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(trilema) diana_coman: what X? no X on that machine, lol
(trilema) diana_coman: will dig some more later I guess; unless someone knows this already
(trilema) diana_coman: hm, it sees it/reports it fine as far as I can tell; pl2303 attached to ttyUSB0; ehci_hcd
(trilema) diana_coman: otherwise I guess I'll have to figure out what screen does exactly that it works, ugh
(trilema) diana_coman: to re-phrase the question then: does anyone know of any centos/dd-specific idea re flow control? very same tty setup works on ubuntu or xubuntu verified; to reiterate: ttyUSB0 IS set with stty -F /dev/ttyUSB0 115200 raw -echo -echoe -echok; anything else centos wants there specifically?
(trilema) diana_coman: lol mircea_popescu
(trilema) diana_coman: I might add that I *did* run the stty command first ofc; AND reported settings afterwards seemed fine
(trilema) diana_coman: on Centos 6.8 (64bits) trying to read fg's output from ttyUSB0 with dd hangs on most occasions (erratically it will work but I haven't figured out when exactly); at the same time, a "screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200 " works perfectly fine <-- anybody knows what this is about?
(trilema) diana_coman: hah, I can pass it on to his father then !!
(trilema) diana_coman: but for some reason it's still my father's oscilloscope I remember better from that age (5), lol
(trilema) diana_coman: I think there'll be some crypto play in this house, lol; tbh as a child this part of "secret" messages was terribly fun even as idea only
(trilema) diana_coman: it is, yes; it just did not make it to the top of the pile really
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, good idea actually; I suspect he needs more play with the whole point of throwing coin as it is ; part of what was difficult was precisely the "but why do you want to do that?"
(trilema) diana_coman: to take apart his own stuff too, lol; important this one
(trilema) diana_coman: but he is still only 5 so a lot to figure out yet
(trilema) diana_coman: BingoBoingo, not yet hardware store as such, no; he does get to see though anything that is going on (computers being operated on included), he does get to help with anything that he is able to atm and he does get to assemble his own stuff (the most recent of which is a fully functional water pump model thing that kept him busy for days as per http://www.dianacoman.com/blog/2017/10/08/lictis-plictis-ori-boala-copilariei/ (poor
(trilema) diana_coman: q picture in there)
(trilema) diana_coman: phf, quite; basically "white squiggles" from his point of view atm really; he noticed the letters, yes, because those he recognises as symbols but otherwise in any case, screws and cables way more interesting
(trilema) diana_coman: phf, neah, he ignored the logo entirely
(trilema) diana_coman: ahaha shinohai
(trilema) diana_coman: aha, try explaining to a 5 yo what that is and what it does...
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform I guess I can vouch now for FG being "safe for kids" - 5 yo spotted one on my desk and asked the usual ton of questions BUT he figured out by himself that "it has a manual too, look!"
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu, guess so, huh; he'd find out quickly "how is it possible" lol
(trilema) diana_coman: maybe he suggests he would sit and starve because... no car?
(trilema) diana_coman: that might be I guess; he certainly does write at least more than the 100 words thrown at the blank page half-randomly, certainly; not so sure if there is anything more than that
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu, ugh, that guy always stank to me of americanism of the most annoying sort; and this "how could they have travelled" is precisely of that sort; "oh noes, how can one WALK a MILE???"
