asciilifeform: (short of chimeras in the vein of 'prolog' where anything you cook up is likely to be asking machine np-complete questions)
asciilifeform: requiring everyone to drop everything and 'get into compliance'
asciilifeform: fuck centrally imposed 'practices'
asciilifeform: i was genuinely floored when learned for the fist time that there are folks using a computer who have never so much as vaguely heard of it
asciilifeform: because ken thompson
asciilifeform: nubbins`: but to imply that everyone who is not in your position is necessarily a spendthrift who would be a winner but for the 'fatlogic' - is disingenuous
asciilifeform: but nubbins` is implying that rocket is unnecessary if iron will
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: simpler than that.
ascii_field: danielpbarron: but a random person off the street cannot enter that world simply by asking.
ascii_field: danielpbarron: yes! they have. by being part of social networks that are empire-in-empire
ascii_field: and picture what happens if someone who grew up with virtually no social skills were to attempt to find a way into world of 'snatch' (much less actually work there)
ascii_field: point was trying to make was that mass economics (e.g. weed) are not applicable to ultra-niche affair where there are maybe three people in a continent who can even begin to attempt $task
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: simple triangulation
ascii_field: but i for one can more easily comprehend how to move to ar and learn to be a shoemaker or ocelot-walker or whatever, than turning into one of the above
ascii_field: not saying that this is an impossible problem to solve
ascii_field: employer
ascii_field: at the risk of repeating myself, my rent, for example, is ~2k/mo, and not under any circumstances payable in cash
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and then when we start hiring, we hire slaves, like anyone hiring << simply wanted to point out that all of the #b-a projects (with possible exception of kakobrekla's work) are powered a hundred percent by the fiat economy's surplus - that is, free hours of various folks involved - and to some extent are at the mercy of their day job fortunes (see, e.g., the demise of moiety)
ascii_field: danielpbarron: the netbsd kernel and userland are sufficiently compact (vs linux) to make this a worthwhile exercise
ascii_field: danielpbarron: see if you are able to set up the cross-compile system (netbsd carries its own) on your box
asciilifeform dares to make the observation that more competent folks would turn out for these jobs if there was a possibility they might be able to live off such
asciilifeform again states for the record that the notion of running a proggy with unbounded memory consumption is a laugh
asciilifeform: or simply doesn't feel like making his humiliation public
asciilifeform: chetty: more complicated. ploy to stave off genuine voice channel crypto indefinitely through 'aha see they foiled usg plot, go back to using traditional phone'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://www.aholme.co.uk/Mk1/Architecture.htm << example of modern discrete logic machine. (there are many. common amateur project. but, afaik, nothing remotely large enough for, e.g., a bitcoin node.)
asciilifeform: but one could argue that at a certain point it is an irresistible temptation to the sc4mz0rz, rather than guarantee of genuine article
ascii_field: quite a few people have not made the conceptual leap to seeing the malice behind the incompetence
ascii_field: vlad's tree stump stakes ?
ascii_field: well yes, that's how my chinese scope gets a 100MHz sampler using 20MHz chinese ADCs
ascii_field: like sampler on cheap oscope ?
ascii_field: none of the contemplated processes threaten to give you anything like '80s micro capacity
ascii_field: no, it works in the sense that the folks in control, are still amply supplied with whores and blow
ascii_field: to peddle the notion that the sim keys matter for any purpose whatsoever is either the act of a complete illiterate on the subject, or a usg stooge.
ascii_field: the press, rancid mixture of stooges and useful idiots, help to push the implication that 'now we can switch to keys that have not yet been stolen, and no more interception'
asciilifeform: which is possibly the only verdict more dire than 'np-complete'
asciilifeform: the thread-will-meet-the-arse-correctly-but-without-foreknowledge is called 'intelligence' and folks call any solution that calls for it 'ai-complete'
asciilifeform: so, as i said, very simple through-hole boards
asciilifeform: it is a fairly popular method for making small/simple pcb
asciilifeform: because i simply got tired and started to fall asleep.
asciilifeform: not compared to what i do for a living at any rate.
asciilifeform: and yes, unix is pretty good for a pdp-8, but unix is ultimately braindamaged when compared to what is possible.
