(trilema) mike_c: !t h rent
(trilema) mike_c: short! short!
(trilema) mike_c: mpoe flirting with 60.. what a bull run.
(trilema) mike_c: half again = 50% more, not less
(trilema) mike_c: technology aside, that is still good news. Perhaps 2015 will be the year!
(trilema) mike_c: I think mpex method is perhaps best method. Just show the text and link to verifiable text blob.
(trilema) mike_c: yeah
(trilema) mike_c: Feels like a line-ending problem. dpaste the original?
(trilema) mike_c: i concur, still doesn't verify. overflow-x did make the scrollbar appear all the way at bottom, still sucks. white-space: pre-wrap also works, and makes the line breaks look even worse, but content is at least all visible.
(trilema) mike_c: if you throw it up with the pre I can play with it and give you good css?
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu: yeah, linewrap.
(trilema) mike_c: really? hm. spec is lazy.
(trilema) mike_c: sheesh, put a semicolon at the end :)
(trilema) mike_c: or add some css for pre
(trilema) mike_c: html and pgp don't mix
(trilema) mike_c: ah, good news. fixed for me.
(trilema) mike_c: i mean, fuck you! maybe i don't want to update everything
(trilema) mike_c: one of the things it does is run apt-get update &> /dev/null
(trilema) mike_c: really? i guess i'm getting too old for this stuff.
(trilema) mike_c: um, no?
(trilema) mike_c: hehe, step one for the installation of this product i want to try: curl -L https://redacted.sh | sudo bash
(trilema) mike_c: cazalla: belated thanks!
(trilema) mike_c: It's pretty easy, when it cries change its diaper and feed it.
(trilema) mike_c: Ah, good luck
(trilema) mike_c: when are you due?
(trilema) mike_c: thanks :)
(trilema) mike_c: She is amused by my "bitcoin friends"
(trilema) mike_c: Gotta make sure I leave them something better than USD :)
(trilema) mike_c: I think I actually joined this channel a few months after my first kid was born.
(trilema) mike_c: thanks :)
(trilema) mike_c: got it, makes sense.
(trilema) mike_c: meaning on the wiki, as opposed to link to your site
(trilema) mike_c: mod6: any reason not to put your mining maps on the wiki? They look awesome btw.
(trilema) mike_c: nice
(trilema) mike_c: that eulora blog post.. to leave a reply you have to be logged in - to his blog. It takes you to /wp-login/
(trilema) mike_c: Yeah, I am a big proponent.
(trilema) mike_c: Elizabeth
(trilema) mike_c: we've done our part for the species.
(trilema) mike_c: boy and a girl, and we're done.
(trilema) mike_c: thanks!
(trilema) mike_c: ah, likely some unsee JS magic. anyhoo, it was a pic of my new baby girl.
(trilema) mike_c: look what happened to me last week: https://unsee.cc/bitanuse/
(trilema) mike_c: ooh, that sounds nice
(trilema) mike_c: ;;calc (17 * 9 /5) + 32
(trilema) mike_c: smog is bearable, heat and humidity are not.
(trilema) mike_c: Good morning
(trilema) mike_c: bad busy. Time is sucked away on things that aren't worth it.
(trilema) mike_c: got a couple of good blog posts coming up though that are half way done.
(trilema) mike_c: way too busy!
(trilema) mike_c: Who knows. I try not to think about it.
(trilema) mike_c: Sorry for part spam.. different client/computer than usual.
(trilema) mike_c: omg - this better not turn out like the robot ping pong match: http://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/giant-robots-set-to-fight-after-u-s-company-issues-video-challenge-to-japanese-rival-1.2456864
(trilema) mike_c: markets break over the stupid leap second
(trilema) mike_c: but if they muck with ntp they'll break themselves too
(trilema) mike_c: time sucks.
(trilema) mike_c: i was trying to think of some way to use the block hash to determine "who" you ask for timestamps, but the list of "who" is unknowable/proveable.. ends up in the same place.
(trilema) mike_c: block hash is rng
(trilema) mike_c: ah, thanks.
(trilema) mike_c: starts? :) that must be confusing
(trilema) mike_c: goddamn "must complete" gene
(trilema) mike_c: maybe this is why I hate footnotes more than most. most don't read them?
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu: You left us hanging there! Since it's missing, I must know what those points of interest are :)
(trilema) mike_c: yeah
(trilema) mike_c: ben_vulpes: "I want to know who does this: ./proggy -? to get documentation" << that's the default on windows
(trilema) mike_c: kakobrekla: lol :D that's a good one
(trilema) mike_c: ah, yes, well that happenned.
(trilema) mike_c: and i don't know what osanali is
(trilema) mike_c: yes, except my father was there too, so he got some worship as well.
