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mircea_popescu: is the ppsh the one where they had to pool the cartridges for the entire regiment and then sort them by size ?
mircea_popescu: as everything was slightly different
asciilifeform: the one that would go full auto if you dropped it.
asciilifeform: re: vietnam:
asciilifeform: "The VC used this recovered equipment to equip there own rather meager supplies as would any good guerilla force. The intercepted document reinforced this practice, exhorting the VC troops to
asciilifeform: police the battle fields for usable equipment. This document however, had one telling
asciilifeform: exception to the rule. It stated that all equipment was to be picked up with the exception of
asciilifeform: "the little black rifle" which is useless to our cause!"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.639999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 246 @ 0.00585002 = 1.4391 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: Well they still use SAVILLE for voice transmissions. If the guns themselves are diddled into non-functionality Suite A probably is too, so leave the radios
asciilifeform: gotta wonder, how many 'own goals' this scored.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.64 = 1.28 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Probably quite a few. A few years ago there were stories about how Green Berets were growing beards and dressing like locals to not get shot in more remote areas of Afghanistan. I wonder how many drone operators seeing armed men of military age... Well this is plaintext...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.67699 = 1.354 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 43 @ 0.70451393 = 30.2941 BTC [+] {10}
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo drones are run from langley
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Actually mostly from various california installations, less lag
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.721 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: lagley lol
BingoBoingo: At least that's what every "Day in the life of an IRL Flight Sim Pro" confessional story says
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.0063437 = 0.222 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 27 @ 0.72219999 = 19.4994 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: i wonder if i'm the only one who reads appaling crud like http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brian-glyn-williams/the-killing-of-hakimullah_b_4225444.html and thinks of the fakir of ipi.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00082956 = 2.6546 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.721 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 109 @ 0.00634339 = 0.6914 BTC [-] {2}
KRS-: something awful is good too
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 413 @ 0.00200939 = 0.8299 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 69 @ 0.00635491 = 0.4385 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.72 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 227 @ 0.00635836 = 1.4433 BTC [+] {3}
KRS-: could you imagine the terror drones puts in those towelheads
KRS-: i bet they're afraid most of the time to strap on their sandals and leave their huts
mircea_popescu: if the towelheads were your average supermarket cashier from ohio at least.
KRS-: that particular assassination (drone strike) should never have happened..now additional lives will be lost without more peace talks
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.00635823 = 0.6676 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.0063584 = 0.2098 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Well the most disturbing thing I find about drone strikes now is Obama saw the suicide bomber tactic of the double tap where a second weapon hit first responders and decided "That's cool we will start doing that shit too nao"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00644894 = 1.2898 BTC [+] {8}
mircea_popescu: check that shit out. apparently the germans salvaged the ppsh!
KRS-: where did you get that from bingoboingo
mircea_popescu: ;;google drone strike double tap
gribble: BBC News - Drones kill rescuers in 'double tap', say activists: <http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24557333>; Get the Data: The return of double-tap drone strikes | The Bureau of ...: <http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2013/08/01/get-the-data-the-return-of-double-tap-drone-strikes/>; US Drone Tweets Reveal 'Double Tap' Plan - Business Insider: (1 more message)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 52 @ 0.00650784 = 0.3384 BTC [+] {3}
KRS-: Thanks-
KRS-: Looks like a weapon to compete with our Thompsons
KRS-: those are reputible sites for accurate info?
KRS-: thats messed up
BingoBoingo: Well, it is a story critical of Obama in a fairly mainstream publication
KRS-: cant believe he's the best we could come up with..of all the intelligent ment
KRS-: men and women
mircea_popescu: intelligent men and women don't want the job.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.735 = 1.47 BTC [+] {2}
KRS-: hah good one
BingoBoingo: It's also the matter of the US has on armed gang then has popular elections between two parties the armed gang finds equally unobjectionable to its causes
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 101 @ 0.00674606 = 0.6814 BTC [+] {3}
KRS-: well..yeah.
KRS-: the prez can only mobilize 10K troops without declaring war
BingoBoingo: KRS-: Well since the first president Roosevelt and the Great white fleet presidents have been testing the limits of that.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 140 @ 0.0462 = 6.468 BTC [-] {2}
KRS-: I'm ashamed of what our country has come to.. we stood for some really good things and worthy causes (and still do afaik).
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 30 @ 0.04606673 = 1.382 BTC [-] {3}
KRS-: I think its cool we use our heft against human rights violations but on the other hand it sucks my government is disregarding basic rights.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 161 @ 0.045001 = 7.2452 BTC [-]
KRS-: like privacy
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 502 @ 0.045 = 22.59 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.00674998 = 0.1282 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3349729 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.31000061 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.73 = 3.65 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.7888557 = 5.522 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.83684999 = 16.737 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 56 @ 0.00674998 = 0.378 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 178 @ 0.00674998 = 1.2015 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.84 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00674999 = 0.135 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.84 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00674999 = 0.675 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00083127 = 9.144 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 420 @ 0.00109 = 0.4578 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1000 @ 0.00703797 = 7.038 BTC [+] {20}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 471 @ 0.00776068 = 3.6553 BTC [+] {17}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 21 @ 0.00802006 = 0.1684 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 140 @ 0.00109 = 0.1526 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2331 @ 0.000139 = 0.324 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.79385384 = 10.3201 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3294 @ 0.00082612 = 2.7212 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00083304 = 11.9125 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7201 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.007899 = 0.2607 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 22 @ 0.0079 = 0.1738 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 204 @ 0.0020567 = 0.4196 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00083057 = 6.7276 BTC [-]
ozbot: AM Immersion Cooling Project
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00083057 = 1.9934 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 84 @ 0.0020567 = 0.1728 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 24 @ 0.00705 = 0.1692 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.00701177 = 0.3576 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 9 @ 0.0462 = 0.4158 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.045 = 0.135 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 14 @ 0.00765714 = 0.1072 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 115 @ 0.0020567 = 0.2365 BTC [-]
ozbot: Creedence Clearwater Revival - Bad Moon Rising (Live The Johnny Cash TV Show 1969).avi - YouTube
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 330.5, Best ask: 330.6021, Bid-ask spread: 0.10210, Last trade: 330.6, 24 hour volume: 58990.27418492, 24 hour low: 281.0, 24 hour high: 338.34999, 24 hour vwap: 312.21449
jurov: even bitstamp got pushed >300
jurov: er...310
davout: lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.000139 = 0.139 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 335 @ 0.001094 = 0.3665 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: sooo, mpex now lists options from 110 to 980
jurov: oh?
jurov: oh...
mircea_popescu: $vwap O.USD.C110T
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
mircea_popescu: $depth O.USD.C110T
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: O.USD.C110T Bids: ['1000 @ 0.63542938', '1000 @ 0.63542938']
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.9078359', '1000 @ 0.90783593']
mircea_popescu: $depth O.USD.P980T
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: O.USD.P980T Bids: ['1000 @ 2.27172015', '1000 @ 2.27172015']
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: Asks: ['1000 @ 4.0090038', '1000 @ 4.00900388']
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 16 @ 0.00660091 = 0.1056 BTC [-]
jurov: $depth O.USD.C980N
mpexbot: jurov: O.USD.C980N Bids: ['1000 @ 2e-08', '1000 @ 2e-08']
mpexbot: jurov: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.17958811', '1000 @ 0.17958826']
jurov: ;;calc 980/(1-0.18)
gribble: 1195.12195122
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00082657 = 3.3889 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: fucking insanity on a stick, this year i had to do this THREE TIMES
mircea_popescu: does anyone even remember what the options tableau was in like, 15th jan ?
jurov: you should change to scientific notation
mircea_popescu: or how scandalously excessive a max of 320 was back in april ?
jurov: lol O.USD.9.8E2N
mircea_popescu: jurov word up : at this rate next year we'll be ditching a zero, so 1500 usd will be o.usd.c150t
mircea_popescu: im not implementing fucking scientific notation. parabolic asset from hell jesus god.
truffles: jesus != god
jurov: not parabolic. exponential :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.0008295 = 6.0968 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 105 @ 0.00194647 = 0.2044 BTC [-] {5}
jurov: have to go afk, will add them in ~ 2 hrs.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1197 @ 0.00176741 = 2.1156 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 185 @ 0.001761 = 0.3258 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P950T] 670 @ 2.17147362 = 1454.8873 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.001761 = 0.5283 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P965T] 715 @ 2.22159689 = 1588.4418 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P980T] 765 @ 2.27172015 = 1737.8659 BTC
mircea_popescu: well at least the book is balanced now... sorta...
pankkake: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 268524 | Current Difficulty: 5.109297380161518E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 270143 | Next Difficulty In: 1619 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 10 hours, 53 minutes, and 32 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 534474198.715 | Estimated Percent Change: 4.60816
pankkake: now that is weird
ozbot: #bitcoin-assets log
mircea_popescu: talking to gold bugs is so fucking funny.
mircea_popescu: pretty much all of them are terribly butthurt at bitcoin, because "here we have been pouring blood sweat and tears into accumulating precious metal
mircea_popescu: and now these nerds are getting all the good stuff we should have gotten long ago. unfair! scam!"
Perlboy: hmmms
Perlboy: my gold and bitcoin holdings are (or at least were until last week :P) equal.
mircea_popescu: ya well, older people usually didn't have that much sense
Perlboy: golds a good investment still though tbh.
Perlboy: "for the real world" anyways
Perlboy: bitcoin is a crazy investment that you do when you got money you can lose
Perlboy: ie. young and stupid. :)
Perlboy: and you'd have to be uber stupid to buy in @ $300 now...
Perlboy: better to get setup and funded in an account
Perlboy: and wait for the inevitable tank
Perlboy: which might be after $1000 :)
truffles: trust fund babies prob wont care though
Perlboy: i dare say the days of <$100 BTC are kinda distant though
Perlboy: 266 -> 50 was the last big correction.
mircea_popescu: notrly that stupid tbh.
Perlboy: based on that if we get to 500 going below $100 on correct seems unlikely.
Perlboy: mircea_popescu, oh i'm bullish and holdin
Perlboy: just saying if you were new to it all and actually looked at the charts
Perlboy: you'd either have to be long term (which is unlikely if you just jumped in and are suddenly buying)
Perlboy: or be ready to halve your cash when u get caught out
Perlboy: s/when/if/
Perlboy: or get real lucky and make what, 20%?
Perlboy: i tell you a bubble right now.
Perlboy: ltc... total powder keg it's turned into.
KRS-: you think ltc is getting ready to blast off?
Perlboy: it already has.
Perlboy: $1.5 4 weeks ago.
Perlboy: peak of 4.5 now.
Perlboy: 300% in 4 weeks.
Perlboy: and unsustainable too
Perlboy: compare the 3 month chart of ltc
Perlboy: vs. btc..
