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mircea_popescu: and i suppose the evident similarity between dirac delta and "whichever unnamed abstractions you support your estimation of string theory" is also striking to you ?
mircea_popescu: (schwartz above is laurent schwartz, provided an elegant translation of the non-functional nature of dirac's delta by using distribution limits to model it)
asciilifeform: the difference is also imho obvious
mircea_popescu: what's it ?
asciilifeform: ( the string orchestra not only dun give a flying fuck re parsimony, but quite the opposite , complexity cancer deliberately cultured, breeds grantolade for mediocrities )
mircea_popescu: but this is a political consideration.
mircea_popescu: should be applied against people not against things.
asciilifeform: there is no separability of the political.
mircea_popescu: there is in this sense. if "alcohol" "leads people into sin", then those led into sin are to be hanged ; but alcohol not condemned.
asciilifeform: i am not convinced of there being involvement of 'things' : strings have not even the reality anchor of phlogiston.
asciilifeform: are ~= 'privilegism'
mircea_popescu: they're abstract things
asciilifeform: unanchored abstractions, like in schizo patient.
mircea_popescu: but those are also still things.
mircea_popescu: not concrete in any sense ; and not meaningful either, but still.
asciilifeform: and unlike in schizo patient, crafted with clear political angle.
mircea_popescu: "things that i can fuck", "things that i can understand", "things i can talk about". many kinds of things.
asciilifeform: there is also 'things that, if loaded into a head, make it stupider'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dirac's delta, aslo crafted with clear political angle : to exclude non-diracians from so-and-so set of benches.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i put it to you, that if such a thing should exist, the head is at fault not the thing.
mircea_popescu: do also there exist "bad data" known by that fact that "if put into computer, break it" ? fix the fucking code.
mircea_popescu: obscenity laws, banned books, political correctness, antivirus corps etc are all the sorry product of the contrary view.
asciilifeform: the basic sin in strings is same as in microshit and elsewhere: rejection of parsimony
asciilifeform: that way lies daemonology and nothing else.
mircea_popescu: so you'll settle on "dirac's delta visibly parsimonious ; string theory not so visibly if at all" ?
mircea_popescu: makes sense.
asciilifeform: at least was obvious attempt. at parsimony.
mircea_popescu: i suppose this actually enacts a fundamental of "parsimony" in estimation of all ideal objects.
mircea_popescu: "do it or else alf won't like it and mp won't defend you and what else is there for you."
asciilifeform: 'do it or you ain't even thinking, but fermenting'
mircea_popescu: that also.
mircea_popescu: very literally true, too. the act of fermentation as a thermodynamic process is correctly modelled as an increase in entropy ie exactly "that way lies demonology"
mircea_popescu: system becomes more complex over time at a steady rate based on temperature / gates' worthless money input.
mircea_popescu: exaclty as per the above "ants doing mango pulp powered research"
asciilifeform: they're crankin' out LPUs, wat
asciilifeform: troo hardworkers, candidates for tenure.
mircea_popescu: indisputably.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : each and everyone politician abscam put in jail (bout 30 or so) were... democrats. the party of corruption survived!
deedbot: << Trilema - Prince of the City
mircea_popescu: aand in yet more lulz : cancer incidence increased in us adolescents by a steady 0.5 - 0.6% per year, each year, since 1975.
BingoBoingo: Oh, qntra seems not up from here
diana_coman: seems down from here too fwiw
trinque: dns error on my end. IP up?
shinohai: I can't reach qntra either, get SERVFAIL reply
lobbes: DNS error on my end as well
a111: Logged on 2017-09-25 15:41 BingoBoingo: Oh, qntra seems not up from here
a111: Logged on 2017-09-14 21:30 mircea_popescu: << much chance of survival, seeing how a state of necessity was just declared, and absent servers there's no digital.
mircea_popescu: as they say back at teh idle ranch, "it's only been ten days, what, that's not even two weeks (tm)!!!"
asciilifeform: dulap is up, fwiw
a111: Logged on 2017-09-24 16:41 mircea_popescu: in other lulz, CAN YOU FUCKING BELIEVE phuctor is still on ?
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz : google spent a quarter billion dollars worth of its govt's printouts on "corporate diversity". the results are not exactly zero
mircea_popescu: in the sense that apparently there's less black chix coding at google now than before.
mircea_popescu: (tl;dr : nigger jew faggots at google conspired to hinder anyone not of nigger jew faggot political persuasions.)
