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pankkake: so these SSWs are neat indeed, better than the usual "I'm giving myself x% shares"
pankkake: or not so locked shares à la lolcoin
mircea_popescu: yeah, the ssw is the correct handle for this class of problems
mircea_popescu: now to get everyone with a clue to read up on them, leaving only the scammers doing the scummy stuff, a la lolcoin/vircurex/etc
pankkake: somehow I never thought of that, only a time-based issuance of shares
pankkake: well, you should write about it ;)
mircea_popescu: well there's the advantage of knowledge: you don't have to invent shit, you just know what the shit is.
pankkake: unless it's done already
mircea_popescu: and yeah, ima write it up for teh benefit of the general public.
ozbot: Limo Firm Hacked; Politician, Celeb Data Breached : NPR
pankkake: "The only point of access to the servers is through our firewall" lol
mircea_popescu: yeah. while they run macromedia.
pankkake: "it underscores the need for improving the regulatory framework" what would that change :|
mircea_popescu: nothing, except all these freelancers could get govt jobs
mircea_popescu: most plebs aspire to bureaucracy.
pankkake: in France we often have pools where more than half of young people who want to become gov employees :/
pankkake: polls
pankkake: KRS1 ew
pankkake: what's more disgusting, the body or the hashtag overuse, I can't decide
Apocalyptic: pankkake, given the several advantages it's not surprising
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7893 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.38899999 = 1.945 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 444 @ 0.00109498 = 0.4862 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 231.76190, Best ask: 234.99997, Bid-ask spread: 3.23807, Last trade: 234.99997, 24 hour volume: 21424.89353707, 24 hour low: 222.00000, 24 hour high: 242.00000, 24 hour vwap: 233.34558
arij: ;;ticker --last
gribble: 231.76189
dub: ;;nethash
gribble: 3955203.05372
pankkake: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 268027 | Current Difficulty: 3.9092878763808584E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 268127 | Next Difficulty In: 100 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 12 hours, 33 minutes, and 55 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 512134543.922 | Estimated Percent Change: 31.00456
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 95 @ 0.00673 = 0.6394 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 93 @ 0.002749 = 0.2557 BTC [-]
af33: Why ¨Trilema¨? What does that Name mean?
mircea_popescu: af33 it's just a name.
af33: (sorry, quotation marks arent working)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 750 @ 0.00251001 = 1.8825 BTC [-] {2}
af33: just a name..
af33: okay.
Jere_Jones: I always thought of it as a play on dilemma. But instead of two (di) sides, there are three (tri).
af33: I think thats what the word means.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 62 @ 0.00250129 = 0.1551 BTC [-] {2}
Jere_Jones: I didn't even realize it was an actual word. :)
mircea_popescu: Jere_Jones it's basically what it was, back in 2008 when i started it.
mircea_popescu: trilemma is spelled trilema in romanian
af33: ^___^
joecool: the internet needs more romanians
joecool: mircea_popescu: not a romanian
mircea_popescu: dub hey you probably remember this, it was solidcoin that did the entire "unspendable 1mn coins" supernode thing right ?
mircea_popescu: im not mixing my altcoin scams here
joecool: that was solidcoin
ozbot: Solidcoin Spending trusted Nodes
mircea_popescu: ah what delicious drama that was back in the day
mircea_popescu: and by "back in the day" we mean like... last year.
joecool: true, there will be no drama to come
joecool: there always is
joecool: bitcoin and friends never ceases to disappoint :)
joecool: s/no/new
mircea_popescu: lol. son, i am very dissapoint in your lack of dissapoint
joecool: Luke-Jr is a good source of drama
joecool: Luke-Jr: put more prayers in the blockchain :)
af33: anyone have a ¨best guess¨ for how long before we have a functional colored-coin system?
mircea_popescu: af33 about two weeks.
af33: ken from activemining is supposedly working on one. ive heard of others.
af33: why do you say that mp?
mircea_popescu: because people have been working on it for longer than bfl has been working on miners.
af33: hmm
joecool: colored-coin? will it be separate but equal?
ozbot: Why I nixed p2p, colored coins and all that jazz pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: this for instance is a year old by now.
af33: whatś stopping ActiveMining from trading on MPEX?
af33: would you accept them?
mircea_popescu: which one is this ?
af33: ??
mircea_popescu: well for instance they're not trading because they don't have a contract,
mircea_popescu: the guy doesn't exist in the wot,
mircea_popescu: they don't follow proper an0 reporting
mircea_popescu: and on and on.
af33: what is wot?
Apocalyptic: Web of trust
mircea_popescu: ;;getrating af33
Apocalyptic: ;;gettrust af33
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user Apocalyptic to user af33: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=Apocalyptic&dest=af33 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=af33 | Rated since: never
joecool: ;;gettrust Apocalyptic
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask Apocalyptic!~Apocalypt@unaffiliated/apocalyptic. Trust relationship from user joecool to user Apocalyptic: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=joecool&dest=Apocalyptic | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Apocalyptic | Rated since: Mon Jul 15 09:32:50 2013
dexX7: mircea_popescu: http://axs.net/AMC/PPM/AM1.pdf does this count?
mircea_popescu: no pdf counts. what should it count as ?
af33: mp, would you be willing to discuss it with ken if he were interested in listing on MPEX?
af33: or would it even matter? would the SEC be after MPEX next?
af33: i don understand whatś different about it.
mircea_popescu: well few do.
af33: oooo
mircea_popescu: anyway, ken is welcome to get into the wot, like anyone else,
mircea_popescu: spend a while building positive trust, like anyone else,
mircea_popescu: then start something small. like anyone else.
mircea_popescu: of course this is moot, as this particular shit he;'s involved in will sink him
mircea_popescu: but theoretically speaking.
af33: you mean mining farms in general?
af33: or what
mircea_popescu: i mean his particular ill baked asicminer clone,
mircea_popescu: which, if memory serves, is way way late on delivering anything
dexX7: would you say the same to friedcat?
mircea_popescu: no. but he'd still have to sign a contract.
af33: what kind of contract?
mircea_popescu: dexX7 http://trilema.com/2013/the-analysis-of-a-failure-asicminer/ that's the discussion of that if you're curious.
mircea_popescu: af33 http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.NSA since i had this in a tab.
dexX7: yea pr posted this recently
af33: okay so what about SEC and closing of bitfunder, et al
dexX7: but thanks, nevertheless apprechiated
af33: ?
af33: can that happen to MPEX? whatś the difference?
mircea_popescu: well, apparently it hasn't, which is all you got to go on.
mircea_popescu: this time i eschewed rubbing it in like last time (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115693.0)
af33: ¨Bitcoin is here to end government. Not any particular one, just absolutely each and every last one of them. To work!¨
af33: okay..
af33: ányways, iḿ still not sure what you mean.
mircea_popescu: i think this will eventually be a club.
af33: this?
mircea_popescu: "the gentlemen who aren't sure wtf mp is on about" 177 Queens Avenue, London, ON N6A 1J1
af33: lol
af33: i don know where bitfunder or btct were located and iḿ not sure if location was really the determing facter.
af33: factor
mircea_popescu: in unrelated news, my rosemary bush is STILL in bloom.
mircea_popescu: this thing rocks.
