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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00082729 = 17.5385 BTC [+] {2}
Namworld: I got one of those, nubbins'
nubbins`: they're popular this time of year
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18705 @ 0.00082832 = 15.4937 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.057 = 0.171 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 565 @ 0.00602619 = 3.4048 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.05689999 = 0.2845 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 0.825118 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00165352723352 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 256.10002, Best ask: 259.87162, Bid-ask spread: 3.77160, Last trade: 256.10002, 24 hour volume: 51122.17559255, 24 hour low: 233.00000, 24 hour high: 269.79999, 24 hour vwap: 251.45379
BingoBoingo: E, I've sold for higher before. Reckon I'll sell for higher again.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.000823 = 5.5964 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: Is it me or does -otc get poorer and stupider everytime I go there?
Namworld: ... yes
mircea_popescu: see ? if you went there less bitcoin community'd be smarter
BingoBoingo: Bitcoin needs less "community'ing" and more anti community'ing.
mircea_popescu: less posing moar doing
mircea_popescu: tall order.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I've got 5 n00bs since I /join'd -otc wanting to trade... ;;ident'ing and telling them maybe in March
mircea_popescu: is sturles still around ?
pigeons: yes he is
mircea_popescu: guy will eventually get a monument.
mircea_popescu: perhaps in the shape of a cherry.
BingoBoingo: A double cherry truck?
mircea_popescu: see, sturles is a prolific first timer with many noobs, helping them get a rating
mircea_popescu: has been, for years.
BingoBoingo: I know.
BingoBoingo: The 1BTC for PPusd guy
BingoBoingo: Exactly why I didn't care to get into his WOT
mircea_popescu: so the cherry has nothing to do with trucks, more to do with poppin'.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo well, people have to start somewhere.
Apocalyptic: i'm in WoT thanks to him
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, my first rating came from repping you on a dying and now dead QandA site it seems
mircea_popescu: o i remember this
mircea_popescu: was it that guy's with the "i reported mtgox to spanish rural police because karpeles didn't send me his id" guy
pigeons: that is paripain
mircea_popescu: that was it neh ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Od course you do. It was indeed that dude's site. Can't even log in there anymoar
pigeons: aka the muppet
mircea_popescu: pigeons well he presumably smarted up over time
pigeons: hopefully
BingoBoingo: pigeons: THere are more muppety, mircea_popescu I don't think he did. I walked away eventually.
mircea_popescu: o, this was the cats wasn't it.
mircea_popescu: "find the one cat pic on trilema", cause i recalled there being one
mircea_popescu: turned out there were like... five ?
BingoBoingo: Yeah, kakobrekla won
BingoBoingo: And I offered the rabbit in the pot as a cat
BingoBoingo: Bitcoin was still so innocent this spring. I mean there was a foundation and everything.
BingoBoingo: Vessenses hadn't sold himself to the poor house yet...
Apocalyptic: is this guy still in BTC business ?
mircea_popescu: in the sense shakaru is, sure.
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: Apparently he still runs the thing that calls itself the foundation.
Apocalyptic: oh right, forgot about that one
Apocalyptic: he seems to be better at it than at running coinlab, go figure why
pigeons: zhoutong runs the exchange that gavin uses and nefario got vc money to run a UK exchange
pigeons: no need to hide
pigeons: you can stay
BingoBoingo: Every fall Bitcoin cleanses itself of some scams. Let us hope there is still moar cleansing this fall to come.
pigeons: mybitcoin was so stupid to actually pay 49%
pigeons: and not to reopen
pigeons: but it doesnt
mircea_popescu: pigeons you know, just because the scammer group is pushing each other's scams doesn't really mean all that much.
mircea_popescu: if you ask the various fiat scammers they all recommend each other's sites too.
pigeons: very true
mircea_popescu: anyway, gtg for now. don't make it go to 1k or stupid shit like that.
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 259.09996, Best ask: 259.10000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00004, Last trade: 259.10000, 24 hour volume: 51513.13054677, 24 hour low: 233.00000, 24 hour high: 269.79999, 24 hour vwap: 251.68567
BingoBoingo: Ugh, n00b on -otc is offering me $300 a coin...
Apocalyptic: BingoBoingo, lulz, who ?
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: Some dickbag named broz... Apparently they have a loan to pay.
Apocalyptic: he's a scammer
Apocalyptic: stole some MP recently
Apocalyptic: look he's not authed and his hostmask is .ru
Apocalyptic: seems legit
BingoBoingo: Eh, He auth'd for me for all of 3 minutes. Still not trusting them since they wanted to buy 10 BTC at $300 a coin.
Apocalyptic: why would he deauth ?
BingoBoingo: Probably to scam?
pircea_momescu: BingoBoingo it's a scam !
Apocalyptic: if you can't tell it's a scam...
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: That last site looks like nothing. I don't load JS from dirty sources like teh Googlez
Apocalyptic: you still can view the site without JS
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: The actual -otc WOT website degrades better without JS though.
BingoBoingo: Also fuck google
Apocalyptic: that reminds me I have to strip this google analytics thing from mine
Apocalyptic: as mircea said running a btc finance service with GA is moronic
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: Well, did you listen when our better spoke? I do mean better as opposed to bettor, because when it comes to bettors I still might percentage wise be the winningest bettor on BitBet.
BingoBoingo: From -otc 02:27 <sc4rface> i hear 1024 should be broken this year and 2048 in 2 more, but my understanding is they will only be targeted decryptions and take quite some time even with each one, even 512 has only had a handful of messages decrypted right? i 100% agree iwth you but i am curious if they can decode everything
BingoBoingo: 02:30 <BingoBoingo> ... 4096 should be safe for the next decade or two. If you want to embrace the crypto currency embracing the crypto is kind of important no?
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: I was the one who put 1BTC on S.DIce versus S.BBET in February...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6551 @ 0.00082595 = 5.4108 BTC [+]
Apocalyptic: do any of you guys use BitMessage ?
BingoBoingo: I don't trust EC crypto that much. Maybe when they refactor Bitmessage to work off of RSA coin maybe.
Apocalyptic: i trust EC based crypto much more than RSA...
BingoBoingo: Really... RSA comes from the era when the NSA diddled algoriths like DES to actually make them stronger... just use long keys.
BingoBoingo: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00082443 = 7.5848 BTC [-] {2}
Diablo-D3: I wish icebreaker would quit making up shit
Diablo-D3: "He could go to direct shares like Cog, Cipher, and even ACTM."
Diablo-D3: I dont think those people actually exist
Diablo-D3: Ive never heard of them
truffles: icebreakers gum?
Diablo-D3: truffles: no, a troll on the forums
truffles: that word is thrown around a lot though
Diablo-D3: it applies to him
Diablo-D3: he likes to blame people for things that never happened just to get a reaction out of them
truffles: i dont know him so i cant comment
Diablo-D3: be glad you're not on the forums then
truffles: more penis waving on forums
Diablo-D3: for example
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Diablo-D3: I dont think he even knows what those words even mean
truffles: "Capitalism requires good investments being rewarded and bad ones being punished." that sounds reasonable
Diablo-D3: sure, and when you find a country that does capitalism, I'm sure that will be good advice.
truffles: money is power after all
truffles: dont think he's a troll, seems he has views u dont like
Diablo-D3: hes never said anything that actually makes sense from what Ive seen
Diablo-D3: its not that I dont like his views
Diablo-D3: its that he doesnt actually HAVE views
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.74985713 = 5.249 BTC [+] {4}
truffles: i find that when ppl have very rigid set of ideas on life its kinda hard to convince them of anything else
Diablo-D3: maybe thats what his problem is
truffles: u seem really smart so i can in some ways see why u have some blinders on : d
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00082473 = 4.8247 BTC [+]
truffles: im gonna end up on auto pilot and ure gonna think im trolling : (
Diablo-D3: truffles: basically, hes been attacking the company I ran (and shut down a few days ago) since day one
truffles: ohh i see
Diablo-D3: I dont know why, and hes never given a straight answer why
truffles: i think u know why
Diablo-D3: well, yes, its because I think hes a troll
Diablo-D3: the problem is, hes not a very good one
truffles: there are finite reasons why
Diablo-D3: so all I can do is keep reporting his posts
benkay: ;;ticker --market all
truffles: fail
Diablo-D3: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD last: 265.80000, vol: 52568.60541219 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 256.83, vol: 51990.05219134 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 250.49, vol: 28377.34717 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 244.96, vol: 943.78280182 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 263.3805, vol: 56120.22300000 | Volume-weighted last average: 260.240741012
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 265.00000, Best ask: 266.09500, Bid-ask spread: 1.09500, Last trade: 264.96007, 24 hour volume: 52568.60541219, 24 hour low: 233.00000, 24 hour high: 269.79999, 24 hour vwap: 252.17514
benkay: really now, truffles
truffles: hi benkay
benkay: o/
truffles: hows life
Diablo-D3: truffles: but he can troll me no longer
truffles: he's banned?
