assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0051 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 135.10001, Best ask: 135.19900, Bid-ask spread: 0.09899, Last trade: 135.10000, 24 hour volume: 26423.91159310, 24 hour low: 129.02000, 24 hour high: 136.68000, 24 hour vwap: 134.04095
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.100005 = 1.0001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4278 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2651 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.265 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.261 = 5.044 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.24 = 2.48 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.22 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.21 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.2 = 3.6 BTC [-]
gribble: mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 51 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> right.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00070324 = 4.5007 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00070324 = 5.7666 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00070324 = 5.7666 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: im shocked very shocked by the amount of press btc has gotten
taub: is that mtux? giving the interview on a cyan gymnastic ball
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13858 @ 0.00069366 = 9.6127 BTC [-]
b0n1: KRS-1, what article do you mean?
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4278 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00069806 = 3.3856 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4743 @ 0.00070297 = 3.3342 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 143 @ 0.00070377 = 0.1006 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.32000001 = 3.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 90 @ 0.32 = 28.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 408 @ 0.003 = 1.224 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3107 @ 0.00070377 = 2.1866 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3066 @ 0.00070885 = 2.1733 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00071443 = 1.7146 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00071488 = 3.5744 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3277 @ 0.000715 = 2.3431 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4278 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.428 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 28 @ 0.016 = 0.448 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00069366 = 6.0695 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0051 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 81 @ 0.01 = 0.81 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 89 @ 0.01 = 0.89 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.27 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00329 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: still wondering if I want to bid on those units
b0n1: Diablo-D3, which units?
Diablo-D3: they cant pay for themselves in 2 months anymore
davout: how much are they being sold for ?
Diablo-D3: current bids are heading up towards 40 btc
davout: for which kind of hashrate ?
davout: thanks! i'll have a look
Chaang-Noi: d3 you think that auction will get into the 60s?
Diablo-D3: Chaang-Noi: yes, I just said exactly that in the htread
Diablo-D3: look at the previous auction, it jumped like 30 btc during the last few hours
Chaang-Noi: well time will tell but id make a bet we dont go into the 60s :)
Diablo-D3: its probably not going to clear 70
Chaang-Noi: mp that guy in finland just bought 700 more btc at 134.5 he said
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.00329 = 0.0099 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: i wonder what his average buy in price is
Chaang-Noi: but still, long term i bet he does well
mircea_popescu: well it's impossible to know. if he were sane then i'm sure he'd do well. has a silver business or w/e, bought some btc, sounds good
Chaang-Noi: i sold him the coin, i wanted to call his bluff, i did not think he had the fiat
Chaang-Noi: so we will see if the fiat comes in, if not lu;z will be had
Chaang-Noi: he is going to send first, if/when i get the money i send btc
mircea_popescu: it's funny cause that's the first roast beast i've seen with the hair still on.
Chaang-Noi: so either he does send and we ahve a good trade or he does not send and i make some lulz
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: s/roast beast/long pig/
Chaang-Noi: You don't have permission to access /dtng/c/src/133475342584.jpg on this server.
Chaang-Noi: Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
Chaang-Noi: im happy he is sending directly to me in thailand
Chaang-Noi: its synamic, or changes or what not, but i doubt many people here in thailand post on your blog
Chaang-Noi: not a big deal, but your site rejects me about 255 of the time for some odd reason
DiabloD3: mircea_popescu: since when did you enjoy cannibalism art?
PsychoticBoy: so whats up with the insane amount of btc ppl paying for ASICMINER eruptor blades??
DiabloD3: Im a stock holder and Im happy
PsychoticBoy: I have 500 shares and I am happy only thing is, they (the buyers ) are stupid
Chaang-Noi: am should sell as many as they can now before bfl fixes their shit
PsychoticBoy: but why should someone pay 40+ btc for a 10Gh/s miner? does it mean I can sell my 15Gh/s farm for 60+ btc? dont think so
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.297 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: asics as ytou know are awesome cuz energy use
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2979 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.298 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 11 @ 0.01 = 0.11 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.01 = 0.03 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.298 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: well... that finland guy is suposidly sending me 1`00k with no paperwork
Scrat: any loan over 100 btc should require sexual favors for life
Chaang-Noi: i guess i just dont know enought about bitcoin 24
davout: it's actually noon in europe
davout: oh, sorry you weren't talking about europe
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu was last awake around the time Game of Thrones was on
Scrat: thestringpuller: it was a good ep
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.10629 = 0.5315 BTC [+]
DiabloD3: another reason not to use python
thestringpuller: But it takes a long time to learn, and a long time to use.
DiabloD3: although rust is looking pretty nifty
thestringpuller: You probably love C because it's more granular to optimize no?
Scrat: he loves C because he is into BDSM
Scrat: no other reason really
DiabloD3: I like C because it doesn't enforce broken behavior
DiabloD3: although I _really_ wish I didn't have to basically ignore the libc
DiabloD3: too much stuff written in C is thread safe
Scrat: i don't know why would anyone code in C anymore, unless they absolutely had to
DiabloD3: Scrat: because all other languages suck
DiabloD3: evernote:///view/30460238/s248/c188c52a-3db4-46c1-84d8-1a38d5b93181/c188c52a-3db4-46c1-84d8-1a38d5b93181/
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.016 = 0.032 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 8 @ 0.0164 = 0.1312 BTC [+]
DiabloD3: there, find me a language that does all of that
KRS-1: some of this would be blasphemy in to java
DiabloD3: yes, java is one of those languages that are wrong.
KRS-1: so are a lot of the java developers i've had to work with
Scrat: I think there are more important matters, for example why the fuck would you have to use an external lib to have simple things like hash maps?
Scrat: hurrr static typing
KRS-1: like..you hack code for a living?? really? never seen such people that don't take pride in their code in my life
DiabloD3: Scrat: well, with C, I'm working on a library that isnt just fucking shit.
KRS-1: where I work I have to support dev teams..some of the crap I've seen will make you cringe.
KRS-1: C is amazing..and been around a while..probably will be.
KRS-1: I never could grasp assembly though
KRS-1: its too primitive for me
Scrat: it will be around forever, probably like 90% of internet infrastructure is written in C
Scrat: DiabloD3 just had an embolism when I added the ++
Scrat: he is also a boost hater, and I'll agree with him there
Scrat: but it's needed to cover the suck
KRS-1: haha u have a cool way of putting things
DiabloD3: Scrat: thats why you dont use a shitty language to begin wtih
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00069685 = 1.2543 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 365 @ 0.00069366 = 0.2532 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: 28 years? the last time i heard about that or a differnt story they only got 2 years each
jurov: i like C. Except for string operations where I need pen and paper to visualize where the pointers end up.
jurov: wtf is "juvenile-prison developer"?
jurov: oh, there is such a vocation in US nao?
Chaang-Noi: that page wont load for me, but im going to guess this is in the usa?
jurov: Chaang-Noi: just wait, takes time
Chaang-Noi: Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete.
Chaang-Noi: HTTP Error 503. The service is unavailable.
Chaang-Noi: i heard about this but thought the judges only got 2 years
Chaang-Noi: i saw a documentry on the prision system of the usa and they had a bit on this place
Chaang-Noi: one boy got 10 months for tossing a steak at his dad
KRS-1: wtf i was dead wrong on market price everything i looked at told me it was supposed to go down
KRS-1: i was seeing bouncing cat at first then rising wedge..this must be hype?