af33: nobodyś interested.
af33: sorry..
af33: ;)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00081345 = 3.0911 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 165 @ 0.00640606 = 1.057 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7564 @ 0.00081097 = 6.1342 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 46 @ 0.05300011 = 2.438 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1549 @ 0.00109498 = 1.6961 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1000 @ 0.00109797 = 1.098 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 170 @ 0.00249999 = 0.425 BTC [-]
af33: does the web of trust thing work across channels?
af33: as long as i have the same name...?
af33: okay nevermind, i get it.
af33: just read the link you sent ;)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00249999 = 0.125 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.72010001 = 2.8804 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 114 @ 0.0067301 = 0.7672 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 600 @ 0.00249999 = 1.5 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 53 @ 0.0067301 = 0.3567 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.0067301 = 0.2221 BTC [+]
mod6: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 268047 | Current Difficulty: 3.9092878763808584E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 268127 | Next Difficulty In: 80 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 10 hours, 22 minutes, and 42 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 512339627.807 | Estimated Percent Change: 31.05702
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.72010001 BTC [-]
mod6: ;;nethash
gribble: 3922587.62011
bitesak: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 237.95174, Best ask: 238.99994, Bid-ask spread: 1.04820, Last trade: 238.99995, 24 hour volume: 22664.17039360, 24 hour low: 222.00000, 24 hour high: 242.00000, 24 hour vwap: 233.76319
b0n1: so the vulnerability paper published on arxiv nearly had any impact on the price it seems
b0n1: although its not a real threat buti had expected at least some panicking
pankkake: especially since the media is very happy to blow it out of proportion
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.00624807 = 0.1624 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4335 @ 0.00081086 = 3.5151 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1756 @ 0.00108655 = 1.908 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 15 @ 0.12268 = 1.8402 BTC [+] {2}
KRS1: fontase
ozbot: WSJ: Bitcoin Firm Files for Bankruptcy (Alydian Inc., a unit of CoinLab Inc.) : Bitcoin
ThickAsThieves: thats Vessenes mining co
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 508 @ 0.0025 = 1.27 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00081461 = 7.9017 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2501 @ 0.00081081 = 2.0278 BTC [-]
jurov: "We’ve combined proven leadership, visionary strategy and great technologists. It’s going to be a great ride!”
jurov: should totally adopt the alydian motto
pankkake: enterprise-scale mining! turnkey mining systems in… August!
pankkake: perhaps turkey mining systems
Apocalyptic: heh jurov
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 16 @ 0.33915687 = 5.4265 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3461 @ 0.0008088 = 2.7993 BTC [-] {2}
ozbot: [BTC-TC] Virtual Community Exchange [WINDING DOWN]
jurov: stuff some people invent...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share
Lennix1: is there already a bitbet that ukyo will run with bfs and weex coins?
jurov: i deem that unlikely... more likely there will be trouble with Ukyo.Loan
truffles: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 245.39996, Best ask: 245.60000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20004, Last trade: 246.00000, 24 hour volume: 24894.40638794, 24 hour low: 226.00000, 24 hour high: 248.50000, 24 hour vwap: 236.32393
Lennix1: isn't that the fun with a bet?
jurov: so place one, then
truffles: gambling is about the adrenaline rush though
jurov: or is hould? and what would be the deadline?
jurov: problem it could be rejected, it's hard to prove everyone got paid, only asset lists are public, not btc balances
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.72100001 = 8.652 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.71233999 = 9.2604 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.710026 = 7.1003 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.71000018 = 12.07 BTC [-] {4}
kakobrekla: jurov i doubt he is joking
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 147 @ 0.00108514 = 0.1595 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4999 @ 0.0002199 = 1.0993 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.0062 = 0.124 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4589 @ 0.00080808 = 3.7083 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8161 @ 0.00081093 = 6.618 BTC [+] {2}
kakobrekla: my morning poetry:
kakobrekla: Go ahead,
kakobrekla: shill for theymos,
kakobrekla: shill for garr,
kakobrekla: a bunch of scammers,
kakobrekla: is what you are.
kakobrekla: ~kako
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00591002 = 0.2955 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: is that your superhero theme song?
truffles: almost rhymed
ThickAsThieves: said just before bolting into the sky to seek bad CSS?
kakobrekla: it does ryhme
kakobrekla: somewhat
truffles: sure if child like rants are what ure into
kakobrekla: well yeah, else imma gonna have to have to explain it to you
truffles: i require explainations, go ahead
kakobrekla: i thought i t was childish enough for ya?
kakobrekla: anywho brb, coffee
jurov: or should it be ex-shareholders? rather not
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 54 @ 0.00591 = 0.3191 BTC [-] {2}
kakobrekla: Deer holders by now.
truffles: coffee , u should try tea
kakobrekla: u should try coffee enema
truffles: sounds like a drug
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 49 @ 0.00591 = 0.2896 BTC [-]
truffles: drugs are bad umk
kakobrekla: apparently there are people on jewtube addicted to it
truffles: jew like the religion?
truffles: its real lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 300 @ 0.00108515 = 0.3255 BTC [+]
truffles: lou reed i feel bad for that guy, going out with table..
bitesak: ThickAsThieves: did you have a google doc up with a view of btc holdings you hold or am I mistaken?
truffles: urbandictionary is not kind to jewtube..
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.0059099 = 0.2955 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: bitesak, I have not, with the exchanges closing it complicated things a fair amount.
ThickAsThieves: our public btc address does show we hold more coins there than we owe for XBOND though
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.1497 BTC [+]
ozbot: [BitFunder] Mining difficulty futures now available: CoinBr.iDiff-*
bitesak: thanks, was curious. I see that coinlenders.com is not operational either. Seems I have missed a few developments
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 24 @ 0.0059099 = 0.1418 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 122 @ 0.0059098 = 0.721 BTC [-] {2}
firedrops: kakobrekla, when does your bitcoin poetry book come out?
truffles: so many buyers already
jurov: it just came out.. to be beholden forever in #assets log
firedrops: poor revenue model..
bitesak: but huge value
firedrops: infinite value
jurov: precious like a bitcoin gem
bitesak: it it might end up on the most awesome bitcoin startup list, there most definetly is room now: http://bitcoinexaminer.org/14-awesome-bitcoin-startups/
jurov: read tfa... the criteria is not just to be awesome, but also amazing. and that kako is not.