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz from elaine ou : "ripple", which apparently is an entity that scammed wall street "investors" out of 55mn "investment" managed to write "R3" which is a sort of nothing in particular an XRP option worth supposedly a billion (admitting ripple the fake coin is worth anything) and while they can't back out of it, there's legal wrangling lulz :
shinohai: It will soar in value to a whole 25 cents per!!!!!
asciilifeform: << well yes same place, hence oddity
a111: Logged on 2017-09-25 16:40 mircea_popescu: << same place, you realise.
asciilifeform: re qntra, i get a ERR_NAME_RESOLUTION_FAILED -- which is not consistent with the 'box finally thrown out' picture
mircea_popescu: yes if the local zone is deleted.
mircea_popescu: was ; dun respond
mircea_popescu shall bbl.
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 3914.98, vol: 13514.60247765 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 3908.7, vol: 37620.46954242 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 3805.2, vol: 1318.80590000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 3913.6, vol: 4258.15951396 | Volume-weighted last average: 3908.15761558
trinque: but the chicoms banned bitcoin?
a111: Logged on 2017-09-24 22:51 trinque: << tests so far look great ; awaiting the full 1gb and then I'll publish results.
BingoBoingo: !!up cruciform
deedbot: cruciform voiced for 30 minutes.
cruciform: hi! I'm having trouble self-voicing with deedbot
cruciform: I've registered my key, but it won't let me !!up
trinque: !!rate cruciform 1 New blood.
trinque: !!v 81E30B82ECBDFE45C9F242FA25D0A46CA3735FEE944CA3D7450C0B4956576428
deedbot: trinque rated cruciform 1 << New blood.
trinque: !!gettrust deedbot cruciform
deedbot: L1: 0, L2: 1 by 1 connections.
cruciform: thanks!
trinque: cruciform: give it a try now.
trinque: !!down
trinque: lol, whoops.
trinque: !!down cruciform
asciilifeform: btw did i ever print the rated power consumption of a FUCKGOATS ?
asciilifeform: it's 80mA @ 5v .
asciilifeform: ( average, naturally )
asciilifeform: in practice, this means that an unpowered usb hub should be able to support 6 of'em without problems.
mod6: that's what you use to test in parallel right?
asciilifeform: mod6: i typically use powered hubs
asciilifeform: one of the items i am currently working on is a fully-automatic FG tester
asciilifeform: at the moment, the process is only semi-automatic.
asciilifeform: linux kernel ( all the varieties i've tried ) seems to have a serious ( and wholly undocumented ) problem with > 7 serial devices .
asciilifeform: transfer rate on 8th and above, slows to a kB/s or so
asciilifeform: ( where the buffered bits go -- devil only knows )
mod6: <+asciilifeform> one of the items i am currently working on is a fully-automatic FG tester << ahh cool.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> transfer rate on 8th and above, slows to a kB/s or so << ugh.
asciilifeform: mod6: the interesting bit is the -- afaik -- total absence of public discussion. because -- evidently -- Only A Terrorist (tm)(r) would use 8+ serial devices on pc.
mircea_popescu: who would you expect to use 8+, the usual appletard/tablethead/who exactly ?
mircea_popescu: i expect more people complain of the chip color than of this.
asciilifeform: appletard has problem even with 1 serialport
mircea_popescu: so to him this seems heaven
asciilifeform: ( iirc somebody here tried )
mircea_popescu now trying guatemala's ron (colonial).
mircea_popescu: tis exactly as i recall it from the mid 2000s.
asciilifeform: the part i find interesting is that it is -- apparently -- impossible to use a current pc in the way, e.g., pdp11 was used - as box with two dozen + serial ttys hanging off
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform pretty sure you could sit down a multi-usb hub unit in the card slot
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it dun work at rated speed
asciilifeform: regardless of where you put the ports
asciilifeform: kernel issue
mircea_popescu: haven't trierd
asciilifeform: i have a 9-port pcie card, same thing
asciilifeform: iron serial ports apparently count towards the total
asciilifeform: (not a usb-specific thing)
asciilifeform: likely some idiocy in the interrupt handlers
trinque: ^ wd
cruciform: long time Windows derper - getting there!
mircea_popescu: at any rate, if anyone cares : centenario anejo 25 yo (costa rica) > diplomatico r. exclusiva (venezuela) > colonial artesanal (guatemala) > centenario run of the bar > flor de cana (nicaragua).
mircea_popescu: cruciform how did you end up here ?
cruciform: I've been reading the logs+your guys' blogs
shinohai: Is mircea_popescu sampling rums of CA ?