KRS-1: so mid day dip maybe
Chaang-Noi: there is a lot and lot of money pouring into btc now
Chaang-Noi: also i just sold 700 btc so there is that too:) it goes up if i sell
KRS-1: thanks a lot chaang-noi :P
KRS-1: no biggie i've been doing ok
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 142.50000, Best ask: 142.96302, Bid-ask spread: 0.46302, Last trade: 142.50000, 24 hour volume: 38895.80757496, 24 hour low: 131.52300, 24 hour high: 143.00000, 24 hour vwap: 136.06785
Uglux: you sold 700 coins to rpietila? ^^
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00069113 = 6.9113 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00069036 = 0.863 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 2 @ 0.00072 = 0.0014 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 98 @ 0.00072 = 0.0706 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1199 @ 0.00067649 = 0.8111 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.000651 = 0.0065 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 466 @ 0.003 = 1.398 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 6 @ 0.00991 = 0.0595 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 34 @ 0.009901 = 0.3366 BTC [-]
gribble: targets: 150, 160-164 | resistance: 136, 140 | support: 120, 118-114, 106-103 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 28 2013, 00:29 UTC ( tips:
http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer:
http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 1 day, 11 hours, 39 minutes, and 31 seconds ago
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 25 @ 0.000651 = 0.0163 BTC [+]
gribble: There are currently 11295.425 bitcoins offered at or under 151.0 USD, worth 1664369.15133 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0038 seconds
gribble: There are currently 27969.246 bitcoins demanded at or over 122.0 USD, worth 3617338.10143 USD in total. | Data vintage: 15.3214 seconds
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.002755 = 0.2755 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Explosion shakes central Prague, as many as 40 injured
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.321 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 143.32440, Best ask: 143.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.57560, Last trade: 143.32440, 24 hour volume: 42689.49700892, 24 hour low: 131.52300, 24 hour high: 143.99000, 24 hour vwap: 136.88480
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 6 @ 0.013 = 0.078 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 145.11000, Best ask: 145.11110, Bid-ask spread: 0.00110, Last trade: 145.11000, 24 hour volume: 47306.16273368, 24 hour low: 131.52300, 24 hour high: 146.56373, 24 hour vwap: 137.70079
kakobrekla: 145 leads to 150 which leads to 160 which leads to 170
ThickAsThieves: ;;later tell Namworld please pm when you have a couple minutes, thanks!
gribble: bowjob was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 13 hours, 39 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <bowjob> lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.32 = 3.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10860 @ 0.00067147 = 7.2922 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42006 @ 0.00068157 = 28.63 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15508 @ 0.00068592 = 10.6372 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27935 @ 0.00069141 = 19.3145 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.00069621 = 8.6678 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2101 @ 0.00069808 = 1.4667 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C140T] 200 @ 0.14768654 = 29.5373 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.103 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4811 = 4.811 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 35 @ 0.4812 = 16.842 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 12 @ 0.482 = 5.784 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 29 @ 0.32 = 9.28 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 146.34300, Best ask: 146.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.65699, Last trade: 146.99999, 24 hour volume: 58139.03194207, 24 hour low: 131.52300, 24 hour high: 149.08000, 24 hour vwap: 139.47241
gribble: MtGox lag is 19.402332 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0388820560887 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).
gribble: MtGox lag is 55.095492 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.110410749088 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
error4733: Monday shitstorm !! Goooooooooo ! i need more cheap coin !
gribble: MtGox lag is 0.963318 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00193047848615 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
error4733: always a little hope when i see 1m lag !
gribble: There are currently 4.4809135e+08 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 20282289.5227 USD in total. | Data vintage: 11.9629 seconds
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 6 @ 0.010025 = 0.0602 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 15 @ 0.010025 = 0.1504 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.010025 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.010026 = 0.0301 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00338 BTC [+]
davout: kakobrekla: you found how to wake mircea_popescu up
kakobrekla: heh, i shared my access and apparently their site doesnt work with chrome but it works with ie
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22799 @ 0.00069808 = 15.9155 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: A maximum of 2 positions may be opened in both directions. This is not recommended unless it is part of a hedging strategy.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14433 @ 0.0007083 = 10.2229 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Even after seven years of nonstop media hype, only 16 percent of Internet users tweet, the same as the percentage of 14-49-year-olds who have genital herpes. The difference being that the latter are not proud of their affliction, while the former never shut up about theirs.
kakobrekla: gential herpes is more successful than twitter
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.7798 = 3.5596 BTC [+]
lippoper1: and genital herpes has no advertisements
orkaa: should I safely assume that no one on twitter has genital herpes?
orkaa: that would be liberating to hear
DiabloD3: wait I wonder if Im on that list
DiabloD3: seeing as I am an independent analyst for the bitcoin community
mircea_popescu: and incidentally, i have no idea how i forgot this one
gribble: Error: In order to authenticate, you must be present in one of the following channels: #bitcoin-otc;#bitcoin-otc-foyer;#bitcoin-otc-ru;#bitcoin-otc-eu;#bitcoin-otc-uk;#bitcoin-otc-ar;#bitcoin-otc-africa;#bitcoin-otc-bans;#bitcoin-dev;#gribble
DiabloD3: seriously, like, Ive gotten emails from people from a dozen major sites over the last month
DiabloD3: trying to clarify points for upcoming bitcoin stories
mircea_popescu: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:5ea2c50bc98b76e6ca36337ca6830abc919267f94dd8780773123bda
gribble: You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
DiabloD3: nanotube: add #bitcoin-assets to that list of authentication channels
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user Luke-Jr has changed from 1 to -1.
DiabloD3: mircea_popescu: you know what that cunt did recently?
DiabloD3: because I was telling the truth about BFL when someone asked me
mircea_popescu: i'm all for it, the bfl/gigavps/lukeetc troop wish to be publicly humiliated,
mircea_popescu: there's plenty of public humiliation to drown them in.
DiabloD3: I dont even care if they ship anymore
mircea_popescu: the only thing people fail to graps in time is that i am not done when they can't take it anymore,
DiabloD3: asicminer is in the process of dealing with their 200TH batch
DiabloD3: the 200TH will be sold, shipped, and mining by the time BFL starts shipping en masse
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3001 @ 0.00070612 = 2.1191 BTC [-]
DiabloD3: I think I may just wait for the next round
Luke-Jr: ;;rate mircea_popescu -2 Delusional troll. I wouldn't trust him with a penny.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mircea_popescu has changed from -2 to -2.
gribble: (eauth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered a GPG key with the bot for this to work. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes.
error4733: 75 btc for first #, expect 45/55 for this one
lippoper1: Luke-Jr, is that the guy calling litecoin 51% attacked?
mircea_popescu: or w/e, sold it after driving it into the ground/gave it away/we.
gribble: (everify <otp>) -- Verify the latest encrypt-authentication request by providing your decrypted one-time password. If verified, you'll be authenticated for the duration of the bot's or your IRC session on channel (whichever is shorter).
gribble: Error: Incorrect one-time password. Try again.
Scrat: you already authed
DiabloD3: Im already authed so I dont give a fuck.
gribble: Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
gribble: Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
gribble: Nick 'DiabloD3', with hostmask 'DiabloD3!~diablo@pool-70-16-101-85.port.east.myfairpoint.net', is identified as user Diablo-D3, with GPG key id 85C235C280C197A4, key fingerprint 16D15E73E75E4BF688E4F2A685C235C280C197A4, and bitcoin address None
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: I know about that, what about it?
lippoper1: you're the one starting that thread, what do you know about it? or where can i read up on it?
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user Luke-Jr has been recorded.
lippoper1: i said poor Luke-Jr, cause mircea said you lost your pool or something
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask Luke-Jr!~luke-jr@2001:470:5:265:222:4dff:fe50:4c49 . User luke-jr, rated since Sat Feb 5 10:37:04 2011. Cumulative rating 12, from 67 total ratings. Received ratings: 53 positive, 14 negative. Sent ratings: 49 positive, 26 negative. Details:
http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=luke-jr
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: not at all, it's running great; I just don't have time for it, so I passed it on
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask Diablo-D3!~diablo@pool-70-16-101-85.port.east.myfairpoint.net . User Diablo-D3, rated since Mon Apr 25 11:54:20 2011. Cumulative rating 10, from 9 total ratings. Received ratings: 7 positive, 2 negative. Sent ratings: 5 positive, 1 negative. Details:
http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Diablo-D3
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: I didn't start that thread..