(trilema) diana_coman: !!key Roger_
(trilema) diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-07#1722059 <- yes, I got that as part of my previous log combing on this
(trilema) diana_coman: I get that, yes; it's anyway more than there currently is available otherwise; and not insignificantly more at that
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, myeah, no guarantee, precisely
(trilema) diana_coman: obv atm nobody can actually give any sort of guarantee anyway so it's more of a model /ideal thing
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, aka has access to some know to adjust cost vs protection essentially
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, eulora needs a client-server communication protocol that at least allows client to decide for self the compromise between cost and some degree of confidentiality+integrity for the info it exchanges
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, I thought you were aiming for "what-we-want" rather than merely "usable-for-lack-of-what-we-actually-want"
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, makes sense, noted
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, no experimental changes/patches or anything, straight the build from http://thebitcoin.foundation/trb-howto.html
(trilema) diana_coman: mod6, np; and will do
(trilema) diana_coman: hi mod6, I've set up a public node running vanilla trb, at 103.36.92.112; it's still getting up to date so probably not of much use yet but it's meant to stay as it is anyway (it's at ~260k atm)
(trilema) diana_coman: well, one can't commit what one doesn't have, sure
(trilema) diana_coman: anyways re state of isp affairs I don't see it getting any better by itself
(trilema) diana_coman: I think the only sort of unclear thing is why the difference (mine was a bit higher) but it's probably correlated to value of package I suppose or something
(trilema) diana_coman: since I recently got similar notice to pay and I was trying to see if you had some post somewhere to link to
(trilema) diana_coman: Framedragger, I think there was some ping re the customs duty for fg when you were in the UK too
(trilema) diana_coman: wb Framedragger
(trilema) diana_coman: I don't recall that at the offline build either; still, this time I tried the online build and...
(trilema) diana_coman: mod6, the online build (at least that one) of trb seems to require also bzip2 -> to add to deps at http://thebitcoin.foundation/trb-howto.html ?
(trilema) diana_coman: myeah; and search shows it basically as separator
(trilema) diana_coman: eh, try searching for.. "p"
(trilema) diana_coman: can have discussion there in logs or here, reference is still there
(trilema) diana_coman: uhm, why same discussion twice?
(trilema) diana_coman: so upload file + link
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, if you don't mind me asking: why don't you chronicle all of those on your blog (where it would be easier to follow including historically at any point)?
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, thank you!
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, ah, if you meant latin letters then I guess most of mine are "anglo" in this sense, yes; prolly just 2 or so actually Russian
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu, eh, there is that re playing
(trilema) diana_coman: hm, now that you mention it I realise I do not have even one single anglo-deck of cards actually in the house, lol
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, fwiw re deck of cards the way I found that fake one was basically through a Russian who saw&bought it because it reminded HIM of the original deck of cards of his grandfather who was of the type self-exiled to France
(trilema) diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-02#1719440 - interestingly enough re uk vat for us "imports" I got passed on this snippet, apparently published in the spectator too: "I recently ordered a pair of wire strippers from the USA at a cost of £14.07. Two weeks later I received a demand for £3.90 duty and VAT, plus a Royal Mail 'handling fee' of £8. The latter struck me as an awful lot of handling for a small tool. Thank you, Royal
(trilema) diana_coman: Mail, but no. You may now enjoy handling the item all the way back to America, at your own cost."
(trilema) diana_coman: oh, classical theatre made me think of...antigona and I was racking my brains
(trilema) diana_coman: must be the legionnaire florentine brits-only ; but yes, makes sense
(trilema) diana_coman: money obv!) in a poor country and watching the sun setting just as the local economy sets too - it sounds as if they managed the setting part right at home
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform> diana_coman: as one who lives 20min from the fuhrerbunker, asciilifeform is not someone to lecture folx on 'time to move'. but i dun think anybody could ~pay~ me enuff to live in rotherhamistan... <-- on one hand most non-brits here (and yeah, it's an area with some 25%+ non-brits) anyway are a positive thing overall; on the other hand there is this (been repeatedly told) very British dream of retiring (with good
(trilema) diana_coman: come to think of it: the deck of cards! lol
(trilema) diana_coman: admittedly, not much (if any, hmm) from the USA
(trilema) diana_coman: I got plenty of packages otherwise and never had to pay such a thing
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, quite; you don't get to pay that if package doesn't attract customs fee
(trilema) diana_coman: more than a third even
(trilema) diana_coman: it's fixed amount asciilifeform ; and a third of it is for "post service" weirdly enough
(trilema) diana_coman: it seems that his was lower but it's unclear why really
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, part of trouble is that atm on such coordinates it's unclear if moon is far enough as it is
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, re "why would he do that" - I don't think there is a why; what to do with it comes afterwards anyway
(trilema) diana_coman: so dunno, having so many enoughs and eating them, might be I got fat
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, re britanistan I'm still searching for the essence of my deep problem that keeps me here; but historically it comes after having enough of Italy after having enough of France after having enough (more than enough!!!) of Ro
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, I did know of Framedragger's experience yes; similarly I have my own experience of Ro post brazenly not only kidnapping packages as in...entirely, vanished etc
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, got the "ultimate deck" from the US indeed, in...wholly time, 2013!! http://www.dianacoman.com/blog/2013/03/10/notite-disparate-despre-nimic-anume/
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, didn't know it was yours, man! lolz, lemme dig...