Perlboy: this rise on btc looks a lot more sustainable
Perlboy: ltc rise looks like btc's bubble pop
jurov: all okay
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 102 @ 0.0019 = 0.1938 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 350 @ 0.001094 = 0.3829 BTC [+]
truffles: isnt ltc called scamcoin around here lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 750 @ 0.00109002 = 0.8175 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.72 = 2.16 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 25 @ 0.701 = 17.525 BTC [-]
jurov: oh my mpex changed the options strikes spacing to 15? and i'm still selling 020s ? /o\
jurov: guess i'll have to add a cronjob to grep mpex frontpage for each of my assets ...
KRS-: yuck
jurov: oh and compare checksum the faq when i'm on it
jurov: *while
bitesak: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 331.00001, Best ask: 331.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.99998, Last trade: 331.0, 24 hour volume: 51646.40621339, 24 hour low: 281.0, 24 hour high: 338.34999, 24 hour vwap: 313.48765
kleeck: .d
ozbot: 510929738.01615 | Next Diff in 1613 blocks | Estimated Change: 4.2120% in 10d 17h 12m 47s
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00013429 = 1.3429 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: jurov lol but i just announced!
mircea_popescu: Perlboy yeah. i kinda think longterm, but you have a point.
mircea_popescu: jurov and there's not any way you could have actually sold 20s i don't think.
jurov: that's just me bitching
jurov: and there really still were 020s till yest... so i'm not so much behind times as i thought upon first moment
jurov: :)
jurov: fuck these blow stamps... they not just break character but completely mess up time perception, too.
mircea_popescu: waitwaht ?
jurov: .ud blow stamps
kleeck: lol
kleeck: I love that term
kleeck: Or as my troll friends call them, "CrimeCoins".
mircea_popescu: i rthought they came up with a new type of acid blotter
mircea_popescu: kleeck you should let your friends know them crimecoins are about to turn into yourgfissuckingmeoffcoins
kleeck: I let them know that constantly.
jurov: putasharpieintheasscoins
jurov: *putasharpieinyerasscoins
mircea_popescu: actually lasscoin never happened ?
kleeck: shoeonheaddickinouthCoins
mircea_popescu: what's a nouth
kleeck: ;ud nouth
mircea_popescu: i rthought they came up with a new type of asshole.
assbot: Last 12 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1448555/plain/)
kleeck: ;;ud nouth
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nouth | to crop your facebook photo of just your nose and mouth.
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: nouth
mircea_popescu: bah that didn't co9me out right.
assbot: Last 32 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1448556/plain/)
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell kakobrekla http://dpaste.com/1448556/plain/ starting from "jurov: fuck these blow stamps"
gribble: The operation succeeded.
kleeck: That's cool.
kleeck: Messaging system?
mircea_popescu: next time gribble sees him it goes "o hey, milk!"
kleeck: When he logs in does he get notified or PMd?
kleeck: Cool.
mircea_popescu: not when he logs in, next gribble sees him speak
kleeck: I see.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.31000061 = 0.62 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 691 @ 0.00109 = 0.7532 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 592 @ 0.00108601 = 0.6429 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.31000061 = 2.17 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-]
ozbot: Bitcoin is creating a whole new set of problems pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: old article appreciation hour
kleeck: .d
ozbot: 510929738.01615 | Next Diff in 1612 blocks | Estimated Change: 3.7671% in 10d 18h 11m 18s
kleeck: So, wasn't the TNH over 4PH/s?
mircea_popescu: 3.x, estimated around 4
kleeck: It has dipped apparently.
ozbot: Bitcoin Hash Rate
kleeck: But that looks to be a regular pattern.
mircea_popescu: well, it stopped booming yesterday
mircea_popescu: you have to understand hash guessing is a dirty process mostly based on statistics
kleeck: high of ~4.1 and then the dip to 3.4 today.
kleeck: But look back on that graph you see similar behavior over the last month.
ozbot: Coinchat Is A Chatroom Where Talking Sense Earns You Bitcoin | TechCrunch
mircea_popescu: isn't techcrunch a useful resource :D
kleeck: Ooh.
kleeck: That's like, what we do here, but we can get paid?!
kleeck: By "we" I mean like, four of you.
kleeck: The rest are just little shits.
kleeck: :)
mircea_popescu: i think you missed a layer of lol in there.
sylencr: Same developer as input.io
sylencr: ...
kleeck: Ah. So this glorious pay-to-chat was run by the inputs.io guy...
kleeck: lol
ozbot: CoinLenders Script :: Bitcoin Bank (Borrow+Deposit) Software :: Demo Available
mircea_popescu: "what about coinlenders balance then?
mircea_popescu: can we give you a bitcoin address and you send us our coins?"
mircea_popescu: the post-march retards are so adowable.
mircea_popescu: i imagine with the current lift we;ll get a new set of post-november retards, making the previous set look smart by comparison.
Neil: ;;prevdiffchange
gribble: 30.69637
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1600 @ 0.00108601 = 1.7376 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: options added. mircea_popescu: looks like mpoebot did not set order expiration right?
mircea_popescu: jurov he's getting greedy :p
jurov: heh
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 825 @ 0.001086 = 0.896 BTC [-]
firedrops: AMAGI or Coinabul? which is a better vendor?
mircea_popescu: firedrops coinabul is run by an oldtimer (coingenuity). amagi i dunno
dexX7: hey mp, what's your call for this journey? in april it was 100.
firedrops: interesting, coinabul prices in BTC, amagi in in USD.
firedrops: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 338.90001, Best ask: 339.5, Bid-ask spread: 0.59999, Last trade: 338.9, 24 hour volume: 50588.88029688, 24 hour low: 281.0, 24 hour high: 340.0, 24 hour vwap: 315.01105
dexX7: coinabul had some shady incidences in the past, there is much on the forum
mircea_popescu: dexX7 i'd say we're still within reason.
firedrops: yes, I had some issues with an order, but Idon't know if AMAGI is any better... could be the same guy.
mircea_popescu: pretty sure it's not the same guy. what issues did you have ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 45 @ 0.00739555 = 0.3328 BTC [+] {4}
firedrops: they were fixed, in time, but mostly just zero to slow communication.
mircea_popescu: myeah. it's what i gathered as to the explosion of forum complaints. poor communication skills on one hand coupled with mean/marginalyl dishonest "customers" on the other
coingenuity: firedrops: we've been in an all-out war with the banking community, as have been most large bitcoin companies in the last few months... my apologies for the lax communication, as you can imagine with the delays our support guys have been swamped
dexX7: are you affiliated with coinabul?
mircea_popescu: he runs it.
firedrops: coingenuity: no worries mate, we've been sorted for over a year, that's why I'm looking into using you again...
coingenuity: ah, for sure, thanks for your patience- keeping up with growth can be difficult sometimes
firedrops: i hear you. it's a great problem to have.
coingenuity: heh, depends on the day - last few months have been depressing with the stuff going on behind the scenes in the financial world, but i'm keeping my chin up
nubbins`: good morning, fellow mammals
coingenuity: hard being told by 150 banks to go die in a fire
mircea_popescu: firedrops great problem to have as long as you're not an american living in the us
coingenuity: especially when all the places i had accounts closed me with 24h warning
firedrops: mircea_popescu: too fucking true
mircea_popescu: or generally a citizen of a state moving to socialism.
nubbins`: coingenuity: credit unions?
coingenuity: nubbins`: they told me "whoa bro, you're way too big for us"
mircea_popescu: coingenuity how about you move before they stop issuing passports ?
truffles: thats what she said
coingenuity: mircea_popescu: i've gotten set up with backup residency in other nations now as a result of the experience i've had in the last few months
nubbins`: yeah, amagi is located in colorado
nubbins`: haven't had any problems with them
nubbins`: and i guess they're not having issues with banks
firedrops: coingenuity, make sure your entire exit plan is sorted! to the minute....
mircea_popescu: good. then once you finally move out of the shithole you can run my gold future.
firedrops: :) i want ot buy gold with btc for a long time..
coingenuity: nubbins`: everyone is having problems with banks, if you're big enough
nubbins`: guess they're not big enough ;0
nubbins`: it's funny, canada seems much more welcoming of btc-related business
nubbins`: never woulda thought
mircea_popescu: nubbins` in fairness they're a small outfit, but i never heard anything seriously wrong about them.
coingenuity: nubbins`: also, you can sneak under the radar for a minute but they'll catch you eventually and blacklist you from chexystems... so i am guessing they're playing with fire ;)
coingenuity: the last thing you want is a chexsystems ban
nubbins`: o :)
coingenuity: if you get a black-mark in chexsystems, you will be /fucked/ for the rest of your life
coingenuity: its baaaad
nubbins`: "The majority of banks using ChexSystems will not open a new deposit account for a customer that has a negative item reported."
coingenuity: and around 80% of all banks in the usa use chexsystems
nubbins`: shitty
coingenuity: so it's a bad bad thing to have happen to ya
mircea_popescu: coingenuity iirc it's a 5 year tyhing
mircea_popescu: also you can challenge it
coingenuity: mircea_popescu: only recently have chexsystems protections been enacted for banking consumers
coingenuity: but you're right, you can "challenge" it
nubbins`: challenging such agencies is generally a huge process
coingenuity: same way you can "challenge" paypal's freezing of you
nubbins`: go ahead and try to get equifax to remove something from your record
mircea_popescu: actually paypal will issue a check if you sue them
mircea_popescu: but you have to actually file the papers.
nubbins`: playing chicken
nubbins`: i wonder if casascius will respond to my post today
mircea_popescu: of course they'll also ban you, but then again it's their website/forum/we it is.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00083238 = 6.3261 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: good for her
nubbins`: those companies hold too much power
mircea_popescu: it's usually that people don't quite have the ability ot use the courts.
nubbins`: either due to lack of finances, time, know-how, or all three
mircea_popescu: it's also a matter of people being trained to be dependant on lawyers
mircea_popescu: which makes most people unable to reach the court at all
nubbins`: double nod
mircea_popescu: as many counties simply do not have a lawyer that will take a vast majority of cases
nubbins`: you can do it all yourself, but it's a bit overwhelming
nubbins`: and easy to miss things
mircea_popescu: yeah, that's not practical for average guy.
mircea_popescu: or for anyone who actually has a job.
nubbins`: i filed a simple damage claim for $3k about 3 months ago and it's still clattering around the justice system
nubbins`: drove to another city yesterday to file a paper "oh lel you need your wife's signature too"
nubbins`: went back today, "leel you can't file this until tuesday"
mircea_popescu: why don't you efile ?!
nubbins`: not an option in this case
mircea_popescu: mother of inconvenience.
nubbins`: besides, e-anything in this province requires IE :(
mircea_popescu: hahahaha WHAT
nubbins`: and i'm not installing a VM just to use my government's website
nubbins`: no joke, i had to register pink eye using paper forms
nubbins`: in 2013
mircea_popescu: sillyness
mircea_popescu: well... ig uess you got all those trees...