(trilema) mike_c: father's day, spent it by the pool
(trilema) mike_c: only bug I see is euros are way overpriced.
(trilema) mike_c: screenshot? I don't see that.
(trilema) mike_c: heh, yeah. cute little buggers.
(trilema) mike_c: da fuq are those? porcupines?
(trilema) mike_c: it says so on his webpage
(trilema) mike_c: yeah.. i guess i'm thinking about business logic. needs to be separated very cleanly for this to work.
(trilema) mike_c: greater number of software stacks = greater success
(trilema) mike_c: nice
(trilema) mike_c: gernika says their trading engine was written in node.js as of a couple years ago..
(trilema) mike_c: not very DRY
(trilema) mike_c: change in the db, gotta mirror that on both codebases..
(trilema) mike_c: !up gernika
(trilema) mike_c: or you have an api that handles everything they have to talk to each other, which also seems like a pain.
(trilema) mike_c: but you still must have a lot of data sharing. two software stacks that hit the same database? seems problematic to manage
(trilema) mike_c: I'm curious how they handle communication between those pieces
(trilema) mike_c: I know their site runs off django, but i seriously doubt their trading engine is python
(trilema) mike_c: i feel like i have a problem similar to theirs.. I've got a transaction engine running in c#, but websites built in python.
(trilema) mike_c: does anyone around here know anything about the internals of the bitstamp trading engine? or maybe an engineer who works there?
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu: that one isn't ringing a bell, but it looks fun :)
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, i'll have to take another crack at compiling this thing
(trilema) mike_c: if interest held
(trilema) mike_c: so the plan would be to modify client in someway that would then support python scripting
(trilema) mike_c: ah
(trilema) mike_c: jurov: have you been able to write a python script that'll do something in the game?
(trilema) mike_c: yes
(trilema) mike_c: Dozens upon dozens of cartographers died to make it..
(trilema) mike_c: Eulora travelers, here's a map: http://www.eulorum.org/Map
(trilema) mike_c: this eulorum wiki is slow as shit. who the hell is running this thing.
(trilema) mike_c: ;;later tell jurov deterministic behavior for the win. I ran it again and it worked.. thanks!
(trilema) mike_c: crash is in crystalspace-2.1-vc10.dll . ugh.
(trilema) mike_c: ;;later tell jurov new build runs, but crashes after launch screen.
(trilema) mike_c: closer, but still not there :)
(trilema) mike_c: I feel so close yet so far :) jurov: do you think you can crank out a release version or should I hunt down a debug version of the VC libraries?
(trilema) mike_c: ah
(trilema) mike_c: you have the debug VC redistributable file :)
(trilema) mike_c: won't it likely also run quite slowly? is it tough to get release building?
(trilema) mike_c: wouldn't run because missing msvcp100d.dll, the debug version of that library.
(trilema) mike_c: jurov: is that a debug build?
(trilema) mike_c: "But many companies insist that a network or system is sufficiently air-gapped even if it is only separated from other computers or networks by a software firewall." << uh, not that one.
(trilema) mike_c: was an OCZ 1kw power supply for the record.. won't be buying from them again.
(trilema) mike_c: fking ancient manhattan building too.. wouldn't be surprised if the power is dirty
(trilema) mike_c: oh, really? well maybe that was it then. you think it was bad power? cooling fan doesn't seem seized.
(trilema) mike_c: and where the hell did the oil come from?
(trilema) mike_c: it doesn't look exploded though
(trilema) mike_c: one big capacitor has melted plastic, but don't know if that was failed component or just nearby
(trilema) mike_c: update on exploding computer - it was definitely the power supply. some nasty oil stuff came out of it. i don't know what the hell they put in these things.
(trilema) mike_c: nice!
(trilema) mike_c: really? great.
(trilema) mike_c: no visible damage to anything, so can't imagine it was a hard drive, and it was a lot of smoke
(trilema) mike_c: i guess the power supply went bad..
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, never had that happen before.
(trilema) mike_c: my fking computer just died.. couple pops and started belching big smelly clouds of smoke.
(trilema) mike_c: I used to use it as a hot wallet. keep a bit there for access from anywhere. never more than i was willing to lose
(trilema) mike_c: cazalla: I'm going to try dual-booting another box of mine and see if i can get eulora/ubuntu going. I'll post my step-by-step if it works
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu: got the acct info, thanks
(trilema) mike_c: ;;later tell mircea_popescu: requeting 1 eulor acct please
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu: yeah, i saw that. still not so easy without a clean box to get all those specific versions on
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu: didn't know that, i could try that
(trilema) mike_c: i tried to compile windoze version, didn't go so well
(trilema) mike_c: jurov: not to be an ass since you just took the job, but do you have an idea for ballpark on binaries? my ubuntu box has trouble running eulora due to gfx card issues.. just wondering if it's days, weeks, or months.