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
jurov: lmao laydian listed
truffles: its amazing isnt it
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
jurov: and BFL!
jurov: and Tradehill!!
truffles: <firedrops> infinite value >>> u must be the ppl who tell mp that he's great writer
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 377 @ 0.002719 = 1.0251 BTC [+]
bitesak: kakos poetry has a revenue model more resilient than most on that list
firedrops: it's a cringeworthy list.
firedrops: skinnyjav is over in #linux trying to get them to hand-hold him through putting ISO on usb.... very sad.
firedrops: refuses to google it
firedrops: poor guy
truffles: valiant effort for the non native english speakers though
bitesak: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 245.00002, Best ask: 245.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.39998, Last trade: 245.00000, 24 hour volume: 25250.86051138, 24 hour low: 226.50001, 24 hour high: 248.59999, 24 hour vwap: 236.76818
firedrops: oh tits
truffles: lol tits?
firedrops: tits, as an expression of joy.
truffles: like tits up?
firedrops: don't think too hard about tits, they're not for thinking.
truffles: its just an odd exclaimation hehe
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.700001 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: oh wow poetry book
kakobrekla: i need to work on my material moar
truffles: make it amazing
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
kakobrekla: thats not an easy undertaking
truffles: u have ur work cut out for u i can see
truffles: but its amazing what hard work can do
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
kakobrekla: i know rite
truffles: u could be the bieber of poetry
kakobrekla: the bieber means the most hated guy or what
truffles: he seems to get the girls
truffles: did u know some guy paid 100k to look like bieber
nubbins`: some guys pay money to have women stomp their nuts
nubbins`: doesn't mean it makes sense
truffles: fetish is understandable though
nubbins`: guy has a bieber fetish
ozbot: Justin Bieber Fan Spends $100K on Plastic Surgery to Look Like the Singer | Billboard
truffles: he kinda looked like matt dameon before.. shame
truffles: "My friends shower me with compliments," he says. "They even call me Toby Bieber."
nubbins`: ahahahahahahaha
nubbins`: s/compliments/piss
kakobrekla: the guy in the after photo looks like he lacked oxygen at birth
truffles: im almost always honest when asked for my opinion
truffles: id be a great friend kako
truffles: with the poetry
kakobrekla: im not looking for opinions
truffles: your loss
nubbins`: free verse is where it's at anyway
truffles: speak it in french would make it 100x better imo
truffles: mjr knows how to write well, he can give pointers
truffles: about what
nubbins`: you be the judge, it's free verse
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
truffles: i am the table
truffles: did not like
nubbins`: no accounting for taste
truffles: its not internet forum.. or chatroom should follow grammar rules at least
truffles: anyways gotta tend to some stuff be back later
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 39 @ 0.0059099 = 0.2305 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.05889999 = 0.2945 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00109797 = 0.1098 BTC [+]
ozbot: Gox | Buy: $247.01 Sell: $247.30 Last: $247.01 High: $248.84 Low: $227.61
ozbot: Bitstamp | Buy: $243.76
ozbot: Coinbase | Buy: $251.10
ozbot: Weex | Buy: $66.00 Sell: $156.00 Last: $156.00
ThickAsThieves: running out of coins or something?
kakobrekla: lul at weex?
Ukyo: ?
Lennix1: why is it even listed?
firedrops: Coinbase is running, reports of delayed purchases.
firedrops: running out*
ThickAsThieves: cuz it's ozbot
firedrops: by several days
nubbins`: virtex only at 238!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 98 @ 0.0058999 = 0.5782 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 445 @ 0.00590954 = 2.6297 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 82 @ 0.0026 = 0.2132 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 218 @ 0.0026 = 0.5668 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: running out of coins or something? << yeah, teh alleged foundation is running out of suckers to donate.
mircea_popescu: consequently, teh alleged entrepreneurs are running out of juice.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves:
mircea_popescu: thats Vessenes mining co << http://trilema.com/2013/recapitulatio/ we are keenly aware >D
mircea_popescu: pankkake yet apparently nobody asked "the media" anything.
nubbins`: what's a more official-sounding word than foundation?
ThickAsThieves: society?
gribble: Error: "Sons" is not a valid command.
nubbins`: The Bitcoin Authority
nubbins`: get a fancy logo and some talking heads,
mircea_popescu: The Official National Bitcoin Authority.
mircea_popescu: or agency. agency is also good.
ThickAsThieves: Bitcoin Regulation Organization
nubbins`: ooh, i like that
nubbins`: y'know, this could be pulled off quite easily
firedrops: lol, nice ending mircea_popescu
ThickAsThieves: well yeah look at the existing one
mircea_popescu: the bro, wow!
nubbins`: tat, right?!
mircea_popescu: i tell you, it's the mansiere
mircea_popescu: firedrops why ty.
nubbins`: the IBA
nubbins`: international bitcoin authority!
nubbins`: and just issue press releases taking digs at the foundation and its policies
nubbins`: or w/e they have
mircea_popescu: issue press releases harping about how you're working to implement coincare
mircea_popescu: and green coins.
mircea_popescu: and fight coin warming.
mircea_popescu: i mean, coinchange.
ThickAsThieves: make sure every human has a bitcoin wallet
ThickAsThieves: it's a human right
firedrops: this is too good *NOT* to do. IBA.... Can I be the treasurer?
firedrops: I need a new office.
mircea_popescu: only if you promise to never publish the financial statements
firedrops: what's a 'financial statement' ?
mircea_popescu: which, incidentally, the vehehehes poser STILL hasn't done
nubbins`: as you can see, the bar would be set pretty low
mircea_popescu: he's the chair and treasurer of an organisation taking donations from the public which still, to this day, has not published its statements. years later.
mircea_popescu: if this is what american know-how and business experience looks like i'd rather work with nigerians.
nubbins`: first act of IBA would be to condemn these wanton actions
KRS-1: ruh roh
nubbins`: second would be to publish its own statements
mircea_popescu: and make sure nothing adds up
imsaguy: [\\\] for president.
mircea_popescu: and there are like... random letters in the middle of numbers
abracadabra: you can't vote for yourself!
mircea_popescu: it's not himself, it's his other self. this is sam.
firedrops: I promise to execute of my duties of non-disclosure and general misdirection with gusto.
firedrops: I also promise to use stored funds only to promote bitcoin where those areas also overlaps my personal needs.
firedrops: so, I'm hired, right?
mircea_popescu: sure, go ahead. make your own irc chan too
mircea_popescu: #bitcoin-gemdation
imsaguy: #bitcoin-[\\\]
imsaguy: I didn't vote for myself
imsaguy: that was a nomination
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.35 = 1.75 BTC [+]
Ukyo: I vote for imsaguy. *back to work*
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.00634216 = 0.6659 BTC [+] {6}
kakobrekla: anyway whats with the weex ticker
kakobrekla: is that hing even operational still
ozbot: Gox | Buy: $246.00 Sell: $246.00 Last: $246.00 High: $250.00 Low: $227.61
ozbot: Bitstamp | Buy: $243.00
ozbot: Coinbase | Buy: $250.28
ozbot: Weex | Buy: $66.00 Sell: $156.00 Last: $156.00
firedrops: oops, weex has it's own now.. forgots.
mircea_popescu: maybe just not much volume
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 16 @ 0.00639 = 0.1022 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 4000 @ 0.00109796 = 4.3918 BTC [-] {2}
truffles: <nubbins`> international bitcoin authority! >>> i like this one
truffles: though i thought bitcoin was supposed to be anonymous
nubbins`: why did you think that?
truffles: great effort was made for the purpose no?
truffles: at least it seemed so
truffles: no im not talking about the "group"
firedrops: anonymity has been and always will be a factor of how you interact with your wallet and online identities.
truffles: if some1 wants to find u though seems like they can
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12522 @ 0.00081164 = 10.1634 BTC [+]
jurov: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 268100 | Current Difficulty: 3.9092878763808584E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 268127 | Next Difficulty In: 27 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 hours, 44 minutes, and 44 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 511206266.867 | Estimated Percent Change: 30.76711
jurov: dunno what happens when the bitches trry to pull this to mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: teh bitches love me too much.