mircea_popescu: shinohai aha.
mircea_popescu: cruciform so what do you do ?
shinohai tried some Colonial Artesanal in Guatemala .....
cruciform: I look at cards and hope they're good
mircea_popescu: the one with the leather corset for the bottleneck for some unknown reason ?
mircea_popescu: cruciform where, like in macau ?
cruciform: nah, Macau games have been bad for a while - London and LA, mostly
shinohai: Yes mircea_popescu .... when one finishes the bottle lovely Guatemalan maidens tie it to your dick and ride .... xD
cruciform: but I've been busy up until recently with the whole BCH nonsense
cruciform: next up is transferring my BTC to some sane paper wallet solution - I've been using Armory thus far
ben_vulpes: cruciform: didja catch the armory fail?
asciilifeform: London and LA << you wouldn't by any chance know the fella in old thread, ?
a111: Logged on 2017-09-01 21:41 Barbarossa_: I'm a professsional poker player from the UK
cruciform: and after the SSS botching, I need to change the setup
mircea_popescu: every step of the way huh.
cruciform: yea, that's me
asciilifeform: cruciform == Barbarossa_ ?
cruciform: I read Pete's guide to
cruciform: but I'm not qualified to audit the code of that site
asciilifeform: i'm partial to well-made electric rng
cruciform: I'll be ordering a FG soon; got some casino dice for now
cruciform: it's just that is a black box to me
mircea_popescu: lol soon eh ?
asciilifeform: running crypto routines via browser is monumentally dumb idea
cruciform: well, I'd like to get my BTC out of Armory ASAP
asciilifeform: every time you visit a www pg, potentially you get something new.
cruciform: gotcha, so how should one convert his entropy to BTC private keys?
mircea_popescu: i imagine the idea with browser stuff is you just save the javascript. as close to "compile locally, fucktard" as the redditard generation can possibly get -- guaranteed success through a browser-compiler of approximately-integer language.
shinohai: SoldierOfFortune: plox to fix your connection or get a bnc
mircea_popescu: eh actually, why bother.
shinohai: Well more than one way to skin a cat
asciilifeform chopped down an oak with an ordinary ax today, and inescapably thought of BingoBoingo's wurk
mircea_popescu: ropes and errything ?
asciilifeform: was maybe 6 m. tall, no rope
asciilifeform: but oughta have done it back when it was a wire cutter job
asciilifeform: there is some sort of moral here.
mircea_popescu: oak, you know, 6m AROUND.
asciilifeform: we have one of those. from it, the 'weeds' grow.
mircea_popescu: oak encounter is actually how a lot of pine lumberjacks get fucked
mircea_popescu: apparently it "doesn't fall correctly" or somesuch
asciilifeform: and i finally can picture how
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> oak encounter is actually how a lot of pine lumberjacks get fucked << And collects dead limbs in canopy!
asciilifeform: even based on this scale model
asciilifeform: it has strong fibres, they sorta bend, it breaks not in the expected spot
BingoBoingo: tis a good property for reflecting cannonshot
shinohai: Looks like the Weiner gets 21 months in a chastity cage.
BingoBoingo: Huma Abedin's husband
ben_vulpes: "I wanted to see if he was still up to his old tricks"
BingoBoingo: "Cote acknowledged those efforts in her sentencing remarks. Still, she said, it was important to use his case as a deterrent to other would-be child abusers."
ben_vulpes: i'm still waiting for the case where the sting agent claims to be 18 but then the dood gets locked up because he never checked her id or some shit and the agent was really playing a fifteen year old who was just pretending to be an eighteen year old
mircea_popescu: it's... coming.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: That's all of them
mircea_popescu: !#s ro15-4513
mircea_popescu: hm. i thought surely we did the "Secret alcohol antidote" thing.
mircea_popescu: after all, what other basis in fact is there for all the "one weird trick they don't want you to know" / "the gubmint is supressing the water car" etc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we did
asciilifeform: it was a yarchive thread
a111: Logged on 2015-04-06 01:34 asciilifeform: 'palcohol' << anyone remember when they banned the etoh antidote ?
asciilifeform: 'Roche never commercialized this drug due to ethical & liability concerns. It would be useful in emergency room settings where physicians neede to communicate with intoxicated accident victims. But there was too much concern about it getting diverted to become a 'party drug.''