Diablo-D3: no, I shut the company down after paying back shareholders almost 200%.
truffles: oh whyd u do that?
truffles: he's that harsh on u?
Diablo-D3: I did it because there was no way forwards with the company
truffles: but u started it?
benkay: truffles: there's a log.
Diablo-D3: truffles: not enough investors
truffles: link me benkay
Diablo-D3: truffles: company made money, but not enough to get anywhere.
truffles: u can always go somewhere with money!
benkay: ;;later tell nubbins' "i think analog bitcoins are a hilariously stupid idea"
gribble: The operation succeeded.
Diablo-D3: truffles: not for what the company was doing
Diablo-D3: anyhow, Im going to bed
truffles: money isnt an issue for u it seems
benkay: truffles: log.bitcoin-assets.com
Diablo-D3: money isnt an issue for the company.
truffles: nor u!
Diablo-D3: truffles: I wouldnt say Im rich.
truffles: i would if u can walk away like that
Diablo-D3: Walk away like what?
truffles: ^stuff u said
truffles: i have no backgroup for what ur company was etc
Diablo-D3: You mean paying back almost 200% of the original investment?
truffles: ground*
Diablo-D3: DMC was my company. It was trying to build a ultra efficient data center for high density customers
truffles: it feels like u just threw in the towel
Diablo-D3: and use a small part of it for mining
Diablo-D3: the investment market collapsed before enough money came in.
truffles: benkay why dont u tell me the relevant parts
Diablo-D3: DMC made an investment in asicminer, which made a fair bit of money
truffles: well i gather that ure rly smart hence why it feels that way
Diablo-D3: DMC raised about 1% of the money that it needed
Diablo-D3: so it really couldn't go forwards
Diablo-D3: I just dont think bitcoin is ready for projects that big yet
truffles: i wouldnt know..
benkay: ;;later tell nubbins "i think analog bitcoins are a hilariously stupid idea"
gribble: The operation succeeded.
truffles: are a hmm
benkay: truffles: relevant parts eh
truffles: stop being coy, just say it
benkay: exchange rate and steak are great in argentina
benkay: fuck off i am expending energy i never planned to in repeating myself for you
truffles: u just did with nubbins though
truffles: so angry
benkay: no coffee
benkay: :(
benkay: do note that one of those was for nubbins' and one for nubbins
benkay: anyways
truffles: whats the tastiest thing uve had in argentina?
benkay: cunt
benkay: although i did also have a delightful cafe con crema yesterday
truffles: thats not a nice word u know
benkay: what? cunts are great and delicious.
truffles: what about food
truffles: coffee is ...
benkay: had a pretty good steak last night and some handmade tortellini
truffles: nothing traditionally made there?
benkay: not yet
benkay: still finding my bearings
truffles: u should try http://ukcdn.ar-cdn.com/recipes/xlarge/3289fe63-2d5f-44ae-b077-8608c9c63e68.jpg dulce de leche mousse if its on any of ur menu's
truffles: unless ure not into sweet stuff
truffles: obv i have to make it this week now!
jurov: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 268.74000, Best ask: 268.84999, Bid-ask spread: 0.10999, Last trade: 268.84999, 24 hour volume: 51643.90168932, 24 hour low: 233.00000, 24 hour high: 270.00000, 24 hour vwap: 252.99620
jurov: up to 300 yay
benkay: we're all rich?
truffles: 268 is 300 now?
jurov: yes 268 is the new 300
truffles: before u know it itll be 10 again
jurov: so what. i have had a good time already
jurov: jelly-filled truffles .. from capncrunch
truffles: terrible punishment to look at pictures of tastey looking desserts on the internet
jurov: .bait
jurov: arrr.. not very tasty
jurov: .bait
jurov: better
benkay: mmm tattoos
truffles: know how to make chocolate eclairs?
truffles: that metal stuff looks painful
truffles: why would any1 put it there!
benkay: as it should
benkay: its a signaling thing typically
truffles: "Remember that your piercer is a professional and this is not a sexual thing"
benkay: pretty much everthing is a sexual thing
truffles: thats unfortunate
benkay: why?
truffles: wouldnt it take up too much energy to be that way
benkay: better than thinking about food all time ;)
truffles: haha
jurov: truffles: have you been in vienna?
truffles: nope
jurov: i guess you'd return 20kg heavier from there xD
truffles: lmao
truffles: i dont eat everything i see
truffles: its just the tastey stuff
jurov: ^ exacatly what i mean.
truffles: which isnt in the house often so im okay
jurov: especially avoid going there before christmas :)
truffles: some reason there is a pic of a breastfeeding mother in this google search..
truffles: i need to pick a country to vacation to, thanks for the option : d
truffles: i can always lose weight after
truffles: at least i know they put the irrelevant pics at the bottom of image searches
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00082425 = 11.2098 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.0008238 = 5.6018 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.359 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 107 @ 0.0010959 = 0.1173 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1300 @ 0.00109599 = 1.4248 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 18 @ 0.31673741 = 5.7013 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.31212011 = 0.6242 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.35 = 0.7 BTC [+]
ThickerThanThiev: gox orderbook is interesting, 10000 btc ask at 273
KRS1: Hmm
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 13 @ 0.31128781 = 4.0467 BTC [-] {6}
Jere_Jones: I see that as someone who is trying to slow down this train to avoid a crash instead of as someone trying to cash out.
ThickerThanThiev: i'm a skeptic
Jere_Jones: You are skeptical of what?
ThickAsThieves: that its someone trying to curb the price to guard froma bubble pop
pankkake: ;;market sell 150000
gribble: A market order to sell 150000 bitcoins right now would net 16959110.7590 USD and would take the last price down to 23.5001 USD, resulting in an average price of 113.0607 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0144 seconds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.0565 = 0.113 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3332 @ 0.00082589 = 2.7519 BTC [+] {2}
ozbot: BBC News - Computer-generated 'Sweetie' catches online predators
firedrops: you can't tell that's a computer generated model?!?!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.00605012 = 0.1573 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11441 @ 0.00082595 = 9.4497 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: firedrops maybe you should a consultant for pedos
Jere_Jones: ThickAsThieves: Any thoughts on Bitfunder closing other than "What a pain in the ass"?
ThickAsThieves: You'd probably need to be more specific
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00082439 = 11.8712 BTC [-] {2}
Jere_Jones: I had nothing specific in mind. I was just looking for your opinion on the current "bitcoin stock" climate. Specifically how it affects you since a large portion of your activites seem centered in this sector.
ThickAsThieves: Well, at first we felt it affected us a lot, but in the end we are what we are regardless of the environment around us. As long as that environment exists, we will adapt to thrive in it.
ThickAsThieves: BTCT and BF closing is both good and bad.
