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(trilema) mike_c: wow. the mttf on that must be measured in seconds
(trilema) mike_c: then i recommend the simona halep bitbet. free money.
(trilema) mike_c: bitcoins aren't fiat, you don't need moar! they don't lose value!
(trilema) mike_c: those have charts, but not seeing historical trade data. i guess i'll wait for bitcoincharts api to come back
(trilema) mike_c: grr, bitcoincharts 502 (again). anybody know another good place to get gox trade history?
(trilema) mike_c: get ur 10 btc ready to drop on that bitbet
(trilema) mike_c: greece wants to be part of euro
(trilema) mike_c: so.. you did a hg clone and charged them 250 hopefully :)
(trilema) mike_c: bitstamp is a django shop, maybe you can borrow theirs :)
(trilema) mike_c: bitbet feature request: bitbet.us/bet/[id]/data.json returns json object with relevant bet information. weighted no/yes, current weight, etc.
(trilema) mike_c: and refused to try to understand double spending
(trilema) mike_c: i guess frustrating because i tried the same when he was crying in this channel, and got just as far.
(trilema) mike_c: "I understand that it's hard not to take it personally when you've lost BTC, but no, seriously, if you're into BTC I think it'd be great if you spent the time and the energy (this isn't "condescension", again; it takes a lot of time and energy, far more than most people are used to expending, to wisely and correctly handle Bitcoin"
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, like actually trying to explain things to him
(trilema) mike_c: it's frustrating that mpoe-pr was actually respectful and helpful for most of that conversation, and snackman just kept crying and not listening.
(trilema) mike_c: seems sorted..
(trilema) mike_c: extra graphics cards? i'm gunna be rich
(trilema) mike_c: mebbe i'm confused
(trilema) mike_c: i don't get it, of course its bullshit. total received = 0
(trilema) mike_c: average iq
(trilema) mike_c: upon waking, it will either be at 100 or 2000
(trilema) mike_c: can't find ascii's hint, guess i'll have to wait for the update.
(trilema) mike_c: 10 days. wow.
(trilema) mike_c: looking forward to it.
(trilema) mike_c: like, plug me into a computer and get an actually good stream of random numbers.
(trilema) mike_c: i keep thinking.. the rng on that thing should be saleable in itself.
(trilema) mike_c: today was a good day to grab a bag of popcorn and watch the ticker.
(trilema) mike_c: feel smarter?
(trilema) mike_c: i think the chinese are running this show. we're going where they take us.
(trilema) mike_c: bubble popped :) 900 -> 700 in 2 minutes
(trilema) mike_c: sorry snack, free lesson is over.
(trilema) mike_c: 900 btc until china hits 1k
(trilema) mike_c: snackman: here it is without snark. say your bet lost. all you would have to do is send a different transaction with a fee that would get confirmed first and you didn't lose anything.
(trilema) mike_c: good thing you didn't run satoshi dice :)
(trilema) mike_c: transactions are not valid until confirmation. preferably a few.
(trilema) mike_c: because that's not "what the bitcoin network is about"
(trilema) mike_c: what an odd statement: transactions should be considered valid on broadcast, not confirmation?
(trilema) mike_c: all those jokes about the 666 bitcoin price were good for about 10 minutes :)
(trilema) mike_c: well, there goes the bet nuggie.
(trilema) mike_c: seriously, the strikes just changed.. two weeks ago?
(trilema) mike_c: 9 minutes of volatility. but it is too hard (afaik) to convert many yuan into dollars.
(trilema) mike_c: ;;interval
(trilema) mike_c: yuan -> dollars is slow, but not so volatile
(trilema) mike_c: yes yes, the core part being the part that is volatile.
(trilema) mike_c: The core part of the loop should only be ~10 minutes, no? dollar -> btc, instant. btc -> btchina, 10 minutes? btchina -> yuan, instant.
(trilema) mike_c: if only.. that is not an easy arbitrage loop.
(trilema) mike_c: hah! senator just asked if al gore might have created bitcoin (he was kidding)
(trilema) mike_c: right, but bet satisfaction doesn't always have a fixed date, like in this case.
(trilema) mike_c: ehh, i disagree. too steep of a time weight just kills the bet too early (my opinion, i'm not connected to bitbet)
(trilema) mike_c: or you could say it disincentivizes people from trying to snipe bets at the end :)
(trilema) mike_c: i don't that is a win yet anyway. bet is above 750, and current high is 750.0
(trilema) mike_c: 4 minutes old, a lifetime.