Luke-Jr: no, I didn't know it existed until you said something lol
Diablo-D3: because lol supa thinks I can ban people on bitcointalk
Scrat: nanotube, and he won't remove ratings
gribble: Nick 'PsychoticBoy', with hostmask 'PsychoticBoy!~Psychotic@pdpc/supporter/active/psychoticboy', is identified as user PsychoticBoy, with GPG key id 06DC71AFE4DAC520, key fingerprint 9E476C16F877E988110787BC06DC71AFE4DAC520, and bitcoin address None
Diablo-D3: nanotube: remove the ratings from luke and supa.
Scrat: he won't and he never has. it's against his policy
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask PsychoticBoy!~Psychotic@pdpc/supporter/active/psychoticboy . User PsychoticBoy, rated since Tue May 1 12:39:15 2012. Cumulative rating 11, from 5 total ratings. Received ratings: 4 positive, 1 negative. Sent ratings: 4 positive, 0 negative. Details:
http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=PsychoticBoy
Luke-Jr: Diablo-D3: remove the ratings yourself
Diablo-D3: really? you +q'ed me in mining because I told the truth about BFL being a scam
Luke-Jr: well, supa's ratings are probably lies too, but not my concern
Luke-Jr: Diablo-D3: because you lie
Diablo-D3: even if they ship now, its too late
Diablo-D3: they cant undo the fact they're a scam
Diablo-D3: they can ship thousands of TH, and its too late
mircea_popescu: that's quite besides the point anyway. bitcoin mining isd about mining.
Luke-Jr: and they never were a scam
mircea_popescu: whether he's an idiot or not, Diablo-D3 still is part of bitcoin mining.
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: doesn't give him the right to slander others
Luke-Jr: I already told Diablo-D3 I'd remove the +q if he promised to stop that
Diablo-D3: how is it slander? I asked BFL repeatedly to prove there was development going on
mircea_popescu: no, you don't have the "right" to come up with offences.
ThickAsThieves: what do youc all sitting on people's money for a year, if not a scam?
mircea_popescu: whoever perceives they were "Slandered" is welcome to go to the courts.
Luke-Jr: Diablo-D3: BFL has no obligation to prove anything to you
mircea_popescu: that's where slander has a meaning. here, it's meaningless.
Diablo-D3: if BFL wants the community's money yes they fucking do
Diablo-D3: as a founding member of this community, I have a fucking right to ask the questions.
Luke-Jr: Diablo-D3: you don't represent the community
mircea_popescu: this is a little ridiculous, we're arguing with some random lunatic who got a sandwich
mircea_popescu: so now he's going to what, spend his worthless time barking.
Diablo-D3: see, this is why I put people on ignore
lippoper1: they're jalapenos are nothing more than 6 fpgas running together
Scrat: this is so good, waiting for tiberiusiv to join in
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: 6 FPGAs don't use 30 W
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 he'd be on my ignore but normally he has the sense to stfu here so i never bothered.
kakobrekla: Diablo-D3 whats the point, its the end of the world in 2016 isnt it so?
Diablo-D3: kakobrekla: I was kidding about that.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: yeah, but everyone forgets to add 3.5 years on top of that
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: also, my ASIC runs at 28 Gh/s, explain that
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: the reign of satan will be 3.5 years, as long as jesus's ministry
mircea_popescu: to quote missy-pr, This thread is epic. Calling all neckbeards (jgarzick, gmaxwell, puke-jr &co): YOU FAIL
mircea_popescu: This is because you suck. You're not good enough. The only option you have is exactly how much public humiliation comes with your failure.
lippoper1: i want a youtube video of the whole thing running, no hidden cables, no hidden outlets
lippoper1: no cables that run off the field of view
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: hows this, pay me a thousand BTC, Ill just create a better coin
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: too bad, I don't have the time to get anywhere near that clean
mircea_popescu: this one is fine. so various idiots inexplicably think they matter in the contexrt. so ?
Diablo-D3: because BFL morons wont be able to mine on it.
Diablo-D3: ThickAsThieves: mircea_popescu has more BTC than dollars.
lippoper1: i just want to see a non edited video of the thing in action
ThickAsThieves: i'm skeptical that mp doesnt have plenty fiat to match
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: there's plenty of those on the web now
lippoper1: and you follow the cables, haven't seen that in any of the 'unboxing' and whatnot videos
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: enmaku even has a teardown video
lippoper1: in exchange they gave you an ASIC?
Diablo-D3: Luke-Jr: then by all means, post the fucking URL.
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: I bought my ASICs.
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.199199 BTC [-]
Luke-Jr: Diablo-D3: screw you, learn to google
lippoper1: sure, but yet you don't have any proof of it
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1992 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: Luke-Jr: but you're the one claiming it exists
Luke-Jr: Diablo-D3: it does. proving it to you is not my problem.
Diablo-D3: Nice Christian attitude there, bud.
Luke-Jr: I couldn't care less if you believe it or not.
Diablo-D3: dude, I have a DiabloCoin ASIC miner
Diablo-D3: and I havent even written DiabloCoin yet
lippoper1: oh you don't believe me, that's too bad, it's not my burden to provide you proof
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: yep, I don't believe you. too bad.
lippoper1: fine Luke-Jr., I don't have to prove it to you
Luke-Jr: I'll just go on not believing you.
lippoper1: but don't call me a liar or a scam artist for taking everyone's money for it
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: you know whats funny?
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: the difference is, the proof of BFL's ASICs exists. Diablo-D3 is just too lazy to look in obvious places for it
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: I wrote DiabloMiner, con ported it to C as cgminer, then Luke-Jr forked it because con didnt want to merge his shitty patches
lippoper1: I've looked at the so called proof
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: in other words, Luke-Jr's only fame relies on code I wrote.
lippoper1: i don't believe it, because they have hidden cables running behind the fucking laptop
mircea_popescu: ya well. the hope is that after another decade or so of getting people coffee he learns to code.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: that will probably never happen
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: fine, then don't believe it. your problem, not mine.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: really, the best programmers in the world all started young
lippoper1: either wya, it doesn't bother me one bit
kakobrekla: am i still a neckbard if i shave, just like you can be a chinese and a nigger.
Luke-Jr: I'm 28, and have been programming since 6 or 7
Diablo-D3: so why the fuck do you still suck at it?
mircea_popescu: how long since you've not been taking your pills would be more interesting.
ezdiy: mp, didnt know you host a talkshow for neckbeards :(
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: ask luke about the catholic church
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: only delusional people such as yourself have pills
Diablo-D3: <luke> I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE, BUT WHAT AM I
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: he must have a fucking phd in that
lippoper1: ok, Diablo-D3, since you're amazing and all, can we start DiabloCoin?
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.000651 = 0.0013 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: lippoper1: no, probably Ill use scrypt correctly
Scrat: mircea_popescu: don't think there are any rednecks here
Diablo-D3: proof litecoin sucks dick: you can mine it on gpus.
Scrat: lippoper1: I've been saying this for months... someone with a clue needs to start an altcoin
Scrat: might as well be diablocoin
Diablo-D3: Scrat: Im seriously considering it
Diablo-D3: Im just not sure I want to sink that much time into it
lippoper1: scrypt is cool but can't we just mine that with GPUs now?