ThickAsThieves: Good in that it is culling many sour assets, pushing some to more fringe exchanges
ThickAsThieves: and overall tempering the space as a whole
ThickAsThieves: bad, of course in that many people are "losing money" in the process,
kakobrekla: that is not bad
ThickAsThieves: and that there are now less places for me to do business in the ways we did before
kakobrekla: either they will run out of coins or learn something
kakobrekla: not bad at all
nubbins`: <Rozal> nubbins please take the ' out of your name....very disrespectful
nubbins`: <--scam bait
ThickAsThieves: the larger question here might be, what is the future of bitcoin-denominated securities overall
ThickAsThieves: it can go a few ways
ThickAsThieves: and most likely will go all of them
kakobrekla: it can go wherever it wants but securities are obv on mpex
kakobrekla: anything else just isnt secure by definition
nubbins`: insecurities exchange
kakobrekla: correct
kakobrekla: insecure insecurities exchange
nubbins`: "i'll trade 3 units of fear and 2 units of doubt for 0.1 btc"
ThickAsThieves: at its core, an mpex security is not inherently more secure for investor, but the platform is better than most, maybe all, in that sense
kakobrekla: ill give you 5 units of scam for 3 of fear, how that sounds
kakobrekla: id argue it is, cause not any shit can get listed there tat
kakobrekla: so even if you go investing blindfolded you got better chances there
ThickAsThieves: maybe statistically
ThickAsThieves: but that doesnt make most mpex securities good invetsments itself
kakobrekla: doesnt mean they are good no
kakobrekla: just better than others
ThickAsThieves: and it doesnt mean that investors can blindly trust either
nubbins`: well, what qualifies as "better"?
kakobrekla: having a signed contract for one thing
nubbins`: objective criteria needed!
nubbins`: that's a good one
pankkake: contract & financial reports
ThickAsThieves: a contract doesnt preclude an issuer or business from breaking the contract
pankkake: and I don't get why anyone else does it
nubbins`: although the feature where you could just change the contract w/o anyone knowing was a good one
pankkake: doesn't do it*
ThickAsThieves: a un-audited financial report does not stop a business from lying
pankkake: true
kakobrekla: no but no contract issuer can do ANYTHING
ThickAsThieves: these issues are shared across all exchanges
ThickAsThieves: most assets had a prospectus with (somewhat) clear boundaries
kakobrekla: prospectus.
ThickAsThieves: many broke them on the "play" exchanges
ThickAsThieves: but to the buyer they are no worse than a contract
ThickAsThieves: when anonymity is rampant
ThickAsThieves: in mpex's case
ThickAsThieves: there is less anonymity
ThickAsThieves: a lot less
ThickAsThieves: mind you i'm not arguing that mpex or its securities are bad
nubbins`: there's certainly a name attached, at least
ThickAsThieves: i own some of them myself
nubbins`: which is marginally better than buying securities from an anonymous bundle of letters
kakobrekla: yeah, i know you are not arguing cause there is nothing to argue
ThickAsThieves: I think anonymity will lessen overall in the space
nubbins`: yeah
nubbins`: it'll still be there, just pushed to the fringes a bit more
ThickAsThieves: the gap may widen, between shady anonymous exchanges like Cryptostocks
ThickAsThieves: and MPEx, maybe Havelock
ThickAsThieves: I dont know much about this Panamanian acquisition
ThickAsThieves: but they seem confident
ThickAsThieves: and the original Havelock team isnt going away
ThickAsThieves: and i enjoy working with them
ThickAsThieves: i also look forward to working with MPEx one day
ThickAsThieves: just hasnt panned out that way yet
Jere_Jones: That's a bullish statement for Havelock (IMO)
ThickAsThieves: well we can't be bullish on HL
ThickAsThieves: it isnt publicly traded ;)
ThickAsThieves: We will also see more blockchain-based/distributed solutions
Jere_Jones: Rephrase: I interpret what you just said as a very positive statement for the future of Havelock. :)
nubbins`: their quagmire of a mining fund can be
Jere_Jones: Specifically, I'm referring to you saying you enjoy working with them.
ThickAsThieves: i know they take their mining fund seriously
ThickAsThieves: but i dont follow the details much
ThickAsThieves: i have no problem saying HL has always been the most accommodating and best at customer service for me so far
ThickAsThieves: as an issuer at leats
topace: ThickAsThieves: we'll be setting up a call with you in the next day or two, if you havent been contacted already by our panama team.
pankkake: I feel that way as a simple user too :)
ThickAsThieves: thanks Topace
topace: panama is back from holidays todya
topace: apparently monday and tuesday were national holidyas down there
pankkake: that 0.0001 minimum on cryptostocks is fun. labcoin is now worth 0
pankkake: I wanted to buy all the company at one satoshi per share :(
Jere_Jones: I had such high hopes for LC
ThickAsThieves: you shouldnt have
ThickAsThieves: we all tried to stop people from day 1
Jere_Jones: The desire to get ahold of the next ASICMiner was (is?) strong.
kakobrekla: yeah tat did it by "reserved" post :D
KRS-1: Panama Team. I picture a bunch of guys dressed up in suits in a sweaty third-world country office with no air conditioner but with ceiling fans that spin slow. Each has two 1970's style phones, one in red, one black. An old coffee maker sits in the corner and never shuts off.
kakobrekla: Jere_Jones look at penny stocks if you want to ride bubbles
Jere_Jones: fiat penny stocks?
kakobrekla: its where teh bubbling is
pankkake: like that company named twatter or something
Jere_Jones: There are many thousands of penny stocks. The odds are... low.
kakobrekla: bigger than having next asicminer
ozbot: The Sheer Idiocy Of The Markets In One Chart | Zero Hedge
pankkake: it was "Tweeter"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 619 @ 0.00018016 = 0.1115 BTC [-] {6}
Jere_Jones: I'm feeling pretty good about NEOBEE. And I'm still holding onto my ASICMiner.
ThickAsThieves: plus look at the full story of AM so far
ThickAsThieves: being the "next AM" now inludes a violent fall in share price
Jere_Jones: Maybe but 5000 ipo shares would've cost around, what, $5000? And it would have generated $2500 in income last week?
ThickAsThieves: you cnat think like that
ThickAsThieves: dont take pieces out of the puzzle to selectively pretend youd have done the ideal thing
Jere_Jones: I have learned that I suck at day trading.
Jere_Jones: Buy and hold is the only strategy that has ever worked for me.
topace: if i had done the "ideal" thing, i wouldnt have sold 10,000BTC in 2009 at $0.04/BTC
ThickAsThieves: thats the thing every single one of us has probly left tons of money on the table
topace: or maybe it was 2010... whatever. somewher eback there.
Jere_Jones: If I reliably and accurately could see the future, I'd be rich. Alas...
ThickAsThieves: well you can always take the simple route and hold bitcoins
Jere_Jones: I do that too. :)
ThickAsThieves: just be careful to distinguish investment decisions from gambling urges
ThickAsThieves: if you wanna gamble they have sites for that
Jere_Jones: Gambling seems to be about the thrill, as I understand it. That has no attraction for me.
nubbins`: if i had done the "ideal" thing, i wouldn't have bought satoshi dice at 0.67
nubbins`: nor AM at 4+
Jere_Jones: What is important to me is being worth more tomorrow than I am today.