(trilema) diana_coman: are those different?
(trilema) diana_coman: cruciform, head hurting though can be same as "muscle hurts" - simply an indication it's ...working and growing
(trilema) diana_coman: quite; and what do you mean to say P when he said T!!! that is not fair and so on
(trilema) diana_coman: exactly, push this button get that response and if you want another response, tweak a bit and there it goes out
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu, presumably want to know how high in order to write it down on the to-do list or some such; it's a world of words, what else is there anyway other than words
(trilema) diana_coman: ah, I was thinking more post/blog style I guess; anyways, I'll link to log then I suppose
(trilema) diana_coman: Framedragger, did you ever publish somewhere re the customs fee you had to pay for your fg(s)?
(trilema) diana_coman: sounds good in this respect
(trilema) diana_coman: will let you know; in any case, crapple is not of much concern to s.mg ; players can crapple if they want to
(trilema) diana_coman appreciates very well that part with "astonishingly painful to properly saw off the kochball" after this past year of sawing off ps shit
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, oh, I'll certainly read that
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu, rsa like...everything else you mean,right?
(trilema) diana_coman: fwiw I do see where asciilifeform is coming from and esp re leaking keys but at the same time can't stall eulora on this either, so some sort of thing will have to be cobbled together at best as it can be atm
(trilema) diana_coman: neah, not the chat really, though merchant works atm via cli/chat so there would be that presumably
(trilema) diana_coman: items in own inventory/storage are private for instance
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, there is more info than just movements being passed between client and server
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, I'm currently looking at eulora rsa and I'm a bit foggy (I know and followed the bits posted in the logs but it's a long trail): what is available/ready to use atm?
(trilema) diana_coman: anyways, it can wait until trinque fixes it, not a big thing
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, heh, thanks; ofc I have the keys otherwise - I was just getting trb on a new box and getting the keys for it via deedbot seemed most straightforward
(trilema) diana_coman: hi asciilifeform
(trilema) diana_coman: uhm, something wrong with deedbot re keys?
(trilema) diana_coman: !!key asciilifeform
(trilema) diana_coman: make with one's own hands, lol
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, I follow the part re make your own hands - thing there is that there IS gain in that expenditure of time; and that gain is arguably more than the 15 bucks; however, I don't follow how does that lead to "makes sense just as much to collect coupons /whatevs "
(trilema) diana_coman: sure, nothing wrong with that in itself; still for FG as it is and given "it's underpriced anyway" ...surprising; that's it, all of it
(trilema) diana_coman: wtf is this now
(trilema) diana_coman: surprising != illegitimate
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu, there was no question re being legitimate
(trilema) diana_coman: cruciform, for one thing man at till is not producer - while I don't give "man at till" extra for the product itself (I might give him for the service if warranted, what), I might even want to give producer more if I consider what he does to be a great thing; payment is support at the end of the day; anyway keeping with your example the thing would be: man at till says it'll be $10, do you ask around in the shop if anyone sells
(trilema) diana_coman: a 2nd hand one cheaper; fine to do it, sure, just ...surprising
(trilema) diana_coman: aha, so I got it right earlier: it's about cheapest price or else sucker
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, ahahaha
(trilema) diana_coman: cruciform, if you don't mind for my curiosity: does the difference actually matter or above what threshold does it matter?
(trilema) diana_coman: by asciilifeform's calc earlier that would be $15 saved
(trilema) diana_coman: cruciform, worx then
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, by now I suspect it's more a thing on the lines of "gotta have cheapest price possible or else sucker"
(trilema) diana_coman: cruciform, ah, so this is about "maybe there is somewhere a deal and I pay 1 dime less?
(trilema) diana_coman: what puzzles is a. why would someone buy it from nsa to then sell it cheaper (admittedly it is possible though, anything is possible) b. if it's underpriced how is it worth it to spend *time* in order to get somehow possibly (not even surely) a slightly cheaper price
(trilema) diana_coman: cruciform, where did I say that?
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, there is that
(trilema) diana_coman: I don't have anything against others doing whatever, obv, just sort of ...not making sense to me
(trilema) diana_coman: well, it's not whatever really; as far as I know there is only one maker of FG; and moreover, if I think the "widget" is underpriced then no, I don't waste time running around to ask maybe it's even more underpriced sort of thing
(trilema) diana_coman: which "the widget"?
(trilema) diana_coman is genuinely rather puzzled on this one
(trilema) diana_coman: basically looking for subsidies or what?
(trilema) diana_coman: cruciform, I don't get it either: if you think NSA price is low anyway, then why are you looking for some other place to buy it for even less?
(trilema) diana_coman: seems down from here too fwiw
(trilema) diana_coman: mod6, yeah, node's been fine for quite a while; I'm still looking at the options to run one with a public ip too but not yet settled on that
(trilema) diana_coman: lol at this idea that "completely anonymous" = "don't use your real name"
(trilema) diana_coman: no worries; he might get sorted with danielpbarron's recipe
(trilema) diana_coman: yeah, I think you actually held his hand quite a lot but who knows what he has there exactly
(trilema) diana_coman: and I thought it was only me struggling to find time to keep up to date on logs lately, ha
(trilema) diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-24#1702832 <- aha; trouble is that people are scared of the "cost" and like any scare it is way bigger than the actual real thing; as previously mentioned I really don't see this "I can hold bitcoin without knowing /getting dirty with it" thing
(trilema) diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-24#1702796 <- it's actually even download& run sort of thing and no online/keeping up to date requirement; one has to keep their key ofc, but that's about as low bar as it gets I think
(trilema) diana_coman: no, no, just the image of the cardboard; now on your mobile/ipad too!
(trilema) diana_coman: well, some might of course, but it's again a matter of...hoping they will, sort of thign
(trilema) diana_coman: and while you are still around: register a key here because otherwise nobody will spend more time with some random nick that can't be in any way assigned to any sort of "you" at all
(trilema) diana_coman: runsegshet, read and ask more specific questions if any; in other words: learn; there's no way anybody else will simply do the work *for* you - if they do it, it will be for them and so you can at most...hope; poor path that one, even if very crowded indeed; if you want to hold bitcoins, you need to figure out the "technical" details too, no other way around it
(trilema) diana_coman: !!up runsegshet
(trilema) diana_coman: read the s.mg category on trilema re eulora
(trilema) diana_coman: but yes: you need to read and figure out whether it works for you or not, no escape there
(trilema) diana_coman: how do you figure one is digital and the other one electronic? one is gold, the other one copper?
(trilema) diana_coman: runsegshet, moreover, I suppose as an easy/quick solution you could even simply transfer your bitcoin into ECu in Eulora - I guess it is the lowest effort option to keep and even use btc at this moment; e.g. http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=Ecu
(trilema) diana_coman: runsegshet, ^
(trilema) diana_coman: even better: start by registering a key in any case
(trilema) diana_coman: !!key runsegshet
(trilema) diana_coman: !!up runsegshet
(trilema) diana_coman: runsegshet, so learn; run your own node keeping your bitcoin; start perhaps from http://thebitcoin.foundation/trb-howto.html
(trilema) diana_coman: runsegshet getting robbed is a personal thing so nobody can answer that for you other than yourself; as to hoping and the more general case: ditch hope, take action;
(trilema) diana_coman: prolly all dead/retired by now
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu> romania's computer independence program huh. <- most of the old profs at UPB that I still got to know had worked on some parts of that from what I gathered
(trilema) diana_coman: don't tell me it's java now...