asciilifeform: last thing i'll say about this for now is that it is a grave mistake to rebuild these starvation-camp machines as 'dawn of year zero.' these impossibly cramped programmable calculators are how we ended up with a braindamaged computing stack in the first place
asciilifeform: http://marc.info/?l=classiccmp&m=104957136420897&w=2 << re: z80 thread
asciilifeform: it isn't a question of 'takes longer', but of simply-never-happens
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ... making something like a z80, as long as it can be made at home, with equipment costing about what a z80 cost << absolutely. but it is important to understand that a z80 (or even intel 4004) is far, far closer to the 'pentium' than to anything that has ever been built entirely at home from discretes
asciilifeform: yep but it has twice the memory << unfortunately, not so simple. the -previous generation- of both devices cost the same and had 2x the ram. they are no longer available new anywhere i know of
asciilifeform: what kid hasn't considered ants, pheromone trail computer.
asciilifeform: that i am having them build simply to see what comes of it
asciilifeform: that it was not deemed economical to use jewelled bearing, as americans did, and the oil of a certain inedible bean (forget which) was employed as lubricant
asciilifeform: decimation: i can't help but wonder if somewhere, in a damp cellar, a kid is studying 'JOVIAL'
asciilifeform: for which the chumps, yes, pay
asciilifeform: none of the items that comprise most of the expense have changed since day one.
asciilifeform: can someone dredge up mircea_popescu's old article which mentioned the imperative to use nonstandard computing arrangements to frustrate 'one size fits all' usg idiocies ?
asciilifeform: 'Blocks will be stored on disk out of order (in the order they are received, really), which makes it incompatible with some tools or other programs. Reindexing using earlier versions will also not work anymore as a result of this. The block index database will now hold headers for which no block is stored on disk, which earlier versions wont support.'
asciilifeform: mike_c: worse than this. 1) i'm paying 2) not getting terribly much, have ~5mil keys that have not been dumped in on account of - elementarily - lack of cpu
asciilifeform: i would also like it to be a fucking -actual computer-
asciilifeform: and wtf, actual computers are extinct or what
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: i'm simply used to seeing that phrase as shorthand for 'it's ok for me to utterly fuck this up, right, because results couldn't possibly be important, aha?'
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: he had another book where computing happened by specially trained singers belting out gregorian-style chants
asciilifeform: but in practice, it has. i have a $$$$$ fpga board gathering dust because realized that it is impossible to implement ddr2 controller (and drive any available memory of reasonable density) without reversing the entire chip
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hypothetical chip fab experiment does not require new computer.
asciilifeform: PeterL: emphatically not. not 'smaller cheaper' what-they-do-now.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the folks mentioning clean rooms show symptoms of not having understood
asciilifeform: clean football-sized compartment is difficult enough in jungle conditions
asciilifeform: ranging from mere omission of the fact, certain as daylight, of it being a usg production (with no attempt whatsoever inside to disguise their characteristic turdware tradecraft, note)
asciilifeform: you can get any lisp machine ever made, for example, with a crate of parts to last you a lifetime, for half of this
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: not even the theoretical basis for contemplating such a thing, presently exists.
asciilifeform: without even having to contemplate opening the chassis, in which, as is known, daemons live
asciilifeform: of the handful of vendors whose drives i have studied personally, not one used a signature scheme of any kind, for example
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: laughers can get all the laughing gas they could wish for, yes. i often see these bottles - emptied - lying on the kerb, fallen out of upturned student house dumpsters.
asciilifeform: google has extremely questionable motives and - at this point - competence
asciilifeform: punkman: 'gnat "error: field 'info' has incomplete type" '
asciilifeform: buffer overflows, pointer fandango, etc. - are impossible
asciilifeform: (in traditional implementations)
asciilifeform: or rather, the ada component of gcc is based on the ancient usg-commissioned thing
asciilifeform: (pet peeve of mine - 'lisp' (or worse, the '60s-ism LISP) is a hopelessly nonspecific term that encompasses languages that differ from one another far more even than 'algol' differs from 'c')
asciilifeform: who wants to laugh, but there are precisely two programming languages in existence which are 1) standardized and 2) you can -actually write complete systems- using -the language described in the standard-
asciilifeform: re: gnat: 4.6.4 builds but actually attempting to use yields 'gnatgcc: fatal error: -fuse-linker-plugin, but liblto_plugin.so not found'
asciilifeform: his gas bill will be complimentary of usg
asciilifeform: qntra article << wai wat, there are/were actual companies registered in virgin islands? not merely mail boxes for sp4mz0rz ?