firedrops: well, I doubt they much in terms of striking funds... they will get hungry... for cock.
firedrops: *have
mike_c: gee, i remember just 4 days ago having a conversation about whether we'd hit 230 this month..
mircea_popescu: you know, your average columbian streetwalker is much more fiscally conservative and economically minded than the us government.
mircea_popescu: they'll be fine.
imsaguy: mircea_popescu: #inbefore400
ozbot: Gox | Buy: $247.11 Sell: $247.79 Last: $247.11 High: $250.00 Low: $227.61
ozbot: Bitstamp | Buy: $243.36
ozbot: Coinbase | Buy: $251.39
ozbot: Weex | Buy: $66.00 Sell: $156.00 Last: $156.00
firedrops: Maybe columbian whores should run the IBA?
mircea_popescu: "Bonett began extolling the antiwar message of Lysistrata, Aristophanes’ historical play in which the title character convinces her female colleagues to refuse to have sex with their husbands until they ended the Pelopennesian War between Athens and Sparta."
mircea_popescu: this is such fucking ridiculous ignorance.
mircea_popescu: for one thing, greek men could hardly be paid to fuck women.
mircea_popescu: for the other, obviously aristophanes is a comedy writer, not a "historical play" writer.
firedrops: for reals, weren't there plenty of young boys to enjoy?
mircea_popescu: certainly in sparta, and certainly for the needs of their army.
mircea_popescu: to consider today somebody is seriously proposing that a bunch of despised housewives stopped the army of lovers from armying and loving through refusing to bother them anymore...
firedrops: it's fucking absurd.
mircea_popescu: the us schooling system.
mircea_popescu: it'd be better if they raped the children 8 hours a day.
mircea_popescu: at least that way somebody somewhere'd get something out of it.
firedrops: they would learn more.
lewicki: holy moly, buys on mtgox
zoinky: whoa
zoinky: 4k buy
kakobrekla: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 255.00000, Best ask: 255.00001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 255.00001, 24 hour volume: 28152.16157390, 24 hour low: 228.11000, 24 hour high: 257.59493, 24 hour vwap: 242.03555
kakobrekla: when did the clock move
kleeck: .d
ozbot: 390928787.63809 | Next Diff in 23 blocks | Estimated Change: 30.6327% in 0d 2h 35m 1s
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 71 @ 0.0064 = 0.4544 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.05350001 = 0.2675 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 600 @ 0.001097 = 0.6582 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3293 @ 0.00081483 = 2.6832 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 102 @ 0.05350001 = 5.457 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 195 @ 0.00603024 = 1.1759 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.006007 = 0.3604 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1000 @ 0.001097 = 1.097 BTC [-]
jurov: ;;seens Scrat
gribble: Error: "seens" is not a valid command.
jurov: ;;seen Scrat
gribble: Scrat was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 21 hours, 7 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <Scrat> ;;ident
benkay: it's even better than i ever imagined
benkay: i can get ars delivered to my door for btc
Scrat: ;;seen jurov
gribble: jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 minutes and 52 seconds ago: <jurov> ;;seen Scrat
firedrops: you can get arse deliver to your door for btc?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00081533 = 9.3763 BTC [+] {3}
nubbins`: lovely! show booked, acts confirmed
nubbins`: next step: posters
ozbot: Gox | Buy: $255.00 Sell: $256.11 Last: $254.15 High: $258.88 Low: $229.00
ozbot: Bitstamp | Buy: $248.00
ozbot: Coinbase | Buy: $255.71
ozbot: Weex | Buy: $66.00 Sell: $156.00 Last: $156.00
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 150 @ 0.001097 = 0.1646 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: basically this .r thing spams four lines of shit that mostly doesn't work.
mircea_popescu: in this sense ticker is better
nubbins`: the fuck is weex
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14226 @ 0.00081674 = 11.6189 BTC [+] {3}
Duffer1: weexchange, ukyo's btc/fiat exchange thing
nubbins`: funny, that's the reason why i never opened a bitfunder account
nubbins`: that's serendipity
Bugpowder: boom
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 0.0535 = 0.535 BTC [-] {2}
kakobrekla: kinda funny
kakobrekla: since primecoins are one of the few which are not finite
Namworld: Wait... what?
kakobrekla: which part
Namworld: The "finite by design" primecoin
Namworld: Where the heck did you find that?
ozbot: XPM PROOFS Batch 1 Sold out! Batch 2 estimated mid November - Reserve Now!
ThickAsThieves: TAT.VIRTUALMINE will be bought back and closed permanently: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=223442.msg3491087#msg3491087
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla interesting.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.71111111 BTC [-]
nubbins`: LELELELELELEL @ toronto mayor rob ford
ThickAsThieves: that the one who parties with crackheads?
ozbot: Mayor Rob Ford: 'Yes I have smoked crack cocaine' - Toronto - CBC News
nubbins`: THAT SAME ONE
nubbins`: hahaha
mircea_popescu: gotta love the electoral process
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.73689999 = 1.4738 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00271489 = 0.543 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 300 @ 0.00109699 = 0.3291 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 134 @ 0.0010852 = 0.1454 BTC [-] {5}
nubbins`: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD last: 255.00000, vol: 30938.96121544 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 248.48, vol: 33777.52262645 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 242, vol: 18572.65579 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 246.20, vol: 840.67752409 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 250.829282, vol: 51869.81300000 | Volume-weighted last average: 249.960234105
kakobrekla: >>Since they handled the transition from BTCT to BitFunder quite professionally, I don't see a problem moving to Havelock.
mircea_popescu: which gem is this
kakobrekla: how about a guess
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2214 @ 0.00081338 = 1.8008 BTC [-]
pankkake: kenilworthnothing!
ozbot: 510929738.01615 | Next Diff in 2015 blocks | Estimated Change: -99.9353% in 27d 23h 19m 51s
topace: ola
topace: and then there was two
topace: which exchange has a securities license and has been approved by regulators to operate a bitcoin denominated securities exchange?
topace: WHOOP
jurov: i heard mircea issued some licenses
jurov: he is prolific regulator
jcpham: i got a withdrawal notification from btct.co last night
jcpham: for the dust left in my account i couldn't withdraw
jcpham: sorry i can't load bitcointalk.org
jcpham: that bgp doesn't route for me
jurov: burnside: "TBH I've never used sendmany before and this didn't seem like a good time to be experimenting. I've been meaning to play with it for some time, maybe I can use it in my next project."
jcpham: huuuuu
jurov: he then goes on to reference nefario
kakobrekla: bashable.
jurov: oh my, even his sig is bashable
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00080972 = 8.6235 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: so wait. this is the guy that supposedly stole my lunch or something ?
mircea_popescu: "never had cause to use sendmany yet we've consistently had more custom than mpex in our six months of existence" ?
pankkake: well he was supporting the miners!
pankkake: also running an old bitcoind with higher fees
nubbins`: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD last: 241.00000, vol: 35774.79792554 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 233.51, vol: 38175.11393156 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 236, vol: 20674.08336 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 234.98, vol: 880.71355611 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 245.5222, vol: 52914.01100000 | Volume-weighted last average: 239.953527052
jurov: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 199.898744 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.400594844798 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU).