(trilema) mike_c: ;;asks 750
(trilema) mike_c: you could make 8% in a flash.
(trilema) mike_c: only congress could make bitcoin so boring that i want to sell all of mine and never think about them again.
(trilema) mike_c: fincen is testifying before congress, and mtgox goes to shit. coincidence?
(trilema) mike_c: thanks, that's helpful.
(trilema) mike_c: wow, that is worth a mention. very interesting.
(trilema) mike_c: like the trades?
(trilema) mike_c: ok. i am still intrigued in the fund, but am having trouble getting over the lack of information :) are you willing to discuss the fund's strategy at all? like "it's not a martingale".
(trilema) mike_c: kakobrekla: how much do you need to invest in panacea to get custom leverage?
(trilema) mike_c: i think it's particleboard
(trilema) mike_c: ah, so you like to pay 2x for the logo on the box :)
(trilema) mike_c: probably iOS
(trilema) mike_c: nubs, what are you running?
(trilema) mike_c: adult things like donkey porn!
(trilema) mike_c: i think the donkey porn site i like keeps infecting my internet explorer
(trilema) mike_c: yes, i have to pay 2 btc about once a week to keep this thing running
(trilema) mike_c: um, i have a virtualbox running with ubuntu. i am putty'd into a few linux boxes. (but i'm running windoze)
(trilema) mike_c: i did, for a few years out of college
(trilema) mike_c: fine. then fuck all of you too.
(trilema) mike_c: analogy. underage kids don't get punished, new graduate can be forgiven one career mistake. keep up nubbins :)
(trilema) mike_c: right, but, like you don't punish underage kids for stupidity.. maybe a new graduate could be forgiven working at ms for a few years, if they then quit.
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, but, maybe someone came right out of college and didn't know better. maybe they should be spared.
(trilema) mike_c: that's like.. 200,000 people. maybe ex-employees can be spared?
(trilema) mike_c: ;;google site:trilema.com bitbet
(trilema) mike_c: havelock, or probably bitcoin-otc
(trilema) mike_c: ah, by "test" you meant pull the power and push buttons.
(trilema) mike_c: why would a ups crash your computer? that does not make sense.
(trilema) mike_c: they are 10x lower than they used to be. how cheap you want them?
(trilema) mike_c: heh. just tried using assbot for mpex order for the first time. pretty nifty. nice job kako.
(trilema) mike_c: hopefully not bitbet.us
(trilema) mike_c: and who is bitbet.com pretending to be?
(trilema) mike_c: and then you end up with..
(trilema) mike_c: ah, but eventually you can elect a mommy that does give you cake.
(trilema) mike_c: not much of an achievement to pwn donahue, but still fun to watch :)
(trilema) mike_c: 0.25 btc!
(trilema) mike_c: No, you add your cards through their mobile app
(trilema) mike_c: "starts shipping summer 2014". riight.
(trilema) mike_c: it's in there, trust us
(trilema) mike_c: so that's why :)
(trilema) mike_c: and coinroll.info
(trilema) mike_c: it is also on the whois for coinroll.org
(trilema) mike_c: my govt is "the government"
(trilema) mike_c: that too.
(trilema) mike_c: tl;dr - the government is screwing you
(trilema) mike_c: Today in history. Nov. 13, 2010: $0.30 2011: $3 2012: $11 2013: $410
(trilema) mike_c: yes. that.
(trilema) mike_c: fbi has 177k
(trilema) mike_c: plus those blinking eyes are annoying as hell
(trilema) mike_c: two modes now. new one can be account betting. old one still available http://legacy.satoshidice.com/
(trilema) mike_c: kakobrekla ah, yeah. ok, not as impressive.
(trilema) mike_c: cool site. BTC is 100 biggest currency in the world. http://coinometrics.com/bitcoin/bmix
(trilema) mike_c: time to cut and run dooglus!
(trilema) mike_c: nubbins`: right, he can buy back at .00105 so it gets very risky to pay more than that for it because you might not have long to get dividends to make up difference. asks are basically right at .00105.
(trilema) mike_c: well, it likely dropped recently when TAT implied he might forcefully buy some back.
(trilema) mike_c: asciilifeform: for your testing today. http://www.xkcd.com/1277/
(trilema) mike_c: still looking good for xmas availability? my wife is dying for one.