asciilifeform: 'The attorney for Charles Plumpp said Weisenberger arrested and jailed her client, who is African American, on the nonexistence charge of "roaming livestock."'
asciilifeform: (the stump, that is)
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: try one of the un/under-employed folks around here
asciilifeform: (and before anyone asks, no, it is not a simple matter to build it from source like any other thing. needs an existing gcc configured to play ball in order to bootstrap itself)
asciilifeform: it was utterly incomprehensible to the uninitiated.
asciilifeform: 1) the idea of tearing out 'boost' while retaining the 'satoshi cleanup' concept of therealbitcoin project - is a total impossibility
asciilifeform: yet for some odd reason these activities are lumped in together
asciilifeform: my brother, for example, had one
asciilifeform: serious work in cpp is quite impossible without something functionally much like 'boost'.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: see the problem from the perspective in which it actually -is- a problem: not that a billion people own computer that is not a computer (nowhere is it written that we have to care about this) but in the elementary lack of a practical alternative.
asciilifeform: 'but Richard is seemingly frightened about the compiler competition from LLVM that is out under a permissive free software license.' << fud artist lies through his teeth. rms is not 'frightened of competition under permissive licenses', but is pointing out that organized attack by shitgnomes flying (as always) flags of convenience, is under way.
asciilifeform: ^ this fact became popularly known on account of the joe stack rampage
asciilifeform: in the 90 most computer guy were freelancer << not in usa...
asciilifeform: sorta how medical practice 'could be simple' if pharmacy stocked just cyanide (wagner optional)
asciilifeform: if they all moved to the actual detroit, the chump harvester would simply move with them
asciilifeform: the biggest tax, by far, is the real estate chumpamatic
asciilifeform: tale was re: usa rather than mpex, aha
asciilifeform: because it is generally understood that whatever one gets will be 'homeopathic' quantity after umpteen rounds of dilution
asciilifeform: re: tiny equities: as i understand, scarcely anyone even gets a fixed % of a company now
asciilifeform: decimation: they were 'working for nothing' long ago, by way of giving up most of their salary to the local real estate chumpatron as a mandatory matter
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: on the subject of 'gimp'-like proggys with terrifyingly layered menus - this is a well-known plague and there is no, afaik, ready pill for it.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: like gimp ?
asciilifeform: apple's compiler ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: replace with your compiler
asciilifeform: http://www.ivy-style.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/nsa3.jpg << small l0l: the ru example is atrociously off
asciilifeform: 'Try this one on for size. A man and woman are together, making out, removing clothes, getting totally naked, engaging in foreplay with both partners active, the woman mounts the man and begins rubbing her stuff on his stuff, without penetration but obviously thats the next step; and then she suddenly says Im uncomfortable doing this, and turns completely cold. Ive experienced this. I respected the No but
asciilifeform: and did i miss some political wank or other? did they have a public impalement of heretics on the washington monument, and i missed this ?
asciilifeform: 'and the the word "implant" was almost never used in security circles' << usually called 'bug' (in the 'room is bugged' sense) outside of usg
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: you can just put a blank flash drive in the top usb port with an empty directory 'revert' and the thing boots up factory default << this is not a feature of the machine, but of the modified 'uboot' installed by the script you used.
asciilifeform: decimation: hp's been branding chumpcartridges since '90s
asciilifeform: they cash in their 'brand' for chump massification
asciilifeform: old hat. east india company ran as much on the latter as the former
asciilifeform: that alone would not doom it - consider the world of usg - but the onesie-pcb-assembly business doesn't have the makings of a mass popu-chumpatron
asciilifeform: clever chumpamatic
asciilifeform: they make up the difference by nickel'n'diming the chump for the 'out of house' parts
asciilifeform: assuming the thing isn't simply a blackhole for money,
asciilifeform: i could live, for example, with an outfit that would crap out the board and place just the passives (then i xray the damn thing here. and place the actives personally)
asciilifeform: herbijudlestoids: if 'software-based' is what you want, i don't get it, you already own a computer ?
asciilifeform: decimation: also considered the nearly equally impractical ttl logic variant.
asciilifeform: decimation: their competitors are now whining, 'we want too!111!!!11'
asciilifeform will show the next attempt at a proper fix reasonably soon.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i think BingoBoingo was referring to the american usage - artist (or compulsive bathroom cleaner, see the old 'meth' thread) who stays awake for two weeks straight on 'manic episode' etc
asciilifeform: other observation is that 'ubuntu' (with the above atrocities and many others) is no more 'linux' than wintel 'is what a computer is'
asciilifeform: as in 'this one is odd and between 3 and 15 and if it ever isn't, pump in the halon
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not impossible. amex spends a pretty penny on (what passes for) spam and crapware control.