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firedrops: all of south korea uses IE
truffles: whats wrong with IE?
truffles: its a lot better these days
ozbot: South Korea is stuck with Internet Explorer for online shopping because of security law - The Washin
nubbins`: south korean online banking is all activex controls
mircea_popescu: firedrops omfg what
nubbins`: TBF you do need a private key issued by the bank to be installed on your PC tho
nubbins`: and they give you a one-time pad that you need as well
mircea_popescu: lmao who's that ben white fuckwit ?
mircea_popescu: o, cnbc. splendid, on mp's black list he goes.
nubbins`: "current POLITICO Chief Economic Correspondent and Morning Money columnist, CNBC contributor, ex nyt, ft, wapo. tweets often snarkastic"
nubbins`: he's so snarkastic!
mircea_popescu: curious how long until he discoveres further ways means and reasons to hate btc.
mircea_popescu: so is south korean banking about 50% hacking ?
nubbins`: i never had any problems w/ it, but all i'd ever do was dump money to send back home, so i never really held a balance
mircea_popescu: "a string of massive data thefts and cyberattacks in recent years."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5536 @ 0.00083268 = 4.6097 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: The province had argued that its environmental protection cleanup orders were not "claims" under insolvency laws, and thereby fell outside that process.
mircea_popescu: the fuck. where do the bureaucrats get the nerve ?
nubbins`: many faces were red when this went down
nubbins`: big company closes mill, threatens to close another
nubbins`: government seizes assets
nubbins`: accidentally siezes shitty, polluting mill, is left on hook for enviro cleanup
mircea_popescu: wait a second. what do you mean "seizes assets" ?
firedrops: wow, that's ufcked
nubbins`: i mean exactly what it sounds like
firedrops: companies do that all the time...
nubbins`: they didn't like the way Abitibi was putting people out of work
nubbins`: so they said "what's yours is now ours"
mircea_popescu: The company filed a $500-million NAFTA challenge, settling two years ago for a $130-million payout from Ottawa.
mircea_popescu: lol. sweet.
mircea_popescu: hopefully the nf&l government has learned that being cocky costs 1/4 billion out of the budget.
firedrops: exxon has a site fenced off in houston, fenced my entire life, they have been pouring millions into it since '88 for very serious chemical spills. Luckily my city did not sieze it.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: unfortunately, no
mircea_popescu: that's great, it means there's more 1/4 billions for the taking in the nf&l tax chest.
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nubbins`: altho the premier at the time all that was happening is now back in the private sector
nubbins`: after having conveniently purchased a massive city-sized piece of land from the province
mircea_popescu: "Environment Minister Tom Hedderson said the province must still do assessments for any necessary cleanups, but Hedderson would not be drawn into a discussion on timelines."
mircea_popescu: o wait. now it's no longer a matter of deadlines, is it
nubbins`: industry has deadlines, government has timelines ;)
mircea_popescu: there is no way out of this crap other than complete bankruptcy for any and all public institutions.
nubbins`: newfoundland went bankrupt in the 1930s
mircea_popescu: the day the canadian governor general is in the street dancing for pennies you know rebuilding can start.
nubbins`: it didn't change anything D;
mircea_popescu: it didn't REALLY go bankrupt.
mircea_popescu: i mean weimar bankrupt.
nubbins`: a-ha!
mircea_popescu: i mean "we can't afford to buy any food this week, at all" bankrupt.
nubbins`: bankrupt enough that britain gave us away to canada ;p
nubbins`: (srsly)
mircea_popescu: ya i kno. ideally they all go bankrupt at the same time,
mircea_popescu: so the us president is also in the street dancing for nickles.
nubbins`: but the bean counters!
nubbins`: you know people were seriously nominating william shatner for governor general?
nubbins`: like there was a campaign and everything?
mircea_popescu: i dunno wo that is
nubbins`: star trek actor
nubbins`: seriously!!
nubbins`: scumbag journalists in the senate
nubbins`: and an actor as the queen's representative!
nubbins`: have we gone mad?
mircea_popescu: reagan worked well for the us.
nubbins`: terminator worked well for california
mircea_popescu: actually he wasn't their worst.
nubbins`: my goodness
mircea_popescu: california is so utterly fucked however, baby jesus couldn't help
nubbins`: lel nod
firedrops: mickey mouse gets around 10k write in votes per presidential election... proof postive this place is fucked.
nubbins`: no write-in voting here
mircea_popescu: firedrops back in the communist days, the town fool in my town regularly won the election.
mircea_popescu: then the next day they'd report the 9x% whatever commie party result
nubbins`: oh, speaking of town elections
firedrops: sounds familiar
nubbins`: i've got a gem, hold on
mircea_popescu: but they went to the trouble of actually falsifying the ballots
mircea_popescu: took the poor fucks days
firedrops: he had to 'legitimize' his new power :)
ozbot: Wiseman confirmed mayor of Paradise - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News
nubbins`: incumbent mayor ties with 19-year-old kid for number of votes
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.1203 BTC [-]
nubbins`: tiebreaker = drawing name from a recycling bin
nubbins`: hahaha
mircea_popescu: you don't have 2nd run ?
nubbins`: i think they recounted a couple of times
mjoiii__: How does a recount change the outcome?
nubbins`: 19 year old was sore, and demanded that another name-from-a-hat draw take place
nubbins`: mjoiii__: depends on how badly they fucked the count
mjoiii__: Is there really that much variance in the counting itself?
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nubbins`: not in this instance
firedrops: can be, yes.
mircea_popescu: you can never get the same ballot count again no matter what
mircea_popescu: 1st rule of vote counting.
nubbins`: 1,821 votes each, you recount
nubbins`: now, this is glossing over the fact that the INCUMBENT MAYOR received the same # of votes as a 19 year old child
nubbins`: which itself speaks volumes
nubbins`: oh my
mircea_popescu: nubbins` was the hat provably fair ?
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: it was a large blue recycling bin. no word on the fairness thereof
nubbins`: here's the 19 year old almost-mayor with his family:
ozbot: Shrieking patient shuts down N.L. legislature - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News
mircea_popescu: Chelsie Coombs, 18
nubbins`: sister
firedrops: lol @ title
nubbins`: pics of both if you scroll down
mircea_popescu: The family also wants Eastern Health CEO Vickie Kaminski to resign for having made public comments to an open-line radio show about Coombs's case, particularly a suggestion that the woman's size is a reason why hydrotherapy is not available to her.
mircea_popescu: so this is a whale that considers it's the pm's problem whether she gets the sort of enema she likes ?
mircea_popescu: dude buy some pillories.
nubbins`: see, it's indefensible. they can wheel a stretcher into the house of assembly and scream and shout and call for resignations
nubbins`: but the government can't just go to the media and speak about the specifics of the case, because health care info
nubbins`: so their options are pay up or ignore
nubbins`: they chose 'ignore' :)
mircea_popescu: how about the Coombs Law
mircea_popescu: making it so that there's five 4 person pillories installed in front of the house
firedrops: this is too much. whale hydrotherapy
mircea_popescu: and all annoying poor people are whipped there naked regularly ?
nubbins`: this is all driven by the mother
ozbot: Newfoundland couple takes summer vacation to hold a protest at Sobeys head office - Business - The N
nubbins`: ^ same family
ozbot: - family sues companys (General Discussions - The Coffee Corner)
nubbins`: ^ same family
mircea_popescu: this is about as bad as the us, really.
nubbins`: it's a spectacle, for sure
nubbins`: luckily this type of behavior isn't too common here yet
mircea_popescu: but there's no disincentive
mircea_popescu: so it will become the norm.
nubbins`: oh, this reminds me, there was one of those "freemen on the land" cases here
mircea_popescu: basically the irresponsible government of canada is offloading its burden to beat these people into submission upon me.
nubbins`: in recent weeks
mircea_popescu: what the fuck is this. disaster of commons.
ozbot: Amy Collins sentenced to house arrest, probation - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News
nubbins`: a 7-day psych evaluation led her to recant her claims of being not under the authority of the courts
nubbins`: the terror of which i can't imagine
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.14845 = 0.2969 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: the "guru" from which she took advice, coincidentally, grew up about 4 houses down the road from me
nubbins`: said guru was arrested for impersonating a doctor about 15 years ago
mircea_popescu: i wonder when the first arrest for impersonating a mp will happen.
nubbins`: so, y'know, the sort of person you'd take legal advice from
nubbins`: that'd be like impersonating a child killer, there's nothing to gain
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 341.99501, Best ask: 344.00001, Bid-ask spread: 2.00500, Last trade: 344.00001, 24 hour volume: 51857.58906994, 24 hour low: 281.0, 24 hour high: 346.9, 24 hour vwap: 316.54302
firedrops: "yes, i'm mircea_popescu, interlocutor".............. "GTFO"
firedrops: you ruin everyone's party with reality MP, nobody wants you around.
mircea_popescu: you have all hurt my feelings.
nubbins`: don't drag me into thi
ThickAsThieves: stop being mean to mp
mircea_popescu: i now need hydrotherapy in the shape of being tongue massaged by nubile young women
ThickAsThieves: heathens
firedrops: dems just jokes, MP. i gots love for ya.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.045 = 0.225 BTC [-]
nubbins`: courier just dropped off a ton of inks
nubbins`: and two pantone color guides!!
nubbins`: ...and, inexplicably, there's a dozen cookies packed in with the inks
ThickAsThieves: gotta love vendor treats
nubbins`: i've always wanted a set of pantone guides
nubbins`: excited to finally get em
ThickAsThieves: I have one of those full sets in the suitcase things
ThickAsThieves: somewhere...
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
nubbins`: this is awesome
ThickAsThieves: the plus series, oo la la
firedrops: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 343.00001, Best ask: 344.995, Bid-ask spread: 1.99499, Last trade: 343.00001, 24 hour volume: 50386.12703390, 24 hour low: 281.0, 24 hour high: 346.9, 24 hour vwap: 316.94563
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.73 = 1.46 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 948 @ 0.001086 = 1.0295 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: what if history shows that right now is what decided the world power for the next 200 years, with whichever country buys more bitcoins, China vs US
ThickAsThieves: just a mass redistribution of wealth
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 70 @ 0.00759899 = 0.5319 BTC [-]
nubbins`: i was musing on bitcoin's nouveau riche last night
nubbins`: who would have thought that hedge fund managers and investment bankers would be falling over themselves trying to buy blow stamps from computer nerds?
mircea_popescu: ahh that's better
nubbins`: nice bath?
mircea_popescu: there's worse fates.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves well... it's kinda what it is.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8309 @ 0.00083721 = 6.9564 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: indeed, i just meant specifically how China is going rabid
ThickAsThieves: if some propagandist were to make this a competition...
nubbins`: man, these cookies are actually really good.
dexX7: that's one "theory": china's gov started to buy after the sr grap
nubbins`: i'll be ordering inks from these guys again
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 20 @ 0.04899999 = 0.98 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: 1. bake pot in cookies 2. take over the world.
