThieves: so readers can grasp it
    
    furuknap: Actually, since 10% means 20% per month, 5% would be better, but I don't want to be too unrealistic.
    
    furuknap: What was the previous increase btc? Just to have as a point of reference...
    
    ThickAsThieves: rephrase?
    
    furuknap: *btw, not btc
    
    ThickAsThieves: it was 10%+ i think
    
    furuknap: How much of an increase was the last retarget in percent?
    
    ThickAsThieves: like about 11% if i recall
    
    ThickAsThieves: ;;bc,stats
    
    furuknap: Ah, OK, I'll check it out.
    
    gribble: Current Blocks: 237893 | Current Difficulty: 1.2153411709775832E7 | Next Difficulty At Block: 239903 | Next Difficulty In: 2010 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 14 hours, 50 minutes, and 38 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 13355540.2437 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.89128
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.02405 = 0.2165 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 89 @ 0.02401 = 2.1369 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.024 = 0.048 BTC [-] 
    
    ThickAsThieves: 10% per is a good guess methinks
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.415 BTC [-] 
    
    furuknap: A bit lower, actually: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-05-2013#54044 <- Aronud 7.6%
    
    ThickAsThieves: afk
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.412 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.411003 = 4.822 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.40782 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.40782 = 4.8156 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4077 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100 @ 0.00075389 = 0.0754 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1210 @ 0.00075389 = 0.9122 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.55 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 19 @ 0.0244 = 0.4636 BTC [+] 
    
    furuknap: Didn't I read that ASICMiner can put 1TH online for around $10K?
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.0244 = 0.1464 BTC [+] 
    
    fiat500: why would they do that if they are selling 10GH/s miners for $5k?
    
    furuknap: They're only abale to do that because nobody else is shipping. Will you still pay $5K for a 10GH/s in one year?
    
    fiat500: no, i wouldnt even do that today
    
    furuknap: Right. So either they stop mining or they pay some sum of money per TH, and I believe that number to be $10K.
    
    furuknap: I just need a number to illustrate reinvestment cost to maintain hashrate, but my Google-foo couldn't find a friedcat mention of that number.
    
    furuknap: It's not terribly important, though.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00075389 = 1.6209 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02401 = 0.2401 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.024006 = 0.12 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.024005 = 0.2641 BTC [-] 
    
    fiat500: topace: does havelock have a (pull) API?
    
    fiat500: !e
    
    trzu: anyone got an email by crypto-trade?
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.409 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.409 BTC [+] 
    
    ThickAsThieves: I got an email from them
    
    ThickAsThieves: with this inside
    
    ThickAsThieves: http://24.media.tumblr.com/8ce5e54b96a4cd5bef94e80edd131d5d/tumblr_mj44lmV4LH1rv117wo1_500.gif
    
    ThickAsThieves: dunno what it means
    
    fiat500: hahahaha
    
    ThickAsThieves: :)
    
    kakobrekla: perhaps haxed
    
    fiat500: would be ironic
    
    fiat500: im looking for an alternative to bitvps
    
    fiat500: something reliable
    
    ThickAsThieves: the hack won't come until after CT is live
    
    ThickAsThieves: no point hacking yourself without taking some coins with you
    
    trzu: they are worse than bfl
    
    ThickAsThieves: not quite
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 97 @ 0.0151 = 1.4647 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.015 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01392 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.01361 = 0.1361 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 300 @ 0.013005 = 3.9015 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 50 @ 0.013004 = 0.6502 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4399 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.024749 = 0.099 BTC [+] 
    
    furuknap: Two hours left of the crypto-trade deadline... Which number is this, the sixth?
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4375 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4377 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.02434 = 0.0974 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4375 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4375 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 2.4377 = 21.9393 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4399 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 27 @ 2.44 = 65.88 BTC [+] 
    
    fiat500: O_o
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.54551 = 5.4551 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 11 @ 0.54551 = 6.0006 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.5455 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.5452 = 1.0904 BTC [-] 
    
    user741: !help
    
    assbot: List of commands:
    
    assbot: !ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}
    
    assbot: !last <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l}
    
    assbot: !mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
    
    assbot: !rules <nick/chan> (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r}
    