(trilema) mike_c: like orphan blocks, no?
(trilema) mike_c: slab allocation would prevent fragging too
(trilema) mike_c: the nsa invented bitcoin
(trilema) mike_c: except for europe. i don't think they're going to turn it around
(trilema) mike_c: everybody's bringing their newborns to c4, right?
(trilema) mike_c: hehe
(trilema) mike_c: congrats!
(trilema) mike_c: ah. correct # of fingers and toes?
(trilema) mike_c: ben_vulpes: your baby arrived?
(trilema) mike_c: we gotta get more chinese in here.
(trilema) mike_c: EXCITING :-)" speaking of cults..
(trilema) mike_c: "Excitement!!! Excellence! Launching ahead to better humanity! Ethereum!!! Congratulations!
(trilema) mike_c: I'll put on the list: "make 1-1 trust graph look better" :)
(trilema) mike_c: found the original article on nyt: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/21/business/dealbook/benjamin-lawsky-to-step-down-as-new-yorks-top-financial-regulator.html
(trilema) mike_c: "to start his own legal and consulting firm"
(trilema) mike_c: no.. oddly vague about that. doesn't seem to be a firing.
(trilema) mike_c: our buddy is leaving! http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/20/new-york-lawsky-departure-idUSL1N0YB1N220150520
(trilema) mike_c: I have 2nd. 20th anniversary looks like just a PR thing? not different content?
(trilema) mike_c: davout:gonna get the schneier one to get started << mod6 told me to read this, it is awesome. I feel stupid for not having read it sooner.
(trilema) mike_c: depends what you consider the thing. I mean, an "F35" exists, and some things on it work..
(trilema) mike_c: <isaackl> Yes. Increased utility of bomber planes, USD would buy more << hm, how does the utility of the F35 compare to how much has been spent on it?
(trilema) mike_c: ;;later tell jurov sorry for the wait, found this lying around on my todo list - http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/BBB0A99950037551F533850A677ABD62D0AEE7D7/
(trilema) mike_c: exactly
(trilema) mike_c: <+justJanne> Assuming no corruption, << this is where we enter star trek land?
(trilema) mike_c: thanks! nice things can happen when there is a good foundation to work from.
(trilema) mike_c: box is still standing. yet another reason I need to move to BISP though. it seems ok for now.
(trilema) mike_c: 71k hits
(trilema) mike_c: it was discussed on hacker news. looks like there are a handful of invalid subkeys on the sks servers
(trilema) mike_c: ads look like they're working (technically at least). we'll see if 8chan'ers have any money.
(trilema) mike_c: ;;later tell mircea_popescu: ad ready, see log 5 lines up
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu: you should be able to drop this link in as the source of the iframe: http://www.btcalpha.com/bb_frame.html?height=90&ref=1GiSXgAhjqYvAB17JjXX8YCqNCizCjLJgp
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu, asciilifeform: awesome work guys :)
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu: ok, i can make something like that. headed to a bbq right now, I'll get it going tonight.
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu: iframe?
(trilema) mike_c: I have a script that will do it, not sure if you can use that for your ads? If not, we could either pick a specific bet to promote and link it to that, or link to homepage.
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu: banner created. http://www.btcalpha.com/bb_ad.png?height=90
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, i can whip that up
(trilema) mike_c: what can i do for you?
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu: good afternoon
(trilema) mike_c: i'll add something
(trilema) mike_c: yes
(trilema) mike_c: you should put quotes around stupid crap like that
(trilema) mike_c: good afternoon ben.
(trilema) mike_c: hm, that's not good. they aren't on the b-a page?
(trilema) mike_c: cazalla: yeah.. note that it is a 'since' timestamp. http://w.b-a.link/user/cazalla/
(trilema) mike_c: kakobrekla: what's the current strategy for rating timestamps? Just one stamp that is first-rated?
(trilema) mike_c: that's how it is in the db.
(trilema) mike_c: thx
(trilema) mike_c: cazalla: which rating is it?
(trilema) mike_c: ;;later tell pete_dushenski would surely do the gavin retreat justice on qntra.
(trilema) mike_c: I don't write badly, but I also don't write quickly.. my writing muscles are weak.
(trilema) mike_c: but whatever. as long as it dies.
(trilema) mike_c: That gavin thing has to be written up. I mean.. this is what he chooses to backpedal on?
(trilema) mike_c: qntra's slipping today. Gavin beats a hasty retreat and new Bitcoin ISP.
(trilema) mike_c: that is a cool idea. yes.
(trilema) mike_c: anyway, kudos mircea_popescu. are you going to publish a price sheet or is it case-by-case?
(trilema) mike_c: I guess because everyone except me is already on the damn thing.