ThickAsThieves: charts are starting to look a little silly...
kakobrekla: they are silly most of the time in btc
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 347.0001, Best ask: 348.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.99990, Last trade: 347.0001, 24 hour volume: 50547.01910383, 24 hour low: 281.0, 24 hour high: 348.4, 24 hour vwap: 317.21547
ThickAsThieves: gox has btc deposit problems right now
mircea_popescu: was that the only kind of problem mtgox hadn't had yet ?
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: i prefer pot muffins
kakobrekla: no they had deposit problems before
nubbins`: but that's just because i make really good muffins
kakobrekla: but anyway thats bad.
nubbins`: tat, virtex had btc deposits disabled yesterday for a few hours
nubbins`: something about "oh fuck traffic"
mircea_popescu: "psychedelic muff weed"
nubbins`: now that's an album cover
nubbins`: the slightly-peeled "new" sticker in the top left really pulls it together
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.31000044 = 3.1 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 82 @ 0.31000003 = 25.42 BTC [-] {6}
ozbot: TOMS Steps in Shit | Pure Film Creative
mircea_popescu: i like this guy's venom
nubbins`: i bought a pair of toms
nubbins`: they look nice, but they have zero arch support
thestringpuller: ;;seen smickles
nubbins`: and i destroyed them after 3 months of indoor-only use
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 0 days, 20 hours, 30 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <smickles> $avg
mircea_popescu: i think if i went on an inspection right now i couldn't find anyone that side of the atlantic in good shoes.
nubbins`: seriously, holes worn right through the sides
thestringpuller: guy vanishes with everyone's money during bubbles
nubbins`: well, depends on what you mean by "good shoes"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.05199999 = 0.104 BTC [+]
nubbins`: i generally wear low-cut hikers
ThickAsThieves: do skeletoes count?
mircea_popescu: nubbins` no sports plastic things qualify.
mircea_popescu: good shoes are made of leather.
nubbins`: then i guess i'm ok!
nubbins`: at my old job, we had a "wellness subsidy"
nubbins`: $500 per year to spend on health-related things, like a gym membership or a bicycle
nubbins`: or a high-end pair of hiking shoes :D
benkay: ;;ticker --currency xau
gribble: MtGox BTCXAU ticker | Best bid: 0.2816, Best ask: 0.282312, Bid-ask spread: 0.00071, Last trade: 0.282312, 24 hour volume: 51403.27642857, 24 hour low: 0.2248, 24 hour high: 0.28303732, 24 hour vwap: 0.254507624
mircea_popescu: strange thing is that they're not even expensive. in ppp terms people spent about 10x on shoes 100 years ago as what it'd cost to get a decent pair today
nubbins`: needless to say, after working there for 3 years, i've got three REALLY good pairs of hikers
mircea_popescu: yet people buy the chinese crap, nike/adidas/whagever
nubbins`: well, it's not just shoes. people will buy ten $2 hammers rather than splurge on a $25 one that'll last a lifetime
nubbins`: the cost of good quality hasn't changed
nubbins`: there's just way more shit quality for cheap
kakobrekla: you can break a hammer?!
nubbins`: you can break a $2 hammer
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i have seen this. thing split right though the middle.
kakobrekla: dafuq.
mircea_popescu: i have no idea what it was made out of, it seemed sheeny on the outside, but looked more like porous ceramic inside.
kakobrekla: well dunno i used hammers more than an average guy on this chan and never seen it
kakobrekla: lucky i guess.
benkay: but have you used *more* hammers?
nubbins`: haha
benkay: ;)
nubbins`: have you used *cheap* hammers?
mircea_popescu: "my hammers, let me show you them"
nubbins`: i had a plumber in a couple of weeks ago, and he lelled heavily at my shitty $5 pipe cutter
ThickAsThieves: kako would never use a hammer that was sub-kako
nubbins`: "that's not a pipe cutter, THIS is a pipe cutter"
bgupta: I'm sure folks have seen this, but US Fed Reserve Economist publishes generally positive note about bitcoin: http://www.chicagofed.org/digital_assets/publications/chicago_fed_letter/2013/cfldecember2013_317.pdf
mircea_popescu: bgupta yeah good link
nubbins`: bgupta: that's what caused the run-up to 350
benkay: no wait max keizer caused the runup to 350
nubbins`: "Some child in a hovel in Bolivia is throwing a pair of TOMS shoes at her mother right now, screaming, “What does this shithole look like to you, the Hamptons? I don’t want another pair of fucking beach shoes. I want to eat meat!”"
nubbins`: aaah, my sides
benkay: no wait the new sr honeypot caused the runup to 350
nubbins`: it's so true
nubbins`: know what'd be a nice gift? a job in a shoe factory
nubbins`: know what's a lousy gift? a pair of shoes that falls apart after 3 months of indoor use
nubbins`: now imagine those same shoes on a CHILD who spends their day OUTSIDE
benkay: but you know what makes american women tingle?
benkay: doing good in the world.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.731 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: nubbins` yeah, that's where i was when i linked it.
nubbins`: oh my god this article goes straight from TOMS to Dov Charney
nubbins`: what is this, my birthday?
ThickAsThieves: BTCT closing caused the runup
benkay: glbse closing caused the runup
kakobrekla: bitcoininca shutdown is not stabilizing prices anymore
mircea_popescu: the apostolic bitcoin jesus gets no mention ?
benkay: apoplectic bitcoin jesus caused the runup
ThickAsThieves: new word for me
kakobrekla: satoshi initial code release causing the runup
mircea_popescu: it just means karpeles
benkay: vehaha caused the runup
ThickAsThieves: these dudes and their handlebars
ThickAsThieves: you need to actually be eccentric to be eccentric
benkay: dov charney. now there's a man who can slay gash.
nubbins`: sleazeball
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves has it. that fag just looks like an unkempt gypsy
nubbins`: it's funny how many people trip about american apparel tees
nubbins`: "they're made in downtown LA"
nubbins`: yeah, by illegal immigrants
nubbins`: in a factory run by a molester
mircea_popescu: at least they're getting free abortions, apostate.
nubbins`: "omg AA shirts are so stylish"
thestringpuller: kiiiids suck
mircea_popescu: so crude this shit.
benkay: what's the point of having a secretary who won't blow you during meetings, eh?
nubbins`: "i love their ad where the woman is on the verge of tears, with her legs spread open"
mircea_popescu: seriouisly, "now open" ? that's what they got ?
mircea_popescu: benkay but she has to want to.
ThickAsThieves: send photo to apply for job, nice
jborkl: Why do they only use ugly girls
nubbins`: im just gonna send these to the next person who says they want AA tees
mircea_popescu: why did they put an eskimo on the japan ad ?
mircea_popescu: and for that matter, a bolivian on the dutch ad ?
ThickAsThieves: its the modern UCB
thestringpuller: stop being racist mircea_popescu
ThickAsThieves: united colors of benetton
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i was thinking that!
mircea_popescu: sounds like this shitty european brand that's been a laughingstock for two decades by now
nubbins`: i'll leave a google image search of "dov charney", owner of AA, as an exercise to the reader
nubbins`: puts the ads in context
mircea_popescu: nubbins` so do you hate him because he's rich and dorky or because he has no appreciation of torturing women and does it by what appears to be sheer accident ?
benkay: i was going to ask what the diff you see between mircea_popescu and d.c. is, nubs, but mp beat me to it
nubbins`: both those reasons, as well as the fact that his products are shit with huge price tags
nubbins`: as well as the fact that he's a sleazeball
mircea_popescu: benkay im working for the loaded questions championship
nubbins`: as well as the fact that he's tricked the t-shirt buying public into thinking that a sweatshop in LA is the ethical way to make tees
nubbins`: i could go on
benkay: it's a bad thing to trick the public now?
nubbins`: it's a bad thing when it makes my job harder
benkay: you're the one in a commodity biz
mircea_popescu: benkay yeah. the good thing is to ruin everyone's party with physics, then they can all hate you
nubbins`: well, that's why i get to complain.
mircea_popescu: so you can go get glossal applied hydrotherapy
ThickAsThieves: at some point marketing turns into a "trick" over time, without trying
nubbins`: haha, glossotherapy
mircea_popescu: totally.
nubbins`: much better than glossolalia
mircea_popescu: someone should ask people if they believe glossotherapy should be covered under obamacare.
asciilifeform: peanut gallery hates physics. you walk in, their /perpetuum mobile/ stops. who likes that.
nubbins`: is it the pentecostals that are known for that?
benkay: it's all religious morons.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, reddit didn't even like my colors of gray!
nubbins`: hahaha
ThickAsThieves: rallying again, heh
mircea_popescu: in fairness, the guy does look like he did a fair chunk of meth in his day
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 349.74052, Best ask: 356.989, Bid-ask spread: 7.24848, Last trade: 356.989, 24 hour volume: 52024.01339181, 24 hour low: 281.0, 24 hour high: 357.41017, 24 hour vwap: 319.5092
benkay: i'm confused is dc a fake ass or a real ass in your opinion, nubbins`?
thestringpuller: lol there is an AA in echo park?
nubbins`: in this context, the implication is that he's both fake and an ass
mircea_popescu: benkay he's a literal ass that's also a fake.
benkay: >.<
mircea_popescu: i for one welcome our new postmodern overwords.
ozbot: American Apparel CEO Hit With $250M Teen Sex Suit - Dov Charney accused of forcing sex on young e
nubbins`: "their shirts are so stylish"
nubbins`: "do you guys carry american apparel tees"
ozbot: Bitcoin's Market Value Is About To Go Astronomical - YouTube
mircea_popescu: o god. the idiot parade is already revving up huh.