    assbot: !exchanges <nick/chan> (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e}
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4349 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.435 = 9.74 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 29 @ 0.024749 = 0.7177 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.199 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 3 @ 0.00335 = 0.0101 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02434 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100 @ 0.00075268 = 0.0753 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00075266 = 7.1503 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.435 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.567999 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4091 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 17 @ 2.409 = 40.953 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02435 = 0.2435 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02439 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02439 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.02439 = 0.3415 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 4 @ 0.199 = 0.796 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 9 @ 0.1999 = 1.7991 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.199998 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 31 @ 0.00335 = 0.1039 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00075266 = 1.4301 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1063 @ 0.00075255 = 0.8 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.02439 = 0.1463 BTC [+] 
    
    deadweasel: $avg
    
    mpexbot: deadweasel: 130.00
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00075201 = 5.3393 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00075155 = 4.7348 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.199999 = 0.4 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 13 @ 0.2 = 2.6 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.02475 = 0.2228 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02475 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 21 @ 0.0248 = 0.5208 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.0248 = 0.124 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.02439 = 0.0732 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.0244 = 0.122 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 474 @ 0.0248 = 11.7552 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4101 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2.41 = 12.05 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.425 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 131 @ 0.0248 = 3.2488 BTC [+] 
    
    furuknap: http://coin.furuknap.net/can-100th-really-be-the-next-asicminer/ <- Again a somewhat simplified analysis. Take it for what it's worth.
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.567999 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 170 @ 0.02485 = 4.2245 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4347 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 500 @ 0.0249 = 12.45 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4347 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.4348 = 9.7392 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 600 @ 0.02491 = 14.946 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 2.4348 = 14.6088 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 485 @ 0.02494 = 12.0959 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2.435 = 12.175 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 252 @ 0.02492 = 6.2798 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.435 = 4.87 BTC [+] 
    
    tbzu: neotrix failed again
    
    ThickAsThieves: furuknap, the 3.3 sale was a glitch
    
    ThickAsThieves: i think 3.0 was the peak
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 7 @ 0.0249 = 0.1743 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 2.435 = 19.48 BTC [+] 
    
    ThickAsThieves: furuknap, while you mentioned repeatedly in text that AM sells hardware and 100TH bonds do not have that benefit, you exclude hardware sales from your outlook numbers. This is misleading, no?
    
    ThickAsThieves: people will gloss over your walls of text
    
    furuknap: No, it's explained just befoire the numbers.
    
    ThickAsThieves: and start making assumptions
    
    furuknap: I can't control what people do. I can only give them the numbers.
    
    ThickAsThieves: you should disclaim within the numbers too
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.0244 = 0.366 BTC [+] 
    
    furuknap: Good point, I'll add a reminder.
    
    ThickAsThieves: because you also argue that the stock of 100TH would be very profitable
    
    ThickAsThieves: yet you dont prove whther it is actually MORE profitable than AM
    
    furuknap: The answer is: it depends :-)
    
    furuknap: It is more profitable in a two-year timeframe with all the assumptions coming true. If any of them don't then all hell breaks loose...
    
    ThickAsThieves: or, it's unlikely
    
    ThickAsThieves: 2years from now
    
    ThickAsThieves: a mining bond will be potentially worthless
    
    ThickAsThieves: likely worthless
    
    furuknap: Not according to the numbers I've run. In 2 years, the bond will have repaid itself many times over and still produce small (ie above US Treasury, but just barely) profits.
    
    fiat500: lmfao
    
    
    
    fiat500: what day is it
    
    ThickAsThieves: you estimated 10% diff increase per month
    
    ThickAsThieves: isnt that a bit modest?
    
    fiat500: (rhetorical question)
    
    furuknap: I used your 20%.
    
    ThickAsThieves: i said 10% per diff
    
    furuknap: Which is 20% per month, no?
    
    ThickAsThieves: there are more than 2 diff change per month
    
    ThickAsThieves: at 10% increase
    
    dub: ;;bc,stats
    
    gribble: Current Blocks: 237919 | Current Difficulty: 1.2153411709775832E7 | Next Difficulty At Block: 239903 | Next Difficulty In: 1984 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 14 hours, 27 minutes, and 22 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11618514.1606 | Estimated Percent Change: -4.40121
    
    ThickAsThieves: see
    
    dub: ;;nethash
    
    gribble: 93661.214259
    
    dub: ;;prevdiff
    
    gribble: 11187257.4614
    
    furuknap: Cool, I'll recalculate with -4.4 instead. We'll be rich in a few days.
    
    furuknap: :-)
    
    ThickAsThieves: lol
    
    ThickAsThieves: the estimate is skewed the first few days
    
    ThickAsThieves: not enough data
    
    furuknap: I know...
    