asciilifeform: they surrendered to the one and only mega-empire of the period.
asciilifeform: (either one is meant to conclude that the figure is wildly implausible - or - realize that patients are not walking off with 2m each, and therefore xxx, and xxx is not a subject that can be discussed publicly in usa while retaining credibility in the state media)
asciilifeform: the $maxints that simply vanish into the mountain of paper, where a missing $bil in the balance sheets isn't even interesting to the accountants - to the extent the sums represent real, vs. imaginary buying power -
asciilifeform: the mega-bezzle isn't simply buying carriers, it's buying countless yachts, mcmansions, etc
asciilifeform: if you want to see usg spending, visit the 'potomac' quarter of d.c. area, for example
asciilifeform: 'inca empire'
asciilifeform: pl makes a great nuke waste dump
asciilifeform: exempt folks in wot, these must face actual judgement of their peers
asciilifeform: potential Fourth Amendment Claim would have to be dismissed on the basis that any possible defenses would require impermissible disclosure of state secret information.'
asciilifeform: wake me up when it's 100mil and we all have to share an hour of computer at 4am tuesdays
asciilifeform looks around, quite possibly sees 5 usd digits of computer
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: people who actually *use* computers will have to pay 10k each << that's what, a piddling 2-3x what we presently pay ?
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: not so simple (doable, though) - it has to run from rom. you almost certainly must use 'buildroot.' i have a 'buildroot' config that grinds out a kernel and a userland, but said kernel fails to boot and produces no output to /dev/ttyS0 - despite being configured to do so. evidently the support for Marvell chips in the mainline 3.xx kernels is bogus.
asciilifeform: it certainly cannot be accomplished by twiddling the usual config. there is crud in there by the megatonne, glued in with glass.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: in essence, like most supposedly 'gpl compliant' commercial products, the compliance is a total and unabashed crock of shit.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: linux kernel and minimal userland are massive compared to netbsd
asciilifeform: i'm taking a forced break, simply have no time presently
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nope. this is a cross-compile and uses 'TOOLDIR' var.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the llvm thing, prior to career as apple crud, had a previous life as a darling plaything of u.s. 'comp sci' academitardia
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i've built perfectly usable netbsd boxes previously. but this one -has- to be a cross-compile. and live in ramdisk.
asciilifeform: question for all: has anyone, ever, built netbsd ramdisk on cross-compile build system, or knows of anyone who has done so, or knows so much as a shred of evidence that this has ever worked?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: simple experiment shows that penalizing nodes sending out-of-order blocks - does very little. as pointed out. what we want is to 'embrace & extend' the block sync process in the sense of preferring friendly nodes for sync.
asciilifeform: if actually happens, even - it's chump bait. 0.8.6 nodes that will be 'seamlessly upgrades' to gavincoin (how? easy - will lose most history, faux verification from that point on, etc.)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ah that. ^ they'll be paying (chump change, apparently) for satanic nodes.
asciilifeform: in general i agree re: 'wrestling with the pig', but i'm at a loss re: how we aren't simply wearing bull's eyes for no particular reason
asciilifeform: '...so nodes running an older protocol version will be skipped.' << phoundation's answer to us, yes. anyone contemplating kelvin versioning again ? why should enemy have this much of an easy time with rejecting our nodes?
asciilifeform: re: pogo: i have a cross-compile setup of netbsd for pogo (run on any reasonable unix) working
asciilifeform: decimation: very naked pattern of 'derp suddenly comes, with much apparent enthusiasm and piss-poor reading comprehension, interspersing hour of faux conv. with 'so why do you have any truck with bitcoin, it'll be obsolete and replaced with Modern Alternatives soon enough, and so many more interesting things around like Dark Enlightenment...'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, BingoBoingo, cazalla, other writery folks: anybody up for writing a basic likbez for the 'unified theory' of amplification attack as it applies not only to boring ddos but to gavincoin and in general to any system where some bozo can inflict cost C on you by spending c where c < C
asciilifeform: the truly interesting leaks would be the 'great mysteries' cited in http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1323 - but the boojum lies in the total impossibility of authenticating any such leak.
