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(trilema) Mocky: fuck, i can't come up with a good reason not to
(trilema) Mocky: at least it's not china
(trilema) Mocky: ok, well yes
(trilema) Mocky: not fishing for compliments, just don't see how beneficial
(trilema) Mocky: lets see, never been, don't speak lang, never started a business, in what way could i actually be a good partner other than willing to go?
(trilema) Mocky: well what, that's how it sounds
(trilema) Mocky: that sounds scary as fuck, lol
(trilema) Mocky: i don't allah. i pantomimed allahing in mosques in my youff when visiting family. no arabic either
(trilema) Mocky: came a breath away from visiting Kuwait in the drivers seat of a tank, but never actually arrived. No other even near misses.
(trilema) Mocky: BingoBoingo, "to play *be* its own rulebook"
(trilema) Mocky: 'depilation treatment' lol
(trilema) Mocky: thx! will take a look
(trilema) Mocky: mircea_popescu, was there an ro trilema piece about games of either balance or catch? iirc i couldn't make heads or tail of the auto translation some months ago
(trilema) Mocky: grats on the tubers lol
(trilema) Mocky: ve been thinking of setting up bouncer sincy my connection's been so iffy past week
(trilema) Mocky: hanbot, i
(trilema) Mocky: makes me wonder if bingoboingostan is like this
(trilema) Mocky: and then on the way home traffic jam due to moped rider who not only unable to maintain 30 in a 45, but also (as seen when I finally passed him) had mirrors *taped* on, and not even with duck tape but with medical tape
(trilema) Mocky: tiny blue 'my little pony' car pulled into the spot next to me, damn these things are small. I've seen before, i suppose many times but this one even had a gnome hop out and scurry off to the market.
(trilema) Mocky: ~everyone coming though the gates is wondering where it is
(trilema) Mocky: I never saw it while there, rumored to be there tho
(trilema) Mocky was marine corps tank driver in reserves, was active duty for some months on army base
(trilema) Mocky: asciilifeform, 'i hate my job' is the internalization of the problem, opposite of questioning
(trilema) Mocky: the ones who couldn't be 'trained not to question' failed training
(trilema) Mocky: well not like a bunch of black dudes sayin 'wish my parents were white'... then some white kid would have been the son
(trilema) Mocky: pick better numbers!
(trilema) Mocky: then they will promptly take out a mortgage, lol
(trilema) Mocky: in the 90's all of the 'how to operate' tank training was in tanks and ~all the 'how to fight as effective tank platoon' was in shitty simulator. this for both army and marines. Makes me wonder about 'modern' pilot training
(trilema) Mocky: marines just get carried around by the navy, dun 'take ships'
(trilema) Mocky: I find gif quite interesting, I would not have thought to do that
(trilema) Mocky: wow, full lolcat
(trilema) Mocky: from my pov, stacking down to *any* 2 stacks is the bulk of the value. but in my mining the stacks are going to converge to q q-1 eventually. and in fact large piles of q q-1 are sitting around waiting to eat incoming small stacks
(trilema) Mocky: the fewer server roundtrips would be preferable, assuming they can be had
(trilema) Mocky: mircea_popescu, does ave1's example of stacking down to 7846x173q 1592x177q, actually violate any criteria, despite that it 'could' be stacked further, it could not be stacked down into fewer slots
(trilema) Mocky: 3 piles must contain odd,odd or even, even pair therefore stackable
(trilema) Mocky: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/0JK0r/?raw=true , elementarily, they are both odd qual...
(trilema) Mocky: asciilifeform, ave1's above is not in fact example of immiscible quantities: ave1's final state can be stacked down to q, q-1 by my algo in 2 moves
(trilema) