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taub: hm
taub: price action looking kinda strange and choppy
louong: there's a storm a'brewin
taub: yea, still some way to go downwards imo
taub: or wait, we're prolly still in that big range 120-140
taub: eh what the hell do i know
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00071681 = 2.4372 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4341 @ 0.00071564 = 3.1066 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.228 = 2.456 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5909 @ 0.00071564 = 4.2287 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00071352 = 1.7124 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2399 @ 0.00070768 = 1.6977 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7692 @ 0.00070511 = 5.4237 BTC [-]
jurov: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 134.40000, Best ask: 134.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 134.51999, 24 hour volume: 85736.85762934, 24 hour low: 127.30000, 24 hour high: 146.93000, 24 hour vwap: 137.23806
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.228 BTC [+]
zebedee_: mircea_popescu: From the bitbet FAQ: How are winnings calculated? Every bet has two sides. Every bettor on the winning side will receive as follows : 99% of his original bet sum (1% goes to BitBet.us) plus 99% of his bet times the total bet by the losing side multiplied by the winning side total weight and divided by his bet's total weight.
zebedee_: I think that's wrong.
zebedee_: Every bettor on the winning side will receive as follows : 99% of his original bet sum (1% goes to BitBet.us) plus 99% of his bet times the total bet by the losing side multiplied by his bet's total weight and divided by the winning side total weight.
zebedee_: Should be the correct thing no?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla was going to fix it last time someone pointed this out
zebedee_: Ah
zebedee_: np
zebedee_: I thought your formula was similar to BoB's but yours is totally decided by weight, not by whether you're on the winning side (they do a 50-50 thing). I kinda prefer yours I guess; it discourages late bettors even more.
zebedee_: I also like that you resolve your bets promptly; always seem to wait ages for BoB. :)
mircea_popescu: people do complain but most are actually handled within hours.
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.219 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.22 = 1.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 83 @ 0.003289 = 0.273 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Top headline on DPRK radio news today: "International society admires Kim Jong Un as a man of iron will with a lot of guts."
Diablo-D3: its true
Diablo-D3: pissing off the US takes huge balls
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure nobody admires a fat twerp who inherited daddy's fortune.
Diablo-D3: well no
Diablo-D3: obviously not
Diablo-D3: Im talking about the iron will and lots of guts part
ThickAsThieves: lots of guts, as in he's a fatty
ThickAsThieves: i wouldnt call his actions brave
Diablo-D3: brave? no
Diablo-D3: crazy as fuck? yes
ThickAsThieves: crazy, maybe
ThickAsThieves: more likely its strategy
ThickAsThieves: his behavior isnt new
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.10484 = 0.2097 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8370 @ 0.00070702 = 5.9178 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00164 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 25 @ 0.00165 = 0.0413 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19080 @ 0.00070702 = 13.4899 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4520 @ 0.00071453 = 3.2297 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00169 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 15 @ 0.0017 = 0.0255 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 100 @ 0.0017 = 0.17 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17446 @ 0.00071453 = 12.4657 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14450 @ 0.00071663 = 10.3553 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9554 @ 0.00071847 = 6.8643 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.228 = 7.368 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.228 BTC [+]
taub: wow
taub: gox
taub: 1.2*10^-7 volume orders
toffoo: ddos trading bot?
saulimus: that shouldn't be possible
thestringpuller: !ticker m ^OIX
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 61.36322635 / 189.69683035 / 197.76214913 (643 shares, 155.29 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
dub: ;;goxlag
gribble: Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
dub: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 1.642618 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00329178808033 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its third largest moon, Io (0.002819 AU).
taub: back to normal
taub: how did they even enter that order
taub: must've been over the api
taub: J O K E exchange
taub: run by an autist
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.229 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.25 = 2.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2508 @ 0.00070511 = 1.7684 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00070102 = 10.3751 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12628 @ 0.00069963 = 8.8349 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6214 @ 0.00069909 = 4.3441 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17796 @ 0.00071847 = 12.7859 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.1 = 1 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 100 @ 0.010099 = 1.0099 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.25 = 6.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.24999 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: wow go gognitive
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.00363 = 0.0363 BTC [+]
KRS-1: is market price only going up from here? this seems like the new resistance low?
Diablo-D3: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 129.30000, Best ask: 129.67000, Bid-ask spread: 0.37000, Last trade: 129.67000, 24 hour volume: 93680.59746181, 24 hour low: 127.30000, 24 hour high: 146.50000, 24 hour vwap: 136.27703
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 4 @ 0.0054 = 0.0216 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0142 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.010099 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: Diablo-D3: how old are you?
thestringpuller: if you don't mind my asking?
thestringpuller: that's a good age
thestringpuller: age is earned
thestringpuller: so you were 25 when bitcoin started
Scrat: you could have it aaaalll
Scrat: have had*
thestringpuller: Well Mr. Diablo-D3 could you build hardware if someone gave you ASIC chips?
Diablo-D3: no, Im not an ee
Diablo-D3: I understand how its done, but Im not one
thestringpuller: "WAAAH. I don't like to solder. I don't want to burn my hands"
thestringpuller: is all I'm hearing
Diablo-D3: hurr no
Diablo-D3: you dont solder those anyhow
Diablo-D3: you use no flow IR soldering
Diablo-D3: which requires expensive equipment
Diablo-D3: pcb manufacturing and parts mounting is largely an automated process
Scrat: why buy robots when you can buy chinese
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00072857 = 14.28 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: Scrat: not robots, although parts I think are still placed by hand
Diablo-D3: its just that humans have no place in some parts of the pipeline
Diablo-D3: they lower the product quality
thestringpuller: Scrat is right yo. Dude I build computers all the time from random shit, if it works then add robots. You kids waste so much money. "ROBOTS"
thestringpuller: I wanna see what the instruction set/data flow of the chip is ultimately then a computer can be designed from it.
thestringpuller: awk. sentence sorry
taub: < KRS-1> is market price only going up from here? this seems like the new resistance low?
taub: don't count on it
gribble: targets: 120-123 | resistance: 142, 143-145| support: 137-139, 131-133, 120-123 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 30 2013, 16:01 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 17 hours, 32 minutes, and 16 seconds ago
taub: see how price is pushing down on it? and 15m doesnt show any sort of uptrend
thestringpuller: I'd buy at 123 though
thestringpuller: that seems reasonable
taub: ratio is below price
Scrat: ;;bids 0
gribble: There are currently 26807604 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 17655511.1269 USD in total. | Data vintage: 75.1327 seconds
thestringpuller: dude it blew through 128 hahaha
taub: i left #bitcoin-analysis
taub: trying to give opinion on the market publicly is just another stumbling block for your ego in trading
taub: as well as seeing the chatter of others, just confusing
taub: not that anyone cares, but if you're in that channel you might want to consider if it really helps you or just confuses u
thestringpuller: ;;calc (320 - 120)/120
gribble: 1.66666666667
thestringpuller: ;;calc (320 - 140)/140
gribble: 1.28571428571
thestringpuller: ;;calc (320 - 150)/150
gribble: 1.13333333333
thestringpuller: is up with these puts
thestringpuller: someone just donated money to the bot...
Chaang-Noi: iv kinda wondered if we will go down too
Chaang-Noi: glad i baited that finish guy into buying 700 coins from me
thestringpuller: so everyone is bearish right now?
Chaang-Noi: im cautious
Chaang-Noi: i sold a few percent of my crypto wealth so i can live comfertablly if it goes down
thestringpuller: no I meant position wise
thestringpuller: I'm pretty much 80% bearish on trades
Chaang-Noi: after the last peak we saw a few months of slow downness
thestringpuller: right now
thestringpuller: I'm waiting to buy
thestringpuller: to go bull
Chaang-Noi: oh, i was like 98% of wealth in crypto
Chaang-Noi: im trying to make it like 80%
Chaang-Noi: 10% cash 10% gold/silver
Chaang-Noi: just to be safe and balanced
thestringpuller: wait, do you know what I mean by bearish?
thestringpuller: As in a short position facing down
thestringpuller: like buying puts/selling calls
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 45 @ 0.00302256 = 0.136 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: selling coin
Chaang-Noi: yeah i sold for cash to get out of the market, i wont buy back in
Chaang-Noi: im not shorting btc
thestringpuller: The price is hovering around 130 so I mean, I bought in at 10 BTC
thestringpuller: 10 USD/BTC
Chaang-Noi: that 100k usd wil never ever go back into crypto (unless we see single digets again)
thestringpuller: and I thought that was high
Chaang-Noi: i think we will hit 1000$ usd btc
Chaang-Noi: but not for 2 years or more
Chaang-Noi: so i want to take that 100k and well hookers and blow
chmod755: 100k BTC?
thestringpuller: I don't want to buy back in until volatility goes down, I don't have time to trade, I just want more coin via work, and options
Chaang-Noi: most of my btc is locked away for life
thestringpuller: chmoda+x
Chaang-Noi: sell 100k btc for hookers and blow? oh lol
chmod755: lmao
Chaang-Noi: 100k usd for hookers and blow will last me two years
Chaang-Noi: that is if that finnish guy really sends
thestringpuller: Chaang-Noi: So you have liquidity?
thestringpuller: As in you can buy shit straight from BTC?
Chaang-Noi: what?
Chaang-Noi: i sold btc to a guy he is giving me cash
thestringpuller: When I buy shit I'd buy on newegg or some other random site, I look for a BTC alternative first, and buy through btc
Chaang-Noi: you know, i just dont buy much :/
thestringpuller: I is in America
thestringpuller: that's all we do
Chaang-Noi: i really live on like 1k usd a month :/
Chaang-Noi: to support a family
Chaang-Noi: that 100k is litterly for hookers and blow...
Chaang-Noi: i own every thing i want to own, and i think i have too much shit the way it is
Chaang-Noi: i might get a 7990 but doubt it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00072857 = 5.9014 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: why did cognitive go up so fast?
Chaang-Noi: people ahve hope in bfl, did they anounce something?
thestringpuller: did you not hear they shipped?
Chaang-Noi: only the small ones
Chaang-Noi: cognitive has the 60 ghs ones
Chaang-Noi: so as far as i know they are still waiting
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00072772 = 3.4203 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 104 @ 0.00071908 = 0.0748 BTC [-]
KRS-1: I'm waiting on a 60 ghash
KRS-1: lol chaang noi
KRS-1: its like that for a lot of my friends
Chaang-Noi: they are waiting for bfl?
Chaang-Noi: i really dont understand why so many ordred from them :/
KRS-1: their website had an "order" button
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 9 @ 0.24999 = 2.2499 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.25 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: so is BFL really shipoing now?
Diablo-D3: or is it just another ploy?
BitHub: jus more lies
Chaang-Noi: d3 seems they are shipping a few of the 5 ghs ones
Chaang-Noi: none of the 30 or 60
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10532 @ 0.00069909 = 7.3628 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18383 @ 0.00069419 = 12.7613 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 335 @ 0.00069156 = 0.2317 BTC [-]
KRS-1: damnit
KRS-1: it will almost be a year since i ordered
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.213001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.269 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 131.26995, Best ask: 131.49900, Bid-ask spread: 0.22905, Last trade: 131.26995, 24 hour volume: 99188.06456120, 24 hour low: 127.19900, 24 hour high: 146.50000, 24 hour vwap: 135.60081
thestringpuller: I missed the reversal?
thestringpuller: too busy on reddit
Chaang-Noi: its too early to call it eh?
thestringpuller: 130 is the actual price bro
thestringpuller: I wanted to get lower :(
Chaang-Noi: you still might be able to
thestringpuller: Looks like the bulls are assembling
thestringpuller: it's morning in america deposits likely getting filled
thestringpuller: I think the sell off for the moment is done.
thestringpuller: ;;market sell 1000
gribble: A market order to sell 1000 bitcoins right now would net 129908.5788 USD and would take the last price down to 129.2600 USD, resulting in an average price of 129.9086 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 5.6609 seconds
thestringpuller: ;;market buy 150
gribble: A market order to buy 150 bitcoins right now would take 19889.7560 USD and would take the last price up to 132.8000 USD, resulting in an average price of 132.5984 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 14.5020 seconds
thestringpuller: ;;market buy 300
gribble: A market order to buy 300 bitcoins right now would take 39842.3059 USD and would take the last price up to 133.1900 USD, resulting in an average price of 132.8077 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 20.3122 seconds
thestringpuller: ;;market buy 50
gribble: A market order to buy 50 bitcoins right now would take 6624.9998 USD and would take the last price up to 132.5000 USD, resulting in an average price of 132.5000 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 24.4355 seconds
thestringpuller: ;;market buy 500
gribble: A market order to buy 500 bitcoins right now would take 66549.4899 USD and would take the last price up to 133.9000 USD, resulting in an average price of 133.0990 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 27.6082 seconds
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26899 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: ;;bc,24hprc
gribble: 135.14
error4733: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 131.40001, Best ask: 131.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.59998, Last trade: 131.99999, 24 hour volume: 99565.86081847, 24 hour low: 127.19900, 24 hour high: 146.50000, 24 hour vwap: 135.56474
error4733: ;;bids 101
gribble: There are currently 43521.888 bitcoins demanded at or over 101.0 USD, worth 5052515.48118 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0067 seconds
error4733: ;;eightball $115 today ?
gribble: The answer is certainly yes.
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 36 @ 0.00328 = 0.1181 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.003289 = 0.0329 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 7350 @ 0.00291 = 21.3885 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00070522 = 8.6742 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.22601 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00069285 = 6.9285 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.226 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.2201 = 3.6603 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2201 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.213 = 2.426 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10622 @ 0.00072857 = 7.7389 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6728 @ 0.00073356 = 4.9354 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26499 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.265 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.275 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 132.10000, Best ask: 132.36000, Bid-ask spread: 0.26000, Last trade: 132.10000, 24 hour volume: 100278.05955454, 24 hour low: 127.19900, 24 hour high: 146.50000, 24 hour vwap: 135.48832
deadweasel: mornin
kakobrekla: can anyone play this
deadweasel: can't watch tho, at work already
kakobrekla: what are they sayin
Scrat: unavailable due to location
kakobrekla: same here
Scrat: nasdaq too cool for yurop
kakobrekla: being in somalia takes its toll
deadweasel: can't use a proxy or vpn?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla is not that asdvanced
mircea_popescu: that's like... camwhore technologies.
mircea_popescu: let it be entered into record.
Chaang-Noi: maybe this guy is just high all the time?
Chaang-Noi: first time i see him talking about weed
Chaang-Noi: and mp yeah THB is thai baht
Chaang-Noi: he is calling for 1 millioin usd per btc by christmas
mircea_popescu: what can i buy for 1000 thb ?
Chaang-Noi: he must be high
Chaang-Noi: mp 2 hours with a hot 18 year old girl
Chaang-Noi: thats tourist prices
Chaang-Noi: you can get tow girls for 2 hours for 1000 baht if you speak thai
Chaang-Noi: why do you ask?
Chaang-Noi: hmm just did the math, i could get two girls every day for 7.26 years with the money he is wiring me...
Chaang-Noi: however no blow...
mircea_popescu: just curious
mircea_popescu: and i dont buy girls, tbh.
Chaang-Noi: this is the rate for renting
Chaang-Noi: buying is much more
Chaang-Noi: i think the cheapest to buy is like $2,000 usd but start to go up if you want anything but the lowest class
Chaang-Noi: some girls are in the millions of baht so like 100kusd plus
kakobrekla: ;;bc,convert thb
gribble: 1 BTC = 131.43204 U.S. dollars = 3 845.74087 Thai baht
Chaang-Noi: that is right
kakobrekla: 1 btc = 3.845 girls for an hour?
kakobrekla: 2 hours
kakobrekla: ;;calc 3.845*2
gribble: 7.69
Chaang-Noi: keep in mind the average wage here for a month is just over $200
kakobrekla: 7.69 of a girl for an hour
kakobrekla: ill take 20
Chaang-Noi: kako if you did you would not be the first
kakobrekla: id imagine
Chaang-Noi: but its hard to find 20 hot 18 year olds in one spot willing
Chaang-Noi: if you can go 18 to 24 or so yopu are going to be golden
Chaang-Noi: hot girls realize they can make like $1000 a month sleeping around so they do it. parents after 20 years only make $200 a month
Chaang-Noi: wages really suck here
kakobrekla: i doubt ill ever go for that really, but hey it doesnt hurt to know the prices
Chaang-Noi: skilled westerners in demand only get about $1,000 usd a month here, unless they are in some super needed speical feild
error4733: yes but food is cheap
error4733: rent is cheap
error4733: girl are cheap
Chaang-Noi: thats not why i went. yeah rent, and food is fuck all
Chaang-Noi: everything is cheap
error4733: boze same
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi> keep in mind the average wage here for a month is just over $200 << romania is about the same.
mircea_popescu: of course girls here are tall, with big tits and normal eyes.
kakobrekla: uh that low?
Chaang-Noi: everything but luxary cars and high end electronics is cheap here
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla minimum wage is actually 120 usd.
Chaang-Noi: mp what is the going rate for 2 hours wiht an 18 year old there?
kakobrekla: a coin.
mircea_popescu: i have literally no idea, i've never paid.
mircea_popescu: probably a fiddy bux i guess
Chaang-Noi: 1000 baht is about 20 buck
Chaang-Noi: sorry 30
mircea_popescu: ya well, tell you what, if i were to pay i don't think i'd ask for change.
Chaang-Noi: seems about right i guess
Chaang-Noi: if you speak thai there is no need to pay, and im assuming the same for romania
Chaang-Noi: however i doubt a thai guy in romaina would get it for free with out a bit of luck
mircea_popescu: in my experience so far if you're not an idiot you don't need to pay. us or romania, mexico or egypt even
Chaang-Noi: yeah, but at times it is faster and just easyer to pay
Chaang-Noi: most guys would pay $30 not to have the date/foreplay and just do what they want
mircea_popescu: but i enjoy talking with women
Chaang-Noi: time is money...
Chaang-Noi: well...
Chaang-Noi: then i guess that works for you. id rather not in most cases
deadweasel: but they won't make you dinner and wash your clothes, which saves time
mircea_popescu: who am i going to talk to, dudes ?
Scrat: dudes intellectually challenge you
Chaang-Noi: you talk to me
mircea_popescu: half the time i'm thinking "why am i even talking to this guy, he doesn't even have tits"
Scrat: :/
Scrat: only 0.1% of women do
Chaang-Noi: lol if im talking to a girl im like, why the fuck am i talking to her, she has tits...
mircea_popescu: Scrat no they don't. once you are one with the inner woman dudes are too easy.
Scrat: hard to find
mircea_popescu: Scrat super easy to find. you know why ? they tend to know each other.
Chaang-Noi: deadweasel wife is not same as renting a girl for a few hours. you can do both
mircea_popescu: before you know it i's like "hey i have this friend i want you to meet"
deadweasel: not wife
Chaang-Noi: well i have a wife and a maid, maid costs $200 a month, wife a bit more...
deadweasel: she's my fucking ladyfriend
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi don't you ever get bored ?
Chaang-Noi: im bored right now
KRS1: "just stay away from my fucking lady friend"
Scrat: Chaang-Noi how much do ladyboys go for
Chaang-Noi: i think the same or less
KRS1: mircea_popescu?
KRS1: isn't the proper nomenclature "ladyboi"
KRS1: in BTC
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.23003 BTC [-]
KRS1: Does anyone know if any of the BFL units will play leet games like Crysis..I'm expecting mine soon and want to see what that sumbitch can do
deadweasel: nothing but hash
deadweasel: btw, rikur is in a tizzy
Chaang-Noi: Am is up to 10 th
Chaang-Noi: i doubt they will hit their goal of 15 th this week if they dont speed it up
deadweasel: and technically, I do pay her. I rent out her basement, then a month lady started sleeping with her. now I pay my girlfriend rent! shit..
deadweasel: s/lady/later
gribble: [ANNOUNCEMENT] [Bitfunder] TAT.ASICMINER New Micro-share Passthrough!
Scrat: well MP, maybe I need to get out more. or become a millionaire. or both
gribble: [ANNOUNCEMENT] [BTC-TC] TAT.ASICMINER New Micro-share Passthrough!
ThickAsThieves: Please show your support!
mircea_popescu: <deadweasel> and technically, I do pay her. I rent out her basement, then a month lady started sleeping with her. now I pay my girlfriend rent! shit.. <<< bwahahah
mircea_popescu: you basement dweller you.
mircea_popescu: anyway, this is ripe for humiliation games, next time you pay her rent give her a dollah and make her suck your cock for it.
deadweasel: it's true :(
Chaang-Noi: Thick where is this being listed?
deadweasel: she gives me more good sex than i can handle. she's a fucking animal. literally.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves o is that yours ? what's the idea ?
ThickAsThieves: it wil;l be listed on both BTCT and BF
Scrat: A “dead man’s switch” will be implemented in order to pass control of this asset to a safe secondary operator in the case of the issuer’s untimely demise or hospitalization.
Scrat: :D
ThickAsThieves: it's essentially 1/100 shares
ThickAsThieves: also another venue to obtain board seat benefits
ThickAsThieves: (should they ever appear)
Scrat: nice
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves so you bought how many shares ? on PTs or direct ?
ThickAsThieves: I've got about 500 or so
mircea_popescu: and you split them up into 50k ?
ThickAsThieves: will use IPO to reinvest as needed
mircea_popescu: so people can buy for 1 dollar. i get it
mircea_popescu: a pt to the pts, because people refused to implement the mpex standard
ThickAsThieves: this probly wouldve happened even if AM did IPO on mpex
Chaang-Noi: well, the main pass thoughs or at least the one on btct is already talking about a 1/100 split in the price
Chaang-Noi: i think they had a motion on it
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i just mean the small share price.
Chaang-Noi: im pretty sure i voted yess on it
mircea_popescu: as in make shares be 10k-100k satoshi sort of thing
mircea_popescu: "This is because of the fact that I am cool, and most of you are not. If I spend bitcoins, the universe is busy giving them back to me."
ThickAsThieves: he posted his forum thread as I was formatting mine
mircea_popescu: "coolness is a trait that one can develop. One of the ways to develop it, is to spend time with cool people, such as me."
ThickAsThieves: my BTCT app is submitted
mircea_popescu: basically uppitty tortilla is offering friend services ?
ThickAsThieves: I spoke with Burnside about it beforehand
mircea_popescu: that's overpriced.
ThickAsThieves: and he said go for it
Chaang-Noi: okay well im pretty srue i voted on the motion to do a split to 1/100 2 days ago but not 1005 sure
ThickAsThieves: yeah Burnside made no mention to me of this...
ThickAsThieves: I do think mine is better than ryan's ofc
mircea_popescu: that dude got worked on in the venezuela parliament.
mircea_popescu: apparently they had a row :D
ThickAsThieves: particularly since it will appear on both exxchanges
ThickAsThieves: making uptake better
ThickAsThieves: mine also doesn't have a bunch of silly games with mgmt fees
ThickAsThieves: mine does not allow import/export of shares
ThickAsThieves: I am sole manager
ThickAsThieves: i tried to make it different enough to, well, be different than the existing PTs
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves cool.
mircea_popescu: I cannot understand why you continue to bully your inferiors and not speak kindly (as I do), towards all who want to understand. You only posted me a proof this week that you actually have a PR lady, until that I had thought you are a schizophrenic. Your PR is not doing a good job, if I were you I would think again how to present yourself to the world. I do not believe your business is worth 700,000,000mBTC and mine is
mircea_popescu: only 400,000mBTC. As I speak the truth in kindness, and you don't, the valuation of your business will decline and mine will increase. You understand all this, so I await for a change in strategy or the continued decline of your importance."
mircea_popescu: hum, where can i see my importance graph ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26489 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: mp you showed it to me
Chaang-Noi: its the the capitalazation of s.dice vs mpoe
Chaang-Noi: you remember that one? :)
mircea_popescu: atm im at the peak tho,
mircea_popescu: !t m s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00291 / 0.00292345 / 0.00319322 (7745 shares, 22.64 BTC), 7D: 0.00278789 / 0.00304025 / 0.00349938 (39765 shares, 120.90 BTC), 30D: 0.0012 / 0.00310069 / 0.00439999 (940382 shares, 2,915.83 BTC)
mircea_popescu: !t m s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00069156 / 0.00071665 / 0.00073864 (408216 shares, 292.55 BTC), 7D: 0.00064 / 0.00070504 / 0.00076528 (2569174 shares, 1,811.39 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00069719 / 0.00076528 (10160766 shares, 7,084.08 BTC)
Chaang-Noi: well there you go:)
mircea_popescu: like 2.x whatever
deadweasel: who's letter was that, mp?
mircea_popescu: the ever ebullient petrilla guy
mircea_popescu: deadweasel or you mean the bitbet letter ?
KRS1: mp you seem to be a popular guy so far today
Chaang-Noi: mp is pretty popular for never posting on the forum
Chaang-Noi: i think its cuz most people think his pr guy is him
Chaang-Noi: or girl if she is one
KRS1: im reading what this guy is saying in #bitcoin-analysis
Chaang-Noi: did not even know that was a chan
KRS1: Yes, and there is also #bitcoin-anal which is also a lovely channel.
deadweasel: lol, rikur and petriella are srsly butthurt
KRS1: Is it true mp wont accept any critics or feedback?
mircea_popescu: aww whart nao.
mircea_popescu: KRS1 try it and see.
KRS1: I kind of thought he was a pretty amicable fellow.
KRS1: I'll have to come up with something.
deadweasel: i hated mircea_popescu when i got here... I thought "what an arrogant twat". I still think that, but also I think you are correct most of the time.... your delivery is usually lacking grace, but you are generally correct.
mircea_popescu: what, seriously ?
mircea_popescu: i had no idea you hated me.
mircea_popescu: when was this ?
deadweasel: srsly :) the first few weeks I was here.
deadweasel: but as I slowly discovered, your points were correct if ill-delivered.
BitHub: i want to smother the guy with a pillow in his sleep
mircea_popescu: i guess i
mircea_popescu: 'm arrogantly twatty enough to not notice
deadweasel: which is way more important in my mind, I have a thick skin
mircea_popescu: or maybe you had the sense to stfu and lurk
deadweasel: lol bithub, we've all felt that
deadweasel: i tend not to react
BitHub: hehe so hostile
deadweasel: and I tend to do exactly that
mircea_popescu: good strategy.
mircea_popescu: BitHub if you're a girl some pillow stuff may be arranged :D
ThickAsThieves: candor is an acquired taste
BitHub: not pillow biting :B
deadweasel: but no worries, mp, I enjoy your sparky attitude these days, it necessary.
mircea_popescu: deadweasel contrary to what they say, i don't mind criticism etc.
BitHub: don't do it, your bitcoi rep is on teh line
mircea_popescu: actually...
deadweasel: i know you don't mp
ThickAsThieves: i think mp knows exactly how some people will receive him, and does indeed of enough of a narcissistic bent to be okay with it
mircea_popescu: Apr 15 15:45:21 <jcpham>nah unbalanced_ he likes criticism
mircea_popescu: Apr 15 15:45:28 <jcpham>loves it
ThickAsThieves: this does not make him a bad person
ThickAsThieves: or someone to hate
deadweasel: i don't, I quite enjoy mircea_popescu these days, i just had to get over my own ignorant butt hurt pride. it takes a minute or two... :)
ThickAsThieves: the thing that actually caught my attention most about mp wasnt the arrogance, that always comes with intelligent internet chatters,
ThickAsThieves: it's his paternal effect on the room
ThickAsThieves: mp is somehow our daddy
deadweasel: when you come in here ignorant, and MP laws down the fucking law, and you don't like or don't agree, it's hard on the old self-importance gland.
Scrat: no homo?
ThickAsThieves: it's evident constantly
deadweasel: no doubt ThickAsThieves
deadweasel: no homo
mircea_popescu: deadweasel some people are way better at coping than others.
mircea_popescu: to me it connotes intelligence.
ThickAsThieves: is mp old?
ThickAsThieves: maybe thats why
mircea_popescu: im very old.
ThickAsThieves: like 55+?
mircea_popescu: like almost 35
mircea_popescu: what. that's way old. all you 20something young cocks!!1
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi lol
BitHub: 14/f
Scrat: you an abo BitHub?
mircea_popescu: here's a ss just in case.
BitHub: haha an abo, christ
mircea_popescu: what;s an abo ?
BitHub: oh mircea
BitHub: pic time
Scrat: abo = indigenous aus
BitHub: been with a few half abs before scrat, not bad
ThickAsThieves: apparently SR is being extorted?
gribble: REPORT: Infamous Bitcoin Marketplace SilkRoad Is On The Verge Of Collapse Abd Suffering Massive Hyperdeflation | Business Insider Australia
mircea_popescu: lolright.
BitHub: the australian media reports have been lulz
deadweasel: ^? what is abd?
deadweasel: aboriginal?
ThickAsThieves: it's "and" for hack au journalists
deadweasel: apparently so. thx
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: I bought a ticket to romania
thestringpuller: I will post pics
thestringpuller: WE HANG OUT YES?
Scrat: so, mid-week downwards trend?
BitHub: tits
Scrat: sup
mircea_popescu: hang out with the cocks out
mircea_popescu: haven't had those since 2010 i think
thestringpuller: Deceiving.
ThickAsThieves: i welcome the price dip, for now
ThickAsThieves: AM is at 10,000
thestringpuller: Yea but it's gonna have that whiplash from yesterday
thestringpuller: 130 is a good buy target
deadweasel: ^lol mpoe-pr
ThickAsThieves: itll fo below 230
ThickAsThieves: i'm thinking mor elike 120
mircea_popescu: deadweasel apparently he deleted it once.
lippoper2: ;;next
gribble: targets: 120-123 | resistance: 142, 143-145| support: 137-139, 131-133, 120-123 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 30 2013, 16:01 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 22 hours, 34 minutes, and 58 seconds ago
lippoper2: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 128.60001, Best ask: 128.89999, Bid-ask spread: 0.29998, Last trade: 128.60001, 24 hour volume: 93594.34085401, 24 hour low: 127.19900, 24 hour high: 142.88667, 24 hour vwap: 134.39986
lippoper2: ;;ticker --vo
gribble: 93594.34085401
thestringpuller: ThickAsThieves: I think you're overestimating current speculators
deadweasel: mircea_popescu: I would too if my faux conference was being taken apart.
deadweasel: it's wildy entertaining though.
mircea_popescu: whoa that guy with the puts
mircea_popescu: 128, srsly ?
thestringpuller: how many outstanding puts went to the bot?
mircea_popescu: deadweasel it is.
thestringpuller: 4000 right?
error4733: told you :) see you @ 110$
thestringpuller: ;;calc (320 - 120)/120 * 4000
gribble: 6666.66666667
thestringpuller: So like 1000 BTC...
thestringpuller: Why are people giving the bot free money?
ThickAsThieves: for the good of bitcoin stability, like all things bot related
thestringpuller: Good way to start off the month if it truly does hit 120
mircea_popescu: afaik it was sold for like 1.25
mircea_popescu: now like 1.4 or so
mircea_popescu: so like 600 maybe
thestringpuller: but at 120 it'll exercise for
thestringpuller: ;;calc (320 - 120)/120
gribble: 1.66666666667
ThickAsThieves: is this a vacation week in Japan?
thestringpuller: so .4 per put?
ThickAsThieves: that results in lack of cash into Gox from Japan?
thestringpuller: ;;calc 4000 * .4
gribble: 1600
mircea_popescu: like .15
thestringpuller: yea we're talking 1k earned @ bc,24hprc = 120
thestringpuller: I thought all 4000 were sold < 1.3
mircea_popescu: like 1.25 iirc
mircea_popescu: i see what you mean
thestringpuller: yea so the bot is getting free money pretty much lol
thestringpuller: if it hits 120 bc,24hprc
mircea_popescu: yeah. well... obviously they guy was expecting price uptrend
ThickAsThieves: not free money
ThickAsThieves: bot paid dearly last 2 mos
mircea_popescu: yeah, sometimes it goes one way, sometimes it goes the other wya.
thestringpuller: the last 2 mos were a perfect storm, I don't think it was nearly as bad as Augush 2012
ThickAsThieves: "I just witnessed Brad stam his girlfriend. It was terrifying."
mircea_popescu: august was like 45% or somthing
thestringpuller: Last month was ~22% no?
mircea_popescu: this stuff is wicked
mircea_popescu: The FED came to all countries in Asia, Latin America and Africa and told them their gold holdings might not be safe because of the war, and they should permit the FED to take all of it to the US for safekeeping. Many countries obliged, receiving FED gold certificates in exchange, but when they later tried to cash in those certificates and reclaim their gold, they were told the certificates were fake, that they containe
mircea_popescu: d spelling and other mistakes which the FED would never have made, and that the serial numbers were wrong. And the FED still has all that gold.
mircea_popescu: They even did that to Chiang Kai-Shek, taking all of Taiwan’s gold – that had been looted from China – and never returning it. The last I heard, Chiang’s wife was still trying to recover her gold from the FED.
mircea_popescu: Apparently a few people have been successful in presenting their certificates to the FED, with documentation that was irrefutable, but even in those cases the owners were forced to settle for only 1% or 2% of the actual value. And most other people or nations who attempt to redeem these certificates are arrested by the FBI for fraud – at the request of the FED.
mircea_popescu: i wonder how much of that is true ?!
thestringpuller: War never changes
Chaang-Noi: nsnbc,me is that a real media site???
deadweasel: i read that yesterday MP, i've been following the gold scandals for about 7 years
deadweasel: the tungsten plated bars?
mircea_popescu: the tungsten stuff is kinda old.
damientrog: Germans have invaded countries for far less
deadweasel: the FED, i believe, has been hollowing out all their 'protective custody' gold and filling with tungsten.
deadweasel: thing is, nobody has been able to check any of the gold hoards, so could all be that way
Chaang-Noi: nsnbc.me ? i have never ever heard of that site? are they a real site or just trollin?
deadweasel: no doubt damientrog
damientrog: yeah they visited us twice in the last century :)
SatoshiPoker: logout
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi i hacve no idea
bpvanoort: ;;gpg eregister bpvanoort F8E8339C9B5A8C17
gribble: Request successful for user bpvanoort, hostmask bpvanoort!329a06b1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.154.6.177. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/F8E8339C9B5A8C17
Chaang-Noi: yeah, i kinda question the source
bpvanoort: gpg --decrypt
Scrat: deadweasel: why even do that? it would be much easier and controllable to just restrict access to select few people
bpvanoort: ;;gpg eauth bpvanoort
gribble: Error: This nick is not registered. Please register.
mircea_popescu: "MPOE-PR did reply with insult"
bpvanoort: ;;gpg eregister bpvanoort F8E8339C9B5A8C17
mircea_popescu: it replied with insult!!
gribble: Request successful for user bpvanoort, hostmask bpvanoort!329a06b1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.154.6.177. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/F8E8339C9B5A8C17
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 20 @ 0.010001 = 0.2 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: bpvanoort you need to decript the text on your own system,
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1500 @ 0.01 = 15 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.00995 = 0.0498 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: if you're on linux just run gpg
mircea_popescu: if on windows probably have to install something.
bpvanoort: i run windows 7
bpvanoort: i have installed gpg
mircea_popescu: so then open a terminal and go gpg
mircea_popescu: paste the text in there
bpvanoort: thank you :)
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26599 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.266 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.267 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.268 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.269 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26997 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.26998 = 2.54 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.27 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.27988 = 2.5598 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: still too cheap
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.27988 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.27989 BTC [+]
bpvanoort: i do that, then i decrypt in pgp but i dont get the freenode: line
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.2799 = 8.9593 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2799 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.27991 = 3.8397 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.279911 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.279912 = 12.7991 BTC [+]
Scrat: bpvanoort: ctrl + D
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.23018 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.23017 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.23 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.226001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.226 = 6.13 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: lol sell right before dividends, lulz
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.225 = 4.9 BTC [-]
bpvanoort: ;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:532f2b9857b627dd4b3c092e22b575afc72094b9ff08fd22ba231c06
gribble: Registration successful. You are now authenticated for user bpvanoort with key F8E8339C9B5A8C17
thestringpuller: a new gpg user?
deadweasel: Scrat, isn't that what they are doing? Nobody has audited the gold since 1947 or something.. those that have come close get 1 little piece to check out.
thestringpuller: ;;getrating bpvanoort
gribble: This user has not yet been rated. Currently authenticated from hostmask bpvanoort!329a06b1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.154.6.177 .
thestringpuller: welcome aboard
bpvanoort: I apologize if i spammed in any way
deadweasel: no worries, it's a requirement of getting OTC working.
bpvanoort: do i neet to everify every time i come in here?
thestringpuller: As a man wiser than myself once said, "We all started as a novice once".
thestringpuller: bpvanoort: no
thestringpuller: bpvanoort: only if you leave irc
thestringpuller: or gribble goes down
bpvanoort: great
mircea_popescu: basically each time gribble loses sight of you
mircea_popescu: but you only really need to be logged in if you rate somebody or if you're writing a contract
mircea_popescu: so it's not too bad.
thestringpuller: for instance
thestringpuller: ;;ident mircea_popescu
gribble: Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is not identified.
thestringpuller: but we still believe it's him
bpvanoort: haha okay
thestringpuller: Or are you reall kakobrekla in disguise?
bpvanoort: all i need to identify on other machines is the passphrase righ?
bpvanoort: right?
thestringpuller: you need key
thestringpuller: private key
mircea_popescu: you need the key, on gpg.
bpvanoort: the 16 character one?
mircea_popescu: no, the private key.
mircea_popescu: the long gibberish thing there is my public key
mircea_popescu: the private key is similar but longer, and secret.
mircea_popescu: you have to keep it safe, take good care of it.
bpvanoort: this one i didnt get yet
mircea_popescu: this is serious business, losing your keys can cause damage
mircea_popescu: as anyone can sign for you. think of it exactly as your irl signature
bpvanoort: alright
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6890 @ 0.00072889 = 5.0221 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: except if someone signs with yours NOBODY will believe it wasn't you
bpvanoort: should it be in my pgp folder?
mircea_popescu: gpg encrypts it in its keyring.
mircea_popescu: to extract it there's a special command.
mircea_popescu: but be safe with it.
Framedragger: (for those who manually auth each time - there are scripts to automate gribble auth fyi!)
bpvanoort: thanks for the advice. I can't have Satoshi Poker being compromised because of being a newb in gpg
mircea_popescu: best advice is let the key be,
mircea_popescu: copy the keyring file somewhere in a truecrypt volume
mircea_popescu: for backup
Framedragger: (indeed - i keep my truecrypt volume file in dropbox and consider it a sane and safe choice. i keep ultraimportant backups on that truecrypt volume.)
bpvanoort: alright, i will do that as I switch notebooks all the time
mircea_popescu: it's not a disaster if you have only one notebook than can sign
mircea_popescu: and keep it locked up
mircea_popescu: you will never need this like INSTA and unexpectedly anwyay
Troic_: doubts/questions on truecrypt been resolved now ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.222 BTC [-]
bpvanoort: thanks a lot for all the help
Framedragger: Troic_, which ones? i'm probably in the dark, would be interested to hear (links?)
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.221 = 0.884 BTC [-]
Troic_: I seem to remember there where a whole bunch of issues regarding its closed source nature (at the time ? )
Framedragger: oh, must have been a long time ago
Framedragger: k, thanks. yeah, as i take it, it's currently well-regarded in underground / security circles (afaik)
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4211 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.42101 = 2.1051 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.22 = 2.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.42101 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: afaik its open source now
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.20101 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.201 BTC [-]
error4733: ;;asks 999999999999
gribble: There are currently 165283.72 bitcoins offered at or under 999999999999.0 USD, worth 1.43638396996e+12 USD in total. | Data vintage: 101.3467 seconds
mircea_popescu: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 0.251057 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.000503115417026 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
error4733: ;;bids 0
gribble: There are currently 26807424 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 18109311.7963 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0120 seconds
mircea_popescu: why is the vintage 101 and the lag .2 ?
mircea_popescu: nanotube any idea ?
nanotube: mircea_popescu: vintage means "how long ago was the order book data retrieved"
nanotube: gribble caches the book data for 120 seconds
nanotube: to avoid flooding mtgox
mircea_popescu: a cache aha
nanotube: np :)
mircea_popescu: whoa jcpham
jcpham: just a little bit, right
jcpham: and that's a small gaming company
jcpham: well CS isn't small
assbot: [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 6 @ 0.689 = 4.134 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4275 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.264979 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26497 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.264979 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26899 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15950 @ 0.00072787 = 11.6095 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00071204 = 7.8324 BTC [-]
deadweasel: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 128.30001, Best ask: 128.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.69998, Last trade: 128.30001, 24 hour volume: 88882.60688582, 24 hour low: 127.19900, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 133.53842
Technologov: any assets on sale? stocks ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.265 = 2.53 BTC [-]
Technologov: which ones ?
Technologov: list plz.
mircea_popescu: !t m s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00069156 / 0.00071695 / 0.00073864 (432507 shares, 310.09 BTC), 7D: 0.00064 / 0.00070566 / 0.00076528 (2580745 shares, 1,821.14 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00069776 / 0.00076528 (10143106 shares, 7,077.47 BTC)
mircea_popescu: !t m s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00291 / 0.00291068 / 0.00302256 (7395 shares, 21.52 BTC), 7D: 0.00278789 / 0.00304025 / 0.00349938 (39765 shares, 120.90 BTC), 30D: 0.0012 / 0.00308812 / 0.00439999 (886602 shares, 2,737.94 BTC)
thestringpuller: I'll sell 5mn shares of Ziggap for 1 btc each
mircea_popescu: !t m s.bbet
assbot: [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.00100005 / 0.00105714 / 0.00199994 (16200 shares, 17.13 BTC), 7D: 0.00099999 / 0.0014621 / 0.00199994 (135310 shares, 197.84 BTC), 30D: 0.0007531 / 0.00160815 / 0.00201394 (262680 shares, 422.43 BTC)
mircea_popescu: !t b asicminer-pt
assbot: It's so strange that you don't remember any of your poetry.
thestringpuller: !t btctc asicminer-pt
assbot: [BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 1.20602 / 1.25733 / 1.30999 (270 shares, 339.5 BTC), 7D: 1.0711 / 1.24101 / 1.34698 (1682 shares, 2087.4 BTC), 30D: 0.6269 / 0.98436 / 1.75 (7143 shares, 7031.3 BTC)
mircea_popescu: there's maybe 500 other pinksheets stuff.
Technologov: s.bbet = ??
Technologov: hmm BBET = Bitcoin casino.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 40 @ 0.31000001 = 12.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 33 @ 0.31 = 10.23 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: bitbet is lame
thestringpuller: they scam their customers
thestringpuller: by reversing the outcome of bets
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4050 @ 0.00296589 = 12.0119 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 41 @ 0.31 = 12.71 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00296589 = 0.1483 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4050 @ 0.00302256 = 12.2414 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 655 @ 0.00302256 = 1.9798 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 345 @ 0.00311776 = 1.0756 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 125.67379, Best ask: 125.69999, Bid-ask spread: 0.02620, Last trade: 125.70000, 24 hour volume: 91477.79763376, 24 hour low: 125.89000, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 133.27199
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 51 @ 0.31 = 15.81 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.265 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: big dump
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 124.87616, Best ask: 124.88000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00384, Last trade: 124.90000, 24 hour volume: 92760.18820961, 24 hour low: 125.10000, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 133.16109
error4733: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 29.035313 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0581864421564 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin approximately the distance covered by Voyager 1 in one week (0.0689 AU).
thestringpuller: oh wow plummeting
joecool: quality
thestringpuller: If it breaks through to 120 it's gonna cause whiplash
gribble: targets: 120-123 to go 50/50 cash/btc and re-evaluate situation | updated by OneFixt at May 1 2013, 15:52 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 38 minutes and 46 seconds ago
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15150 @ 0.00069572 = 10.5402 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: ;;bc,24hprc
gribble: 132.93
thestringpuller: ;;calc (134 - 120) / 120
gribble: 0.116666666667
jcpham: that's a funny blog post from october 2011
mircea_popescu: davout so how's reading code coming along ?
mircea_popescu: found any new gerbils yet ?
davout: mircea_popescu: wut
mircea_popescu: you're supposed to be working on bitcoin-central, what
mircea_popescu: you thought it's vacation time ?
jcpham: sexual predator
jcpham: yes :)
jcpham: there's like 20k USD in that screenshot
mircea_popescu: haha cool
mircea_popescu: go draw your dongs nao
truffles: kakobrekla didnt know u -otc'ed also
truffles: oh u left..
kakobrekla: i go in that shithole to auth only
kakobrekla: cause the script does it for me
kakobrekla: and im too lazy to change it to some other chan
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu that bus thingy... i like
truffles: some shit in here as there
kakobrekla: truffles not my fault
Technologov: any quality shares, that looks like a real thing ?
thestringpuller: not even mpoe is real
thestringpuller: MPOE as tiberiusiv says is a scam too
truffles: i can point to ppl to blame kakobrekla
thestringpuller: so leave your money with the FED
Technologov: (only one seems real is ASICminer, but IMO too expensive)
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla you know you can auth here now
kakobrekla: the script doesnt though
ThickAsThieves: <Technologov> (only one seems real is ASICminer, but IMO too expensive) <--- I am opening a fractional version of ASICMINER shares, pm for link
Technologov: "fractional version" ?
Technologov: i.e. divided into smaller units ?
ThickAsThieves: shares will be split 1/100
Technologov: This won't make them any cheaper ^^ Only smaller...
ThickAsThieves: maybe so
Technologov: The problem is market cap of $65 mil, which I'm not ready to pay
Technologov: and by dividing further it will not suddenly make them any cheaper
ThickAsThieves: you probly aren't ready to pay for any crypto stock worth buying then
mircea_popescu: well i don't imagine anyone outside of mpex has any shorting capabilities still,
mircea_popescu: as i was trying to short them last month with no success.
mircea_popescu: so i guess you're stuck.
Technologov: I'm evaluating options.
Technologov: I may reject 100 companies before I accept 1.
mircea_popescu: good strategy.
ThickAsThieves: it'll end up boiling down to 4
mircea_popescu: a better idea would be to start a blog and publish your analysus there
ThickAsThieves: MPOE, AM, SDICE, BBET
mircea_popescu: this way community benefits from your work and you benefit from any comments etc
ThickAsThieves: AM has highest divs, MPOE has deepest liquidity, SDICE is in between, BBET is possible longer term bet
Technologov: ASICminer rejected on market cap basis. (but not on quality)
ThickAsThieves: all of them will likely fail that metric with you
ThickAsThieves: there are also some decent bonds
ThickAsThieves: one is run by Namworld, the other Deprived
mircea_popescu: ya trhis is a point.
BTCOxygen: ;;voiceme
gribble: Error: You already have voice in #bitcoin-otc.
truffles: <ThickAsThieves> one is run by Namworld, the other Deprived>> is that a zing
ThickAsThieves: no, why?
ThickAsThieves: did i miss someone?
truffles: no just wondering if they werent up for the job
ThickAsThieves: no they both run their bonds like champs
ThickAsThieves: Deprived's has better payout
ThickAsThieves: but is in LTC
ThickAsThieves: but stil denominated in BTC
ThickAsThieves: Nam's pays daily
ThickAsThieves: so compunded interest is easier if reinvesting
ThickAsThieves: compounded*
ThickAsThieves: well not easier, but more compounded
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.23 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.21803 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.21802 = 8.5261 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.21802 = 2.436 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.218 = 3.654 BTC [-]
Technologov: MPOE = MPEX ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 91 @ 0.0031 = 0.2821 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.003021 = 0.3021 BTC [-]
joecool: Technologov: MPOE = mircea's popsicle empire
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 66 @ 0.003021 = 0.1994 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.003011 = 0.3011 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.003001 = 0.015 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.003 = 0.3 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ono, the jig ?
Technologov: Are there any mining shares, like ASIC miner? (but cheaper?)
ThickAsThieves: there are many mining operations
ThickAsThieves: all are much more risky than AM
ThickAsThieves: usually losing propositions
ThickAsThieves: because mining diff is going up up up
ThickAsThieves: and liquidity goes down down down
mircea_popescu: the notion of investing by cheapness is usually self defeating.
Technologov: The notion of ASICminer share prices makes no sense whatsoever.
Technologov: $65,000,000 (dollars worth) / 8076. (GH/s) = $8048 per GH/s.
Technologov: This is their price. A bit extreme, don't you think ?
ThickAsThieves: they are at about 10,5000
mircea_popescu: i mean, don't like netflix cause it's too expensive ? try gtrl. http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/gtrl-or-gtfo/
ThickAsThieves: and will be at 15k in a few days
mircea_popescu: Technologov as i said i have been looking to short them months ago.
ThickAsThieves: is an ipad worth $600?
ThickAsThieves: yet people buy
mircea_popescu: the theory is that they have more product in the pipeline etc.
mircea_popescu: their auction to sell blades yielded what, 1.5k for 50 chips
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 1500 * 130 / 50 / 10
gribble: 390
mircea_popescu: $390 per gh
Technologov: mircea_popescu, but only if you have Bitcoin as hedge (not with dollar LOL)
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.25 = 2.5 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: techno, you also have to factor liquidity
ThickAsThieves: its a big factor
ThickAsThieves: something can make sense today
mircea_popescu: wonder if that goes to 500 pages.
ThickAsThieves: fall in price and lock you in tomorrow
kakobrekla: hardly cause the bitch keeps deleting my trollings
Technologov: think i.e. you can't buy or sell ?
kakobrekla: like that fuckin conversion table wasnt good enough?
Technologov: or just big spread?
ThickAsThieves: shallow bid orderbook
kakobrekla: i spet like serious amounts of seconds on that
kakobrekla: wrong thread
mircea_popescu: lol which were you thinking
kakobrekla: i thought you linked reptil dude
kakobrekla: my bad
kakobrekla: shot first ask later.
mircea_popescu: conversion table got deleted ?!
mircea_popescu: was pretty good i thought.
kakobrekla: well twas useful for me
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.47939789 = 1.9176 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.479 BTC [-]
jcpham: that dude deleted both of my posts from his diary
jcpham: sector 8 sublevel 9 meganodes not alowed
kakobrekla: yes yes
kakobrekla: we were all de-leeted
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla if you feel like more epic trolling, start a thread, post your stuff, mpoe-pr etc.
mircea_popescu: thread battle.
mircea_popescu: on the other hand, shouldn't you be busy doing stuff!
kakobrekla: myea, this forum is un-doing
error4733: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 122.50000, Best ask: 122.51000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 122.51000, 24 hour volume: 100036.15054850, 24 hour low: 122.28200, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 131.69547
error4733: ;;bids 120
gribble: There are currently 9594.3663 bitcoins demanded at or over 120.0 USD, worth 1159798.60505 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0068 seconds
Bugpowder: I just picked up a bunch.
ThickAsThieves: a lil worried its not done though
error4733: sold yesterday
error4733: first time ever i see something in all those chart
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.25 = 10 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.264 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.264999 = 3.795 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.265 = 3.795 BTC [+]
inhies: hrm
inhies: since the outcome is no
inhies_: blah
inhies_: did i miss any resposnes? :-/
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.32999999 = 0.99 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: theres no discussion either
mircea_popescu: for total lulz.
ThickAsThieves: bet results are privately decided by mods
jcpham: JUST TWO MOAR WEEKS!!!!!!
ThickAsThieves: not likely theyll be justifying themselves in forums
mircea_popescu: inhies_ there's a forum thread
ThickAsThieves: nice links
ThickAsThieves: will camgirl be starting a fund
inhies_: mircea_popescu: thanks
jcpham: i'm taking the action in the money mayweather match
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves in romanian fund is how you say butt.
inhies_: lol
inhies_: nice blog post
mircea_popescu: i hope it will collect good qty of butthurt and drama to prop btc with
jcpham: i've got people taking odds on mayweather in skype
jcpham: step up and get your money taken
mircea_popescu: jcpham use your referal dawg
jcpham: what's that
jcpham: nah i don't like doing that
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 119.98095, Best ask: 120.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01905, Last trade: 120.00000, 24 hour volume: 106062.78660435, 24 hour low: 120.10000, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 130.56934
error4733: !bids 0
error4733: ;;bids 0
gribble: There are currently 1.8694388e+08 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 16736350.5685 USD in total. | Data vintage: 21.9164 seconds
error4733: $23M last week :/
ThickAsThieves: ;;bids 1
gribble: There are currently 589534.58 bitcoins demanded at or over 1.0 USD, worth 16621516.048 USD in total. | Data vintage: 43.1612 seconds
ThickAsThieves: this is gonna get ugly
mircea_popescu: ;;tricker
gribble: Error: "tricker" is not a valid command.
Scrat: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 57.429796 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.115088668168 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
Scrat: here we go
error4733: ;;eightball 99 today ?
gribble: I doubt it very much.
pgp2: oh boy... time for some excitement!
ThickAsThieves: motherfucker! I just locked myself outta gox
ThickAsThieves: caps lock on
error4733: epic fail :D
Scrat: get a password manager
error4733: its lock after 1 wrong try ?
ThickAsThieves: 3 maybe?
Scrat: ;;ticker --last
gribble: 114.77854
ThickAsThieves: i have mas bids up under 100 too
ThickAsThieves: hopefully it doesnt crash too far...
damientrog: any idea why it's going down like that?
damientrog: mass selloffs?
louong: I would be a buyer under 100
Bugpowder: I want to pick up 2100 at the bottom
Bugpowder: 100 will be tough to get thru
Bugpowder: obviously
pgp2: holy crap
error4733: +100% supply -25% order, do the math
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 112.30000, Best ask: 114.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.70000, Last trade: 114.00000, 24 hour volume: 114867.53833811, 24 hour low: 113.28767, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 129.33034
thestringpuller: Bugpowder 2100 at 100?
damientrog: damn you laws of supply and demand
error4733: ;;goxlag
gribble: Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
truffles: its going downnnn
thestringpuller: ThickAsThieves: your theory was right
pgp2: back to 50
kakobrekla: it was fixed
kakobrekla: its sub 1h
damientrog: damn it, always happens just after I transfer my fiat back to my bank account
pgp2: lol
Scrat: is this like 12 day low?
gribble: target: 135 | updated by OneFixt at May 1 2013, 18:07 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 31 minutes and 28 seconds ago
ThickAsThieves: too bad i didnt listen to my own theory
ThickAsThieves: what did i say, if 108 didnt happen before thursday it wasnt gonna happen
ThickAsThieves: welp it happened
thestringpuller: It'll whiplash hard though
thestringpuller: that's the next part of your theory
thestringpuller: whatever it bounces off of it's gonna bounce...hard
thestringpuller: cause people like Bugpowder will start buying
thestringpuller: I just saw it
thestringpuller: 2704 @ 105
Scrat: was that 2202 bugpowder?
Bugpowder: I actually placed a bid at 110
Bugpowder: but cancelled it before execution
thestringpuller: oh God this is gonna get messy
Bugpowder: Replaced the bid
Bugpowder: I should not have cancelled
thestringpuller: you should have gotten at 105
thestringpuller: you were right in your rationale
Bugpowder: fucking missed it
Bugpowder: FUCK
thestringpuller: because you're using THE FUCKING WEBSITE
thestringpuller: trying to out click bots?
thestringpuller: Didn't we all learn our lesson via Diablo 2?
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 110.00001, Best ask: 115.78702, Bid-ask spread: 5.78701, Last trade: 116.99900, 24 hour volume: 130746.14941506, 24 hour low: 104.00000, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 126.33049
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
thestringpuller: this is a wicked spread...
gribble: Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
pgp2: the days of monster spreads are but it seems...
kakobrekla: lag at 120
kakobrekla: change that to 150
ThickAsThieves: if i were using a chromebook, i'd be playing on gox right now
ThickAsThieves: no caps lock key
thestringpuller: oh man that spread is closing like a mofo
kakobrekla: o wonder what btc.sx says
kakobrekla: hm 4$ only
kakobrekla: damn i only have some pocket change in there
kakobrekla: a few dessert spoons if you will
thestringpuller: that's some wicked whiplash
benkay: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 112.50000, Best ask: 113.53478, Bid-ask spread: 1.03478, Last trade: 113.53478, 24 hour volume: 132756.85538487, 24 hour low: 104.00000, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 125.65024
kakobrekla: first pullback in lag
thestringpuller: ;;bc,24hprc
gribble: 126.54
benkay: ;;goxlag
gribble: Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
benkay: ahahahahaha
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 30 @ 0.1 = 3 BTC [-]
benkay: what's the mpex python client called?
error4733: ;;bids 0
gribble: There are currently 26774400 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 14729685.3373 USD in total. | Data vintage: 60.9113 seconds
benkay: nvm
ThickAsThieves: this was my prediction
ThickAsThieves: create 4/27
benkay: what is m2?
benkay: ThickAsThieves what is m2?
damientrog: magic number 2
thestringpuller: ThickAsThieves: where are we now?
ThickAsThieves: we're in the H2 valley
mircea_popescu: so this guy is actually trying to dig himself out of the hoel ?
ThickAsThieves: benkay, M@ corresponded to M1
ThickAsThieves: M2* not M@
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: what did he do?
mircea_popescu: you know the pirate bet
ThickAsThieves: the chart shows how we're in a compressed recreation of the most recent bubble
thestringpuller: that he would pay?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.274 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: I think this is before my time
thestringpuller: !ticker H HIM
assbot: [HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.79000000 / 1.84053889 / 1.85010000 (18 shares, 33.12970000 BTC), 7D: 1.46040000 / 1.84566645 / 1.96000000 (158 shares, 291.61529974 BTC), 30D: 0.75000001 / 1.6547747 / 2.05990000 (737 shares, 1219.56895360 BTC)
ThickAsThieves: meta oscillation or such
benkay: ThickAsTHieves I totally didn't read the labels on the graph. hungover.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.2749 = 2.5498 BTC [+]
damientrog: pirate is the guy who pulled the ponzi scheme right?
damientrog: also before my time
mircea_popescu: this guy made an open offer bet to anyyone on the forum that pirate pays out
mircea_popescu: he ended up with 10's of k's of btc bet (at the time price was under 10)
mircea_popescu: so he just made a post saying "i give x 48957349859 btc" etc.
mircea_popescu: supposedly it was a joke, ppl were pretty pissed.
damientrog: ooh a meta-scam
damientrog: lovely
mircea_popescu: sorta kinda
benkay: remind me again why I bother pursuing legal remuneration for things?
benkay: people are so dumb.
pgp2: i dont understand - how were people financial hurt?
thestringpuller: probably hedging it as insurance?
pgp2: ah
mircea_popescu: pgp2 well supposedly some used it as a hedge on pirate.
mircea_popescu: but genberally at the time situation was very tense.
mircea_popescu: incidentally rthe original "mpoe-pr is bad pr" and/or "mp is evil" started because the girl called the entire thing a scam last april
mircea_popescu: or was it march
damientrog: Bitcoin history is better than any movie
mircea_popescu: this at the time was serious cognitive dissonance, as pretty much everyone was on the bandwagon
mircea_popescu: so people were truely furious when the thing did in fact keel
pgp2: i see
mircea_popescu: as in "i can't believe i've been this stupid and it totally can't be my fault"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4950 @ 0.00307414 = 15.217 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.003 = 15 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00290011 = 2.9001 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00290001 = 2.9 BTC [-]
pgp2: how many BTC did pirate make off with?
damientrog: no SDICE, up you must go!
mircea_popescu: pgp2 at most half a mil
mircea_popescu: tho that's really the upper bound of outstanding obligations
benkay: have those been spent yet?
mircea_popescu: he probably sold most of his loot at around 7 usd per
mircea_popescu: and that means about 100k or so i'd guess (dollars)
benkay: "probably"? can't we verify this?
pgp2: put it through a mixer, i presume..
benkay: we can verify that it hit a mixer.
jcpham: i can give you an address
mircea_popescu: he had the original miner haspower exchange thing
damientrog: MP, how long have you been into BTC now? Since 2011 or earlier?
jcpham: if you want to see what mixing loooks like
mircea_popescu: pretty much for the purpose of buying newly minted coins
jcpham: under the pirate ship
mircea_popescu: because in btc you can't really run a ponzi
mircea_popescu: as if you pay investors with investor money this is obvious in the bliockchain
jcpham: yes, yes it is
mircea_popescu: damientrog july 2011
pgp2: hmmm
damientrog: nice, that's quick to establish the exchange
mircea_popescu: that's, if you're curious, how the entire kraken meme got started.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.275 BTC [+]
jcpham: 1AsKbn1xD5QieiS6dpaC6kKmg3EjW22qup
jcpham: has ponzi written all over it
benkay: does anyone have a moment to debug jurov's mpex client with me?
benkay: or, more likely, debug my setup for running it?
damientrog: what language is it written in?
mircea_popescu: jcpham also from belgium, so child porn
damientrog: you prejudiced gypsy
mircea_popescu: jesus fuck these people.
mircea_popescu: "yes we advertise. no we only do banners. here's our media kit"
benkay: python, damientrog
mircea_popescu: "media kit" is this $40 CPM bullshit.
damientrog: hmm that's been many years ago for me
mircea_popescu: as if i am EVER paying 4 cents per page refresh, what am i, bernanke ?
damientrog: by debugging, you mean bug fixing?
ThickAsThieves: just use google adwords
pgp2: ;;goxlag
damientrog: always willing to take a look
gribble: Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
jurov: just came in. looks like python3-related problem (isn't supported yet)
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.275 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 114.01000, Best ask: 116.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.99000, Last trade: 114.01000, 24 hour volume: 145094.43438432, 24 hour low: 104.00000, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 124.34100
mpexbot: ThickAsThieves: 124.39
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.33 BTC [+]
benkay: damientrog it was a python 3 thing
benkay: idiots are all "USE ALL THE PYTHON 3 PACKAGES BY DEFAULT ALL THE TIME WHO CARES ABOUT YOUR NOT EVEN OLD DEPENDENCIES"
benkay: excuse me.
jurov: ThickAsThieves, will you also offer options on TAT.ASICMINER in any significant quantity?
damientrog: well that always sucks when it's such a low level problem
jurov: there's very serious interest in them. or in shorting.
ThickAsThieves: anyone that owns shares/btc can write options
benkay: one can write options on the assets on the exchange?
benkay: whoa.
jurov: benkay, both bf and btct has this
ThickAsThieves: I do have intentions of starting an options-oriented fund after these assets are off the ground
jurov: but usually no one is market making yet
ThickAsThieves: which will likely involve playing on all exchanges that offer options features
ThickAsThieves: including writing and buying
ThickAsThieves: so maybe that can be your market maker
ThickAsThieves: of course itd be tricky to get involved in too many assets
ThickAsThieves: so might just be USD/BTC to start
jurov: no just do asicminer and do it right
mircea_popescu: he prolly has a point.
mircea_popescu: focus is valuable
jurov: usd/btc is quite risky, as we all know :)
ThickAsThieves: maybe if i end up with piles of AM shares i'll consider it
ThickAsThieves: one thing at a time for now tho
benkay: would someone remind me of the calculation of the breakeven point for puts and calls?
jurov: ;;slap deadweasel
benkay: thanks jurov
jurov: ^that weasely dude was hired to write a manual... a month ago or so
ThickAsThieves: note that google updates are unpredictable
ThickAsThieves: so you need to make a copy of the doc
ThickAsThieves: to instigate an update
jurov: i think we can consider this position vacant
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.275 = 8.925 BTC [+]
benkay: lol braw clip
tk993: Wow, those options are pricing in massive moves. Are you able to sell them like normal options or just buy them?
tk993: and by sell I mean write.
deadweasel: jurov, i'll send you what i have
deadweasel: but I just don't care enought to finish
jurov: how so?
jurov: bitcoiners are so incredibly lazy :/
benkay: what's the status of the thing?
deadweasel: i have full time job, plus full time lady friend, plus full time martial arts training and instructing... i can barely keep up with bitcoin as is
truffles: full time martial arts training and instructing...>>> i want
deadweasel: come get
jurov: don't believe him... sprained his wrist from fapping actually
truffles: would if i could
jurov: :D
deadweasel: ^ martial art fapping is intense!
benkay: is there a word for the spread between options breakeven?
truffles: haha
deadweasel: benkay, I call that the great divide
deadweasel: but it's colloquial to me
deadweasel: what's that jurov?
deadweasel: i borked my MSGS
jurov: deadweasel thanks anyway
jurov: just that
deadweasel: no worries, take it from there... i was gonna make it pretty, but meh.
mircea_popescu: tk993 yes you can both write and buy
jurov: premature optimization, eh?
deadweasel: no doubt
deadweasel: went everywhere
deadweasel: was gonna do examples and everything
truffles: sounds very....
benkay: $avg
mpexbot: benkay: 124.01
deadweasel: is this a possible vector of attack on mpex? = they'd buy 4000 puts then ddos and dump their btc for 24 hrs then exercise....
jurov: mircea_popescu: the x axis are days in april?
jurov: in bbet graph
mircea_popescu: deadweasel if you sell the puts you can't exercise them
mircea_popescu: jurov should be yea
mircea_popescu: deadweasel o nm. yes, in theory this is possible.
deadweasel: but they would have to have huge resources and motivation
jurov: no, it's not unlikely something like that happened already
jurov: but it's hard to pick up from all the noise
deadweasel: well i saw those 4k puts bought and started wondering
mircea_popescu: they were sold.
mircea_popescu: that position is currently well underwater.
deadweasel: awesome
jborkl: long way till the end of the month, but bondholders are happy in one way -
mircea_popescu: i guess that practically answers tk993 's question. yes, someone wrote 4k puts yest
jborkl: 10k bitcoins to the winner
jborkl: well wait, no 5000
mircea_popescu: nah it's not that bad. -0.2 per or w/e
mircea_popescu: and if the same person also sold the 4k calls, then .1 from there
jborkl: oh , yeah I forgot about the settlement value
jborkl: and the calls ofsetting
jborkl: off
jcpham: so a 40 dollar dip
jcpham: seems nomral to me
benkay: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 108.30000, Best ask: 109.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.70000, Last trade: 109.00000, 24 hour volume: 153906.50061501, 24 hour low: 104.00000, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 123.43449
jcpham: ;;ticker --high
gribble: 141.90000
jcpham: ;;ticker --low
gribble: 104.00000
jcpham: ;;calc 104/141.9
gribble: 0.732910500352
jcpham: so legit
benkay: what are you calculating there?
jcpham: how many times 141 goes into 104
benkay: derpface
benkay: what's the intel you glean from that?
jcpham: i think it is a fraction
jcpham: how do imath percents from fractions?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4200 @ 0.00311776 = 13.0946 BTC [+]
benkay: loss factor, then?
jcpham: maybe
benkay: or inverse or something
jcpham: looks like 73% loss
jcpham: but that can't be right
mircea_popescu: 27% spread noob
jcpham: those maths are no good
jurov: lmao
benkay: i am so wat
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00311776 = 0.0156 BTC [+]
jcpham: hurrr
taub: daily reminder that mtgox is run by amateures
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.33 = 1.32 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.33449996 = 1.6725 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.33449997 = 3.0105 BTC [+]
upsandowns: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 112.24197, Best ask: 112.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.45803, Last trade: 112.70000, 24 hour volume: 160741.58524685, 24 hour low: 104.00000, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 122.75478
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.33449999 = 2.676 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00069425 = 2.1522 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.28 = 3.84 BTC [+]
deadweasel: holy crap... eat your heart out banksy!
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2822 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2825 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.29 = 9.03 BTC [+]
mod6: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 12.167562 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0243836580132 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).
mod6: lagtastic
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C086T] 1 @ 0.47723241 BTC [+]
gribble: Use a Software Bug to Win Video Poker? That’s a Federal Hacking Case | Threat Level | Wired.com
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25101 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.31000002 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.31000001 = 4.03 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 56 @ 0.31 = 17.36 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C092T] 1 @ 0.44240036 BTC [-]
upsandowns: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 116.75200, Best ask: 117.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.54800, Last trade: 116.75200, 24 hour volume: 165498.55399948, 24 hour low: 104.00000, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 122.28374
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4573 = 2.2865 BTC [-]
benkay: $avg
mpexbot: benkay: 122.14
benkay: ;;calc 125/160
gribble: 0.78125
benkay: ;;calc 125/.7
gribble: 178.571428571
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.33459979 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C125T] 1 @ 0.12138642 BTC [-]
upsandowns: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 119.50000, Best ask: 119.79000, Bid-ask spread: 0.29000, Last trade: 119.50000, 24 hour volume: 168525.01604357, 24 hour low: 104.00000, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 122.04069
jborkl: Dear jason,
jborkl: Shipping of our BitForce SC ASIC miners has begun!
assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C125T] 1 @ 0.29224174 BTC [+]
upsandowns: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 119.20000, Best ask: 119.41938, Bid-ask spread: 0.21938, Last trade: 119.41938, 24 hour volume: 168525.01604357, 24 hour low: 104.00000, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 122.04069
deadweasel: do y'all trust or use bitfinex?
deadweasel: jborkl:
deadweasel: Please be advised that due to the adjustments described above, we need your confirmation prior to release of your order into the final build queue and on to final delivery. It may also be a good time to review your purchase altogether relative to the bitcoin market as this is the last opportunity to do so. If your order is not confirmed, it will be canceled and your money will be refunded.
deadweasel: do you still have an order jborkl ?
upsandowns: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 116.85655, Best ask: 118.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.14345, Last trade: 116.85655, 24 hour volume: 171832.50565117, 24 hour low: 104.00000, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 121.95394
dub: can anyone login to bfl?
dub: I get a coudflare unavailable page
dub: (fucking idiots)
dub: ((ultraredundant statement))
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26001 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26 BTC [-]
[\]: they're a bunch of twits
[\]: seriously
ThickAsThieves: i got an email from bfl asking me to confirm my order
ThickAsThieves: i cancelled mos ago
kakobrekla: doo it
[\]: you got refunded months ago?
[\]: sounds like you should confirm your order ;-)
dub: good luck
dub: The Website Is Down
damientrog: just extremely slow
kakobrekla: The Bitcoin Website Got Hacked?
damientrog: and sometimes down
dub: I just get cloudflare page
damientrog: I got through a couple of times
damientrog: but dumbass me forgot his password
damientrog: frustrating :)
dub: I never had a password
damientrog: well I can't find a reference to any either, nor do any of my common passwords work
damientrog: maybe another delay tactic of BFL :)
damientrog: you didn't confirm your orders suckers
damientrog: so no shippin
jborkl: already confirmed mine
damientrog: ah :)
jborkl: just be really patient, it is loading but very slow
damientrog: indeed
jborkl: took like 2 minutes
damientrog: would some asshole be DDOSing? or is cloudflare oversensitve for the high load of people trying to confirm
jborkl: 5000 people hitting f5 at the same time does that
benkay: what is IMMcover in the MPEx STAT response?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4792 = 2.396 BTC [+]
damientrog: it probably does
upsandowns: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 117.00000, Best ask: 117.86699, Bid-ask spread: 0.86699, Last trade: 117.86700, 24 hour volume: 174900.35834808, 24 hour low: 104.00000, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 121.80829
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.25899 BTC [+]
upsandowns: is there a list of calls for gribble somewhere?
KRS-1: define asshole..not sure what or who to look for
dub: look for a rusty bullet hole
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.428 = 0.856 BTC [+]
dub: jborkl: where do you confirm?
assbot: [BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.4999 BTC [+]
jborkl: it just pops up
arij: i pressed accept
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00069571 = 1.7045 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00069722 = 4.0787 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 189 @ 0.010098 = 1.9085 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 22 @ 0.010098 = 0.2222 BTC [+]
dub: jborkl: did you get any positive feedback that acceptance worked?
jborkl: order changed from pending acceptance to processing
dub: thanks
jborkl: sure np
damientrog: guess I will just need to have some patience, resetting my password and then trying to log in is taking ages
damientrog: ah my bitching helped, I managed to log in
gribble: Living On Bitcoin For A Week: The Journey Begins - Forbes
damientrog: damn it, nothing pops up here to confirm
damientrog: BFL sure is a test of a man's patience
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 4 @ 0.013889 = 0.0556 BTC [-]
damientrog: ah it pops up in chrome, safari didn't do it for me
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5551 @ 0.00069425 = 3.8538 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9349 @ 0.00069197 = 6.4692 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.31 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 1.9199 = 19.199 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.33449999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.28999 BTC [+]
truffles: <deadweasel> it was a good read
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.9199 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.92 = 3.84 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.259 = 1.295 BTC [+]
deadweasel: o/ high five truffles
Framedragger: asciilifeform, how's Loper going? :P
asciilifeform: Framedragger: slowly.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: i'm genuinely glad to hear it is still on-going, godspeed mate. :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4201 @ 0.00069197 = 2.907 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3599 @ 0.00068342 = 2.4596 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0142 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.428 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.28999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 7 @ 0.010098 = 0.0707 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 11 @ 0.428 = 4.708 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.26 = 0.52 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: could beat mtgox execution speed in some cases though
thestringpuller: kakobrekla pm
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.42101 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.411002 = 0.822 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.41001 = 1.23 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.400001 = 2 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2899 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.0985 = 0.197 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.0985 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00108 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.00107 = 0.0107 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 189 @ 0.00107 = 0.2022 BTC [-]
[\]: oh hey
[\]: asicminer is paying dividends I hear
dub: I only got the fucking satoshis
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 38 @ 0.00286 = 0.1087 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 15 @ 0.00285 = 0.0428 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 71 @ 0.00282 = 0.2002 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 12 @ 0.00281 = 0.0337 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2899 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 32 @ 0.010098 = 0.3231 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.010099 = 0.101 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 227 @ 0.003289 = 0.7466 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.003322 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 464 @ 0.003322 = 1.5414 BTC [+]
grubles: ;;seen mircea_popsecu
gribble: I have not seen mircea_popsecu.
grubles: ;;seen mircea_popescu
gribble: mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 hours, 43 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> 27% spread noob
grubles: ;;later tell mircea_popescu hey id like to ask you some questions about my mpex account, thanks.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0142 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.10478 = 0.2096 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21493 @ 0.00068748 = 14.776 BTC [+]
taub: are you a bassline junkie?
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