mircea_popescu: the whole "can't prosecute me for drunk driving, i popped a magic pill" angle was just too much to swallow
asciilifeform: the 'gotta prosecute for impairment, regardless of whether from drink or not sleeping, rather than litmus' was evidently too much to puritanswallow
asciilifeform: ( recall also mircea_popescu's article re the fat train riders . )
mircea_popescu: they demand their exam papers to cheat for god dang it!
asciilifeform: ftr, 'No, they don't have ads in the subway going "fat women are an insult to society", no they don't have steel bars at the entryways to make it impossible for the overweight to get in and bother people. Instead, they derp about "manspreading". Why this and not that ? Because while they are both intentional actions of responsible agents, the decision of the man to stretch is right there, whereas the decision of the woman to overeat
asciilifeform: is one step removed. That's all. That's the way the nazist state works...'
asciilifeform: !#s felonious fortification
a111: 3 results for "felonious fortification",
asciilifeform: ^ fans of al schwartz will recognize
a111: Logged on 2017-06-17 17:35 asciilifeform: elsewhere in uncleal, 'The FDA screamed "felonious fortification" when makers of cheap fortified wines wanted to add thiamine to prevent alcoholic neuropathy caused by thiamine malabsorption.'
asciilifeform: and re dulap : ( sha512: 886a750d8c1bc8a4e254824a267a407e651e31dce62aa29e2c85c07dfd6e25921671742d6c775df5ea2d065068d579a7e5922b4c36b0d263a7972afc10194164 )
asciilifeform: ^ latest.
asciilifeform: ^ not massively different from prev snapshot, but here it is.
mircea_popescu: more different now than a second before, apparently it didn't have elaine ou's pgp eithyer, notwithstanding it's on mit sks
asciilifeform: is it rsa key ??
asciilifeform: nm found
mircea_popescu: was just fishing it out lol
mircea_popescu: it'll be sad indeed once phuctor goes away, currently serves as gazette of record of rsa pubkeys.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: post the sks link plox
asciilifeform: i'm rather curious re why it was not snarfed
mircea_popescu: possibly because may 2016 creation
mircea_popescu: iirc we only ran it in 2015ish
asciilifeform: that'd do it.
asciilifeform: apr 2016 latest actually
mircea_popescu: ah. month off huh. well then
asciilifeform at one point put in some sweat to make a real-time sks feeding thing, but junked it when found that it requires ASSENT on peering ends to work
mircea_popescu: i rtecall the whiole convo
asciilifeform: aha, in the l0gz somewhere.
mircea_popescu: !~later tell valentinbuza plox no more join/part spam.
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: damn this cigar is a fucking great smoke.
cruciform: what is it? I enjoyed a Romeo+Juliet last week
mircea_popescu: presentation suggestion : one montecristo, aside one part fresh milk to one part centenario cafe (coffee liqueur in rum spirits, fucking fabulous).
mircea_popescu: movie about inept us revolutionaries of the 40s optional.
mircea_popescu: (daniel, lumet movie, about these "isaacson" couple and their spawn, a sort of rosenberg lite)
BingoBoingo: In classic Trilemas of the re-readings
mircea_popescu: great one huh.
BingoBoingo: Prolly the Trilema movie review which most comprehensively summarizes the context of the film
mircea_popescu: goes great with ; tho i expect you need an expert to spot the dialated pupils.
mircea_popescu: who else can take a flash to the eyelid like that, but the teen slut.
BingoBoingo: Well, practice and timeliness
asciilifeform: << meanwhile in brittardia >> 'As part of their enquiries, detectives seized Rabbani’s mobile phone and laptop for the purpose of examining it, but Rabbani repeatedly refused to provide passwords for the devices to officers. ... Subsequently, the officers arrested him on suspicion of wilfully obstructing or seeking to frustrate an examination or search under Schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act 2000 ... He was t
asciilifeform: oday sentenced to 12 months’ conditional discharge and ordered to pay a £620 fine'
mircea_popescu: eh, uk african lulz. who cares really ?
asciilifeform: iirc there are l1 folx, even, still there.
asciilifeform: ( and possibly whoever thinks 'i'll connect via heathrow'. badidea. )
mircea_popescu: i imagine the day is not far removed in the future where idiostani residence is absolute bar to l1.
mircea_popescu: for that matter, sitting on ass during natural disaster is just as much absolute bar to l1.
asciilifeform: natural disaster ?