ThickAsThieves: we have to know when to sell somehow
mircea_popescu: someone tell each and every fuckwith that no, bitcoin's market value is not about to go astronomical.
benkay: guess that option bet isn't going to pay off this month
mircea_popescu: and also that nobody asked them what they think.
mircea_popescu: benkay it's ridiculous how it works, price moves as soon as there's a large option play
nubbins`: "But during the reporting for Ko's piece, Charney did something he now regrets. Within the context of a flirtatious conversation about sexuality and the pleasure Charney derives from masturbation with a willing partner, he decided to demonstrate for Ko, and it became a repeated motif in their later encounters."
dexX7: haha no, watch it, it's worth imho
mircea_popescu: wait... he jacked off ?!
nubbins`: man started masturbating during a media interview
mircea_popescu: dude these people ;/
nubbins`: you can't make this shit up!!!
mircea_popescu: but... but why!
nubbins`: "yeah i really like AA tees because they're, like, fairly made"
nubbins`: i should do up handbills that i can just give to people when they request AA shirts
benkay: i really like aa tees because i admire don's power plays
benkay: plus bitches cream for a man what looks good in a v
mircea_popescu: "ene Morales, now 20, alleges that Dov Charney began sexually harassing her when she was 17 and ordered her to come to his apartment when she turned 18. The suit alleges Charney kept her prisoner for hours and forced her to perform numerous sexual acts,"
benkay: i thought he was in the habit of making them sign waivers?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.31000001 = 1.24 BTC [-]
benkay: hey mircea_popescu are you implying the option play drives prices or that the option player sees the moves coming?
mircea_popescu: girl is forced to perform numerous sexual acts and held prisoner 3 years ago
benkay: or that the fiat exchange market is batshit insane?
mircea_popescu: remembers all this casually while riding the bus 3 years later
mircea_popescu: vibration jogged her memory.
mircea_popescu: benkay in this case it actually made the 2nd guy money, but it most often goes the other way
benkay: that's why those after-incident texts are so important
nubbins`: shrug. he's been in trouble plenty of times for hiring illegal immigrants. he prolly threatened to have her deported
mircea_popescu: nubbins` so ?
nubbins`: or, yknow, maybe he's a misunderstood gentleman :0
nubbins`: so, you'd be surprised what people will do in order to not get kicked out of a country
mircea_popescu: the girl liked being raped so much she feared being returned to her country above all things ?
benkay: in this case the second guy means the options bot?
mircea_popescu: benkay was a batch of options traded yest, and a batch today.
mircea_popescu: anyway, let's get back to our geek roots :
mircea_popescu: someone in the kuipier belt broke out the asteroid o nine tails.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.31000001 = 1.24 BTC [-]
nubbins`: cool
nubbins`: i missed the solar eclipse the other day :(
mircea_popescu: person over my shouylder
ThickAsThieves: what better way to travel than as a rock
mircea_popescu: "oh, that's just somebody mining"
nubbins`: spacecoins
ThickAsThieves: it's probly Google
benkay: "In astronomy, where you find one, you eventually find a whole bunch more,"
truffles: <mircea_popescu> the girl liked being raped so much she feared being returned to her country above all things ? >>> wtf ppl why's he making most sense itc , disappoint
benkay: true of the world in general. thank you, american science.
nubbins`: fuck. this. i'm having another one of these cookies
truffles: chocolate chip?
nubbins`: with a tip o' the hat to stanley's sign and screen supplies
nubbins`: oatmeal
nubbins`: and i generally don't like oatmeal
truffles: no raisins?
ThickAsThieves: Wired wisdom: "This $1.2M hack shows you why you should never store your bitcoins on the internet."
nubbins`: no raisins
mircea_popescu: buttcoins go in butts for storage
nubbins`: "This Wired headline uses euphemisms that will escape many"
mircea_popescu: the wired is very sensible. i hope it tells us more about chatting for bitcoin (offline)
kakobrekla: random ltc fanboi comments: "Yeah, thats why i use litecoin instead"
nubbins`: "7 insane reasons not to store your blowstamps on the intertubes!"
nubbins`: haha
ozbot: An Exoskeleton That Boosts Biceps Wins James Dyson's $45,000 Prize | Wired Design | Wired.com
nubbins`: i was expecting a photo of those titan coins
nubbins`: tat, do you suppose the pillows stuffed in his suit are functional or just there for aesthetics?
nubbins`: "i have real muscles too, see"
ThickAsThieves: not pillows, optical illusion
ThickAsThieves: the armor floats past his arm
ThickAsThieves: making it look fatter than is
nubbins`: "to... the... *grunt* mooooooon!"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 21 @ 0.00680038 = 0.1428 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: okay, gotta get to work. busy month
nubbins`: peace
asciilifeform: whenever i see 'exoskeletons,' i think back to the soviet gasoline-powered '7-league boots'.
asciilifeform: the ones that would bust your knees after a little run.
kakobrekla: url to that?
mircea_popescu: idiot bureaucrats trying to make science parks with tax breaks.
asciilifeform: this is actually a fundamental problem in 'virtual reality' machines. including a servo powerful enough to make a fist hitting a simulated 'desk' feel like table and not goo, will break your arm if the timing is a few Ms off.
mircea_popescu: graham wrote the blueprint for that, it's correct :
mircea_popescu: round up 100 uni professors, give them unlimited funds and legal immunity if they move to your park. the rest follows naturally.
thestringpuller: dr. moreau's island huh?
asciilifeform: bell labs / xerox parc.
asciilifeform: the reason why modern attempts at this are laughable is the state of the credentialling system.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, you'd need someone to do the picking of them professors
mircea_popescu: and there's nobody really.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you also need the human material to be actually available.
mircea_popescu: if you make Novi Sciencegrad much in the way of cheliabinsk except run by the scientists rather than the services,
mircea_popescu: you'll have teh human material breaking down your doors
asciilifeform: problem, as always, is with quality, not quantity.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.74498 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: but the material'd be there, "you'd need someone to do the picking"
asciilifeform: only so many ex-soviet wizards left.
mircea_popescu: these'd be mostly western guys who had it up to here with the young bitches that don't belong in the class in the first place bothering them with "sexual harassment" concerns
asciilifeform: those are a dime a dozen in paul graham's zoo. how many have so much as heard of landau & lifschitz.
mircea_popescu: there's gotta be some good stuff among them.
asciilifeform: how many have touched so much as algebra.
mircea_popescu: im firmly persuaded we just can't tell it apart because of all the nonsense.
asciilifeform: anyone who thinks that american academia is alive should look at the products of 'mit press' for the past 20 yrs.
asciilifeform: 'climate change consequences of transsexual discrimination' all the way through.
asciilifeform: the 'new books' shelf at my uni library is full of this.
truffles: how much govt assistance does MIT recieve?
asciilifeform: truffles: typical american 'public-private partnership.' (would close down overnight if not for payola.)
truffles: i thought MIT was one of the good ones..
asciilifeform: 30 yrs. ago.
asciilifeform: got lysenkoized along with the others.
truffles: thats the world we live in isnt it
asciilifeform: problem, as often is, sinecures attract time-servers.
asciilifeform: neal stephenson had the right idea with his 'math monasteries'
asciilifeform: want to diddle maths? wear a cloak, eat rice, visit the outside every decade.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.71 = 2.13 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.71 BTC [-]
jcpham: so this tradefortress guy pulled the 'ol forum web wallet scam
nubbins`: math monasteries
jcpham: that's what I'm reading on the interwebs recently
nubbins`: try to find the actual story before ruining the ending for yourself
nubbins`: it's a good read
nubbins`: neal stephenson
nubbins`: only ever read snow crash
nubbins`: not sure why he wrote an adult having sex with a 15yo girl into the plot
benkay: WHAT AMS ART LOL
asciilifeform: s is an actual original mind. each of his pieces is entirely different, like mozart's.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah, i tell you, it has to be the samurai way.
mircea_popescu: you're not good enough to be amather ? this means they can come fuck your wife any time they want and you'll serve them sake,.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: right. and don't forget to include seppuku.
mircea_popescu: and get out of their way and avert your fucking eyes.
mircea_popescu: yeah. if you fail at maths you gotta give it all up and move on to reality tv
asciilifeform: 'triple integral too heavy? here's a wakizashi. see you at noontime, bring the white sheets.'
mircea_popescu: jcpham i think he actually got raped tbh.
jcpham: oh really
jcpham: so he _may not_ have scammed
kakobrekla: why do you think that
mircea_popescu: just a hunch
jcpham: a web based wallet service is always gonna be a high value target
mircea_popescu: i don't actually have anything i can point to.
mircea_popescu: jcpham well... linode.
jcpham: losing your coin to web wallet is like the oldest trick in the book
asciilifeform: i'm still perplexed by the popularity of 'web wallets.' what do 20GB cost now? $0.20?
jcpham: it's pretty cheap
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 400 @ 0.00687267 = 2.7491 BTC [-] {6}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "peace of mind"
asciilifeform: not like you need a brain to run the blockchain
jcpham: securing and operating your own system is cheaper
asciilifeform: fiddybucks buys you a 'raspberry' or whatever the pocket computer of the day
mircea_popescu: i don;t think you two understand how "peace of mind" works.
asciilifeform: like the sea cucumber that eats its brain when it finds a place to plant?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 48 @ 0.0069001 = 0.3312 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.71 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: hah i guess so.
asciilifeform: "The juvenile sea squirt wanders through the sea searching for a suitable rock or hunk of coral to cling to and make its home for life. For this task, it has a rudimentary nervous system. When it finds its spot and takes root, it doesn’t need its brain anymore, so it eats it!"
mircea_popescu: basically, heroin is the end all be all peace of mind maker.
kakobrekla: peace of mind dissolves exponentially with the rise of stakes
mircea_popescu: nonono. that's the wrong one.
pankkake: asciilifeform: the blockchain isn't the issue anyway, you can use light clients like Electrum
mircea_popescu: peace of mind is this atonal forgetfulness thing
asciilifeform: i just don't get the 'here's my private key. please don't run off with everything' way of thinking.
mircea_popescu: because you're a mental fidgeter.
mircea_popescu: this is peace of mind.
asciilifeform: by that argument, the 'colt .45 retirement plan' would be the ultimate peace of mind...
asciilifeform: ('available from the Colt Health-Life Insurance and Retirement Savings Company!')
mircea_popescu: not really.
mircea_popescu: it's not a corpse, that's the thing. a living brain that does nothing, that's nirvana.
mircea_popescu: a dead brain that does nothing is simply banal.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 21 @ 0.007 = 0.147 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: time to roll out 'wireheading', perhaps.
asciilifeform: if anyone had the least bit of a clue re: how to make it happen, betcha it would.
mircea_popescu: what else is civilisation as misunderstood in the us all about ?
mircea_popescu: counterfeit utility all the way.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.31000001 = 0.62 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: sorta like the ant traps.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.31 = 0.93 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.29925 = 1.197 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 77 @ 0.0069014 = 0.5314 BTC [-]
nubbins`: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 355.0, Best ask: 356.195, Bid-ask spread: 1.19500, Last trade: 355.0, 24 hour volume: 48585.39568320, 24 hour low: 281.0, 24 hour high: 358.0, 24 hour vwap: 321.0482
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 77 @ 0.0069002 = 0.5313 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.74499999 = 1.49 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: remember a while ago when i was faced with the dilemma of how greedy to be?