ThickAsThieves: nubbins thats coincidentally about where i started
nubbins`: i started AM around 1.4
nubbins`: didn't know when to stop buying
ThickAsThieves: .425 for me
nubbins`: yeah
nubbins`: i missed out on about 50 btc by holding
nubbins`: but, shrug
Jere_Jones: I'd like the bitcoins that I'm holding to do *something*, not just increase my USD worth. Although that is a worthy purpose too.
nubbins`: can't always get it right
ThickAsThieves: AM was a tricky call, mostly because they didnt deliver a gen2 fast enough
nubbins`: yeah
nubbins`: anyway, even after fucking up the timing on SD and AM
topace: is gen2 even coming?
nubbins`: i'm still up 10x
topace: i thought they said gen2 sucked so they ditched it
nubbins`: which, coincidentally, i could have done by never buying any securities at all
nubbins`: and just sitting
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 0.05101666 = 0.3061 BTC [-] {3}
nubbins`: topace, who knows
nubbins`: so hard to keep track
nubbins`: i think i've made more money at this point selling friedcat t-shirts than collecting divs
topace: haha
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 9 @ 0.05000001 = 0.45 BTC [-] {2}
pankkake: I am too lazy to check everything but the only thing I know is that I have more bitcoins that I ever bought
pankkake: my actual profits seem to come from the stupidest things
ThickAsThieves: like other investors?
pankkake: well, kinda. like selling overpriced XBONDs
pankkake: or playing with high spreads
nubbins`: yeah, xbond was nice to me
Jere_Jones: That reminds me that I made 5 btc in 10 minutes playing with fucking MinCoin over on mcxnow a couple days ago.
nubbins`: i'm too risk-averse at this point to buy it above recall tho
Jere_Jones: Fuck that was nerve wrecking. I shan't do that again.
Jere_Jones: Nerve-wrecking and stupid.
nubbins`: i think it's wracking
nubbins`: maybe even without the w
pankkake: I usually buy a bit above the recall, but not more than I first invested
Jere_Jones: Oh sweet. A PM from friedcat...
pankkake: thought the price seems to have calmed down now
nubbins`: yeah, it's been around 1.09 for a while i think?
nubbins`: if you think they won't be recalled in the next 3 months, still a good deal
Jere_Jones: Huh.... "nerve-racking" it is... interesting.
pankkake: I made so much selling it over and over I wouldn't mind really
pankkake: and if people stop buying it without undertanding, I'll be happy too
nubbins`: maybe they understand all too well!
nubbins`: THE CHIEF SCIENTIST OF THE BITCOIN
Jere_Jones: ThickAsThieves: That 10k wall disappeared.
ThickAsThieves: person was done buying ;)
Jere_Jones: I read that as "person was done bullying" at first.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 944 @ 0.00109698 = 1.0355 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 4056 @ 0.00109699 = 4.4494 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.65768002 = 6.5768 BTC [-] {6}
kakobrekla: interesting chart
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.65103332 = 5.8593 BTC [-] {6}
ThickAsThieves: what do you find most interesting?
kakobrekla: the volumes part
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: the hockey stick chart
kakobrekla: i dunno how they plan on playing hockey if its getting that warm
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: same thing is with infinite by design.
kakobrekla: err, finite by design.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.64500001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 26 @ 0.64423076 = 16.75 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: lelelelelelelelelelelelel
nubbins`: i'm roaring here
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.62667333 = 1.88 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.60888822 = 10.3511 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 22 @ 0.60001822 = 13.2004 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14381 @ 0.00082467 = 11.8596 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.6 = 9 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 166 @ 0.00606068 = 1.0061 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.6 = 3 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: AM div is 0.00290692
ThickAsThieves: I need to process migrations before div payouts today
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 114 @ 0.00603015 = 0.6874 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 310 @ 0.00602326 = 1.8672 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1137 @ 0.00600331 = 6.8258 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.58436574 = 1.7531 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.58404861 = 1.1681 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00249999 = 0.1875 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.582 = 1.746 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: ;;bc,convert eru
kakobrekla: ;;bc,convert eur
gribble: 1 BTC = An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00082357 = 10.5417 BTC [-] {2}
kakobrekla: nanotube this seems to be out of order ?
gribble: 1 BTC = An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
ozbot: The Rise and Fall of the World's Largest Bitcoin Exchange | Wired Enterprise | Wired.com
nubbins`: 10/10, would give money
nubbins`: "i am a business man"
nubbins`: oh, here we go
nubbins`: "Even for those who count themselves among Mt. Gox’s friends, this interview was a bit weird. You can’t take the interview seriously if you have “the CEO of the most important business in bitcoin sitting on top of a bouncy ball talking about world-changing ideas,” says Roger Ver, an early bitcoin investor who knows Karpeles well and considers him a friend."
nubbins`: (the most important business in bitcoin!)
jurov: Ctrl+F amazing <Enter> ... not found. disappointed.
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
nubbins`: 3-page article, maybe they saved that for the end
nubbins`: i couldn't be bothered
nubbins`: <- gonna redeem a casascius coin this evening, fun times
kakobrekla: ill pay you 1.00000001 for it
jurov: nubbins`: doesn't it sell for more than face value?
jurov: i'll pay 1.000001
kakobrekla: 1.0001
jurov: i'll pay 1.001
jurov: i'll pay 1.1
kakobrekla: jurov can has it
ThickAsThieves: he's selling it for fiat guys
jurov: nubbins, srsly. 1.1 BTC + postage
nubbins`: okay, deal
nubbins`: btw, it's a 0.5
jurov: /o\
nubbins`: haha
nubbins`: anyway, i've always wanted to redeem one
kakobrekla: ;;auth jurov
gribble: Request successful for user jurov, hostmask kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:0f952a4b73d33f562bd95bca957a7d6cab377c240ef560d8d24c5994
nubbins`: and i might as well do it now
kakobrekla: how do you check this
kakobrekla: ;;authed jurov
nubbins`: ;;ident nubbins`
gribble: Error: "authed" is not a valid command.
gribble: Nick 'nubbins`', with hostmask 'nubbins`!~nubbins`@stjhnf0148w-142134193006.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.nl.bellaliant.net', is identified as user nubbins`, with GPG key id CF2950F23C844002, key fingerprint 5015BD3D0AE659C8B8632F31CF2950F23C844002, and bitcoin address None
jurov: ;;ident jurov
gribble: Nick 'jurov', with hostmask 'jurov!~jurov@mx.coinbr.com', is not identified.
kakobrekla: you can run now.
jurov: you were talking with scammer. no deal.
nubbins`: but you have no `
nubbins`: i thought ` = scammer
jurov: lalalala
nubbins`: ok, gotta run to the post office
nubbins`: well. i'm technically gonna walk.
nubbins`: peace
jurov: peace
jurov: i should technically run too.. they were going to repair water mains tomorrow
jurov: but it's closed already and i haven't a drop around :(
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.0059999 = 0.12 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: Job postings from the Cointerra site today (11/5/13):
ThickAsThieves: Hiring lead physical design engineer
ThickAsThieves: Hiring principal design engineer
ThickAsThieves: Hiring principal verification engineer
ThickAsThieves: looks like they lost their team
ozbot: BitBet - Cointerra will deliver in 2013
kleeck_: oooh
ThickAsThieves: Mike Hearn mentioned on the Verge
ozbot: Google engineers issue 'Fuck you' to NSA over surveillance scandal | The Verge
ThickAsThieves: guess he'll be full-time bitcoin soon
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 625 @ 0.00109699 = 0.6856 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.056 = 0.28 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: "In June of 2010, one Bitcoin was worth $0.004 : Now one dollar is worth 0.004 Bitcoin"
nubbins`: inverse day
kakobrekla: ;;ticker -all
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the (1 more message)
kakobrekla: ;;ticker --all
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the (1 more message)
kakobrekla: what is this now
kakobrekla: ;;ticker --market all
nubbins`: ;;ticker --market all
nubbins`: oh no
kakobrekla: first.
nubbins`: doublemint
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD last: 264.79999, vol: 52685.90129942 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 259.00, vol: 52108.42061810 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 249.79, vol: 26473.69957 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 244.05, vol: 857.43699928 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 265.6779, vol: 49596.22500000 | Volume-weighted last average: 261.091852046
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD last: 264.79999, vol: 52685.90129942 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 259.61, vol: 52105.79809514 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 249.79, vol: 26473.69957 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 244.05, vol: 857.43699928 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 266.08815, vol: 49634.97300000 | Volume-weighted last average: 261.379765236
ozbot: Classic Doublemint Gum Commercial (1985) - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 96 @ 0.001097 = 0.1053 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD last: 262.99799, vol: 52631.89668315 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 250, vol: 26435.48788 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 266.061894, vol: 49585.83800000 | Volume-weighted last average: 261.508078159
kakobrekla: no tardstamp
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
kakobrekla: ben is short for good, so a good gay.