mircea_popescu: but in other lulz : i idly considered checking out jamaica for a week or so. a) THERE IS NO BOAT SERVICE. fucking period. can you believe this inept shit ?! and b) idjits wanna connect through... miami. atlanta. FUCKING NEW YORK, someone actyually said this to me with a straight face, "sure, flight is 10 hours, sjo to la guardia and la guardia to kin".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ; i dunno how oft i'll have to repeat this, but, comparatively, katrina was a minor concern.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-14 21:30 mircea_popescu: << much chance of survival, seeing how a state of necessity was just declared, and absent servers there's no digital.
mircea_popescu: how exactly am i going to go "hey, he did nothing during state of necessity, but still should be in l1". because why the fuck ?
asciilifeform: normally i think of word 'natural' as something else.
mircea_popescu: let him move over to #hplusplus or wherever the fucktards gather to do nothing self-importantly.
asciilifeform: that there's enemy fire
mircea_popescu: stupidity is natural.
asciilifeform: 'where were you in june of 41' (tm)(r)
mircea_popescu: quite fuckign exactly.
mircea_popescu: except, of course, this is more like a levy. "oh i know, i'll argue with mp about building levies in 2015, as if that's fucking permissible now, arguing with mp ; and then in 2016 and then whoops, the obvious natural occurence took us by total suprise!!11"
asciilifeform: iirc in '15 the 'hosters are all shit for the same reason as miners, they are -ev to operate without scammitude, so change'em like condoms' school of thought was still strong.
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: brb, sobertime
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform twas nonsense then as now.
mircea_popescu: (for the curious, teeny slut above is from which is part of a larger likbez on economics that i'm rather proud of)
asciilifeform honing his ro-fu, reads...
asciilifeform: in other lulz, "GET /faq HTTP/1.1" 200 8124 ""
mircea_popescu: dojos now ?
mircea_popescu: they're never going to run out of other people's words to try and steal and sell, are they.
mircea_popescu: fucking hot topic, "and THIS is a pirate" "no, it's not" "19.95"
asciilifeform: pretty sure they've by nao stolen every single word in anglodictionary, up to 5 letters an' counting
mircea_popescu: kek what is that in the background, rocket launchers ?
asciilifeform: do we know who was this maker
mircea_popescu: i vaguely recall tshirts being made at points
mod6: no idea, it's been around for a while tho...
mircea_popescu: tho tbh i'd prefer it modeled on tits.
asciilifeform: oh hey hey hey lbj!!
mod6: i like the mpex shirt too hehe. but aha, tits would be sweet.
mod6: MPEx = ( . Y . )
mod6: or something
asciilifeform: btw ain't it riotously scandalous that the dieharder d00d never showed up here ?
asciilifeform: i and iirc a few other folx -- wrote
mod6: yeah, would have been proper.
mircea_popescu: this "i'm more important than the world" is the easiest delusion.
mircea_popescu: they're by their nature sweet, but this one's like truffles to the pigs.
asciilifeform: trinque: updated FG www with link to your review.
asciilifeform: this makes 3 .
trinque: cheers
mod6: nice trinque
asciilifeform: i'm still waiting to hear of somebody other than myself, doing the yoke test
asciilifeform: because -- unsurprise, i hope -- if yer FUCKGOATS were replaced with an identical-looking ftmeadegoats en route, it would pass (perhaps even 'prettier') the dh, ent, etc tests, as the original
asciilifeform: even after being lethally boobytrapped.
asciilifeform: another suggested experiment for FG owners is .
a111: Logged on 2017-08-24 17:16 asciilifeform: btw you can make this right now by attaching 2 hg tilt switches to a fg , 1 on each end ( b/w the middle and the +v pins )
asciilifeform: ^ incidentally : if you can get hall-effect switches, these will work even better ( the important thing is for whatever switch to be 'bounce-less', contact-bouncing creates predictable, in theory, temporal patterns )
asciilifeform: ( back to yoke test -- it is somewhat tricky, you need ~very~ good cabling, and very short, for the clocks to sync properly )
asciilifeform: FG-II rng will prolly have 4 pins, 1 for shifter pulse, to make yoking ultra-easy at ~0 cost.
asciilifeform: ANOTHER useful advice to every fg owner is to verify that the cpld shitstream in yer unit, is in fact == to the one asciilifeform signed.
mod6: asciilifeform: so far, i've only gone to the extent of unplugging both RNG-TWs and ensuring that the SAD lamp does what it should.
asciilifeform: i'd be surprised if anybody's, at this early point, isn't... but this is by far the cheapest and easiest method for enemy to tamper, and leaves 0 physical trace
mircea_popescu: "Chi square distribution for 1048576000 samples is 217.95, and randomly would exceed this value 95.52 percent of the times."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in the torture room , i get a pretty flat distrib of chisqr values
mod6: that's in the 'suspect' range no?