AndrewJackson: and how did it pan out?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.748 BTC [+]
nubbins`: i wasn't quite greedy enough at the time, as it turns out
nubbins`: but, y'know.
nubbins`: eggs in many baskets, etc
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 45 @ 0.0069001 = 0.3105 BTC [-]
TAT_Investments: when is CT's first scheduled delivery?
pankkake: December, don't know when
ozbot: BitBet - Cointerra will deliver in 2013
mircea_popescu: some sort of never
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.749 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.00182 = 0.728 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.75 = 1.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1340 @ 0.00182 = 2.4388 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 52 @ 0.007 = 0.364 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 23 @ 0.007 = 0.161 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0069001 = 0.69 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 345 @ 0.00688895 = 2.3767 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 43 @ 0.00660739 = 0.2841 BTC [-] {3}
ubuntu__: http://www.spritelamp.com/ <--- Useful for S.MG ? :)
ozbot: Sprite Lamp
mircea_popescu: notrly, in that eulora is 3d
pankkake: the demos are pretty cool
firedrops: ah, nice to know. I haven't kept up on the S.MG goings on.
firedrops: it's movign along well?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.31000001 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.75 = 2.25 BTC [+]
ozbot: Chinese can now buy real estate with Bitcoin
firedrops: they should start buying US debt in bitcoin.
the20year1: We'll rent/sell real estate with BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 443 @ 0.00182 = 0.8063 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.75 = 2.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 12361 @ 0.00174964 = 21.6273 BTC [-] {17}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.71023333 = 4.2614 BTC [-] {3}
firedrops: FYI, AMAGI metals seems to be on the top of the gold for btc service pile. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170329.0
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 7 @ 0.0451 = 0.3157 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 18 @ 0.006999 = 0.126 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1616 @ 0.00182 = 2.9411 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD last: 352.445, vol: 49329.52140290 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 328.01, vol: 43353.31800723 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 306.89, vol: 23265.54347 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 300.02, vol: 793.09290584 | Volume-weighted last average: 333.935913668
mircea_popescu: firedrops well, slower than some people'd want, faster than i think is reasonable.
mircea_popescu: also "one krug" ios hardly a basis for anything.
firedrops: i see
firedrops: one krug? still lost.
mircea_popescu: krugerrand, like the most common bullion coin
firedrops: i'm only picking up a handlful of 1/10s here and there.
mircea_popescu: of insignificant value.
firedrops: significant value is relative, i'm not vetting them for investment purposes, just to increase my gold pile.
mircea_popescu: but to say x is on top of the gold service pile
mircea_popescu: this is like saying jc penny is on top of the grocery trade
mircea_popescu: because someone once bought an apple.
firedrops: ah, yes, they seems to be the most responsive, fastest turn around.
firedrops: for btc
firedrops: i mean, unless you know another? Just because it's a crap pile doesn't mean someone isn't on top..
firedrops: one service must be better than another, amagi seems to be it on the service and communication and price fronts..
mircea_popescu: gold for btc isn't a crap pile in any sense.
firedrops: so if not amagi, who then?
jcpham: why have such a hard on for metal?
firedrops: I'm casting a golden dong for when BTC goes to $10K, so I can *literally* fuck myself.
mircea_popescu: ;;google trilema pula mea
gribble: Wilcoxon tests for mean difference - Deakin University: <http://www.deakin.edu.au/buslaw/aef/workingpapers/papers/2011_6.pdf>; Bajet 2014: Anak muda jatuh, ditimpa tangga dan terhantuk kepala ...: <http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/rencana/article/bajet-2014-anak-muda-jatuh-ditimpa-tangga-dan-terhantuk-kepala-steven-sim>; The Fandom - The Fandom - Indonesia Based Music Blog: (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: bah bs google.
jcpham: bah google or bah trilema
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2010/nsfw-pula-mea/ tghere firedrops you can use that for your cast.
ozbot: NSFW - Pula mea pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
jcpham: i would read trilema but i can't afford tokens
mircea_popescu: jcpham mine moar.
jcpham: that's funny
jcpham: mining is profitable
jcpham: bigtime
mircea_popescu: shuddup and dig
KRS-1: heh
jcpham: when is trilema going to start taking litecoins for reading tokens
mircea_popescu: once bitcoin's dead and i move mpex over.
kleeck: jcpham, didn't you get the memo? "minin iz ded brah"
mircea_popescu: kleeck he wasn't around at that time yet.
kleeck: Whoa.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 52 @ 0.0069 = 0.3588 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.0451 = 0.1353 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00085462 = 6.2815 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 124 @ 0.00680639 = 0.844 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7584 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.7584 = 3.0336 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 145 @ 0.006411 = 0.9296 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.75838333 = 4.5503 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 53 @ 0.001999 = 0.1059 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00085443 = 7.3481 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 14 @ 0.04899999 = 0.686 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8714 @ 0.00085161 = 7.4209 BTC [-] {3}
ozbot: 510929738.01615 | Next Diff in 1570 blocks | Estimated Change: 3.8260% in 10d 11h 14m 0s
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 347.12412, Best ask: 347.12912, Bid-ask spread: 0.00500, Last trade: 347.12912, 24 hour volume: 43695.82926188, 24 hour low: 291.0, 24 hour high: 358.0, 24 hour vwap: 330.91894
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 991 @ 0.0001385 = 0.1373 BTC [-]
Viking_: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 349.10002, Best ask: 349.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.89997, Last trade: 349.1, 24 hour volume: 43521.73070993, 24 hour low: 291.0, 24 hour high: 358.0, 24 hour vwap: 331.55857
Viking_: ;;asks 1000
gribble: There are currently 10098.334 bitcoins offered at or under 1000.0 USD, worth 4584612.09517 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0020 seconds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 61 @ 0.00651016 = 0.3971 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.7497 = 1.4994 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 85 @ 0.0064204 = 0.5457 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: ;;nethash
gribble: 3683400.01654
ThickAsThieves: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 530357273.328 based on data since last change | 514557186.371 based on data for last three days
taub: buying the highs, selling the lows fml
ozbot: BitBet - BTC difficulty to increase by less than 10%
pankkake: given that I voted yes to the always +20% I'm not sure what to do :p
firedrops: when it doubt, spam a ref-link to the bet, profit. :)
jurov: you should have voted no as well
pankkake: pretty much
Viking_: do nothing
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12323 @ 0.00085443 = 10.5291 BTC [+] {2}
firedrops: Viking_: generally, yes.
kakobrekla: anyone from merrica with ebay account?
ThickAsThieves: probly everyone from america
jcpham: gimme a hundred bucks and i'll answer the question
Viking_: probably not
kakobrekla: well i need a ask some seller a question and it disallows me, i heard it merican accounts can do that, who will be my proxy
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.0008579 = 6.949 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.75199999 = 3.76 BTC [+] {3}
kakobrekla: pa-lease?
mgio: a seller a question where?
mgio: an american account on what?
kakobrekla: ill pm you if you can do it
Viking_: http://fiverr.com/entpress/be-your-personal-assistant-or-virtual-assistant
kakobrekla: do you suck cocks too?
Viking_: nope
kakobrekla: thats a shame
Viking_: that depends
pankkake: everyone has a price
mgio: Anybody seen ukyo around?
BingoBoingo: mgio: Checked Panama?
mgio: Is that where he lives or where he is going to run away to?
BingoBoingo: mgio: It's just an AMAZING COUNTRY
kakobrekla: thats odd, assbot is sleeping.
pankkake: or case sensitive?
kakobrekla: also still looking for merican ebay user srsly where are you when you need one
kakobrekla: pankkake i have no clue how i coded it
Ukyo: hah, not in panama
Ukyo: no intentions of going there.
Ukyo: mgio: pm
kakobrekla: audio
kakobrekla: TF speaks
kakobrekla: WILL OCKENDEN: Because you don't sound very old either?
kakobrekla: TRADEFORTRESS: Yeah, I'm quite young.
kakobrekla: WILL OCKENDEN: Are you over or under 18?
kakobrekla: TRADEFORTRESS: I'm over 18 but not much over.
pankkake: 'raises questions over regulations', cause that would stop theft!
kakobrekla: regulation is such bullshit
kakobrekla: does you nothing
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 140 @ 0.00109396 = 0.1532 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: fake feeling of safetly and a dick in ur ass
pankkake: indeed he sounds young
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.75659599 = 3.783 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00644 = 0.322 BTC [+]
pankkake: "People rob banks because that's where the money is" that's why there is no more money in bank agencies
pankkake: or you know, COLD STORAGE
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.76409799 = 15.282 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.77949 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4793 @ 0.00085889 = 4.1167 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 877 @ 0.00109396 = 0.9594 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 11 @ 0.0451 = 0.4961 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 207 @ 0.00173 = 0.3581 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 21 @ 0.00644 = 0.1352 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 76 @ 0.00642606 = 0.4884 BTC [-] {3}
Viking_: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 347.0, Best ask: 348.43999, Bid-ask spread: 1.43999, Last trade: 347.0, 24 hour volume: 41413.50635698, 24 hour low: 303.599, 24 hour high: 358.0, 24 hour vwap: 334.75322
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 151 @ 0.00199999 = 0.302 BTC [+]
clamcat: ;;market buy 20000
gribble: This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 15012.65 bitcoins, for a total of 6669756425.5690 USD and take the price to 99999999999.0000. | Data vintage: 0.0024 seconds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.00651 = 0.2279 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.779 = 5.453 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.00642001 = 0.2183 BTC [-]
the20year1: ;;market buy 100
gribble: A market order to buy 100 bitcoins right now would take 34848.1281 USD and would take the last price up to 349.9590 USD, resulting in an average price of 348.4813 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0000 seconds
the20year1: ;;market buy 1000
gribble: A market order to buy 1000 bitcoins right now would take 352456.6911 USD and would take the last price up to 355.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 352.4567 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 11.4488 seconds
the20year1: ;;market buy 5000
gribble: A market order to buy 5000 bitcoins right now would take 1816995.0042 USD and would take the last price up to 379.7100 USD, resulting in an average price of 363.3990 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 20.1907 seconds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 44 @ 0.00642001 = 0.2825 BTC [-]
benkay: ;;market --ticker --currency xau
gribble: MtGox BTCXAU ticker | Best bid: 0.276364808, Best ask: 0.276799992, Bid-ask spread: 0.00044, Last trade: 0.27679996, 24 hour volume: 42491.73711051, 24 hour low: 0.2428792, 24 hour high: 0.2864, 24 hour vwap: 0.268861104
benkay: ;;market --ticker --currency usd
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 345.45601, Best ask: 345.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.54398, Last trade: 345.4722, 24 hour volume: 42491.73711051, 24 hour low: 303.599, 24 hour high: 358.0, 24 hour vwap: 336.07638
jurov: !ticker m s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00082612 / 0.00083924 / 0.00086267 (144334 shares, 121.13 BTC), 7D: 0.00080625 / 0.00082434 / 0.00086267 (1456663 shares, 1,200.80 BTC), 30D: 0.00080585 / 0.00082926 / 0.00086267 (2498815 shares, 2,072.17 BTC)
jurov: !ticker m s.bbet
assbot: [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0006 / 0.0006 / 0.0006 (2 shares, 0.00 BTC), 30D: 0.00046 / 0.00065008 / 0.00071 (26862 shares, 17.46 BTC)
Diablo-D3: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 345.0, Best ask: 345.20159, Bid-ask spread: 0.20159, Last trade: 345.345, 24 hour volume: 42587.38891361, 24 hour low: 303.599, 24 hour high: 358.0, 24 hour vwap: 336.17782
jcpham: vroom
benkay: !ticker m s.nsa
assbot: [MPEX:S.NSA] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.000231 / 0.000231 / 0.000231 (9 shares, 0.00 BTC), 30D: 0.0001 / 0.00010008 / 0.000232 (4095584 shares, 409.90 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.000139 = 1.39 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.000139 = 1.39 BTC [+]
pankkake: ;;market sell 10000
gribble: A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 3126837.7592 USD and would take the last price down to 282.3500 USD, resulting in an average price of 312.6838 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0011 seconds
clamcat: ;;market sell 50000
gribble: A market order to sell 50000 bitcoins right now would net 11219937.2520 USD and would take the last price down to 144.9477 USD, resulting in an average price of 224.3987 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 223.1712 seconds
clamcat: ::market sell 75000
pankkake: http://thehill.com/blogs/regwatch/technology/189681-fec-to-allow-bitcoin-donations-to-political-campaigns …though the agency plans to prohibit campaigns from spending the virtual currency
ozbot: FEC to allow bitcoin donations to political campaigns | TheHill
clamcat: ;;market sell 75000
gribble: A market order to sell 75000 bitcoins right now would net 14226394.4582 USD and would take the last price down to 101.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 189.6853 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0059 seconds
clamcat: ;;market sell 100000
gribble: A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 16513815.7990 USD and would take the last price down to 80.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 165.1382 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 14.3702 seconds
clamcat: ;;market sell 125000
gribble: A market order to sell 125000 bitcoins right now would net 18107582.8099 USD and would take the last price down to 51.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 144.8607 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 60.3562 seconds
benkay: ;;gettrust clamcat
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user clamcat: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=clamcat | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=clamcat | Rated since: never
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.725 BTC [-]
benkay: almost better than a fingering
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.71779283 = 10.0491 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 20 @ 0.04897499 = 0.9795 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 3958 @ 0.00109396 = 4.3299 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7179 @ 0.000139 = 0.9979 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.7003 = 14.006 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00085299 = 3.0708 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7485 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.000139 = 1.39 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 20000 @ 0.000139 = 2.78 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 245 @ 0.00109396 = 0.268 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.31000001 = 0.62 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.327 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7485 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7485 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.748889 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [+]
canuckgal: How do I get a hold of Mr. P?