(trilema) diana_coman: o.O ; there used to be giumale's programare functionala - quite an eye opener that course
(trilema) diana_coman: oh hi spyked ; are you still at UPB?
(trilema) diana_coman: my understanding is that asciilifeform talks basically of those who are too old to keep up, pretty much
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, the sane-but-humble folx you speak of simply ask nicely and humbly someone who knows better and gather around those rather than "being pushed away"
(trilema) diana_coman: just nothing to do with curing anyone in itself, that's all
(trilema) diana_coman: certainly worth doing
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, fwiw I have yet to see even 1 single person cured of their stupidity by the existence of sanity in the world
(trilema) diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-18#1699750 <- possibly at the "advanced" level /stream if that even exists
(trilema) diana_coman: diffed it and it seems to be same as PeterL's
(trilema) diana_coman: ugh, flu is sort of running its whole course
(trilema) diana_coman: eh mircea_popescu, you're using big words to seem important; wealth? long term? what are those?
(trilema) diana_coman: thank you ave1, that looks great
(trilema) diana_coman: played a bit with ffa too; maybe I get some time to add to mod6's testing of it
(trilema) diana_coman: used the pointers given by ave1 really
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, fwiw re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-06#1666713 <- finally got around to try it and I can confirm it works perfectly fine on gnat 2016 from adacore, gcc 4.9.4
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu, eh, that's history aka dead things aka things that never even existed 'cause dead, hence... old exciting is dead, on to the new exciting
(trilema) diana_coman: andreicon> not necessarily new, just a few things i haven't tried <- the not-exciting ones?
(trilema) diana_coman is looking for asciilifeform's "noshit.jpg" :p
(trilema) diana_coman: you know, I WAS thinking it sounded so much like planeshit...
(trilema) diana_coman: !!v B515549AC3C19A3367EF945A66360D8AED81117DFF7BC5BDCB573465ECD090DE
(trilema) diana_coman: !!rate andreicon 1 actively searches for more exciting things in his life
(trilema) diana_coman: quite; though youth simply does not have anything personal yet and certainly no history of its own
(trilema) diana_coman: at the extreme that means then that well, it died therefore it never existed to start with
(trilema) diana_coman: but then it got eaten; failed to adapt basically, which in one way all death is
(trilema) diana_coman: forgotten yes, undone though no
(trilema) diana_coman: things done don't get undone anyway
(trilema) diana_coman: I'm really more exploring where this goes rather than having some solid thing on it either way
(trilema) diana_coman: that much is clear re preference and all that; the retroactive part is at least...interesting if not iffy outright
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu, re core: disease/old age can eat out a person's core in more than geometrical sense; do you mean that any person who didn't die core-intact basically had no proper core to speak of?
(trilema) diana_coman: nothing to do much with colour per se
(trilema) diana_coman: maybe; the more general distinction that kind of held was southern/northern or eastern/western and moreover in the sense familiar /foreign/very foreign
(trilema) diana_coman: eh, to Italians in the South I looked...German!
(trilema) diana_coman: should have said also: gypsy *enough* - because I certainly looked "Italian" to austrians and "gypsy" or ukrainian to Russians etc
(trilema) diana_coman: yeah, meant it geometrically
(trilema) diana_coman is all of a sudden curious if she's gypsy looking
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu, myeah; thing is rust eats out core until there's nothing left but that's not to say there was just powder to start with; or in any case, not in any other sense than "it's all powder"
(trilema) diana_coman: well, I can't see how slow accumulation of concession to shit leads to anything other than "chemically bonds to it" at some point
(trilema) diana_coman: aha; have fun
(trilema) diana_coman: can be any other andreicon just the same
(trilema) diana_coman: as otherwise one can't even know it's *you* talking next time
(trilema) diana_coman: np; but consider registering a key here
(trilema) diana_coman: andreicon, what do you do for a living if you don't mind me asking?