(trilema) mike_c: i guess you failed at it :D
(trilema) mike_c: benkay you are going to die of an ulcer within two years.
(trilema) mike_c: that's him trying to hire, not looking for work :)
(trilema) mike_c: they created it like that out of habit, not out of a thought-out decision as to what would be best these days.
(trilema) mike_c: wow, nice.
(trilema) mike_c: that office is amazing. love the beach view.
(trilema) mike_c: congress will make bitcoin extremely easy in the US as soon as they figure out it can hide campaign contributions
(trilema) mike_c: they gotta put all those coins to work. heh, maybe the fbi bought all the puts.
(trilema) mike_c: ;;calc 317 / 1.5327
(trilema) mike_c: it's the max?
(trilema) mike_c: well, then I am enjoying being excited at these kinds of things still :) Another year and I will be blase.
(trilema) mike_c: break-even at 193
(trilema) mike_c: ;;calc 300 / 1.55
(trilema) mike_c: ;;calc 300 / .55
(trilema) mike_c: but pool doesn't have control of all the funds to drop down a 1k hedge, do they?
(trilema) mike_c: if it is a speculator, i don't care how big their stash is. that's a big bet!
(trilema) mike_c: so, a miner is happy to spend 300k in insurance for 3 weeks?
(trilema) mike_c: 1100 btc in puts is a bold bet.
(trilema) mike_c: man, i hope he's going to hedge that
(trilema) mike_c: 500 btc put? no comment?
(trilema) mike_c: won't be able to buy atm options in a week
(trilema) mike_c: gonna need bigger strikes on mpex soon!
(trilema) mike_c: ;;bc,24hprc
(trilema) mike_c: wow, mpoe only has two gaps all year (the outages). other than that, traded every day.
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, looking at numbers it's not unusual. there have been a bunch of times this year that bbet went 3 or more days without trading.
(trilema) mike_c: 0 volume on s.mg, s.nsa, s.bbet since sunday. bubble scaring investors maybe, turning them into hoarders..
(trilema) mike_c: let me spoon feed it to you :D "John K logged on, replied, and released the escrow funds today."
(trilema) mike_c: hehe, nice nubbins
(trilema) mike_c: to the mars!
(trilema) mike_c: being successful is anti-american, didn't you know?
(trilema) mike_c: about the new nyc mayor: [joe blow] "called Mr. de Blasio the best hope for slowing the growth of luxury condominiums that crowd his Manhattan neighborhood."
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, thx
(trilema) mike_c: what's the official number?
(trilema) mike_c: 10 i believe.
(trilema) mike_c: nvm, they fixed it
(trilema) mike_c: hehe. gox lag is only, what, 10 minutes?
(trilema) mike_c: $vwap s.mpoe
(trilema) mike_c: hm, mpex market maker bot is dead, website is slow. somebody knocked over the hamster wheel..
(trilema) mike_c: gee, i remember just 4 days ago having a conversation about whether we'd hit 230 this month..
(trilema) mike_c: joel spolsky
(trilema) mike_c: i will share all the prize money with you benkay
(trilema) mike_c: ah, glad to hear.
(trilema) mike_c: then you would know how to identify art.
(trilema) mike_c: is he kidding? or did john k show his face again?
(trilema) mike_c: no, an ADMIN
(trilema) mike_c: went from 1 btc to 2? congrats!
(trilema) mike_c: it's one of those arguments that when you hear it, your ears start to bleed a little.
(trilema) mike_c: it doesn't mean anything. What they mean when they say it is that it isn't backed by anything of value. you know, like gold.
(trilema) mike_c: it could be dangerous!
(trilema) mike_c: hehe. chrome hates eulora
(trilema) mike_c: do you ever plan to work out of github? or just occasionally update the code you have on there.
(trilema) mike_c: eulora is 800mb already? whoa.
(trilema) mike_c: hm, so when i quantify that I have an infection I can.. get my prescription how?
(trilema) mike_c: "The Quantified Self movement helps people self-measure and opt out of the health care system"
(trilema) mike_c: asciilifeform you just made me dumber. thanks.
(trilema) mike_c: ultrasonic, like badbios
(trilema) mike_c: then you will probably say "no" at that time as well :)
(trilema) mike_c: ok. i will come back and try again in a few months
(trilema) mike_c: but it would take more capital to act on it.
(trilema) mike_c: ok. i would in fact be fine with announcing the excercise, but not returning the capital.