asciilifeform: but all the native pdp clones, their unixen, etc. were sent to the dump
asciilifeform: because on no account did anyone there remotely contemplate paying for software
asciilifeform: x sucks and no competition
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the proggy is a misery to use; works very half-heartedly anywhere other than winblows; costs $maxint; and, more direly, is not especially actively maintained. but there is nothing remotely like an alternative, not even a 'distant second', nor is anyone (afaik) remotely contemplating the idea of making one.
asciilifeform: but it's a problem, and anyone even casually involved in the field (of named example) is aware of it
ascii_modem: re: stooge squad: simple hypothesis is that the toolkit being used on us was made for others. but - for whom?
asciilifeform wishes to point out that a 'sane pgp' will not be pgp-compatible. because much of the insanity lies in the standard itself.
asciilifeform: trying to explain that it is quit impossible to have a package management system above the language level that is not dumbed down by support for braindamaged languages.
asciilifeform: parents... c compiler << obligatory: 'shall be delivered'
asciilifeform: just as there are, afaik, no confirmed reports of 'glue sniffing' prior to the media chumpamatics re: same in usa
asciilifeform: if one's principal equity is the house << depends which flavour of chumpitude one prefers
asciilifeform: natural gas is considerably cheaper, in this part of the world, than equiv. via heatpump.
asciilifeform had heat pump in old flat, about 1/3 the size of new house (gas furnace there), actually cost more to run the heat pump
asciilifeform: whether a heat pump is good economics or lunacy depends on the region
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu clearly does not live in swampland
asciilifeform: i distinctly recall that machine tools are uncommonly difficult to obtain in ar, for example
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: study the example in 'portatronic'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the ruling elite of his time/place showed every symptom of having 'lost the mandate of heaven', to use the chinese term of art tailor made for this
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: perhaps the historical picture in my head is incomplete, but i just can't grasp the portrait of orwell as cockless worm.
asciilifeform: would folks 'have the expectation that room-temp supercon will work for them' ?
asciilifeform: let's imagine that holy grail, room-temperature superconductor, were discovered tonight
asciilifeform: Cheap Smartphone Dongle Diagnoses HIV And Syphilis In 15 Minutes << sham. not in that the tech doesn't work (it does) but in that it is the ordinary single-shot immunoreactive test, but for some (chumpatronic) reason someone bolted it on to a pNohe.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: kickstarter article: ks is straight from the encyclopaedia of chumpatronic circuits, chapter 'make use of chumps directly in the machines control system.' as in 'multi-level' crapolade of every variety.
asciilifeform: (practice for weapons cache emplacement and retrieval.)
asciilifeform: http://www.universalsubtitles.org/en/videos/rcQaef4yYJyn/info/moia-masterskaia << ben_vulpes, BingoBoingo, others << my attempt at subtitling a certain memorable photo brag (not mine!). to enable the subs, click CC on bottom left hand corner (not the usual bottom right on youtube.)
asciilifeform: https://casper.berkeley.edu/astrobaki/index.php/Impedance_of_Free_Space << for folks who must have prettyprinted equations
asciilifeform: http://www.setileague.org/askdr/imped.htm << solution for electromagnetic
asciilifeform: naggum saw comp.lang.lisp as something more like a machine shop than a public square
asciilifeform: give a physical explanation, in one sentence, of why a trumpet/tube/microwave horn needs the 'bell'.
asciilifeform: computer, as we have it, does not even know how to 'say that again plz'
asciilifeform: mod6: simple algorithm: comment out the #includes
asciilifeform: so, for example, we can see what they are.
asciilifeform: let's rip out openssl in the simplest way
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was an attempt at something like tor.
asciilifeform: (you can pump in a fresh kernel with tftp)
asciilifeform: there's a complete shell in there
asciilifeform: using same crosscompiler as for everything else
asciilifeform: one ends up with a mindbogglingly-heavy ubuntu-style thing, complete with 'systemd'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: when the thing warms up, it dumps uboot ver. to the serial console
asciilifeform: followed by a similarly sized empty one
asciilifeform: ^ compression of spacetime via 'memoization'. this is more or less how one would implement toy universes.
asciilifeform: interesting idiots are sometimes (temporarily) tolerated. tedious idiots - never.
asciilifeform: if you have healthy hands, decent input devices, it is possible to do such surprising things as speaking in complete words.