benkay: the best queer
benkay: the iciest of hots
nubbins`: K is just an unvoiced G
jurov: mkay
jurov: mircea_popescu no plan to make similar calendar? http://www.topdrive.cz/galerie/liqui-moly-kalendar-2014/i/149924/
jurov: (nsfw)
jurov: only in datacenter instead of racetrack
pankkake: I've seen some datacenter porn already. Though I wasn't very aroused by either the servers or the women
ozbot: More Women In IT (NSFW)
pankkake: eh. one day I was watching a porn movie and wondered what brand were the speakers in the background. audiophilia gone wrong
ozbot: top scoring links : cableporn
ThickAsThieves: Someone emailed me a migration email in chinese
kakobrekla: at least he isnt worried to have a negative bitcoin balance
ThickAsThieves: you have a neg balance or sumth?
kakobrekla: no, but i got an email from bitbet user saying to cancel his bet cause he doesnt want to have a negative bitcoin balance
kakobrekla: thats what you get when you deal with ppl below x btc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15900 @ 0.0008263 = 13.1382 BTC [+] {3}
kakobrekla: it doesnt mean they are stupid by default, just their exposure is not worth understanding how it works so then others suffer
truffles: still looking down on us no bitcoin ppl kako?
kakobrekla: i do not look down
kakobrekla: i just explained why
kakobrekla: and i take no joy in the matter
truffles: how will u suffer if i dont opt in?
kakobrekla: opt in what?
truffles: to bitcoin
truffles: its a lifestyle u know
nubbins`: signals, noise, etc
kakobrekla: its not a lifestyle
kakobrekla: not generally
nubbins`: you mean dicking around on irc all day isn't a lfiestyle?
kakobrekla: you think bitcoinland has 150 holders?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 65 @ 0.00589615 = 0.3832 BTC [+] {2}
kakobrekla: it has at least 1500.
nubbins`: heh!
truffles: i like to dick around
truffles: until i dont feel like it anymore
truffles: nubbins` of all ppl, u hate dicking around?
nubbins`: i don't get it
pankkake: bitmit shutting down :|
nubbins`: now where am i gonna sell all my shit?!
kakobrekla: do we know the reason why
nubbins`: "If you are interested in buying the site we will publish further information in about 2 weeks."
truffles: plenty high rollers can swoop in now yay bitcoin
pankkake: the guy mentionned seeking investors a week or so ago
nubbins`: i'm guessing shit volume
nubbins`: and therefore shit revenue
pankkake: well it's their own fault
pankkake: downtime and not catering to seller's needs
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [+]
nubbins`: after 5 years, the rubber feet are starting to come off my macbook
nubbins`: SHOULDA BOUGHT A PC
truffles: dun dun dun
kakobrekla: pankkake its the kraken problem
pankkake: oh, you have a mac? you must be an artist!
ThickAsThieves: buy new rubber feat for $1
kakobrekla: you need a market maker.
nubbins`: hahahaha
nubbins`: pankkake: i bought this when i was still an IT drone
nubbins`: ThickAsThieves: i'm gonna use some sugru :D
pankkake: kakobrekla: perhaps, but I think there are some incentives and helpful features that could jumpstart the stuff
ThickAsThieves: werent they a kickstarter or something sugru?
nubbins`: i think so
nubbins`: it's great stuff
ThickAsThieves: i put feet on all my tablets
ThickAsThieves: i even considered repackaging plain rubber feet as high end
ThickAsThieves: and sell them as tabfeet
nubbins`: i've repaired pot lids, added cool-grips to others, repaired frayed cords, plugged holes in my vac table
pankkake: it's the new duct tape!
nubbins`: it really is
nubbins`: and soon it'll be feet for my laptop
nubbins`: the only bummer is that it usually takes only the smallest bit to repair things, and then you're stuck wondering what to do with the rest
nubbins`: so i usually wait until i have a few things that need mending
nubbins`: anyway, i'm going on a supply run. colored cardstock and one of those long-arm staplers
pankkake: > They started as a ebay for bitcoin sites "WITHOUT ADVERTISEMENT"... then now they added a few AD BANNERS...
pankkake: indeed this is a sign
truffles: as a ebay hmm
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.0568 = 0.2272 BTC [+]
truffles: i cant recall when utube started with the banners etc
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 33 @ 0.057 = 1.881 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00249999 = 0.125 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 0.39 = 1.17 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 15 @ 0.4 = 6 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 675 @ 0.00109698 = 0.7405 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1325 @ 0.00109797 = 1.4548 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.65 = 1.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20650 @ 0.00082142 = 16.9623 BTC [-] {3}
truffles: interesting read indeed
truffles: not his fault according to article
kakobrekla: not albertos fault!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 50 @ 0.00426525 = 0.2133 BTC [-] {8}
truffles: "As the only non-anonymous team member (after some early scams on the exchange, he implemented a system where anyone issuing shares would have to verify their identity with him before listing), he felt he was putting himself at risk." doesnt sound great..
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6895 BTC [+]
imsaguy: asicminer is still trading?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 64 @ 0.00555421 = 0.3555 BTC [-] {2}
ozbot: Interview With GLBSE's James McCarthy / Nefario – Bitcoin Magazine
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6995 = 1.399 BTC [+] {2}
kakobrekla: i wonder when pirate will have such inteview
ThickAsThieves: when he's done with his trial interviews :)
kakobrekla: dunno , nefario got it sooner
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1500 @ 0.00109764 = 1.6465 BTC [-] {3}
truffles: "And if you want to be a serious concurrent, work on you site, it's unusable for anyone not suffering from a Savant syndrome." *chuckles*
truffles: MPOE-PR attracts so much negative attention
kakobrekla: where is that from
ozbot: TYGRR.* assets on GLBSE delisted.
truffles: sometimes this bitcoin stuff is a good read
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 216 @ 0.00109793 = 0.2372 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10487 @ 0.00082048 = 8.6044 BTC [-] {2}
truffles: seems only 1 wrong thing could sour customers
truffles: surprising mpex is going strong hehe
ThickAsThieves: their customers come sour out of the box :)
truffles: i do like the freedom bitcoin provides an owner or whatever
truffles: but the conflict of reputation etc..
kakobrekla: truffles the saddest part from reading history is seeing most people do not learn anything
truffles: thats a shame, bitcoiners i take for granted are generally smarter than the overall population
nubbins`: ok, so i redeemed that casascius coin
kakobrekla: yes truffles but those people are not bitcoiners
kakobrekla: they are dickfuckingarounders
truffles: some of us are just bored
kakobrekla: start doing something useful
truffles: im a work in progress, dont rush me!
Apocalyptic: you found a job truffles yet ?
truffles: eh no
nubbins`: ^ lel
truffles: <nubbins`> ok, so i redeemed that casascius coin?? i feel like i read that before, what word is causing this!
truffles: im going to go work for nubbins` dicksurgery ftw
nubbins`: we carry our own gear
nubbins`: uploading video of me ruining something valuable now
truffles: ud love my fix anything approach
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 55 @ 0.0059 = 0.3245 BTC [+]
nubbins`: we only work with people who have useful skills
nubbins`: it helps draw attention away from the music
truffles: ouch
truffles: ill just bring a saw then
nubbins`: you might have been thinking of earlier when i threatened to redeem said coin
nubbins`: then jurov offered to buy it and immediately reneged on the deal once i agreed
truffles: sucks
truffles: ill bring my saw to jurov then
nubbins`: in his defence, he obv has no idea what's on the go ;D
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 427 @ 0.0059786 = 2.5529 BTC [+] {5}
truffles: kako hates me though
truffles: i dont know why, im a nice person !
nubbins`: prolly because you talk too much, yet offer little in the way of substance
truffles: make someone money?
truffles: nubbins` i thought u agreed with me days ago chatrooms should be for chattery
nubbins`: proof or it didn't happen
ozbot: Redeeming a Casascius coin - YouTube
truffles: inferred
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7064 @ 0.00081898 = 5.7853 BTC [-]
truffles: ure kinda like mircea_popescu in a way, dont like dissenting views ..