(trilema) mike_c: how is the being passed over without comment? Real actual bitcoin hosting! very cool.
(trilema) mike_c: ah, good news.
(trilema) mike_c: those are the same cert, no?
(trilema) mike_c: that help?
(trilema) mike_c: i've got a public key
(trilema) mike_c: yeah..
(trilema) mike_c: or maybe this? 00 b8 d9 04 8e 1d f6 05 6d 9e 3d fa e7 d6 16 4d f9
(trilema) mike_c: hm
(trilema) mike_c: 6c be 5c 74 ce 25 a3 83 8c 96 8e fe a9 ec 59 1f 0a 13 8a 7e
(trilema) mike_c: yes
(trilema) mike_c: thumbprint: 13 d2 41 7e f3 49 a0 5c 4f 75 2a ef e6 10 c5 c4 95 70 2d df
(trilema) mike_c: KeyID=90 af 6a 3a 94 5a 0b d8 90 ea 12 56 73 df 43 b4 3a 28 da e7
(trilema) mike_c: comodo sha256 cert good through 11/15
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu: ah, yes, I added a better page for not found users, but not on the trust page. will fix.
(trilema) mike_c: i guess they haven't read mp's "you're too late" post
(trilema) mike_c: "it looks like Goldman Sachs wants to get in on the ground floor."
(trilema) mike_c: ;;later tell mats I fixed the bug and added a better 'user not found' page. thx again.
(trilema) mike_c: I overheard the other day that there was a dislike for newer versions of gpg. has anyone written up a blog post or something about why?
(trilema) mike_c: alternatively, a simple 'fingerprint not found' would suffice
(trilema) mike_c: Ideally? It's a fingerprint search. So if it misses, I would have it search sks for the fingerprint and show a page asking if you'd like to add that key.
(trilema) mike_c: ah, so many fewer misses? yeah, there's no rush
(trilema) mike_c: maybe a very simple "not found" page?
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu, asciilifeform: here's my problem. Sending my loyal customers to this page is a bad user experience. http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgfp/8680FD3C9D20B92FBEF3D058FD5A63B9EAC2A55E
(trilema) mike_c: mats: thanks for the bug report. will be fixed soon.
(trilema) mike_c: grazie
(trilema) MIKE_c: !register flub
(trilema) mike_c: nvmnd
(trilema) mike_c: !register MIKE_c
(trilema) mike_c: !register mike_c
(trilema) mike_c: kakobrekla: are the usernames case sensitive? could there be a KAKObrekla and a kakobrekla?
(trilema) mike_c: is this shit case sensitive or not?
(trilema) mike_c: oh ffs
(trilema) mike_c: well that's odd.
(trilema) mike_c: fiverr call girl: https://www.fiverr.com/katiescarlett/talk-to-you-about-anything
(trilema) mike_c: hehe
(trilema) mike_c: he'll design your circuits for you! for $5!
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu: thanks, but can't imagine what I would do with it. maybe ascii wants it :) https://www.fiverr.com/jakky91/draw-any-circuit-diagram-or-pcb-layout
(trilema) mike_c: not at all, suggestions and feedback are welcome
(trilema) mike_c: mod6: maybe yes, I'm exploring that.
(trilema) mike_c: great
(trilema) mike_c: JS date parser was choking on former
(trilema) mike_c: changing the date format helped. went from AP style "Dec. 12, 2012", "April 12, 2012" to more simple short format "Dec 12, 2012", "Apr 12, 2012"
(trilema) mike_c: k. i also fixed the big wot graph cutting off some names on the sides
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu: try now - http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/davout/
(trilema) mike_c: yes, it would be, but then don't I get into arguments with the europeans?
(trilema) mike_c: yes..
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu: you're not crazy. sorting the timestamps works in chrome, not in FF. I'll investigate.
(trilema) mike_c: nginx always works. I have never been disappointed in it. Recommending shit to people is always a -EV process, but..
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu: you could install nginx and not install varnish. it will cache shit quite nicely
(trilema) mike_c: s/100/0/
(trilema) mike_c: this HYIP sounds awesome. put me down for 500% of it.
(trilema) mike_c: maybe he forgot that aug 2014 actually did come after april 2013
(trilema) mike_c: <+mircea_popescu> mike_c hm, the timestamp gets sorted weirdly (alphabetical, so aug 2014 is after april 2013 etc) << looks right to me. link?
(trilema) mike_c: chetty: cool pic! kinda sad to see boxy go :)
(trilema) mike_c: like: location *.png { rewrite }
(trilema) mike_c: it's whatever the server says to do
(trilema) mike_c: it's not a jpg really
(trilema) mike_c: and sure, I'll save a copy of the graph. Trivial for anyone to do with right-click, save-as