Diablo-D3: lippoper1: no, litecoin uses scrypt wrong
Diablo-D3: but yeah, I want to see a return of cpu mining
Diablo-D3: make gpus, fpgas, and asics impossible for the long term
kakobrekla: BFL Bitcoin ASIC Teardown, related: How to make caramel
ezdiy: Diablo-D3: timekoin >:)
Diablo-D3: ezdiy: but only the Doctor would have a use for that
ezdiy: 17:32 < Diablo-D3> make gpus, fpgas, and asics impossible for the long term
ezdiy: fills the bill tho
Luke-Jr: lippoper1: you should use my altcoin
Diablo-D3: Im probably going to name it after a planet
imsaguy: ThickAsThieves: newcoin isn't taken yet
Diablo-D3: probably something lol like MarsCoin
BTCOxygen: Luke-Jr: Whats the name of your altcoin?
Diablo-D3: software written explicitly for upcoming mars colonization missions
ezdiy: Luke-Jr uses religious names
Luke-Jr: Chaang-Noi: yep, the very first one ever
Diablo-D3: rewards will be low and never decrease
imsaguy: [2013/04/29 10:07:45] <+gribble> Rating change | Old rating 1 | New rating: luke-jr > -1 > diablo-d3 | I advanced him 8 BTC in exchange for 16 BTC worth of shares in the DMC IPO. But in conversation lately, he's been exceedingly dishonest, so I dunno..
imsaguy: [2013/04/29 10:10:56] <+gribble> New rating | Diablo-D3 > -10 > Luke-Jr | Known troll.
Diablo-D3: imsaguy: yeah, and luke still owns those DMC shares too
Diablo-D3: actually, lets just call it peniscoin
Diablo-D3: if we're going to troll, might as well push it up to 11
Diablo-D3: but yeah, we clearly need a silver to go with bitcoin's gold
Diablo-D3: it never took off and it has no value
lippoper1: And we definitely need a Baryllium to the silver and gold coins
ezdiy: i think you need decent following to start a coin, so basically only contenders are RpiCoin and MPCoin
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11302 @ 0.00068056 = 7.6917 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: constant inflation, but the % of inflation decreases over time
Diablo-D3: use of network coding techniques to decrease the time of data dissemination
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2785 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2787 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: imsaguy: no, I save eating pussy for dessert.
imsaguy: So what happens when bfl finally starts shipping in any sort of recognizable quantity
Uglux: this is not a tech race (yet) more a delivery time race
Diablo-D3: [11:50:53] <imsaguy> will it kill asicminer?
Diablo-D3: asicminer will have 200th in customer's hands before bfl starts shipping en masse
Diablo-D3: if anything, BFL might as well just declare bankruptcy right now
Diablo-D3: and they're already working on a next generation process
Diablo-D3: friedcat is going to be mad with me now =/
Uglux: INSIDER TRADING :>
imsaguy: Well, they'd be stupid to not be working on a next generation process
lippoper1: seriously Diablo, you need to make the new altcoin
Uglux: will you guys buy alibaba stocks?
lippoper1: please put Feathercoin out of its misery
Diablo-D3: I keep hearing people talk about that
lippoper1: there is no improvement or anything else to it.
lippoper1: yes, that's why i'm serious about you making a serious altcoin
lippoper1: with the support of the community and some actual improvements over what litecoin does now, i think it would take off eventually
lippoper1: these clones of litecoin like feathercoin/novacoin are a joke to me
lippoper1: butterflylabs support forum golden quote of the day: "at this point I think it's safe to expect my jalapeno could arrive around the same time as the rapture and the second coming of Christ."
ThickAsThieves: if you want a good altcoin, you need a good name, minimal pre-mining, GPU mining, and support from at least one decent exchange
Diablo-D3: lippoper1: you know whats funny? the rapture is not supported by the bible
jurov: Luke-Jr: if BFL is real, why no one buys difficulty future anymore?
ThickAsThieves: it also wouldnt hurt to ding the confidence of litecoin somehow
jurov: the prices are below bfl pudits estimations.
jurov: or, let's agree about collateral and undercut me, go on
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 143.95000, Best ask: 143.96799, Bid-ask spread: 0.01799, Last trade: 143.96800, 24 hour volume: 65651.97862618, 24 hour low: 131.52300, 24 hour high: 149.08000, 24 hour vwap: 140.87244
jurov: ThickAsThieves, they are covered only up to 0.14 btc (no one knows for sure, tho)
jurov: so, not so much attractive
ThickAsThieves: i'm not saying your pricing is unreasonable, so much as priced perfectly above the likely hashrate
gribble: Current Blocks: 233770 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 85 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 11 hours, 20 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 10068449.7588 | Estimated Percent Change: 12.19208
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 10068449.7588 based on data since last change | 10600052.17 based on data for last three days
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 143.80000, Best ask: 143.92220, Bid-ask spread: 0.12220, Last trade: 143.80000, 24 hour volume: 65712.09897859, 24 hour low: 131.52300, 24 hour high: 149.08000, 24 hour vwap: 140.88260
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.32 = 3.2 BTC [-]
jurov: and i'm selling iDiff-E for 26m satoshi only
jurov: shhhh ThickAsThieves
ThickAsThieves: there will be a about 5 diff changes before the 19th (excluding tomorrow's maybe)
jurov: yes, i'll prolly update it tomorrow
Chilca: mircea_popescu: good morning
Chilca: do not understand what you sent me
assbot: [HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.43990000 / 0.467525 / 0.48200000 (144 shares, 67.32360002 BTC), 7D: 0.40001000 / 0.45536846 / 0.49750000 (1346 shares, 612.92594387 BTC), 30D: 0.18000000 / 0.40162429 / 0.61488800 (6309 shares, 2533.84767053 BTC)
Chilca: mircea_popescu: Great, will read it now!! thanks for share it.
jurov: trying to figure out, did not use it before
orkaa: i see a slovenian page
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 648 @ 0.00067673 = 0.4385 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7799 BTC [+]
jurov: it's multinational, CFDs trading.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16019 @ 0.00068914 = 11.0393 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43417 @ 0.0007083 = 30.7523 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23566 @ 0.00071 = 16.7319 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.8 = 3.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86998 @ 0.00071 = 61.7686 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00071488 = 3.5744 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6723 @ 0.000715 = 4.8069 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4353 @ 0.00071588 = 3.1162 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00071598 = 12.6728 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5546 @ 0.00071609 = 3.9714 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00071814 = 1.0054 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00072 = 18 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.33479999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.492 = 0.984 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2769 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00072 = 5.904 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: why does mpoe have so much buying and selling action all the time?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.277 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C134T] 10 @ 0.36831645 = 3.6832 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.P143T] 5 @ 0.49704849 = 2.4852 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29479 @ 0.00072 = 21.2249 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 463 @ 0.000651 = 0.3014 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 27 @ 0.003 = 0.081 BTC [-]
PsychoticBoy: ThickAsThieves> why does mpoe have so much buying and selling action all the time?
Diablo-D3: about an hour until the auction is done
Diablo-D3: I still may consider bidding on a single unit
Diablo-D3: ThickAsThieves: LOTS of snipes last time
Diablo-D3: it was above 70 for all of the 10 boards
mircea_popescu: " changing your pass w/o the need of need to know the current one" da fuck ?!