KRS-1: heh
truffles: KRS-1 u agree with that comment?
nubbins`: i think i speak for both of us when i say that the comparison isn't appreciated ;p
truffles: u havent put me on ignore yet : )
nubbins`: there's still time
truffles: i know
truffles: it was an honest mistake on my part, i thought he was a chill out guy
truffles: im not so sure about u though
nubbins`: nah, i'm a savage
KRS-1: truffles: idk maybe
truffles: okay
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.0001801 = 0.1801 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.69799799 = 3.49 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.69998998 = 2.1 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.69998999 = 1.4 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.70789921 = 3.5395 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.7227999 = 4.3368 BTC [+]
nanotube: kakobrekla: yes google killed their calc api. so until i get around to coding in the web scraper, blame google.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.72279999 = 2.1684 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12836 @ 0.00082004 = 10.526 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 2092 @ 0.00624712 = 13.069 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 232 @ 0.00625 = 1.45 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: nubbins`: you are welcome to submit the issue to rota ;)
nubbins`: hahaha
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.0001875 = 0.9375 BTC [+]
ozbot: Is Belkin N300 a miner at all?
jborkl: good stuff
Namworld: jborkl... WHUT?
jborkl: They guy thinks his belkin router is a bitcoin miner
jborkl: the
jborkl: ohh nice, 25 btc credit coming soon to a wireless router near you
Namworld: or he ordered an asicminer from someone and received something with "Belkin N300" on it and is now puzzled as to how to make it work...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00082379 = 4.8604 BTC [+]
Namworld: Someone must be selling ASICMINER erupters on ebay or something and shipping these: http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Wireless-Adapter-Latest-Generation/dp/B004N625BO
jborkl: well, i guess he got something that was not vaporware
Namworld: vapor, wireless adapters, what difference does it makes? I got no use for either
Namworld: I would be real mad to receive such a thing if I ordered an ASICMINER.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 11476 @ 0.00015457 = 1.7738 BTC [-] {12}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 19944 @ 0.00012265 = 2.4461 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.058 = 0.232 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] [PAID] 31.13311320 BTC to 10`710 shares, 290692 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] [PAID] 9.98697770 BTC to 361`585 shares, 2762 satoshi per share
ozbot: Belkin ASICMINER Block Erupter USB - How to Install
nubbins`: imagine
Namworld: He could mine wireless signals. Take all the data.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 22 @ 0.00625454 = 0.1376 BTC [+] {2}
bgupta: how do we do the quote all for usd/btc for bot?
nubbins`: Namworld: i'm not sure that he could
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 91 @ 0.00638 = 0.5806 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 24 @ 0.00639982 = 0.1536 BTC [+] {4}
bgupta: kakobrekla: If you look at http://bitcoinity.org/markets/bitstamp/USD vs http://bitcoinity.org/markets/mtgox/USD looks like bitstamp price traded higher than mtgox at about 37 mins ago, resolving bet http://bitbet.us/bet/537/bitstampusd-will-trade-at-a-higher-price-than/
kakobrekla: not sure if that is sufficient
kakobrekla: also talk to mp about that.
bgupta: mircea_popescu: ^^
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 666 @ 0.00016494 = 0.1099 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 23 @ 0.0064 = 0.1472 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00082288 = 17.2805 BTC [-]
jurov: bgupta it says bitcoincharts is authoritative source
bgupta: ah let me look
jurov: so i'd suggest preparing screenshots from there
the20year: coinbase is now over mtg too
the20year: what site has market share of the exchanges?
ozbot: Bitcoin Charts / Charts
jurov: but coinbase is not listed
the20year: i didn't see you were talking about bitbet
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4950 @ 0.00082379 = 4.0778 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: could be.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1754 @ 0.00016499 = 0.2894 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 59 @ 0.00225001 = 0.1328 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: bgupta hm ? so that's the sort of thing wired has been doing for the past coupla decades, to turn itself from a respected trade magazine to a pulp publication nobody credits worth five cents.
mircea_popescu: hardly worth the mention
mircea_popescu: jurov think it'd be an idea ?
jurov: what?
mircea_popescu: you know you dinged me. some nudie calendar
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 264.00001, Best ask: 264.98997, Bid-ask spread: 0.98996, Last trade: 264.99499, 24 hour volume: 38247.14951674, 24 hour low: 251.30000, 24 hour high: 272.52000, 24 hour vwap: 262.80481
mircea_popescu: so did it make 267 ?
mod6: hmm from bitmit.net - this just popped up: Bitmit is closing
mod6: Bitmit is shutting down its services in four weeks. Please complete your orders and withdraw your funds!
mircea_popescu: mod6 yeah they were looking for investors
mircea_popescu: problem with kids with a website that failed at making a business is that they overvalue their website.
mod6: ooh. hmm, wasnt aware.
mod6: & ya, 24hr high was 272.52
gribble: Error: "ya," is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: anyway. at least this clears the field for someone with actual qualifications to make the btc ebay.
kakobrekla: says the guy who sold bbet for 1k btc!
kakobrekla: err 15% of.
mircea_popescu: of course the way things work it'll be 5 different forum dorks redoiong bitmit
mircea_popescu: but anyway
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla free market baby.
mircea_popescu: not private placement negotiation.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves yeah their odesk staff left.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 266 @ 0.00624789 = 1.6619 BTC [-] {4}
bgupta: kakobrekla: posted links to the bitcoincharts in http://bitbet.us/bet/537/bitstampusd-will-trade-at-a-higher-price-than/ bet comments... not sure if that's clear enough. IE: 2013-11-06 21:41:00 (265.00 vs 263.27004) 2013-11-06 22:40:00 (262.00 vs 260.10005) Seems the way bet is worded, on technicality it resolves Yes, but your call. (One needs to expand the raw data to see the timestamps)
bgupta: mircea_popescu: Sorry to bother. Think kako can make the bet resolution call.
jurov: mircea_popescu: ah that calendar. dunno, you're an expert here.
mircea_popescu: well no he can't, in that he's not involved in that part. neither am i for that matter, but if it makes you feel better it is pretty much cut and dried.
mircea_popescu: jurov maybe i make it with boys.
jurov: then i'm all for it. if you can procure better models than nubbins
jurov: (sorry nubbins)
mircea_popescu: tell you waht, you procure the models, shoot them, i'll pay for it (if you get really cheap models!) and we can have the mpex-coinbr joint male body appreciation calendar.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 68 @ 0.00598984 = 0.4073 BTC [-] {5}
jurov: cheap models? hmmmm we'll see
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 182 @ 0.0057211 = 1.0412 BTC [-] {3}
wao-ender: cmon
wao-ender: bu our hacjerspace is open
wao-ender: we alredy made some porn in space
wao-ender: by studenta
mircea_popescu: i'm sorry, you need to put that in the form of a question.
jurov: wao maintains the hackerspace here in bratislava
jurov: he just wanted to said he's open to the idea :D
jurov: *say
mircea_popescu: a. well cool then. any pretty twinks in bratislava ?
wao-ender: right
wao-ender: hmm et me think about it
wao-ender: opposite our space is strip club
wao-ender: so it wouldnt be a prob
mircea_popescu: you have a MALE strip club in that town !?
wao-ender: they have even males
wao-ender: I think
mircea_popescu: go bratislava.
wao-ender: I should find some ad paper from their hostess
jurov: yay naked models, soldering iron in the hand, concentrated look...
mircea_popescu: maybe you do a cryptoanal thermanalysis one to make asciilifeform happy.
mircea_popescu: (guy tied to chair with soldering iron up his butt, face of agony. pgp signatures on the back wall)
jurov: but bdsm is moar expensive
mircea_popescu: it could be just the month of may.