(trilema) diana_coman: in some sense all of them are binary based too
(trilema) diana_coman: andreicon, how about gentoo?
(trilema) diana_coman: do you know that curse "may you live in interesting/exciting times"?
(trilema) diana_coman: what were you after re openbsd?
(trilema) diana_coman: ahh, I see; take it easy, it's a deep rabbit hole
(trilema) diana_coman: #trilema and thebitcoin; no #eulora yet?
(trilema) diana_coman: plenty of time around here; it's a logged chan too, so people will read when they wake up/come around
(trilema) diana_coman: sure; what brings you here?
(trilema) diana_coman: lol; andreicon nu, ci iti atrag atentia ca in esenta aici inca nu existi
(trilema) diana_coman: !!key andreicon
(trilema) diana_coman: mod6, thanks!
(trilema) diana_coman: " luxury preschool " lmao
(trilema) diana_coman: eh, Sunday service, whaddayawant
(trilema) diana_coman: no more js? lol
(trilema) diana_coman: !!up mp-en-managua
(trilema) diana_coman: !!up js-of-mp
(trilema) diana_coman: sure, what of it; all of them were L-whatevers
(trilema) diana_coman: at asciilifeform's link it even says it might have been his wife, not his daughter - so maybe it was more of a consolation/precisely the dedication thing I was saying earlier: too busy to fuck, I wrote this book
(trilema) diana_coman: sure; just that you don't claim *in writing* that it didn't work, lel
(trilema) diana_coman: ahahah asciilifeform might have it; maybe not ugly but barren
(trilema) diana_coman: I really think you are reading too much into it; the way I see the thing it's basically a dedication; inept like all dedications if analysed but wtf is there to analyse in the first place
(trilema) diana_coman: that's the thing: she had value, not to be wasted /given away to any bum who s/he fell like fucking on the day
(trilema) diana_coman: I can't say I studied the time+culture of the guy to know, perhaps mircea_popescu knows better what he is talking about; it sounds really highly unlikely to me that it was the case that woman could just go and fuck, hurray, but whatevers
(trilema) diana_coman: I kind of doubt the story is *true* as such, so there is that
(trilema) diana_coman: honour deaths and all that are not anglo-thing
(trilema) diana_coman: ugh, in the right conditions though, not exactly in all cases
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu, this idea that go fuck woman of centuries ago and get yourself pregnant and oh, no worries,what
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, indeed
(trilema) diana_coman: I suspect every hole in knowledge (and not only that) might look like... insanity to those who ...simply have a better plug; not even a full plug, just better
(trilema) diana_coman: so if they were impressed it follows it wasn't normal? lolz
(trilema) diana_coman: uhm, the doctor story is weird re impressed but maybe that was the point of the visit for all I know
(trilema) diana_coman: leftover care - becomes active at last minute
(trilema) diana_coman: now if you care about that when you die that is indeed too much, lol
(trilema) diana_coman: might as well say people who cared.
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu, now that makes me curious just how much is too much and how much is perfectly fine and how much is too little
(trilema) diana_coman: ah, looking around Europe as it were
(trilema) diana_coman: Framedragger, where are you moving to?
(trilema) diana_coman: by old people I mean born around 1920
(trilema) diana_coman: so maybe more a sign of degradation rather than anything else (and yes, when I went into academia initially it was based on what I knew from those old people - the shock/unpleasant surprise was quite huge)
(trilema) diana_coman: the only trouble with the emerging image of academia as "the land of how opressed" is the fact that...I knew some old real academics too; and they...had fun; also! lol
(trilema) diana_coman: and yeah, no idea re Americans exactly - my interactions were mainly with Europeans and I'd say biased towards Eastern Europe too
(trilema) diana_coman: I did notice some difference at old veterans of both wars - not really much talk of fun exactly but certainly not that impressed with death either
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