    ThickAsThieves: more imporatnly, not that it just changed
    
    ThickAsThieves: yet says the next diff will be in 11 days
    
    ThickAsThieves: note*
    
    ThickAsThieves: thats why i said you'd need a formula
    
    furuknap: The difficulty changes every 2016 blocks, no?
    
    furuknap: 2016/(6*24)=14 days.
    
    furuknap: So yeah, there are a few percents off.
    
    dub: would be nice if there was per thread ignore on shitcointalk
    
    dub: I'm going to end up with everyone ignored at this rate
    
    furuknap: Still, 20% is quite high and likley not sustainable.
    
    dub: trying to keep up with actual AM updates
    
    fiat500: http://www.fool.com/fool/free-report/15/rb-jeremy-speaks-297063.aspx?aid=5468&source=erbasltxt0860008
    
    fiat500: jesus, thats desperate
    
    ThickAsThieves: ick
    
    fiat500: http://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/computing/networks/bitcoin-atm-robocoin-makes-money-laundering-easy
    
    fiat500: ^ what a horrific headline
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.0249 = 0.498 BTC [-] 
    
    furuknap: Note: Please remember that these numbers carry with them certain assumptions. These assumptions may or may not hold true, but are required to make any analysis possible. Make sure you evaluate the assumptions and whether they fit your own research.
    
    furuknap: ^^^ Works for you, TAT?
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0244 BTC [-] 
    
    ThickAsThieves: your blog not mine ;)
    
    ThickAsThieves: I'm less verbose than some
    
    furuknap: Well, disclaimer added, for what it's worth.
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4399 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 25 @ 0.0249 = 0.6225 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2447 BTC [+] 
    
    fiat500: ThickAsThieves: what does smiguel mean by this "Blockchain.info network percentage * total network hashrate"
    
    ThickAsThieves: i think i need mre context
    
    fiat500: ooooh, i think he means this http://blockchain.info/pools
    
    fiat500: ThickAsThieves: he pmmed me (not sure if he copied you on it), and he says he gets the solomining rate that way
    
    fiat500: it fits
    
    ThickAsThieves: you could probably track their solved block too
    
    ThickAsThieves: blocks*
    
    ThickAsThieves: do all of the pools they use have n API?
    
    fiat500: hard to estimate hashrate from solved blocks
    
    fiat500: erm, im assuming they do, at the very least it must be possible to parse
    
    fiat500: yeah btcguild has one
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.4399 = 7.3197 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.02459 = 0.1475 BTC [+] 
    
    furuknap: [00:45] <fiat500> hard to estimate hashrate from solved blocks <- Just make something up. That seems to be the way most others do it.
    
    fiat500: LOL
    
    ThickAsThieves: surely you can get a reliable formula
    
    fiat500: its pretty darn impressive tho, that there is a long sequence of blocks solved by ASICminer themselves
    
    ThickAsThieves: it wuld just be off by luck
    
    furuknap: If you're lucky, of course.
    
    fiat500: ThickAsThieves: so +/- 100%?
    
    ThickAsThieves: ;;estimate
    
    gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 12157712.0899 based on data since last change | 13059194.2661 based on data for last three days
    
    furuknap: Approximately :-)
    
    ThickAsThieves: ;;bc,stats
    
    gribble: Current Blocks: 237925 | Current Difficulty: 1.2153411709775832E7 | Next Difficulty At Block: 239903 | Next Difficulty In: 1978 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 20 hours, 15 minutes, and 48 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 12157712.0899 | Estimated Percent Change: 0.03538
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2.4399 = 12.1995 BTC [+] 
    
    furuknap: OMG, it's up from -4.4 to 0.03 in just 30 minutes. At this rate, it will be 7905 PH/s in a year! We're all gonna die!
    
    fiat500: dat extrapolation
    
    fiat500: lies, damned lies
    
    fiat500: and difficulty predictions
    
    furuknap: It's not a lie if I believe it!
    
    furuknap: :-)
    
    
    
    fiat500: jurov: u might be in for a rough ride
    
    fiat500: the july one, june ur fine
    
    jurov: i'll prolly scam TAT then... he has too much money already :P
    
    fiat500: lmfao
    
    furuknap: Damn, I want to short some shares that aren't shortable.
    