jurov: oooooh
kakobrekla: wb lag
firedrops: ah, goxxing is back. excellent.
mike_c: hm, mpex market maker bot is dead, website is slow. somebody knocked over the hamster wheel..
benkay: ;;gettrust firedrops
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user firedrops: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=firedrops | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=firedrops | Rated since: never
mike_c: $vwap s.mpoe
mpexbot: mike_c: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00081676 high: 0.000823 low: 0.00080792 volume: 199372 btc: 162.83883071 7 day: average: 0.00082223 high: 0.00084784 low: 0.00080585 volume: 988990 btc: 813.17454821 30 day: average: 0.00083277 high: 0.00085779 low: 0.00080585 volume: 2391578 btc: 1991.62506948
benkay: firedrops: ars is shorthand for a particular shitty south american currency
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15998 @ 0.00081223 = 12.9941 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: mike_c probably mpoe bot can't acquire price signals owing to the exceedingly shitty infrastructure still plaguing this bitcoin to fiat exchange thing.
mike_c: hehe. gox lag is only, what, 10 minutes?
mike_c: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 0.203516 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.000407843785321 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
mike_c: nvm, they fixed it
mircea_popescu: when the fuck did liz taylor become latina ?
mircea_popescu: woman was porcelain white, what the fuck is wrong with this world.
mircea_popescu: we're going to end up with jesus being mideastern again at this rate.
benkay: sun'll do that to a body
mircea_popescu: except she spent about as much in the sun as coinbase on wallstreet.
mircea_popescu: half hour over twenty years.
benkay: in other news, passwords are too hard for ios users to handle
jurov: ;;bc,24hprc
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.73689999 BTC [+]
ozbot: Faster and safer than typing a password. Just Knock. For iPhone + Mac.
gribble: 238.32
mircea_popescu: how would that be safer
benkay: i am asking at least two other people this
mircea_popescu: there need to be some punishments included in marketing.
mircea_popescu: as it stands right now every idiot is drawn to that field because you can literally do anything with no repercussion.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8384 @ 0.00080792 = 6.7736 BTC [-]
benkay: i'm particularly impressed by the part where i'm supposed to install software that unlocks my computer without prompting for a password
mircea_popescu: does it also spread over the faint sound of rustling in cheap speakers ?
benkay: it installs when you look at a chemtrail
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 43 @ 0.0063891 = 0.2747 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: incidentally, if badbios howls in a forest but there's no tree to hear it, will it have infected it ?
benkay: the timecube resists all infarctions
mircea_popescu: timecube for usb!
benkay: timecube fpga buttcorn minors
kleeck: I have created software that runs a process in the background of my OS, creating a low frequency message of "Fuck you!" to all other low frequency speakins machines. It ensures those nasty things stay away. So far so good.
pizzaman1337: mpex.co down?
benkay: looks like it pizzaman1337
mircea_popescu: not again ?!
pizzaman1337: wait, just loaded
pizzaman1337: but it wasn't for a few mins
ozbot: Down For Everyone Or Just Me -> Check if your website is down or up?
mircea_popescu: its slow but it loads for me
jurov: from the US it loads much slower
mircea_popescu: must be some sort of routing issue i suspek
benkay: from argentina it loads pretty darn slow too
mircea_popescu: argentina is in the us.
benkay: wat
mircea_popescu: think about the top level routing table.
benkay: ok ok
mircea_popescu: it's not like it has cable laid undersea to tokyo
benkay: hey man i've been sunning myself and guzzling champagne all day
benkay: backbone map is not top of the noggin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.0063891 = 0.2556 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 17102 @ 0.00197356 = 33.7518 BTC [-] {34}
mircea_popescu: nubbins` indeed. revised.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00269999 = 0.135 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.7369 = 1.4738 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 55.165583 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.110551210667 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 70 @ 0.00604753 = 0.4233 BTC [-] {2}
FabianB_: "www.bitstamp.net requires an additional security check"
FabianB_: is that just for me or do they have probs in general?
kakobrekla: if by probs you mean fucked in the head, yes, you are correct
mircea_popescu: ;;bc,diff
gribble: Error: "bc,diff" is not a valid command.
ozbot: 510929738.01615 | Next Diff in 1997 blocks | Estimated Change: 19.1845% in 11d 4h 52m 2s
mircea_popescu: cute, still going up
ThickAsThieves: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 717934891.3 based on data since last change | 521617225.922 based on data for last three days
mircea_popescu: at this rate what do i do, write a post about "ppl stop mining" ?
ThickAsThieves: but mining is fiat-profitable!
mircea_popescu: at 700 ?
ThickAsThieves: it wont hit 700
mircea_popescu: no it's not. we're actually developing a problem, in that even new amateur asics aren't making enough to justify it
ThickAsThieves: thats just cuz it just changed
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves baby it was 70 not so long ago.
nubbins`: eventually all these miners are gonna stop accepting tx's with low fees
ThickAsThieves: oh i just mean it wont be 700 this next diff change
ThickAsThieves: it will this year
mircea_popescu: bitbet says it beats 1bn by xmas
ozbot: Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting
jborkl: my creation
ThickAsThieves: i bet on yes
mircea_popescu: jborkl what's it do ?
kakobrekla: jborkl knc?
nubbins`: jborkl: what's that a picture of?
nubbins`: heh, ?x3
ThickAsThieves: quantum bong
jborkl: my chili, self contained water cooled
nubbins`: tat, you're neither high nor sober until someone observes you
jborkl: the size of a old fpga single
mircea_popescu: im behind the times. what's a chili ?
kakobrekla: nubbins` before mp observes you, fixed it for ya
nubbins`: i'm not sure mp factors into quantum physics
nubbins`: but what do i know
nubbins`: it's all an elaborate tapestry, etc
kakobrekla: isnt being drunk an artform?
nubbins`: in my experience, yes
kakobrekla: well then.
nubbins`: relevant video, one sec
mircea_popescu: depends how well you do at it
jborkl: it is a custom design off of BFL chips- mrteal made it and I have a bunch- now small form factor water cooled
mircea_popescu: jborkl oh i see.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla you threw me for a loop cause afaik knc still vaporwares.
kakobrekla: would be more interesting with knc chip jborkl.
kakobrekla: who shipped those 500gh boxes then
jborkl: well, I have that- so I just take stuff and make them different
jborkl: now it is small and silent
jborkl: and runs at 66c
ozbot: Ol' Dirty Bastard Yo MTV Drunken Freestyle - YouTube
nubbins`: if i was that drunk, i'd likely be dead
nubbins`: wait, knc vaporware?
kakobrekla: afaik no
kakobrekla: dunno what mp is on
nubbins`: i was gonna say, i wasted money on a 'group buy' for one and have been collecting change for a few weeks now
mircea_popescu: did they deliver since ?
ozbot: BitBet - KnCMiner will deliver ASIC devices before October 1st
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu couple of days after
nubbins`: yeah
mircea_popescu: but that was just to like, select people no ?
kakobrekla: they shipped that day some of the first units iirc
mircea_popescu: or did they actually deliver tyheir whole batch ?
kakobrekla: whole afaik, in a week or two
mircea_popescu: i guess stale cache in my head
nubbins`: better clear it all
kakobrekla: theres no other explanation for diff rise
kakobrekla: than knc.
mircea_popescu: o, there is.
kakobrekla: you gonna link me to the gov shit ?
mircea_popescu: i ain't linking no one! im for freedom
mircea_popescu: down with the links of slavery!
kakobrekla: hehe mk
nubbins`: links are really just a way for the patriarchy to something or other
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 130 @ 0.0023 = 0.299 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: you know for the record the only pic is from like... coindesk
mircea_popescu: which afaik got bfl delivered too, back in like march.