asciilifeform: 'year zero' simply refers to a reset, where you forget that a given field even has a history (except as an encyclopaedia of what not to do.)
asciilifeform: when i explain to folks why i dislike programming on available systems, i sometimes use example that it is rather like being a fellow who likes gardening, but there was a thermonuclear war not long ago, and you gotta sift the soil with sapper's spade in one hand, geiger in the other, and there won't be much sunlight to be had either.
asciilifeform: 5k in modern american money is pocket change in comparison.
asciilifeform: the_scourge: the 'open' in 'opengenera' is an archaic 1980s usg-ism. it simply refers to the fact that a product features industry-standard protocols like tcp/ip and does not require you to buy the entire universe you live in from one particular vendor.
asciilifeform: a bauble pushed by unrepentantly lying chumpatronicists.
asciilifeform: writing a (demented but functional) c compiler and (very old-fashioned, to the point of braindamage) lisp interp. used to be standard homework assignments
asciilifeform: the tell-tale symptom of a programming language that does far too much behind the scenes is when its users seldom, if ever, study the implementation
asciilifeform: don't take my word for this, look at how they are implemented
asciilifeform: wasn't impressed.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 2) client companies of the state wish to be important. the market tells them to stuff it 3) government steps in... <<< see also the famous example of syntex corp. in mexico (carl djerassi!) - first mass-production of synthetic progestins, then nationalized, then gone - 'bad luck!'
asciilifeform: ^ by no means his complete works
asciilifeform used to suspect for a while, long ago, that herr dalrymple was tlp
asciilifeform: at least, unlike the 'vicarious' engineering gurlz, she did not attempt to go and... apply
asciilifeform: t. dalrymple (retired british shrink, wrote a number of hilarious books on psychology of criminals - and civ. decay overally) had a thing on this
asciilifeform: 'January 2009 Completed The Insurance Premium Reduction Program at A and J Driving School.' on a cv !?!?
asciilifeform: (whether the treadmill actually powers the computer - that ancient dream - i do not know)
asciilifeform: actual computer should be a -place-, not merely machine
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/komp.jpg << try on laptop.
asciilifeform: there is not, nor can be, a replacement for The computer.
asciilifeform: 'kindle' is not a computer! it's this entirely specialized machine, like kitchen mixer.
asciilifeform: then i walk three meters to the actual computer, lol
asciilifeform: as for the chumpatronics, i have no idea who uses.
asciilifeform: (which one is not forced to use, unlike the one in certain very early 'e-readers', but tempts sufficiently many ESL (to use mircea_popescu's term) folks to bring in a pretty penny for the vendor)
asciilifeform sometimes wonders whether that product category would exist - and what it would cost if it did - if there were not a built-in chumpatronic collector
asciilifeform: empty on account of outlandish tolls
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: surprisingly, the calculators use very well-understood, ancient components
asciilifeform: 'The Secret Service uses covert radio-frequency jammers inside a Chevrolet Suburban that travels with the presidents motorcade. These devices disable remotely triggered improvised bombs. But because they have to disable explosives set off by a potentially large number of frequencies, the jammers saturate a wide spectrum, occasionally interfering with cellphones nearby.' << this deserves an aside
asciilifeform: when some hobo successfully impersonates obama, or buffett - then.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: usg does not care (or even encourages, see earlier 'house-buying' postdoc story) about a plebe impersonating another plebe.
asciilifeform: just like the failure-to-mention-mpex discussed in mircea_popescu's article
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: otr/'forward secrecy' is simply the practice of generating an ephemeral key for a particular conversation, which is to be discarded later
asciilifeform: kanzure: zero assembly steps << hard to improve on mhd
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: inchworm drive is not necessarily implemented with piezos (though usually), nor is a piezo actuator necessarily built on inchworm principle.
asciilifeform: i'm assuming it refers to anything akin to printing, stamping, etching
asciilifeform: i don't think it gets any simpler than that
ascii_field: '(S//REL NATO) We assess that any unclassified NATO network that is directly connected to the Internet should be considered potentially compromised, creating uncertainty regarding the confidentiality, integrity and continued availability of all data on that network.' << mega-lol
ascii_field: that they defect? or simply denied to the enemy ?
ascii_field: have it dump'em
ascii_field: and from your dump, it clearly is
asciilifeform: why, then, suggest it for a computer program?
asciilifeform: except that this is an astonishingly abstruse model for what the lamp/socket do.