mircea_popescu: and the iron doesn't even have to be hot
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 155 @ 0.00109797 = 0.1702 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: pankkake kink ?
mircea_popescu: sorry, i mean link ?
pankkake: the website doesn't exist anymore, thankfully
auto2nr1_: whats happening here?
mircea_popescu: auto2nr1_ noobs keep popping up off webirc to advertise various laughable "businesses" then disappear.
auto2nr1_: ahh... thats no fun
auto2nr1_: thanks for responding
auto2nr1_: any good stocks to invest in at the moment?
auto2nr1_: lol
mircea_popescu: otheerwise you can also check the log
auto2nr1_: things are kinda slow in the other channels
auto2nr1_: so i thought i would pop in here to see if there is any action going on
jurov: yes, hot and steamy actoin
nubbins`: calendar action
nubbins`: words hurt, man
mircea_popescu: jurov actcoin, the future of altcoins
wao-ender: bdsm was always expensive.
mircea_popescu: wao-ender im spoiled by getting it for free for too long.
wao-ender: hoho
wao-ender: you will be spanked.
jurov: wao we don't ned to have true leather props here.. i guess cat5 cables will do
nubbins`: those hurt too
mircea_popescu: cat cables will do anything.
wao-ender: at least, tonight we had latex discussion again :D
mircea_popescu: and yes, power cord is way worse than any switch known to man.
wao-ender: in space
wao-ender: lot of weirdos
jurov: btw, did you knew even vatican does have male calendar with selected young beautiful (although properly clothed) canonics?
mircea_popescu: i had no idea.
jurov: i have my contacts :)
mircea_popescu: yeah, get the pope to star in the calendar nao
jurov: oooh the bitstampusd bet got resolved? \o/
mircea_popescu: please direct all bonbons and other tokens of appreciation to me
mircea_popescu: complaints go to kako.
jurov: now that's bit too much goodness for today.. goodnight
pankkake: wow I can't believe I lost that one
mircea_popescu: should be a thsirt
nubbins`: should be the company slogan
pankkake: https://inputs.io/ inputs.io defaced
mircea_popescu: yeah, that got hacked
mircea_popescu: seems iti nvolves some jd wallet or something
pankkake: well that one is new
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 9 @ 0.12552 = 1.1297 BTC [-] {2}
Namworld: Lol ozbot
Namworld: Looks like it just changed designed. Old Satoshi Dice is now moved to legacy.satoshidice.com
mircea_popescu: what's this stage=1 bs
Namworld: No fucking clue
pankkake: it's not responding to me
Namworld: I assume the new owners are fucktards. Stop blinking you damn faces
mircea_popescu: well that cut up head doesn't look good.
Apocalyptic: looks like TF is finished
Namworld: Props to SatoshiDice for their FAQ
Namworld: Why can't I play in the US?
Namworld: America is the Land of the Free, that's why online gambling in the U.S. is strictly prohibited.
Apocalyptic: two days ago or so he claimed he would pay for the inputs hack
Apocalyptic: now suddenly he won't
pankkake: he won't? source?
kakobrekla: thats cute.
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic kinda.
Apocalyptic: pankkake, "Two hacks have left Inputs unable to pay"
kakobrekla: now two?
Apocalyptic: main page
pankkake: yeah well, I doubt it's his writing
mircea_popescu: basically he walked the edge pestering people for about a year, ended up with a busted lip
Apocalyptic: kako, it gets better everyday yeah
kakobrekla: maybe the third attacker left that message there
pankkake: this is obviously a defaced page. "404 BTC Not Found"
mircea_popescu: ;;google bitcoin securities
gribble: Securities - Bitcoin Forum: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=78.0>; shares - What Bitcoin Securities / Stock exchanges are around ...: <http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/12575/what-bitcoin-securities-stock-exchanges-are-around>; MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange.: <http://mpex.co/>
pankkake: so it appears satoshidice is blocking some of my IPs… with another one I can access it
Apocalyptic: he may be in a joking mood
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu thats old, we now have insecurities.
mircea_popescu: ;;google bitcoin insecurities
gribble: Empirical Analysis of Bitcoin-Exchange Risk - Financial ...: <http://fc13.ifca.ai/proc/1-2.pdf>; BitFloor Joins List of Compromised BitCoin Exchanges - Slashdot: <http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/09/05/1238214/bitfloor-joins-list-of-compromised-bitcoin-exchanges>; EFF Ditches Bitcoin as Alternative Donation Currency Due to Legal ...: <http://siliconangle.com/blog/2011/06/21 (1 more message)
kakobrekla: google is lag.
pankkake: wow, well, GPG signed message now. "Two hacks totalling about 4100 BTC have left Inputs.io unable to pay all user balances."
auto2nr1_: whoa really?
Apocalyptic: pankkake, but obviously it's a defaced page, right..
pankkake: Well I didn't take a "404 Bitcoins not found" seriously. this, I do
Apocalyptic: you don't know TF humour then
Apocalyptic: which is kinda misplaced in this situation I agree
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8834 @ 0.00082392 = 7.2785 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: i don';t see any reason to take it as humor
asciilifeform: this is all reminiscent of, say, pre-Otis elevators - that would sometimes plunge, occupants screaming, splat.
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auto2nr1_: dexx7 whats up man
asciilifeform: with the one exception that people in those times, for the most part, were clever enough to refuse the ride.
auto2nr1_: good to see you in another channel
auto2nr1_: =D
dexX7: hehe
pankkake: "Cold storage system protects coins against server compromise" oops
Apocalyptic: I find it amazing he had 4100 btc on the hot one
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kakobrekla: could be his plan all along
kakobrekla: 4100 is way more that hes ever gonna make wit that
pankkake: yeah, that's the big issue with hacks
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auto2nr1_: has blockchain.info ever been hacked?
pankkake: blockchain.info doesn't have your private key. however, they could get their javascript replaced, for those who don't have the browser extension
auto2nr1_: i see
auto2nr1_: so they dont have a negative history right?
auto2nr1_: i have coins with them
pankkake: you probably should back up your private key if not already
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.1489 BTC [+]
auto2nr1_: yea i have a backup
auto2nr1_: =P
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14950 @ 0.00082409 = 12.3201 BTC [+]
Apocalyptic: kako, so we got a bitcoinica self-hack reloaded here
kakobrekla: could be anything
Apocalyptic: could make sense
mircea_popescu: auto2nr1_ iirc they had some injectuion attempts, but nothing serious
auto2nr1_: oh i see.. thanks for the heads up man
auto2nr1_: you are very helpful
mircea_popescu: that's how their js to check the js came about
pankkake: but what if you hack the js to check the js
pankkake: add a js to check the js that checks the js?
mircea_popescu: i think the idea was you save this locally
mircea_popescu: i'm a little rusty on it as i never used the thing
pankkake: yeah that's what their browser extension does
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.3308 = 1.654 BTC [+] {3}
nubbins`: there's also a "chrome app" version
nubbins`: that you launch via chrome app launcher
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 70 @ 0.00639899 = 0.4479 BTC [-]
nubbins`: surprised this is only being discovered now
pankkake: I think I heard of it earlier. or at least, the google crawler being used for evil
nubbins`: around 5 years ago there was a big wave of attacks targeting classic ASP sites that apparently just trawled google search results for filetype:asp
mircea_popescu: "Update please, why this message, what is the timeframe for processing withdrawals again?"
mircea_popescu: gotta love the focus of bitcoin communiteers.
mircea_popescu: "hello sir, you have cancer, it's terminal" "pls give update when i'll be able to run again ty"
nubbins`: they're all spoiled from the constant updates that scammers provide
nubbins`: wait, that doesn't make sense!
nubbins`: but it's true anyway!
mircea_popescu: i haven't seen any updates from nubbins` recently
mircea_popescu: i think it's all a scam.
pankkake: I don't have my shirt. it's a scam
pankkake: I demand daily updates of its worldwide position
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00082425 = 11.8692 BTC [+] {2}
pankkake: is canada even a real country?
nubbins`: oh shit guys i've got a train to catch
nubbins`: just a quick update first
nubbins`: the shirts are hashing away
nubbins`: first divs tomorrow
mircea_popescu: "The attacker compromised the hosting account through compromising email accounts (some very old, and without phone numbers attached, so it was easy to reset). The attacker was able to bypass 2FA due to a flaw on the server host side."
nubbins`: without phone numbers attached
Namworld: [21:04] <pankkake> is canada even a real country?