benkay: who?
canuckgal: mpoe?
canuckgal: Im looking for business advice... to create an in person exchange locally
benkay: are you unaware of localbitcoins.com?
benkay: or the less-than-epic buttonwood?
benkay: also office@polimedia.us
benkay: because you apparently can't internet
canuckgal: lol yea i know about local btc
benkay: what do you mean by "in person exchange"?
benkay: no gathering of humans right now has the volume to be anything approximating an "exchange"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 312 @ 0.00109396 = 0.3413 BTC [+]
canuckgal: i have 3 cash for gold stores, and I would like to expand into selling btc at the store too
benkay: so buy some btc and sell them
davout: isn't that the opposite of your current business model?
canuckgal: thats what i was wondering, do i buy a huge stockpile, or do i buy only when the customer wants to buy
canuckgal: we buy and sell gold, and id like to do the same with btc
thestringpuller: jhkhgkjygktkjfrkjgb'lkj
thestringpuller: [okay we're live from new york
thestringpuller: THIS IS SATURDAY NIGHT
benkay: how do you handle your gold acquisitions?
canuckgal: what do you mean
jurov: canuckgal: exactly that's trade secret of bitcoin exchanges.
jurov: either you figure out how to cope with volatiltiy yourself
jurov: or partner with whoever does
jurov: no free advice here
canuckgal: why do you gotta be like that?
benkay: is you is or is you ain't a capitalist, hon?
canuckgal: i do love me some money
benkay: ain't no such thing as a free lunch
benkay: TANSTAAFL
jurov: or hire coingeuity or whoever has a clue to explain it to you
jurov: * coingenuity
topace_: hire tradefortress for security too
topace_: he's smrt
canuckgal: and that is exactly the info im looking for, thanks
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 10 @ 0.14887999 = 1.4888 BTC [+] {3}
benkay: get in touch with vessenes
canuckgal: i have no problem paying for a consult/advice
benkay: he'll help fund it
canuckgal: ok, ill get in contact with them and see if they can help us out
benkay: good luck!
benkay: also maybe look into the web of trust
benkay: if you have time
canuckgal: yea someone told me that if im not on WOT, then i have no chance..
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 45 @ 0.00643541 = 0.2896 BTC [-] {6}
benkay: chance?
benkay: are we gambling?
canuckgal: negative
canuckgal: chance of success
benkay: you have no chance to survive make your time
canuckgal: what? make my time?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.74889 = 1.4978 BTC [+]
benkay: go zig
jurov: canuckgal: i guess we don't like people around who didn't do their homework. no hard feelings.
canuckgal: heres where you laugh, and make fun of me some more... but I have been interested in bitcoins since 2011, but I have no one IRL to talk to about the logistics
jurov: well, tinkering with the software and getting informed who is who are different things
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 290 @ 0.0010885 = 0.3157 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: jurov: you don't do your homework
thestringpuller: You were supposed to listen to some hip hop and discuss during hip hop day
thestringpuller: what happened ethere?
jurov: what? i should know canuckgal from somewhere?
canuckgal: yea, im struggling because im not a programmer, and last time I did any web design, I'm pretty sure was on Geocities
benkay: interest in bitcoins apparently has zero to do with doing research on who actually runs things.
thestringpuller: lolololol
thestringpuller: benkay runs shit
benkay: haha
benkay: icy hot?
canuckgal: surre
benkay: that gayfag?
benkay: bengay?
thestringpuller: I'M ICY HOT DEEZ NIGGAZ BENGAY
canuckgal: benkay is the new satoshi?
benkay: who gives who shits
benkay: naked woman in shower bbl
jurov: .bait
canuckgal: nice
thestringpuller: insta porn
canuckgal: would t&a help my bitcoin expansion?
jurov: yes if you join girlsgonebitcoin
jurov: not very g-g-b material but okay :)
canuckgal: i did cam4btc before
canuckgal: maybe i should do that again to raise btc for my new enterprise
pankkake: hehe. so maybe MP is the one you should talk to
canuckgal: thats what i said in the first place
jurov: benkay: you see? this is how to approach women :DDD
canuckgal: you mean, have them come in asking for advice?
pankkake: no, tell them tits or gtfo
jurov: canuckgal: did you read trilema?
thestringpuller: canuckgal isn't female
canuckgal: haha
thestringpuller: there are no females in this channel
pankkake: or the internet
thestringpuller: THUS how could canuckgal be female?
thestringpuller: le internet
pankkake: probably MtF
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 700 @ 0.00109396 = 0.7658 BTC [+]
canuckgal: yea something like that
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00698439 = 0.6984 BTC [+]
pankkake: canuckgal: anyway, office@polimedia.us was pretty much the only good advice here
jurov: and read trilema.com to mentally prepare self for the encounter
jurov: btw, isn't posting of His Email frowned upon?
jurov: in plaintext, i mean
canuckgal: is crowd funding frowned upon for stuff like this??
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 351 @ 0.00059464 = 0.2087 BTC [+] {2}
pankkake: if spambots crawl log.bitcoin-assets probably. not that you can keep something off spambots these days
jurov: here is everything frowned upon. while on bitcointalk nothing (depends on how you spin it)
pankkake: I'm sure selling bitcoin in stores is great, but if you want investors you'd have to convince people and create yourself a whole new set of problems
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00229999 = 0.23 BTC [-]
pankkake: http://pastebin.com/DVW5q0sQ this is my current list of stuff to consider
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3299999 = 0.66 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 25 @ 0.00684998 = 0.1712 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 227 @ 0.00109396 = 0.2483 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 227 @ 0.00109396 = 0.2483 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.74889 = 2.2467 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 171 @ 0.00109396 = 0.1871 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00637 = 0.1911 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.74889 = 1.4978 BTC [+]
Viking_: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 369.6, Best ask: 369.9, Bid-ask spread: 0.30000, Last trade: 369.6, 24 hour volume: 46293.64687830, 24 hour low: 313.00195, 24 hour high: 369.9, 24 hour vwap: 339.8618
benkay: frown at me bro
benkay: is this (http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/office.jpg) supposed to be an antispam measure?
benkay: email suffers from a scarcity problem
pankkake: hey, it worked in the 00's
pankkake: yeah there is no doubt spammers try office@
pankkake: they try crazy shit on my domains
benkay: however
benkay: His Email
benkay: i did lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00637 = 0.637 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00637 = 0.637 BTC [-]
benkay: does anyone in chan have an HSBC account?
benkay: i'd like to deposit some pesos in it
benkay: i keep getting interrupted opening my own
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.28010002 = 0.8403 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: first it was "omg need ur bitcoins at absurd markup"
benkay: then it was "omg need ur dick at absurd markup"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.28010002 = 1.1204 BTC [-] {3}
benkay: now it's i'm like 500 mL of brut in and can't be arsed to fuck with the hsbc signup any more tonight
benkay: :s/hsbc/any bank with a branch in buenos aires
benkay: please don't make me talk to otc :(
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00636 = 0.318 BTC [-]
benkay: on an entirely different note:
benkay: jay-z: "what you call money, i paid in taxes"
benkay: homie needs to get he some buttcorns
KRS1: Hello Bitcoin Friends
unbalanced: ...and bubblewatchers like me
ozbot: 510929738.01615 | Next Diff in 1536 blocks | Estimated Change: 2.4073% in 10d 9h 34m 34s
unbalanced: ;;prevdiffchange
gribble: 30.69637
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.69034285 = 4.8324 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.69001 = 2.07 BTC [-]
TAT_Investments: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 368.99999, Best ask: 369.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 368.99999, 24 hour volume: 45888.15624276, 24 hour low: 314.4666, 24 hour high: 369.95, 24 hour vwap: 341.98311
benkay: tat what investments are you operating these days?
dexX7: btct v2
dexX7: it will be awesome
mike_c: sr 2
benkay: y'all are assholes
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1220 @ 0.0008502 = 1.0372 BTC [-]
TAT_Investments: was working on something
TAT_Investments: right now it's XBOND, AM1, AM100, NEOBEE, and SMG
TAT_Investments: SMG is a PT
TAT_Investments: on Havelock
benkay: duh-hoy
benkay: minigame is the pass-thru you decided to go with?