ThickAsThieves: dont forvget the exploded ones
mircea_popescu: anyone got pix or anything ? anyone here actually had personally received knc miners ?
kakobrekla: yes my friend did
ThickAsThieves: there are pics of people selling theirs in forums too
kakobrekla: a week or so ago
kakobrekla: but he was not the first to order
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla did he get a lot or just like one to test ?
kakobrekla: 2 iirc
ozbot: [CLOSED] 1 KNC Jupiter Miner Preorder 1-500 + hosting (0/70 shares @1BTC)
nubbins`: now, i don't think they'll ever break even
nubbins`: but they seem to exist, at least
kakobrekla: at least the pic is lacking the joshes stupid face
nubbins`: PCBs are silkscreened, although i doubt it's ever done by hand
mircea_popescu: pankkake that thread is such crap. there's a ton of huge pix from early on before oct.
mircea_popescu: then there.s a bunch of crap text at the end.
ThickAsThieves: TAT.VIRTUALMINE is officially closed, bought back, and delisted from Bitfunder.com
mircea_popescu: it includes a 5k px wide screencap
mircea_popescu: and some 300px wide boxes of vagueness.
mircea_popescu: am i being unreasonable here ?! who the fuck makes 300px pics of the entire substance of their thing.
mircea_popescu: it actually shows you the whole thing
ThickAsThieves: oh its a racecar
mircea_popescu: finally.
nubbins`: man. the guy printing those PCBs has a FILTHY workspace
mircea_popescu: he does ?
nubbins`: 07:40
nubbins`: total dirtbag
nubbins`: oh, i forgot you can link to exact times
ozbot: Home made PCB by the method of screen printing - YouTube
ThickAsThieves: looks like a horror scene
nubbins`: right?
nubbins`: "let's not even bother trying to clean this dump before filming it"
nubbins`: anyway, interesting, but too many caustic chemicals involved for me
mircea_popescu: kinda looks like a repurposed meth lavb
nubbins`: repurposed abattoir
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.0060436 = 0.1209 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.0536 = 0.268 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 108 @ 0.00109 = 0.1177 BTC [-]
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: thoughts on xbond?
mircea_popescu: what do you mean specifically ?
jcpham: does it have anything at all to do with mining
jcpham: nerp
mircea_popescu: it's tat's fixed thing
mircea_popescu: something like 20% apr iirc.
mike_c: 10 i believe.
nubbins`: nothing specific, just wondering if you had any general thoughts on it
ThickAsThieves: arent there rules about questions like that ;)
jcpham: burn the witch if she sinks she wasnt a witch
mircea_popescu: well it's one of the most transparent deals possible. you get x% a day. if you trust the owner to pay up, you buy it. if you don't, you don't. can't get simpler than that.
jcpham: i see a black box that yields %.05/day using majick
jcpham: but i guess it's real majick
pigeons: i'm borrowing at 0.05/day against my upcoming possible rota payment ;0
jcpham: whoa
jcpham: risk takers everywhere
mircea_popescu: i guess this'll now spawn a new exchange that'll in due time bury mpex in 3 months
pigeons: bah, didnt you get the message, trading through forum messages is much better than gpg signed exchanges
mircea_popescu: well, considering people still use email for the purpose...
jcpham: yeah way more trusty to use forum pm
jcpham: real business
pigeons: never get directly from the issuer either, always go through several intermediaries. its like wearing 5 condoms
mircea_popescu: all our love of small government and deregulation would look a lot different if any of us actually had the experience of how workshops looked in the 1800s
mircea_popescu: you think that abattoir/meth lab looks dirty ?
mircea_popescu: shoulda seen chicago's meatpacking business.
nubbins`: i actually read an article about that a while ago
nubbins`: the details escape me
mircea_popescu: Union Stockyards' famous lake of fat and all that,
BigBitz: So hold on...
BigBitz: BitFunder is closing now?
jcpham: stop the presses
nubbins`: i can't, i have deadlines
pigeons: mybitcoin is down too
jcpham: my bitcoinica account is empty!
pigeons: i can't get to satoshi dice webpage from usa
pigeons: mtgox no longer trades magic cards
dexX7: use a proxy
dexX7: or the addresses direct
ThickAsThieves: i will charge a fee to convert your magic cards to online versions
nubbins`: bitcoin trading cards
dexX7: altcoin trading cards
nubbins`: you could have rare "scammer" cards
jcpham: i want the bitcoin jesus limited foil
nubbins`: well. maybe not rare
jcpham: the one where he does the gox interview
jcpham: at gunpoint
jcpham: ok allegedly
benkay: i've been thinking about an entirely premined altcoin for trading cards
jcpham: nice
benkay: but then i realized there was no need to diddle with cryptocurrencies for that.
benkay: but it's a somehwat complicated problem. one wants to be able to make more cards as a game operators
benkay: operator
benkay: and it would be neat if cards had a battle history
benkay: leveled up etc
benkay: maybe get destroyed on occasion
mod6: [ if someone sent me a PM from here, I don't know who it was. I had to kill my irssi session, sorry, plz resend. Thx. ]
nubbins`: i think you're just describing a regular card game
benkay: give the man a prize
benkay: how can i guarantee that the human against whom i'm playing on the internet actually has the Great Sword of +5 Game Winning though with the current playing stack, eh?
benkay: aside from trusting wizards of the coast
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.74974998 = 1.4995 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00080629 = 1.9754 BTC [-]
nubbins`: hm, i dunno
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 120 @ 0.0060799 = 0.7296 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: I wonder what % of bitcoiner family members will get bitcoins for xmas
Namworld: . . .
Namworld: shhhhh
nubbins`: i gave my dad a casascius coin for his last birthday
Namworld: Does he likes it?