Diablo-D3: I think it might make it into the 60s
ThickAsThieves: i like how he's including a free rack with purchase of 10
ThickAsThieves: firedcat was all like OMG when he saw those guys running theirs flat on a table
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11254 @ 0.00072 = 8.1029 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100000 @ 0.00072 = 72 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: ThickAsThieves: actually, that was because of me
Diablo-D3: I said in the thread I'd consider continued bidding if I get a rack if I bid on 10
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.32 = 3.2 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: but prices are just way beyond what Im willing to bid on
error4733: ok take those $70k but give me a rack
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 141.27000, Best ask: 141.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03000, Last trade: 141.27000, 24 hour volume: 68300.17959196, 24 hour low: 131.52300, 24 hour high: 149.08000, 24 hour vwap: 141.22923
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: O.USD.C140T Bids: ['1000 @ 0.16376342', '1000 @ 0.16376342', '1000 @ 0.16376342']
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.33695048', '1000 @ 0.33695048', '1000 @ 0.33695048']
ThickAsThieves: how did this happen: [08:58] <@assbot> [MPEX] [O.USD.C140T] 200 @ 0.14768654 = 29.5373 BTC [-]
lippoper1: Diablo what auction, what's for sale?
mircea_popescu: Bang With Friends, the popular app that helps facilitate one-night stands with your Facebook friends, is reportedly raising a ~$1 million seed round, according to Business Insider.
lippoper1: 7. Is the blades compatible with P2Pool?
lippoper1: Our blades implements only the diff 1 getwork protocol. So p2pool is possible, but should be with proxies.
lippoper1: Wtf, does that mean it doesn't support stratum ;-)
lippoper1: cheapest blade available is at 41.5/42
lippoper1: that's like a lifetime to break even
topace: yea each blade is 10gh
lippoper1: only 3 months to pay off if network difficulty remained the same
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4554 = 2.277 BTC [-]
gribble: The expected generation output, at 10000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 0.560385478255 BTC per day and 0.0233493949273 BTC per hour.
error4733: The next auction's most probably on USB stick miners, in a week. (the 300mhz type. Tongue)
error4733: Be rest assured that the blades aren't coming again so soon. Smiley
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 10099802.9685 based on data since last change | 10607627.5042 based on data for last three days
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8208 @ 0.00072 = 5.9098 BTC [+]
ll: ;;genrate 10000 10099803
gribble: The expected generation output, at 10000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 10099803.0, is 0.497936956227 BTC per day and 0.0207473731761 BTC per hour.
topace: Diablo-D3: are you buying some blades? seems pricey at only 10GH for 45+ BTC
Diablo-D3: topace: I have no active bids on that
topace: very politically correct answer...
topace: going to bid with 3 seconds to spare? :p
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.276334 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: I could reasonably make back 30 BTC in 2 months no matter how fast BFL ships units
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00072 = 18 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: waitll you see how absurd budding gets for the USB miners
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 37 @ 0.00338 = 0.1251 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: I wonder if anyone makes a powered usb hub that can handle high power requirements
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8318 @ 0.00072251 = 6.0098 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: ThickAsThieves: those I'd probably do a blanket bid on all of them 1 BTC each
Diablo-D3: that does 0.5 amps per plug for all 7
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.000725 = 18.125 BTC [+]
Uglux: how long does friedcat usually need for a share transfer?
Diablo-D3: Uglux: usually before the next dividend payment
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 15 @ 0.00338 = 0.0507 BTC [+]
Uglux: its the goldrush :)
mircea_popescu: ddue wtf, a 10gh itam is never mining two full blocks.
gribble: The expected generation output, at 10000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 0.560385478255 BTC per day and 0.0233493949273 BTC per hour.
PsychoticBoy: lets say 0.5 a day for the next 2 weeks, after that 0.45 btc for 2 weeks hmmmn
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.00338 = 0.338 BTC [+]
louong: but you get them now vs. (unknown time) with Avalon/BFL
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: was it you that said we wouldnt cross 50?
louong: part of the price includes the certainty
lippoper1: did you also lose them day trading?
Diablo-D3: lippoper1: why should I have more?
Diablo-D3: PsychoticBoy: no, I sold 371 shares of ASICMINER
lippoper1: You're a great part of the community, I would just assume you probably had more than 480'ish
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.276334 = 2.5527 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: lippoper1: I dont buy BTC, but I accept donations.
lippoper1: well, when you make our new Alt Coin, i will donate some DiabloCoins to you
ThickAsThieves: loppoper1, support your community send us all donations
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2768 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.277 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: lippoper1: DiabloMiner probably hasnt even paid for itself
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.278 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: if you realize that a programmer with my skills could get paid $100+/hr
Diablo-D3: ThickAsThieves: I dont IRC as much as I used to
Diablo-D3: PsychoticBoy: its not that I dont work
Diablo-D3: PsychoticBoy: its just I dont like working as a programmer fulltime
PsychoticBoy: I have a day time job although I dont need one
Diablo-D3: bosses tend to not understand the art
joecool: you just diversify your channels on IRC more to make it look like you talk less (but in reality you just talk more in more places)
lippoper1: That's why you need to program something you love
lippoper1: like a new Alt Coin with its own proprietary miner
Diablo-D3: well, my alt coin would be cpu only
PsychoticBoy: one blow and all your feathercoins are gone lol
lippoper1: you can't even keep them in a pillowcase without them flying out somehow
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.016 = 0.16 BTC [+]
benkay: bosses want like 40 hours per week out of programmers
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.285 = 5.14 BTC [+]
benkay: but I find an upper limit on my creative productivity at like 32
Diablo-D3: I program _more_ than 40 hours a week
benkay: you probably also spend more time programming than I do
Diablo-D3: dont expect me to be doing anything than thinking about the problem for that.
benkay: i spend most of my time learning
Diablo-D3: btw, Ive found something rather productive
lippoper1: let's make an alt coin with some benefits
lippoper1: that sounds like a great Diablo programmer task
Diablo-D3: benkay: I subscribe to the perl hubris type of school
benkay: that's why i'm diving into clojure
Diablo-D3: why code it wrong 4 times when you can code it right once
Diablo-D3: seriously, if your code has bugs you probably didnt think enough
ThickAsThieves: that approach probly works better with coding than with life
benkay: i'm at a point in my development where i need to fail and iterate rapidly
benkay: in my development development :)
Diablo-D3: like, Ive been trying to make a very fast malloc for single threaded apps
lippoper1: I sit there and I think about it for 90% of the time
Diablo-D3: I keep whamming right into KISS hard
benkay: did you grow into being able to see the right approach? or were you always a 90% think, 10% crank guy
lippoper1: then I just come to the conclusion that with the remaining 10% of the time I will not be able to do it to the best of my ability and move on
Diablo-D3: benkay: I kind have always been that
Diablo-D3: I'll rapidly iterate multiple designs during the 10% though
benkay: Diablo-D3 how long have you been at it?
Diablo-D3: Ive been doing C for like 15 years
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.28 BTC [-]
benkay: coming up on mastery, it sounds like
benkay: do you remember much about programming when you were 16?
benkay: how was your process different then?
truff1es: <lippoper1> wow you're sexy and you're 30>>>> hmmm
ThickAsThieves: i was programming qbasic when i was in highschool, and some pascal, it was useful to learn coding concepts, especially since i got into web design after, but coding is much too tedious for me
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.285 = 3.855 BTC [+]
benkay: that was directed at Diablo-D3
benkay: buuuut, ThickAsThieves, what kind of brain *do* you have? where do you pull the currencies in from?
ThickAsThieves: surely we dont need to turn this into more of a circle jerk
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.81 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.8490998 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.84909999 = 9.2455 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: [02:44:44] <benkay> do you remember much about programming when you were 16?
Diablo-D3: benkay: I was programming before that, C wasnt my first language
Diablo-D3: I dont remember much of programming back then
Diablo-D3: [02:44:37] <lippoper1> wow you're sexy and you're 30
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.85 = 3.7 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: I only want to hear those words out of a woman.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.000725 = 10.875 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.86979999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.285 = 7.71 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.428 = 0.856 BTC [+]
lippoper1: (2:55:05 PM) Diablo-D3: I only want to hear those words out of a woman.
Uglux: what is this? prison chat?