TAT_Investments: it was the bees knees of course
benkay: duh-herp
TAT_Investments: i like it
TAT_Investments: maybe an NSA one someday, or an MPEx basket
benkay: where's the mpoe pt
TAT_Investments: Nam ran it
TAT_Investments: he closed
TAT_Investments: DT had one
benkay: dexX7: 47-yo grandfather
TAT_Investments: very low volume for both
benkay: so many bad decisions
benkay: you expect havelock investors to grok gpg?
TAT_Investments: there are some smart people not on mpex, gasp
TAT_Investments: but i did say maybe
benkay: smart == has btc
TAT_Investments: now's not the time
benkay: smart investors can get isk onto mpex without pts
TAT_Investments: PTs are not a major concern atm
benkay: shit
benkay: criteria for "smart" could even be "can invest on mpex"
benkay: but wtf do i knwo
TAT_Investments: we better get to the bottom of this, it's extremely important
benkay: amazing important!
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
kakobrekla: ok so apparently you can get 27" IPS monitors for less than a bitcoin with same panel as mac retina bullshit
kakobrekla: amazing
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
TAT_Investments: link plz
kakobrekla: there a sea of them
TAT_Investments: i dont sea it
benkay: what do you mean same panel
benkay: same pixel density?
TAT_Investments: same pnel
ozbot: Achieva Shimian QH2700 Ipsms Edge Eco 27" LED 2560x1440 AH IPS DVI PC Monitor | eBay
ozbot: Coding Horror: The IPS LCD Revolution
kakobrekla: im buyin.
Azelphur: we're talking 1440p monitors?
Azelphur: I imported 4 of the korean ones, if you wanna ask me questions
kakobrekla: yeah korean 27"
Apocalyptic: Azelphur, are they good ?
Azelphur: Apocalyptic: hellz yes.
Azelphur: my only regret is that these ones are glossy, you can get matte ones now, although you couldn't when I bought mine.
kakobrekla: o yeah im lookin at matte
ozbot: New 27" Qnix QX2710 Evolution ll 2560x1440 QHD PLS Panel Monitor Matte Screen | eBay
kakobrekla: sub 1btc lcd
kakobrekla: cheapo
Azelphur: kakobrekla: that's the same guy I got mine off, highly recommend him :)
Azelphur: he cut me a deal when I bought
kakobrekla: o cool
kakobrekla: might use him
Azelphur: and was cool about marking them as a gift so I wouldn't get pwned by customs
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00084925 = 5.6051 BTC [-]
Azelphur: kakobrekla: if you're worried about dead pixel, I highly recommend going for a perfect pixel one from him
Azelphur: they cost more, but the non-perfect pixel ones are generally from the perfect pixel reject pile
Azelphur: ie: you stand a very high chance of at least one dead pixel
kakobrekla: aha so he sorts them
kakobrekla: bastard.
Azelphur: I believe so, yea
Azelphur: I have heard of people getting ones without dead pixels
Azelphur: But I did a little count of forum posts when I was ordering mine, and it worked out at something like 60% of them having at least one dead pixel
kakobrekla: is like 50$ moar
Azelphur: for $50, prolly not worth the up to 5 dead pixels on the one you're looking at
benkay: ;;calc 1/(2560*1440)
gribble: 2.71267361111e-07
Azelphur: all 4 of mine were perfect pixel, and all 4 of mine have been running for over a year now and still have no dead pixels
benkay: ;;calc 5/(2560*1440)
gribble: 1.35633680556e-06
Azelphur: so, does what it says on the tin in theory, I'm not a bad sample size haha
benkay: gosh
benkay: sounds like a rounding error to me
Azelphur: It's extra amusing, because I actually sold my old 26" 1200p monitors for most of what it cost me to get the new ones
Azelphur: yay for inflated prices in UK \o/
mike_c: that office is amazing. love the beach view.
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
Azelphur: mike_c: ty :)
Azelphur: Amazing what £700 gets you in the south of England haha
mike_c: wow, nice.
kakobrekla: like 100 btc not to long ago!
benkay: fuck if im gonna spend btc on silicon
Azelphur: BTC is actually paying my expenses atm, since I'm unemployed XD
benkay: burn dat principal
Azelphur: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bwuurm0td9audxf/HZ2poq8SuP is the rest of the flat, and better pictures of the views :D
ozbot: Dropbox - newflat
benkay: england
benkay: on one hand, chavs
benkay: on the other hand, not america
Azelphur: benkay: hehe, chavs are more north tbh, around here it's mostly stoners.
benkay: o hey you can almost get usable code out of stoners
kakobrekla: ;;ud chav
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chav | Picture this a young lad about 12 years of age and 4 ½ feet high baseball cap at ninety degrees in a imitation addidas tracksuit, with trouser legs...
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: chav
Azelphur: benkay: lots of foreigners too, unemployment in my area is up in the 90%'s iirc
benkay: imitation adidas
benkay: "hey we can't afford to make cheap shit so we'll make even cheaper shit. u want some, idiots?"
Azelphur: that's pretty much it.
Azelphur: kakobrekla: honestly, they are freakin everywhere back where I used to live
benkay: the great british empire
benkay: be proud, Azelphur
Azelphur: at least we have some good stuff.
benkay: fuck off
benkay: don't be rude to me
benkay: we have mcdonald's, alright?
benkay: we MADE mcdonald's, alright?
Azelphur: benkay: Canonical, Django?
benkay: ca-wut?
Azelphur: benkay: the company that made Ubuntu
benkay: you made some jump of logic that i'm just not smart enough to follow
benkay: what do Canonical and a shitty Python framework have to do with chavs?
benkay: sorry it's not shitty
benkay: it's just a goddamn ufo
benkay: ping Azelphur
Azelphur: benkay: you was saying we made mcdonalds, and sorta implying we had nothing good :P
Azelphur: was just pointing out some good things, xD
benkay: oh oh!
benkay: I was being ironic
benkay: america made mc'ds
Azelphur: lol, true
the20year2: ;;sell market 7500
gribble: Error: 'market' is not a valid positive floating point number.
the20year2: ;;sell 7500
gribble: (sell <amount> <thing> [at|@] <priceperunit> <otherthing> [<notes>]) -- Logs a sell order for <amount> units of <thing, at a price of <price> per unit, in units of <otherthing>. Use the optional <notes> field to put in any special notes. <price> may include an arithmetical expression, and {(mtgox|bitstamp)(ask|bid|last|high|low|avg)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, last, high, low, (1 more message)
benkay: bad joke about an american talking shit to a british person and claiming the worst products of america as evidence of our superiority
Azelphur: ah, hehe
benkay: but at least we never had a globe-spanning empire that lost its way and degraded into barely-disguised communism
benkay: (again, a dig at america)
the20year2: Are you talking about the UK or US?
Azelphur: indeed :P
benkay: not that it doesn't apply to the UK
kakobrekla: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 374.99998, Best ask: 374.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 374.94997, 24 hour volume: 45844.77635217, 24 hour low: 315.10501, 24 hour high: 375.0, 24 hour vwap: 344.62703
benkay: jesus
kakobrekla: not even breaking a sweat
Apocalyptic: china is at 410 when converted to USD
Apocalyptic: well 417 now
Apocalyptic: insane
Azelphur: blimey
the20year2: Crazy
the20year2: It's a new paradigm!
kakobrekla: aw shutup
benkay: derp-a-dime
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00620001 = 0.186 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.0062 = 0.186 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5139 @ 0.00084822 = 4.359 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 128 @ 0.00601001 = 0.7693 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 110 @ 0.00601002 = 0.6611 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4200 @ 0.00010908 = 0.4581 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 118 @ 0.00649617 = 0.7665 BTC [+] {4}
Vexual: what is this, the begginning of some undeniable critical mass?
Vexual: have i sent my last transaction with no fee?
Vexual: childrens next birthday card from grandparents doesn't open with a flutter of falling banknotes but a shakily scripted privkey?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 8186 @ 0.00010105 = 0.8272 BTC [-] {7}
gribble: Error: "tiker" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 362.80001, Best ask: 365.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.19999, Last trade: 363.3847, 24 hour volume: 49159.67457384, 24 hour low: 318.98, 24 hour high: 377.9756, 24 hour vwap: 347.29826
Vexual: g'day my popescue
Vexual: *mr
Vexual: how goes it?
mircea_popescu: not so bad actually
Vexual: i'd expect no less
Vexual: looks to me like bitcoin might go email within a year or two
Vexual: hello nubbins
nubbins`: ...hi
Vexual: howzit?
nubbins`: oh, great
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9411 @ 0.00084711 = 7.9722 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: i spent a few days on the islands and come back to see bitcoin getting some real traction
nubbins`: yeah
nubbins`: gold is tanking in relation to btc
nubbins`: usd too
mircea_popescu: the world is this small spot way bnehind...
Vexual: huh?
Vexual: he internet is one gerneration old and we already have the money
benkay: hey nubbins check this out
benkay: ;;ticker --currency xau
gribble: MtGox BTCXAU ticker | Best bid: 0.293600032, Best ask: 0.296248344, Bid-ask spread: 0.00265, Last trade: 0.293600024, 24 hour volume: 49365.67596412, 24 hour low: 0.255184, 24 hour high: 0.30238048, 24 hour vwap: 0.27807188
Vexual: ounce parity soon
mircea_popescu: well maybe not that soon
benkay: would that be the next psychological barrier?
benkay: or something like a whole shitbuck?
Vexual: jakarta bullock parity
nubbins`: oh, cool
nubbins`: yeah, gold maple leafs are around 4 BTC right now
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00662719 = 0.3314 BTC [+]
Vexual: psychology regarding round numbers might just go out the window soon
benkay: there are a few more round numbers to crush
Vexual: i certainly dont let them influence me'
Vexual: im aware, but i think after 100, it's not so much of a thing
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00662719 = 0.1657 BTC [+]
benkay: oom
benkay: 10
benkay: 100
benkay: 1000
benkay: 10000
Vexual: 100 has a special power on people
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 29 @ 0.00662719 = 0.1922 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: i'd extend that to parity with things
benkay: btc=usd
benkay: btc=xau
benkay: although that'll only matter to goldbugs
bloctoc: the next paychological barrier is when fed stops QE
Vexual: lol
bloctoc: glad someone laughed at that one.
Vexual: i chuckled, that counts
bloctoc: I'm looking for a link to m1 money supply by currency
Vexual: id guess theus fed might try to ride it with a fed backed exchange
bloctoc: I think you're talking about ripple
Vexual: let some of them big boys fuck try to it in the anus like gold, and fail
Vexual: you'd hurt your dick trying some of those old jail games on bitcoin
bloctoc: you lost me
benkay: dat vagina dentata
benkay: so sweet when you play her right
benkay: so vicious when you denominate debts in crypto
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.0454 = 0.1362 BTC [-]
Vexual: what did forbes say lately? ghash.io could hold back a block and get the next one?
Vexual: the backdoor is tighter than an eritrean princess
mircea_popescu: <bloctoc> the next paychological barrier is when fed stops QE << word.
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