ThickAsThieves: ;;market buy 20000
gribble: This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 18880.76 bitcoins, for a total of 6667055928.5947 USD and take the price to 99999999999.0000. | Data vintage: 0.0024 seconds
nubbins`: yeah. he likes it even more since i told him to check the exchange rate earlier
nubbins`: but he's big into coins anyway
Namworld: Eheh
nubbins`: kinda sets the bar a bit high for mom's birthday tho :(
dexX7: :D
BingoBoingo: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 0.65391 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00131042831846 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).
nubbins`: speaking of coins, i'm expecting some real beauties in the mail soon
ozbot: 1 oz. Fine Silver Coin - Polar Bear - Mintage: 8,500 (2014)
ozbot: $100 for $100 Fine Silver Coin - The Grizzly (2014)
benkay: of course you hold physical, nubbins`
nubbins`: not 100% sure if i'm parsing that correctly
nubbins`: maybe try saying it another way?
benkay: there's a layer of irony
benkay: "of course"
benkay: expressing my surprise at a decision you're making
benkay: but it coexists with the actual statement i'm making, which is that in the context of you, the decision makes total sense
benkay: physical in the sense of an underlying
benkay: but the *physical* backing the underlying
benkay: underlying being the thing against which a future is written
benkay: sensible now?
nubbins`: actually, no
benkay: okay :)
nubbins`: i mean
nubbins`: i know all those words
nubbins`: but they don't make sense when you put them together like that
nubbins`: the best i can come up with is "dummy bought some casascius coins"
nubbins`: but that can't be what you were implying
Namworld: [19:24] <nubbins`> kinda sets the bar a bit high for mom's birthday tho :(
Namworld: Give her 2 casascius coins
nubbins`: might as well give her a drill press
nubbins`: for all the interest she'd take in them
Namworld: You're not starting a trend that you will have to upkeep and that will drive you to your financial ruin...
nubbins`: i wonder what the hug-btc exchange rate is
nubbins`: i suspect $200 is a lot of hugs
benkay: man to calculate the hug rate i gotta back out food and rent
benkay: ain't nobody got time for that
nubbins`: i always find it a bit cheeky when people on irc say they don't have time for things ;)
benkay: a) vacation
benkay: b) if i'm doing financials like that it's not to calculate hug rates
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4219 @ 0.00080665 = 3.4033 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: so how's irc in argentina, anyway?
benkay: just a placeholder while babe gets herself did
nubbins`: you had me worried
nubbins`: resort or hotel?
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> well. maybe not rare << it's clearly a C card.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i wonder what % of bitcoiner family members will get cardanos for xmas
nubbins`: benkay: cool, good idea
nubbins`: such options didn't exist when i was visiting s.a.
benkay: everything is better for my generation
benkay: except governance
nubbins`: we're probably from the same generation
mircea_popescu: "just a placeholder while babe gets herself did" << um are you there so she gets pregnant ?!
nubbins`: i was just much younger when i travelled
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: fast track to citizenship
nubbins`: only prolly not
ThickAsThieves: <mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves i wonder what % of bitcoiner family members will get cardanos for xmas --- the more the merrier
mircea_popescu: totally.
nubbins`: gonna go for flashy packaging?
benkay: an engineering rounding error. no bitcoiners know about it or why its awesome :(
benkay: did = made up
nubbins`: as in, "i'm getting my hair did"
mircea_popescu: i dunno. usually babes getting done means creampie.
benkay: that was earlier
mircea_popescu: lol obamadid ?
benkay: obamawut?
nubbins`: ;;ud get your hair did
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Get%20your%20hair%20did | Get your hair did. To have one's hair cut/styled. "If you're a fly gal, then get your nails done. Get a pedicure, get your hair did." - "Work It", Missy Elliot. mark as ...
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: Get your hair did
nubbins`: heh, missy elliot
benkay: is it a joke about teh negroz?
mircea_popescu: benkay the new of everything. like, obamabeer = soda pop with artificial flavouring.
nubbins`: what's that video where she had the little kids breakdancing
mircea_popescu: obamacar = bycicle.
mircea_popescu: obamadid = hairdo.
benkay: that's worse than my puns.
mircea_popescu: obamapun
benkay: i don't pun but when i obama
benkay: steaktime!
ozbot: Missy Elliott - Gossip Folks [Video] - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.749 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 88 @ 0.0060799 = 0.535 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 45 @ 0.00608 = 0.2736 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11868 @ 0.00080805 = 9.5899 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 204 @ 0.00249899 = 0.5098 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 370 @ 0.00249953 = 0.9248 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 222 @ 0.0025 = 0.555 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 94 @ 0.0010906 = 0.1025 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14838 @ 0.00081186 = 12.0464 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 117 @ 0.00608 = 0.7114 BTC [+]
ozbot: Gox | Buy: $258.00 Sell: $259.80 Last: $259.80 High: $260.03 Low: $229.00
ozbot: Bitstamp | Buy: $248.51
ozbot: Coinbase | Buy: $256.29
ozbot: Weex | Buy: $66.00 Sell: $156.00 Last: $156.00
uglux: inb4 ATH
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00249999 = 0.125 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 400 @ 0.00109599 = 0.4384 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: lol so ny went and got itself a commie mayor
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.70962969 = 10.6444 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 424 @ 0.00608 = 2.5779 BTC [+]
chaang-noi: hi all
Namworld: Hey chaang-noi
chaang-noi: who has the champagne ready? :)
mike_c: what's the official number?
chaang-noi: 266 on gox
mircea_popescu: not official yet.
chaang-noi: 259 something on stamp
chaang-noi: if you are talking about the old highs
mike_c: yeah, thx
chaang-noi: $6 away on gox
chaang-noi: china had a bit of a wake up a while ago
chaang-noi: we might hit it today
mike_c: about the new nyc mayor: [joe blow] "called Mr. de Blasio the best hope for slowing the growth of luxury condominiums that crowd his Manhattan neighborhood."
mircea_popescu: o, no worry about that, there's not going to be any luxury in nyc.
mircea_popescu: never again.
asciilifeform: 'Hruschobas' for all.
asciilifeform: when will Mr. O order the construction of a thousand crappy tenements that can bear his name...?
mircea_popescu: obamahousing ?
mircea_popescu: kinda too long a word for obamaelectorate. hm.
asciilifeform: 'obamabox' maybe.
mircea_popescu: obamabox yeah
asciilifeform: nice alliterative ring.
mircea_popescu: the new obamacits will be obamacared in the obamabox.
asciilifeform: and the malcontents carted away in obamawagen.
mircea_popescu: it's kind of funny how it works out, the soviets ruled by essentially sending people from moscow to siberia
mircea_popescu: these other soviets essentially send people from siberia to moscow
asciilifeform: quite a trick. see 'the death & life of great american cities.'
mircea_popescu: apparently socialism has to be implemented as a demographic pump.
asciilifeform: gotta exploit a thermodynamic gradient of sorts, to make a big splash happen.
KRS1: thermite
KRS1: magnesium and iron i think
asciilifeform: in this case, more like burning furniture.
mircea_popescu: so how is the new mayor going to pay for the 5k tickets for homeless bums living in downtown apartments they don't own, that will be issued on top of the 2.5k that the city couldn't pay for back in 2010 ?
asciilifeform: at least the soviet zeks mined gold, uranium, coal. what's mined in the u.s. inner city?
mircea_popescu: womanly issues.
Namworld: The trick is to put all the world's population in a big container mixed with thermite and light the thing up. Vote Namworld.
uglux: namworldcare
mircea_popescu: Namworld let's run together, on the deal that we follow your plan except i hang around and anyone that can convince me thery should be let out is let out.
asciilifeform: 'the collapse party always wins, whether anyone votes for it or not, and whether it runs or not...'