    ThickAsThieves: you alredy got my money
    
    jurov: yes, but you expect me to give you more back... if diff goes over 19m
    
    ThickAsThieves: indeed
    
    furuknap: Crypto-trade extended deadline by two hours. One hour left.
    
    ThickAsThieves: lol
    
    furuknap: Why to tech people handle business stuff? They wouldn't want a BA to come in to their data center and start mucking around. Why do they assume that it's OK for them to try it at business?
    
    ThickAsThieves: this is bitcoin
    
    fiat500: because business is common sense
    
    furuknap: It's not Bitcoin, it's everywhere.
    
    furuknap: "Yeah, but we gots skillz". No you don't. You're trained monkeys, just like me. We suck at business and need extensive training to succeed.
    
    fiat500: there are tech people who are colossal morons however
    
    jurov: we know we're morons
    
    jurov: proudly
    
    fiat500: im the biggest one there is
    
    fiat500: hey i found crypto-trade's new slogan http://cdn0.nflximg.net/images/1160/1641160.jpg
    
    jurov: "failure to fail" is better
    
    fiat500: if this were the real world, their stock price would have plumetted three times over by now
    
    ThickAsThieves: if this were the real world no one would have let them IPO
    
    fiat500: but in this fairy tale land of cryptocoin, investors have one of two things
    
    fiat500: infinite faith
    
    fiat500: or infinite stupidity
    
    ThickAsThieves: blind greed
    
    fiat500: i havent sold my shares of crypto-coin, i wonder what that makes me
    
    fiat500: er crypto-trade
    
    jurov: you can exchange them for my ziggap shares :)
    
    jurov: to diversify
    
    fiat500: LMFAO
    
    furuknap: :-D
    
    furuknap: Yeah, I hold a few too. I have a nagging feeling this may be my first loss this month :-(
    
    furuknap: Well, technically, I still had a few SDICE to unload at a slight loss, but I had written that off before the whole US thing burst.
    
    ThickAsThieves: sell em and buy vtx
    
    ThickAsThieves: on havelock
    
    ThickAsThieves: much more likely to succeed than CT
    
    KingCoin: CT?
    
    KingCoin: yeah canadian gov says bitcoin exchanges are okay
    
    furuknap: Yeah... Well, the problem is, I don't understand the exchange business much so I find it extremely hard to evaluate shares. I bought a few more in support of Neotrix than from a hope of profit.
    
    KingCoin: and virtex charges like 3% fees to start
    
    KingCoin: so they are making loot
    
    ThickAsThieves: VTX is also a real world co
    
    fiat500: 23:17 < KingCoin> and virtex charges like 3% fees to start
    
    fiat500: makes me wonder why people still use them?
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.024895 = 0.0996 BTC [-] 
    
    KingCoin: cause for canadians its the quickest option
    
    fiat500: but canada has like 2 people total
    
    furuknap: You only need two to trade.
    
    jurov: lol
    
    KingCoin: well look at their volume last month
    
    fiat500: not bad, 700btc daily volume
    
    KingCoin: the site is not that great though
    
    KingCoin: but you can get some good deals
    
    jurov: there's also https://btcto.com but they show no data
    
    KingCoin: they are not open yet
    
    KingCoin: libertybit.ca is, but volume is low
    
    
    
    KingCoin: another canadian exchange will open and people will move there
    
    KingCoin: fees to high on virtex
    
    fiat500: comparable to bitstamp
    
    fiat500: (not the fees, i mean market-wise)
    
    KingCoin: i want to start a candian exchange
    
    furuknap: Geez, people are bidding ฿25 for a single Jalapeno in hand.
    
    mircea_popescu: who said my name ?
    
    furuknap: <jurov> we know we're morons <- He did.
    
    mircea_popescu: o i c :p
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02459 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5937 @ 0.0007525 = 4.4676 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6263 @ 0.00075257 = 4.7133 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0244 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02436 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.0244 = 0.2196 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 60 @ 0.0243 = 1.458 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.02435 = 0.1948 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.02411 = 0.0723 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.0241 = 0.5543 BTC [-] 
    
    mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
    
    gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 131.12800, Best ask: 131.75700, Bid-ask spread: 0.62900, Last trade: 131.12800, 24 hour volume: 17214.88181096, 24 hour low: 128.20000, 24 hour high: 133.50000, 24 hour vwap: 130.93016
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02459 BTC [+] 
    
