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shinohai: (if on a glibc system)
asciilifeform: it's fucking insulting to one's intelligence to see '200 byte hex monitor' 'but also glibc, gcc, guile, but Doesn't Count Because Reasons'
asciilifeform: lol demands glibc
bitbot: (therealbitcoin) 2020-07-08 jurov: For the record, I should mention that rotor needs glibc <2.28 on build system because it moved some include files which break the bootstraping of m4.
billymg: asciilifeform: not on newer ones with glibc > 2.28
billymg: there are patches available for m4 to get around the >=glibc 2.28 problem, one was even included in my stock system's m4 ebuild
dulapbot: (therealbitcoin) 2020-07-08 jurov: For the record, I should mention that rotor needs glibc <2.28 on build system because it moved some include files which break the bootstraping of m4.
asciilifeform: billymg: unless you went to special lengths to get a musltronic gentoo, yea it's glibc
billymg: signpost, asciilifeform: i believe my system is glibc currently rather than musl
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: 0 to do with my 'fossilized gentoo' at all, mine is a more modest effort to simply preserve the 2016 era glibc-based traditional gentoo and various packages.
snsabot: Logged on 2020-12-16 12:11:49 asciilifeform: cgra: neato. (btw, in case wasn't obvious, the gnat used by asciilifeform for ffa work has been glibc-free since ch11)
asciilifeform: cgra: neato. (btw, in case wasn't obvious, the gnat used by asciilifeform for ffa work has been glibc-free since ch11)
cgra: the course i'm now attending for my sane computing curriculum, is binary auditability. atm i'm carving out the glibc bloat and trinque's musl bootstrap seemed like a suitable ingredient. i just finished building it and came to report the results so far
trinque: I have not had much luck bootstrapping from a glibc system
trinque: asciilifeform: btw your dulap image is glibc
asciilifeform: Aerthean: building a musl-based gcc toolchain is not so hard; the harder thing is getting 100% of proggies to actually build in it (for some, trivial, for others -- e.g. emacs -- yet-unsolved afaik , some of'em use glibcisms specifically )
asciilifeform: Aerthean: actually this gentoo still based on traditional glibc. static linking in it still has to be done by building a separate gcc + toolchain, or using ave1's gnat , or similar.
snsabot: Logged on 2020-08-08 15:02:45 asciilifeform: there in fact is commercial soft for linux, that is normally distributed as static (or quasi-static, when glibc victims) binaries.
asciilifeform: that being said, the fungus is in his brain nao, and you can safely bet money that eventually 'oops we broke it, but dunworry, get latest glibc'.
asciilifeform: there in fact is commercial soft for linux, that is normally distributed as static (or quasi-static, when glibc victims) binaries.
asciilifeform: drepper's sabotage of static linking took place in glibc and nowhere else.
asciilifeform: whether ye olde pieceofshit glibc, or the moar compact musl, ultimately all work same way.
asciilifeform: for yet-further ref -- glibcistic gnat rts weighs ~1MB; musltronic -- 300k; a theoretically minimal (per ffa) one would weight coupla kB.
asciilifeform: i did this for trb in '15 ; ave1 for gnat in '18; and trinque is taking the subj to logical conclusion and baking a usable 100% glibc-free linuxism
asciilifeform: i.e. to replace it with compact and ~100% compat. libc 'musl'. (1st requires building gcc, bintools, etc. ~under~ musl, because gcc that has been contaminated with glibc can ~only~ build w/ glibc.. )
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-07-26#1017239 << there's ~6 years of history here ( and that's simply from asciilifeform's pov, other folx struggled longer. ) in '15, found that glibc project has been operated by wreckers, for years. and deliberately sneaks dyn. loads into 'static' builds. after some work, found cure -- to throw glibc the fuck out.
shinohai: Latest glibc "update" broke ~75% of coins.
shinohai: nb ... glibc gets more liquidy every passing day anyways.
shinohai: In other interesting gentoo stuff, one of the girls acquired new lappy and I installed gentoo on it. If you try and build trb on it, does not work - glibc causes buildroot step to fail with "error "Please port gnulib fseeko.c to your platform!"
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