(trilema) mike_c: i'm blanking
(trilema) mike_c: we know when they are sold, but knowing when they are excercised would..
(trilema) mike_c: i'm trying to figure out what problem the information would aggravate?
(trilema) mike_c: not during the month
(trilema) mike_c: no, all excercises are calculated and assigned at end-of-month
(trilema) mike_c: no, you won't. that's my issue.
(trilema) mike_c: er, option writer
(trilema) mike_c: sort of they are though. when excercises are assigned the option holder knows about it
(trilema) mike_c: i was hoping to sway you.
(trilema) mike_c: um, last time you just said it "wasn't standard"
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu: i want to make one more push for announcing option exercises to assbot. it is the only way to know two things: 1) open interest 2) excercise costs. otherwise it's just a big mystery when/if the option holders are excercising and, not that mpex would ever make a mistake, there is no way for me to verify the excercise costs.
(trilema) mike_c: and it hasn't sold to the panamanians.
(trilema) mike_c: well, that was fun. good times everyone.
(trilema) mike_c: but the market has spoken.
(trilema) mike_c: yes.. lower than i was hoping for.
(trilema) mike_c: good buy somebody.
(trilema) mike_c: with 30 seconds left
(trilema) mike_c: auction is over in 2 minutes. last chance. http://mpex.co/?mpsic=O.USD.C200T
(trilema) mike_c: ok.. if anybody is lurking and waiting to snipe these, you are running out of time. down to 0.16
(trilema) mike_c: 1 btc per option seems stiff
(trilema) mike_c: although your collateral requirements for options seem to account for it..
(trilema) mike_c: also, different conversation, 10k usd / btc does not seem impossible to me :)
(trilema) mike_c: it's implied volatility.
(trilema) mike_c: the rate of change of the underlying is not even a factor in option pricing.
(trilema) mike_c: 0.12 does not represent much volatitlity at all. even 0.2 is a great buy
(trilema) mike_c: it's about volatility, not where the price is
(trilema) mike_c: man.. i'm gunna get reamed on this. down to 0.2
(trilema) mike_c: ;; calc 200 / 0.8
(trilema) mike_c: about to drop to 0.2
(trilema) mike_c: price is dropping every 5 minutes
(trilema) mike_c: which means it's a shell corp, no?
(trilema) mike_c: if that's accurate, the directors are on the board of a ton of companies.
(trilema) mike_c: for inspiration, last month people who bought my options made 28%. that's damn near 1% a day. price dropped.
(trilema) mike_c: we'll see. price dropped. one bidder already at 0.1215!
(trilema) mike_c: i heard a rumor there were smart investors in this channel
(trilema) mike_c: unless a smart investor picks them up
(trilema) mike_c: ready set go!
(trilema) mike_c: every 5 minutes I'm going to drop the price 0.02 until somebody buys them.
(trilema) mike_c: I've got 40 calls up at 200: http://mpex.co/?mpsic=O.USD.C200T currently selling for 0.32
(trilema) mike_c: Let's try and auction off some options
(trilema) mike_c: I'm going to try something.. maybe stupid but we'll see.
(trilema) mike_c: holy shit i thought you were kidding. DaaS is real :D only $25 a month for 100gigs!
(trilema) mike_c: you'll get those mails after the etf comes out
(trilema) mike_c: even 0.5% of bankroll is too big for long-term success. the drawdowns will be big and the investors are not ready for it
(trilema) mike_c: i don't think he understands what the swings will be like often - and i know his investors dont
(trilema) mike_c: the whole "1% max bet", then get beat up, then down to 0.25, looks like now its 0.5
(trilema) mike_c: i think dooglus has a good heart and no clue how to run a casino.
(trilema) mike_c: you an investor?
(trilema) mike_c: yes, totally different than non-voting stock :)
(trilema) mike_c: etf tracking the performance on panacea.
(trilema) mike_c: right. it's an etf that is 100% invested in.. your company. right?
(trilema) mike_c: it'll be nice having a non-mp company on there, just for variety sake.
(trilema) mike_c: etf on mpex?
(trilema) mike_c: that only works if the asset manager is working a big enough opportunity. which forex obviously is.
(trilema) mike_c: but i guess not much.
(trilema) mike_c: well, to be fair, a dividend stream does reduce the trust factor a little
(trilema) mike_c: with profit paid as dividends?
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