Namworld: That's not in my campaign plans... you should run independently then
pankkake: http://www.cthulhu.org/ Cthulhu for President. Why vote for a lesser evil?
ozbot: The Home Page for Evil
mircea_popescu: is cthuylhu evil even ?
mircea_popescu: "you don't know him like i do"
asciilifeform: anybody recall the scene in 'atlas shrugged' where they pass through the remains of a city and see a man grunt a plow by hand, lacking even a horse?
mircea_popescu: no wife either ?
asciilifeform: not that i recall. presumably used up the wife.
mircea_popescu: made soap
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well. In North StL apparently that effort they are harvesting everything by hand because "job creating", very un-LISP
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: expect to see quite a bit more 'job creation'
asciilifeform: mining coal or uranium is 'so 20th c.' now they mine: votes.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, I've been practicing with my rag and bottle of water.
asciilifeform: i predict: the 'obamacare' software fukkupy will turn into a full-blown 'de-automation' campaign. 'create jobs!' you heard it here phirst.
mircea_popescu: McAuliffe's get-out-the-vote strategy is from Obama's playbook, focusing on minorities and young voters as well as women. Quentin Kidd, a political scientist at Virginia's Christopher Newport University, predicts the model would be used nationally in 2014 if McAuliffe wins.
mircea_popescu: we desperately needed mr kidd to figure this one out heh.
Namworld: If I win these elections, I will spend 100% of the national budget on developing and building a viable interstellar spaceship. Which I will use to quit the solar system. Alone. Vote Namworld.
mircea_popescu: no harem ?!
mircea_popescu: son, i am dissapoint.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00249999 = 0.25 BTC [-]
uglux: he has sexbots on his ship...
mircea_popescu: anyway, nyc should be a splendid place for running a criminal empire in about a year.
Namworld: Indeed, quite the replicas. As a grumpy old businessman and sociopath, I cannot handle company.
pankkake: the next detroit?
mircea_popescu: i wonder if it'll be the vory or who
Namworld: I will, however, leave behind 1 sexbot so everyone can have some fun. Then I will proceed to nuke everyone from orbit. Vote Namworld.
asciilifeform: think big. next johannesburg.
mircea_popescu: yeah, more like the old new york. think pre-giuliani.
mircea_popescu: tho prolly yer too youngins to recall that
BingoBoingo: NY has no hope now that George Steinbrenner has passed on this living deal.
pankkake: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/06/nyregion/de-blasio-is-elected-new-york-city-mayor.html?_r=0 lol at this article. trying to find out who this guy is, but this is just plain dick sucking
mircea_popescu: pankkake the democrat 2nd favorite (the favorite wienerschnitzel guy imploded earlier over some sexting )
KRS1: he really does look like a human penis
mircea_popescu: he's basically rarara more taxes on the rich to give stuff to the poor, vote Namworld.
pankkake: you've got to love all the little journalisty things. to pain the ex-mayor as a bad guy, just mention he has "king-zise S.U.V."
mike_c: being successful is anti-american, didn't you know?
mircea_popescu: totally.
ozbot: BTC Robot - Worlds First Bitcoin Robot
mircea_popescu: or "the first autopilot scam for bitcoin", edition 5673454
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00081641 = 4.1637 BTC [+]
opc0d3: record volume on ICBIT.se today. $2 million traded... lol @ MPEX
opc0d3: MPEX left in the dust because of high fees
opc0d3: ICBIT 0% fees
opc0d3: that is all.
bloctoc: how does icbit survive without fees? pump and dump?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12153 @ 0.00081805 = 9.9418 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: bloctoc personally i'm waiting for the negative fees
mircea_popescu: bitfinex had them, bitcoinica had them, why don' they ?
mircea_popescu: the bar for scams is pretty high by now.
mircea_popescu: ;;google trilema icbit.se
gribble: *Unofficial* ICBIT (BTC Futures Trading) - Help & FAQ's - Bitcoin ...: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=164255.0>; ICBIT - Bitcoin: <https://bitcoin.it/wiki/ICBIT>; Icbit.se, the bucket shop pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2012/icbitse-the-bucket-shop/>
bloctoc: I have that domain if anybody's buying THE-BUCKET-SHOP.COM
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 564 @ 0.00053462 = 0.3015 BTC [-] {5}
BingoBoingo: ;;goxlag
gribble: MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
asciilifeform: ;;gulag
gribble: Error: "gulag" is not a valid command.
BingoBoingo: ;;fucklag
gribble: Error: "fucklag" is not a valid command.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.68 BTC [-]
toffoo: the 0% icbit fees is temporary for their anniversary
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 553 @ 0.00109599 = 0.6061 BTC [+]
Skitchen: does anyone know if the apparent 500TH ASICMiner were producing ever got produced/sold?
pgp: yep... that's the plan
mircea_popescu: Skitchen afaik they're still being worked on
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7623 @ 0.00082036 = 6.2536 BTC [+] {2}
Skitchen: ty for response
ozbot: Loan Me 60 BTC, Get All My Personal Info and a 100% Solid Plan (Read)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 12 @ 0.05382916 = 0.6459 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 8 @ 0.05324999 = 0.426 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 45 @ 0.05689999 = 2.5605 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.35899999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.35899999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.35899999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 159 @ 0.00608001 = 0.9667 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 41 @ 0.00608001 = 0.2493 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Is it time to consolidate the the 1/1000 and 1/100 ASIC miner shares into 100 and 1000 share blocks for the passthroughs yet?
chaang-noi: 10 more cents :)
chaang-noi: 2 cents
nubbins`: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 265.55178, Best ask: 265.97686, Bid-ask spread: 0.42508, Last trade: 265.97686, 24 hour volume: 47005.09017422, 24 hour low: 229.00000, 24 hour high: 265.97686, 24 hour vwap: 248.66840
nubbins`: too quick
nubbins`: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 266.00000, Best ask: 266.00001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 266.00000, 24 hour volume: 47135.79630850, 24 hour low: 229.00000, 24 hour high: 266.00001, 24 hour vwap: 248.71650
assbot: 123!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40263 @ 0.00082613 = 33.2625 BTC [+] {4}
mike_c: to the mars!
BingoBoingo: mike_c: To the Core!
mike_c: hehe, nice nubbins
Bugpowder: PROST!
Bugpowder: 266.00001
dub: whats ath?
nubbins`: all time high
dub: ...
nubbins`: lightning bolts, etc
nubbins`: streamers, balloons, cashouts
nubbins`: sorrow, regret for some
chaang-noi: ch0000000 ch00000 remember remeber the 5th of november :)
Skitchen: yaaaaaaaaay, happy bitcoin day :)
nubbins`: it's the 6th
Skitchen: yaaaaaaay, happy bitcoin week :)
nubbins`: there ya go
bloctoc: drink!
nubbins`: smoke!
nubbins`: catch up on bills!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.149 = 0.447 BTC [-]
zacm: stock up on all the alpaca socks you could ever want!!!
Skitchen: nubbins must be aussie.
nubbins`: nope, anywhere east of EST is living in tomorrow
nubbins`: it's 1:17am here in nl, ca
nubbins`: 12:47 in halifax
Skitchen: ahhh nah, the catch up on bills comment after saying 'smoke' threw me off
nubbins`: aha!
dub: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD last: 266.16000, vol: 47781.31463084 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 253.96, vol: 46606.25582717 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 248, vol: 25315.18483 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 244.98, vol: 988.01632945 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 260.7549, vol: 51692.15100000 | Volume-weighted last average: 258.452464424
zacm: smoke your bills
bloctoc: $500 by monday
ozbot: All Time High (Theme from "Octopussy") - Rita Coolidge - YouTube
BingoBoingo: Gem chasers, all of them.
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