    taub: anyone else think mtgox fees are still way too high?
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4399 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2.44 = 12.2 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.02459 = 0.0738 BTC [+] 
    
    jurov: added additional: http://bitbet.us/bet/454/btc-network-difficulty-tops-25-million-by-end/?ref=1EteoRKNYbNhhmFfsKnUSWRF3JUpKCcMnc
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 25 @ 0.000858 = 0.0215 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 200 @ 0.000858 = 0.1716 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 16 @ 0.00335 = 0.0536 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.344 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4749 @ 0.00075155 = 3.5691 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00075132 = 8.6402 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2551 @ 0.00075045 = 1.9144 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.0246 = 0.1968 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000744 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.000744 = 0.0015 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.000745 = 0.0075 BTC [+] 
    
    ericmuyser: KingCoin: I'm satisfied with libertybit
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.000749 = 0.0015 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 99 @ 0.00075 = 0.0743 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 61 @ 0.00075 = 0.0458 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02464 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.02464 = 0.0493 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02464 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 22 @ 0.02464 = 0.5421 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 30 @ 0.0248 = 0.744 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.02464 = 0.3203 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.02464 = 0.0986 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.0248 = 0.248 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7249 @ 0.00075045 = 5.44 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3626 @ 0.00075026 = 2.7204 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.02464 = 0.1725 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.3449 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.0248 = 0.124 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.567999 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.02464 = 0.1232 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 136 @ 0.02465 = 3.3524 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9454 @ 0.00075026 = 7.093 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4646 @ 0.00074994 = 3.4842 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0243 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 40 @ 0.0244 = 0.976 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 24 @ 0.0244 = 0.5856 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.0243 = 0.486 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0243 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.44 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02469 = 0.2469 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7054 @ 0.00074994 = 5.2901 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15746 @ 0.00074926 = 11.7978 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0247 = 0.247 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.00337 = 0.0067 BTC [+] 
    
    cole_albon: ;;bc,24hprc
    
    gribble: Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.01035 = 0.1035 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0246 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.109989 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01747 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.0246 = 0.492 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.017479 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 52 @ 0.0175 = 0.91 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 6 @ 0.0183 = 0.1098 BTC [+] 
    
    mjr___: hi all
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.109989 = 0.44 BTC [+] 
    
    mjr___: check out http://buttonwood.btcshares.com
    
    mjr___: i just added a bunch of new features
    
    mjr___: i think its pretty cool
    
    mjr___: or at least getting there
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4335 @ 0.00074926 = 3.248 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00074786 = 4.7115 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6168 @ 0.00074735 = 4.6097 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00074707 = 4.856 BTC [-] 
    
    parseval: Submitting things doesn't work
    
    parseval: either the bid or the ask
    
    parseval: and there's not really any benefit to signing in
    
    parseval: But it looks nice
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 9 @ 0.0101 = 0.0909 BTC [-] 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 30 @ 0.0246 = 0.738 BTC [+] 
    
    mjr___: parseval
    
    mjr___: huh?
    
    mjr___: you have to sign in to place orderse
    
    mjr___: you might have pop up blocked or something cuz it alerts you to that
    
    mjr___: if not signed in, it'll say "you must be logged in to place orders"
    
    mjr___: if no price or size "need price and size"
    
    mjr___: you have to create an account
    
    mjr___: facebook, etc isn't working yet
    
    mjr___: i may remove those for now
    
    parseval: Yeah, I signed in
    
    parseval: Must be because I used twitter..  oh well
    
    mjr___: no prob
    
    mjr___: yeah, you have to create an account for it to work
    
    mjr___: i will remove those other options for now
    
    ericmuyser: mjr___: what's this written in?
    
    ericmuyser: PHP?
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 23 @ 0.0246 = 0.5658 BTC [+] 
    
    mjr___: lol no
    
    mjr___: its all js
    
    mjr___: using the coolest new framework
    
    mjr___: meteor
    
    mjr___: based on mongo and node
    
    mjr___: there I removed facebook, google and twitter
    
    mjr___: for now
    
    mjr___: but if you sign in, you will see the cool features
    
    mjr___: if you are on the page, i will show you me pressing the update buttons
    
    mjr___: its sub second updates across all devices as far as i've seen
    
    Chaaang-Noi: zup all
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0246 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02481 = 0.2481 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.02498 = 0.1998 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.024989 = 0.3748 BTC [+] 
    
    assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.02499 = 0.1 BTC [+]