Diablo-D3: damnit, john k is still tallying those bids
Diablo-D3: THE SUSPENSE IS… well, not really doing anything for me at all. I get dividends no matter what.
Diablo-D3: I just wanna know if that 53 btc bid went through
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.000725 = 7.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.285 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.9 = 9.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.9 = 5.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.9 = 9.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 1.94 = 11.64 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.95 = 9.75 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 142.79999, Best ask: 142.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 142.81200, 24 hour volume: 70443.15925752, 24 hour low: 131.52300, 24 hour high: 149.08000, 24 hour vwap: 141.37852
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 1.96 = 19.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.285 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C134T] 3 @ 0.36016613 = 1.0805 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.285 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.305 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.305 = 5.22 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.P161T] 2 @ 0.6489861 = 1.298 BTC [-]
Uglux: mike is a good eater
kakobrekla: the title should be bitcoin for kindergarden kids
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00072584 = 0.9073 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4250 @ 0.00315598 = 13.4129 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.462 = 0.924 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.456 = 1.368 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3244 @ 0.00073602 = 2.3876 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: The reason ZIGGAP is not currently up is because my competition has been selectively scamming me. You see the following organizations are all ran by the same group of organized crime and money launderers:
mircea_popescu: this makes a nice narrative. dwolla was created just to ach money through bitinstant before coinbase came about, all the while being in cahoots with mtgox and btcjam.
mircea_popescu: you know who else is in cahoots with mtgox ? bitme and localbitoins.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.457 = 0.914 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 30 @ 0.003389 = 0.1017 BTC [+]
benkay: how is lbtc in bed with gox?
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 20 @ 0.00355 = 0.071 BTC [+]
ezdiy: so to get in the secret bitcoin market cabal one has to sell out half of the company, hmm
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.016 = 0.16 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.33479999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3348 = 0.6696 BTC [+]
dub: I need some form of merit badge
dub: I'm the scam whisperer
gribble: Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4601 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.199 = 0.597 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4611 = 2.3055 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 235 @ 0.01004 = 2.3594 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.000725 = 10.9113 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.302 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.302 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 17 @ 1.305 = 22.185 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 98 @ 0.00338 = 0.3312 BTC [-]
rikur: ThickAsThieves: agreed
rikur: both should be resolved
rikur: I only have a small vote on the May one :)
rikur: very risky bet, but seems like it paid off
ThickAsThieves: they do appear to have shipped more than just testing units
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.3045 = 13.045 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3049 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.305 = 11.745 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i'm not even sure what's the take away. the dazzling display of paranoia
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3075 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.3099 = 2.6198 BTC [+]
deadweasel: it's really thick on that post. somebody is using too many drugs.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.30997 = 13.0997 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: or the fact that bitcoin "businesses" and "infrastructure" are so shitty someone could end up with the impression he's being targetted
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.30998 = 13.0998 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.312499 = 3.9375 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 30 @ 1.3199 = 39.597 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.32 = 3.96 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.32 BTC [+]
deadweasel: an unhealthy dose of paranoia and a shitty infrastructure = ranting and raving.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.32475 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 36 @ 0.00328 = 0.1181 BTC [+]
jurov: fine till you arrived
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.199 = 0.398 BTC [-]
dub: mircea_popescu: I got a distinctly manic response from him when I asked his wife about the legality of her internet bakery
truff1es: why r u asking wifes anything...
rikur: ThickAsThieves: the product page has never mentioned any wattage, just GH/s. I pre-ordered products twice and never saw wattage mentioned anywhere, so if you ask me the No voters are just coming up with excuses.
dub: mircea_popescu: this was 6 months or so back, I assumed there was a train wreck coming at that point
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 14 @ 1.9011 = 26.6154 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: rikur, I could swear that there used to be power specs on the page, also that the advertised GHs used to be higher for some products
ThickAsThieves: however even if so, what's advertised now, is still techincally meeting the terms of the bet text
ThickAsThieves: as it does not specify which specs advertised would be used
mircea_popescu: i think it was said a thousand times that a. specs are hash and power and b. the specs at the time of the bet count
ThickAsThieves: does that mean if specs were changed in the advertisment before the newer bets, that those specs will be referred to?
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00067147 / 0.00070786 / 0.00073602 (795906 shares, 563.40 BTC), 7D: 0.00064 / 0.00069667 / 0.00073762 (2506507 shares, 1,746.23 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00069187 / 0.00073891 (10333478 shares, 7,149.47 BTC)
jborkl: they, since last year- have advertised 1gh/w
rikur: ThickAsThieves: you can check the internet archive for the webby around the time the bet was made, no difference at all IIRC
mircea_popescu: well, since now bfl is not only a scammy piece of shit on all the other counts,
ThickAsThieves: and how do we determine what date the specs advertised were changed
mircea_popescu: i would guess only bets clearly specifying it would be allowed.
jborkl: I do not have a bet at all
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.32000001 = 0.64 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 18 @ 0.32 = 5.76 BTC [-]
jborkl: but to me it would be clear that the specs are failed for the bet
jborkl: the Jala is much faster than specd and uses much more power
rikur: ThickAsThieves: just check the internet archive
mircea_popescu: fascinating what people are willing to say for a dime thi.
rikur: ThickAsThieves: you apparently don't know how the wayback machine works
rikur: mircea_popescu: sorry but no I
mircea_popescu: quite clearly stated on their own forum. release specs : jalapeno 4.5 at 4.5 ; single 60 at 60 mini 1500 at 1500
mircea_popescu: it's in the screenshot and ffs everyone knows it already.
rikur: But I hope whoever resolves it really goes through the arguments and doesn't just pick one on a whim
ThickAsThieves: i do think them changing the specs advertised is sneaky
jborkl: it also is running at 5.8 gh on average - so it fails at 5gh bet also
ThickAsThieves: also, rikur, it is not in your best interest to rush bet resolution
rikur: ThickAsThieves: those posts are from last year, when the bet was created the product page only advertised GH/s.
jborkl: Jalapeno is doin 5.8 and approx 30w
kakobrekla: rikur so you would have been ok with a box of gpus?
rikur: but not advertisement :)
mircea_popescu: why does someone care about the 4 april 2013 snapshot ?
rikur: That's the oldest Jalopeno page on wayback machine, it's after the bet but hey, it's better than nothing. Do you have a product page that has wattage mentioned anywhere? Didn't think so :p
kakobrekla: well you can see the jalapeno went from 1 usb cable
rikur: mircea_popescu: please show me a single product page link that has wattage mentioned, from any date. If you don't have one, I think the April 4th link is valuable :)
rikur: kakobrekla: has nothing to do with performance though :)
jborkl: mircea_popescu, it is running at 5.8 -from very reliable sources - so the bet is a fail
rikur: jborkl: wrong, the advertised performance was with +-10% variance and the bet said that it has to be +-10% of that
deadweasel: also, it should not crap out in two weeks time..
mircea_popescu: jborkl tbh, the +- there is to be construed in their favour. at least this hash, no more than this wattage sort of thing.
deadweasel: that will be interesting... which bfl catches fire first?
mircea_popescu: i don't think they'd count as failed for overdelivering
rikur: kakobrekla: size of a unit has nothing to do with performance, don't be silly
jborkl: oh, I would have rear the bet +- of 5gh or w\e
kakobrekla: rikur they failed on so many levels you can just pick one favourite
jborkl: well, it was supposed to warm coffee also, it failed there also
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves rikur still thinks the web archive is valuable.
mircea_popescu: "Power figures are +/- 10% of those listed while we finish optimizing our power subsystem." << that's where the 10% came from im pretty sure.
mircea_popescu: as in, whoever put the bets in trying to match whatever bfl was claiming at the time
rikur: ThickAsThieves: that's not an an advertisement. Forum moderators claims/behaviour can't be used against a company in court.
rikur: It's not just in case of BFL, but for any forum posts
rikur: ThickAsThieves: they're the ones that eventually solve conflicts
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4749 = 4.749 BTC [+]
rikur: I might sue bitbet.us over this for sure :)
ThickAsThieves: ad·ver·tise·ment [ad-ver-tahyz-muhnt, ad-vur-tis-muhnt, -tiz-] noun
ThickAsThieves: 1. a paid announcement, as of goods for sale, in newspapers or magazines, on radio or television, etc.