mircea_popescu: wtf is this
mircea_popescu: Monte Carlo value for Pi is 3.141491330 (error 0.00 percent).
asciilifeform: i see 5 ... 95 range approx. flatly.
mircea_popescu: !~calc (3.141491330 - pi)/pi * 100
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: (3.141491330 - pi)/pi * 100 = -0.0032252300334771494
mircea_popescu: !~calc pi
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: pi = 3.141592653589793
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: technically the idjit util is right tho, it's below 0.01% err
mod6 checks his results
mircea_popescu: counterintuitvely, the 4th decimal of pi should be within a 100th of a 100th
a111: Logged on 2017-05-23 01:04 asciilifeform: asciilifeform used 'dieharder' to reject a handful of screamingly defective analogue units , but currently isn't sure that it's good for much re a ~working~ one
mod6: I had one result that was 10%, the rest 25%-50% :
mircea_popescu: anyway, item seems fine.
asciilifeform: it chronically bothers asciilifeform , that there is actually nothing to compare fg to
asciilifeform: unlike literally every other instrument i have
mircea_popescu: heh. count your blessings.
mircea_popescu: and in other epic pix : check out the lt checking out the ukr slut while she's going "omfg, are there more coming still ? this will be a long night."
mod6: get your wienerschnitzels ready
deedbot: eo voiced for 30 minutes.
eo: hullo
mircea_popescu: !!register your key ftr.
deedbot: 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452 is already registered as mircea_popescu.
mircea_popescu: then ill rate you and you'll be able to self-voice.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform chick came by in march and then a few days ago, my records show, none of you hardasses thought to up her.
asciilifeform: ain't n00bz supposed to pm somebody an' ask ?
mircea_popescu: i suppose.
mircea_popescu: eo so what do you know of teh republic ?
eo: @mircea_popescu only what i read in your blog posts
mircea_popescu: i see. soo... wanna argue about anything ?
eo: that's tough. i'm only here because i already agree with most of your content.
mircea_popescu: weird, we dun generally find much fault with yours, notwitstanding in theory we should!
mircea_popescu: !!up elaineo
deedbot: elaineo voiced for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, vex writes in, in au, with : 'One of the country's top universities has warned maths students not to use the term 'marriage' when referring to a well-known theorem because the word may cause 'offence.''
mircea_popescu: why would anyone stick around after that is incomprehensible.
danielpbarron: !!key cruciform
jhvh1: danielpbarron: The operation succeeded.
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: << Anyone know a place to plop one of these outside NATO near transit cable to make datacenter?
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Prefab strip mall has shorter walk to coffee shop, provided a coffee data tenant rents space
ben_vulpes: it is a sad truth that all data centers i have been in have sadder coffee production facilities than even starbucks.
ben_vulpes: also use windows. also in usshitistan.
BingoBoingo: Really [coffee shop][datacenter (studio apartment carveout)][scooter dealer] is imagined layout
BingoBoingo: for the moment
BingoBoingo: If locale has enough people who feel entitled to protective road cage to justify 4-wheel dealership, locale prolly sucks for building building
ben_vulpes: under that analysis, should probably do fork/heavy equipment/rental+dealership instead of scooter dealership
BingoBoingo: Nah, the customers there are demanding and suspicious. Not to mention keeps existential threats to datacenter too close.
ben_vulpes: existential threats, yes, but in their docile state!
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Few have meaningful locks on them. Only docile because passerby have anxiety about starting up unattented equipment.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, it's hard to meaningfully lock a door when excavator sleeps within 100 yards of door. Doesn't leave much time to take position with anti-materiel rifle before it closes range
ben_vulpes: lol ok ok
BingoBoingo: While scooters produce delicious 2-stroke exhaust and help the pobre commute within their substantial means
ben_vulpes: not like it would be hard to wire keypads into them if they still don't have meaningful locks.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Most heavy equipment starts by holding hidden button while pressing "start button", Or turning key shapped ignition switch while holding hidden button
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: asciilifeform's father's auto in ye olde su, had one of these
asciilifeform: 'seekrit' starter-enbl button
asciilifeform: to this day i have nfi wtf was the point
asciilifeform: iirc it had to be clicked a magic # of times, or rhythm, or somesuch
mod6: lot of the bobcats i've seen recently have a 10-key pad to enter a code before it can be started.
asciilifeform: ritualistic voodoo-hoodoo-hex against thieves
mod6: older ones though...
mod6: lol
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