Namworld: I'll have to go with...
nubbins`: it's actually called canadia
pankkake: it sounds like a classic, which happened with ovh : reset the server in rescue mode through the hoster
mircea_popescu: ;;google trilema mpex post mortem
gribble: MPEx breach - post mortem pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/mpex-breach-post-mortem>; MPEx - Status Report pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/mpex-status-report>; ROTA, post mortem. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/rota-post-mortem>
mircea_popescu: that's what it is, the story of the one that got through, out of at least half a dozen
ozbot: #bitcoin-assets log
mircea_popescu: if only he read trilema moar pen-in-hand back in september and reviewed the entire rat's nest of old emails at that point
kakobrekla: how much of the total loot is gone?
mircea_popescu: the 4k btc he says he's lost would still be his.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 13103 @ 0.00205125 = 26.8775 BTC [-] {19}
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KRS-: ouch! http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bitcoin-total-joke-224200448.html
mircea_popescu: KRS- also in the news, bitcoin thinks the "media" is a joke.
mircea_popescu: the only diff of course would be that what bitcoin says of the media matters. the reverse... not so much.
pankkake: it isn't the first time I see the military argument
pankkake: how can you say that without being ashamed?
mircea_popescu: idiots are never ashamed.
dexX7: almost sounds like this guy is joking
mircea_popescu: well, let me make it public anyway : i am keeping a list of retards from the old media, I will spend my time making it impossible for them to earn a living once bitcoin takes over.
mircea_popescu: the old "you're through in this town" hollywood thing is going to be nothing compared, come 2020 or w/e.
nubbins`: lel, force you to use usd
nubbins`: shut up and drink your oil!
Apocalyptic: hehe mircea
Apocalyptic: looking forward to that
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic two can play that game. "o, you posted about how bitcoin sucks in 2013 ? aww, off to siberia baby."
mircea_popescu: time to make it clear that if what you have to say about bitcoin is unbased negative idiocy of the sort, you'd better make damned sure you're retired within the next few years.
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dexX7: "people on teh internet having fun"
KRS-: Its hard when someone new to bitcoin reads an article that might not think critcally
KRS-: Their opinions can be easily swayed.
mircea_popescu: the cost of that is of course wholly borne by that person.
mircea_popescu: it's their future that's being thrown in the toilet.
mircea_popescu: and i guess that's what they get for trusting shills.
KRS-: But then the sheeple multiplicative factor kicks in with the aid of mass media powered by the Interwebs.
mircea_popescu: makes little difference.
mircea_popescu: people's lives don't consist of cellphone interaction today because of media reports. people's lives consist of cellphone interaction today because that's what cellphones do. period.
KRS-: Yahoo! finance was supposed to bring news not opinionated writing to site visitors.
Apocalyptic: KRS-, yeah, "supposed"
mircea_popescu: nobody has to agree with anything, approve anything and so on. technology is not optional.
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KRS-: of course..i just like neutral news..i think of all the sheeple out there that will read that
mircea_popescu: quoted mostly for the "“I’m an educated, very well plugged-in person" girl sez.
mircea_popescu: KRS- yeah. sucks when whatever you trust betrays that trust.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 20 @ 0.05280499 = 1.0561 BTC [-] {4}
nubbins`: i fucking hate the word sheeple
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.0008259 = 4.0469 BTC [+]
Apocalyptic: it sums it up perfectly
nubbins`: no, it makes me feel embarassed for the person using it
nubbins`: it's a cliched, trite, dull word that smacks of unsophistication
nubbins`: it's boorish
mircea_popescu: so what do you use
nubbins`: it's condescending in the manner of a teenaged boy who thinks he's figured everything out
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-]
nubbins`: PEOPLE
mircea_popescu: do you see a problem with not calling virgin females women ?
nubbins`: the same implication is there, but i don't have to use a miscarriage of a clumsy forced portmanteau to do it
nubbins`: "listen up sheeple"
nubbins`: i instinctively stop listening/reading when i see it
nubbins`: because it's always bracketed with idiocy
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.00601 = 0.6311 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: but do you see a problem with not calling virgin females women.
nubbins`: what do i care what they're called?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.71 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.00601 = 0.6311 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: just making the point that in the same way people might not want to call idiots "people"/
mircea_popescu: sure, one day they too may be people. that day hasn't so far come.
nubbins`: well, it doesn't necessarily need to be people
nubbins`: but sheeple shouldn't even be considered
mircea_popescu: wlel i don't use it myself.
nubbins`: that's because you're not a kid who just discovered his first conspiracy website
mircea_popescu: that should be a brand
mircea_popescu: "my first conspiraci website"
mircea_popescu: "my first hentai site"
mircea_popescu: "my etc"
BingoBoingo: "My first waterboarding"
nubbins`: my first victim
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00082648 = 8.5954 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: In college late in the academic year the roommates and the self were having a discussion on the ethics of torture so we all took turns getting waterboarded. Some observations 1. It terrifies the most when the cloth is soaked. 2. It isn't very pleasant
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: 3. Two people from that night haven't spoken to the others in years while the other two still drink together most every weekend.
chaang-noi: for people who dont know, tradefortress was "hacked" and lost over 4000 coins
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 22 @ 0.00601181 = 0.1323 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: chaang-noi: Old news, happened hours ago. Barely a memory in bitcoin time
chaang-noi: "for people who dont know," clearly not for you...
Apocalyptic: the goat is out of the loop
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.7 = 4.9 BTC [-] {2}
chaang-noi: the goat is making sure everyone waking up is in the loop...
kakobrekla: have you heard, pirate defaulted
kakobrekla: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 275.00000, Best ask: 277.00000, Bid-ask spread: 2.00000, Last trade: 274.20000, 24 hour volume: 45884.19332570, 24 hour low: 253.50000, 24 hour high: 277.09850, 24 hour vwap: 265.39350
chaang-noi: thanks kako...
kakobrekla: you are welcome!
chaang-noi: i guess i wont be getting them coins back after all, with that interest i was up to 143,453,835,365 coins owed :(
chaang-noi: so much for buying japan
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.00605 = 0.1573 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.32782971 BTC [-]
gribble: Time since last block: 6 minutes and 10 seconds
dexX7: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 0.8626 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00172864074185 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
dexX7: did johnk come back by the way?
mircea_popescu: lol mike_c
dexX7: ah, thanks for the link
kakobrekla: but has not paid?
mike_c: let me spoon feed it to you :D "John K logged on, replied, and released the escrow funds today."
kakobrekla: om nom
mircea_popescu: yeah looks like the guy had some sort of personal problems or w/e
mircea_popescu: he's been quiet
kakobrekla: maybe he held the coins in inputs.io
Apocalyptic: would be unfortunate
mike_c: 0 volume on s.mg, s.nsa, s.bbet since sunday. bubble scaring investors maybe, turning them into hoarders..
mircea_popescu: mpex investors are traditionally the buy and hold sort.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.71 BTC [+]
mike_c: yeah, looking at numbers it's not unusual. there have been a bunch of times this year that bbet went 3 or more days without trading.
mike_c: wow, mpoe only has two gaps all year (the outages). other than that, traded every day.
mircea_popescu: yeah whole different dynamic
mircea_popescu: then again it's about two degrees of magnitude heavier or some shit
dub: that sugru shit looks cool
dub: quite close to shoegoo though
mike_c: ;;bc,24hprc
gribble: 259.98
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