ThickAsThieves: 3. the action of making generally known; a calling to the attention of the public
rikur: mircea_popescu: it only costs <300$ and I would win more bitcoins in this case, so it would be worth a shot
rikur: mircea_popescu: thanks, but I know my rights well enough
mircea_popescu: the problem would seem to be you imagine much more than you know.
ThickAsThieves: rikur, your only argument is that the bet does not state what date of advertisement would be used, and you already see where mp lies on that
rikur: ThickAsThieves: nope, my argument is that the product page has never advertised wattage and I know this since I've ordered from them twice.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3 @ 0.00343999 = 0.0103 BTC [+]
rikur: thus wayback machine
kakobrekla: where you ordered it from and what you have read has nothing to do with what they stated
ThickAsThieves: it's not just up to MP tho, he has a crew that decided the resolution
assbot: [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 2 @ 0.679 = 1.358 BTC [+]
rikur: no like I said I just hope that they realy look into the arguments properly and take their time to resolve it in a fair way
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 18 @ 0.4571 = 8.2278 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.428 = 0.856 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: <+AssetBot> [Cado.AvalonB3] 1 @ 0.05000000 = 0.05000000 [+]
ThickAsThieves: guy is breaking up 3 Avalons on order into 33000 shares
kakobrekla: hey hey i got proprietary rights on that syntax
mircea_popescu: two hundred grand for three avalons ? what is this, sparta ?
ThickAsThieves: shit i'm so stupid, I shouldve boght AM blades amd then IPO'd at 10x
ThickAsThieves: i think this is also evidence that a split share AM asset would do well
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 12 @ 0.4729 = 5.6748 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves well i'm not even counting the usual scammy " X % of shares are reserved for management" with sliding X
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.000725 = 7.5038 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla 80-100 mh/s gpus are about 70-100 bux neh ?
benkay: or you can buy a rack of gpus in a 6u mount from Elemental Technologies
benkay: stick it someone else's data center
benkay: their bread and butter is on-demand transcoding, so they may know what's up w/r/t box design
benkay: i'm about 1/10th of the way into talking my way into free development boxes from them
benkay: which i will ship to iceland
benkay: and generate bitcoins from geothermal power
benkay: my sample size for comparison isn't statistically valid tho
mircea_popescu: this is a fine example of why you shouldn't take twitter seriously.
mircea_popescu: also i hope nassim taleb reads that and gets all pissed off.
dub: i was lucky to break 200 and running so hot they barf after a few hours
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.45711 = 4.5711 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.93 BTC [+]
benkay: that's actually not a bad name for an ultradom like you
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.46 = 2.76 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4724 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.4724 = 2.8344 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00072792 = 4.6587 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.901 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.4601 = 2.7606 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.47239 = 3.3067 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.47239 BTC [+]
inhies: lets hope the july bet gets closed soon :)
inhies: "Bets will not be cancelled because it became impossible for one side to win - in such cases bets are closed and paid early instead. "
jurov: btw just got a "why hammering nails with microscope" idea
inhies: seems like it should be closed early assuming the verdict is yes, the latest deliveries count
jurov: why casascius coins aren't charged after successful delivery only?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.45651 = 4.5651 BTC [-]
jurov: no trouble with insurance and btc rate then...
jurov: the 1btc ones do not.. and the 5btc only plating
Chaang-Noi: 1000 btc coin is solid gold .999 i has one
Chaang-Noi: he has gold plated bars at 100 500 and 1000
Namworld: The coin itself is irrelevant, almost
Namworld: I'll take it wooden for all I care.
Chaang-Noi: i did buy it when btc was worth much less than now
Namworld: Like, the sticker and key would burn in a fire anyway
Namworld: So why not a polished wooden coin?
Chaang-Noi: i have a bunch of the 10 btc silver ones and got them when 10 btc = an oz of silver
Chaang-Noi: my coins are in a 2 hour rates fire proof safe. no fire lol
Namworld: Firefighters take their sweet time, fire burns for 2.1 hour
Namworld: Hmm... do fireproof rating applies to content burning?
mircea_popescu: Namworld polished hardwood is pretty much impossible to catch on fire anyway
Namworld: Because plastic would melt way before burning
mircea_popescu: actually some plastic is thermosetting. it never melts.
Namworld: Yeah, idk what casascius uses...
jurov: biodegradable cellophane?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.469899 = 4.2291 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2675 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.266 = 2.532 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: fun fact of the day : chemically, cellophane, rayon and cellulose are polymers of glucose
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4565 = 4.565 BTC [-]
Namworld: Whale mucus? Why not ambergris? "Keeps that fresh Bitcoin smell longer than the competition!"
dub: at a guess I'd say he uses recycled mcdonalds burger wrappers
dub: which he will have in plentiful supply
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.469899 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4699 = 2.3495 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: namworld a house almost never burns for more than 30 mins, there is no way that safe will get damaged
Chaang-Noi: the only plasic on the coins is the holograms
benkay: namworld are you really counseling someone to dial down their fire insurance?
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.013001 = 1.3001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.469899 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: lol i dont think iv ever seen anyone type out ambergris or even know someone who knew what it was
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.4565 = 4.565 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: namworld how do you know so much about whale vomit?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4698999 = 2.3495 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4699 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: i bet the have a lot of whales in canada
dub: I hear theres some moosecock in space atm
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4698999 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4699 = 2.3495 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: i slept 4 hours last night... if that...
Chaang-Noi: getting up before the sun is weird to me
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.456001 = 4.56 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COG.F] 2 @ 2.4999 = 4.9998 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.19987 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 4 @ 0.1999 = 0.7996 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00072792 = 1.3103 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 466 @ 0.00073999 = 0.3448 BTC [+]
truff1es: dont the days go by so quickly
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9534 @ 0.00073999 = 7.0551 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1766 @ 0.00074202 = 1.3104 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00074004 = 2.1831 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00074202 = 3.7101 BTC [+]
dub: hrm AM offline on guild
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2998 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2501 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4651 = 0.9302 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4651 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4749 = 1.4247 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.475 = 2.85 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1924 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 6 @ 0.1923 = 1.1538 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 3 @ 0.1922 = 0.5766 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.2168 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 17 @ 0.000651 = 0.0111 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.000679 = 0.0679 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00081 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.0008 = 0.008 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: Then stop demanding hard and fast timeframes for things that we can't give hard and fast timeframes for. Simple as that. I say multiple times "We aren't sure when <fill in the blank>" and a chorus of people respond back "BUT GIVE US AN ESTIMATE!!!!" Repeat that about
kakobrekla: 20x and that describes the past 6+ months. Like I said earlier in this thread (or maybe it was another one) - the timelines were doled out long before I came on board with BFL. I have worked with what I was handed for this product cycle. Future product cycles, assuming I have
kakobrekla: the final authoritative say in the matter, will not contain shipping dates or definitive timelines. The one and only answer to "When?" is "When it's done." If you get something other than that from me on future product cycles, you'll either get it by that date or I have been
kakobrekla: overridden in my stance of not providing dates. I fully realize this statement will probably sneak up and bite me in the ass at some unspecified future date due to reasons I can't possibly imagine at the moment.
peterl: polymedia? there should be a good joke in there somewhere ...
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.1991 = 0.3982 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.47498 = 4.7498 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: so a little ago i used a flavoured condom to buttseks. the girl is now claiming she can taste teh flavour.
taub: ... gox should offer volume discounts based on $ value
taub: i hate them so much :(
truffles: 'Alcohol enemas': A frightening new hazing trend?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu did you also give her a vodka filled tampon?
thestringpuller: btw mircea_popescu your april 2013 MPOE report was empowering...
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2501 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.25 = 2.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4651 = 0.9302 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: could you elaborate this statement a little more: Unfortunately the hordes of get-rich-quick noobs allied with the howling incompetence of so called .exchanges. have prevailed
mircea_popescu: this idiocy where "We all believe the US is the best in the world therefore it is because we agree" programme is not speculation, it's marauding stupidity.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is a right phenomena. it's natural enemy is the left. this means the horde of like minded lemmings.
taub: Loss : -2`320.17106571 BTC
taub: enemy of the collectivists
mircea_popescu: anyone who expects solutions to problems come from the group is left.
mircea_popescu: anyone who expects solutions come from the individual is right
dub: what point in cornholing if it aint bareback
thestringpuller: You depend on MPOE-PR for you PR. You have a board of directors you refer to for advice as quoted here: "Unfortunately the hordes of get-rich-quick noobs allied with the howling incompetence of so called .exchanges. have prevailed" it is implied this "we" is a collective.
thestringpuller: quoted here: "We.ve been working hard taking apart and examining the price model"
dub: so an occaisional UTI results. deal with it
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: I misquoted I'm sorry. I meant the latter.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller no i get that part. but what's me having a board / employees to do with the group mindset ?
thestringpuller: Don't you all have to agree? Don't you bounce ideas off each other? Or is that still technically individualism?
taub: those groups are formed voluntarily
thestringpuller: When I think of pure individual contribution I think of people like Tesla.
taub: it's not a "everyone has to do their share or else" kinda deal
mircea_popescu: but what's "pure individual contribution" to do with anything ?
ThickAsThieves: i think mp's point may be when individuals release power of problem solving to a group
mircea_popescu: listen, there's kids sitting togetgher in a class. this is ideologically neutral.
mircea_popescu: there's kids working on the same homework. this is also ideologically neutral.
mircea_popescu: if those kids were to go to the teacher and say "We're not doing our homework and you can't punish us cause you'd hacve to punish the whole class", that's socialist bs.
mircea_popescu: in the case at hand, "we will all buy btc and the price can only go up because of it and so we will all become millionaires"
ThickAsThieves: but that rgument seems to be used quite often by the right
mircea_popescu: they were going to pull themselves up by their own pants.
taub: using it already deadweasel :)
taub: hope their live trading gets rolled out soon
taub: its good, very stable stream
taub: well yes, it's just a link to mtgox
taub: but its easier to trade directly off the charts than to log into the site and enter the order every time
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu isn't that a different issue altogether, as you state in your fact, "You can't pull yourself up by your own bootstraps"
taub: somehow buying doesnt work on there for me
dub: sierra should lease an API/socket feed
deadweasel: did you put in the api key? gox --add-secret=
taub: yea, i can sell, but the buy function doesn't work dunno
deadweasel: oh well. i don't trade enought to purchase charting sfotware. but i want it.
dub: have you got permissions set in gox?
dub: deadweasel: can you run the native feed without paying?
taub: yes, the window for order entry doesn't appear
deadweasel: but if you're already running putty, i know how to fix the keyboard fkeys issue.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: there is no difference is there? The group came up, with Max Keiser as their defacto leader, "We can pull ourselves up by our belts", whereas that is a physical impossibility, yet people believed it anyways because other people "said it was so". No?
dub: putty is no longer maintained
taub: i'm already using some putty variant with clickable urls
deadweasel: then feed that kitty and putt it across the room!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00072615 = 3.776 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.000725 = 1.6675 BTC [-]
taub: doesn't work in kitty :[
thestringpuller: Good news mircea_popescu: "Facebook Is Losing Millions Of Users In The US And Other Mature Markets"
nospinzy: cause all the narsasists have taken over
taub: okay i got it working deadweasel, had to change the keyboard settings, ty
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.41 = 2.82 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.4588 = 2.9176 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: how doe facebook lose users anyway? people actually take the time to close accounts?
nospinzy: you can see how many people come to your website...
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 weeks, 4 days, 9 hours, 46 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
thestringpuller: ThickAsThieves: people go inactive, someone not logging in for X time is considered the same as losing a user to the social media world.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2799 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.28 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: well it'd have to be the end of PART of the world then
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.2799 = 2.5598 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: dude copumpkin is a twitter badass. check out what he dug up
mircea_popescu: Sexism is both discrimination based on gender and the attitudes, stereotypes, and the cultural elements that promote this discrimination. Given the historical and continued imbalance of power, where men as a class are privileged over women as a class (see male privilege), an important, but often overlooked, part of the term is that sexism is prejudice plus power. Thus feminists reject the notion that women can be sexis
mircea_popescu: t towards men because women lack the institutional power that men have.
mircea_popescu: because it privileges the speed of light over other speeds that are much more important to us.
mircea_popescu: doing whatever "social sciences" a la women's research or w/e
mircea_popescu: i am currently pining all hopes of universalist humanity on the taleb fellow
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.236 = 4.944 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2351 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.23505 = 2.4701 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.23505 = 2.4701 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.22 = 2.44 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.21 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.205 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.202 = 6.01 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [-]
orkaa: i'm reading one of his books
orkaa: yep, i like how he's questioning everything
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.459 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.45989998 = 2.9198 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 1.46496 = 5.8598 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 1.46498 = 4.3949 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.19021 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.19011 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.17005 = 5.8503 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.17 = 5.85 BTC [-]
mjr___: it just felt so refreshing
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.16914 = 9.3531 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.167 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.165 = 5.825 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.164 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 19 @ 1.152 = 21.888 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: where have you been, you missed like 5 dudes rolling by on their skateboards announcing new exchanges
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.152 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1512 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1512 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.1511 = 8.0577 BTC [-]
mjr___: kakobrekla: "The skateboard ride to Saks today was a little rough, but the skateboard back was great!" I am not joking that is the latest status update from coinsetter CEO...he's a nice guy
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.151 = 2.302 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.150101 = 11.501 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.1501 = 11.501 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.15 BTC [-]
mjr___: but i can't help but laugh after our convo in romania lol
mjr___: he's cool, he's in nyc
mjr___: we were talking about working together, but couldn't get the equity to work...
mjr___: he already had prior investors etcf
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.13205 = 5.6603 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.132 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.13 = 3.39 BTC [-]
mjr___: they are opening sometime this summer i think?
mjr___: but mostly focusing on the shorting/margin side, from what i know...jaron from coinsetter
grubles: im selling my mpex account
grubles: it is mostly to get out of paying the ridiculous 30 btc fee
mjr___: also...how would you guarantee you won't retain the key?
mjr___: kakobrekla: not sure, but we just got market data working and order flow
mjr___: Gods and Monsters by Lana Del Rey
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28050 @ 0.000725 = 20.3363 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.13112 BTC [+]
truffles: Lana Del Rey - Summertime Sadness very nice
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.13102 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.13 = 2.26 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.13 = 3.39 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2397 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2398 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 1.24 = 14.88 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2489 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.249 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.25 = 3.75 BTC [+]
dub: hrm, got an ex specops buddy traveling to italy next week, should get him to pay alberto a visit
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.25 = 2.5 BTC [+]
mjr___: mircea_popescu: hey what up
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2597 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2599 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.26 = 3.78 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
grubles: you can stay at my place if you have 3 women
assbot: [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 2 @ 0.679 = 1.358 BTC [+]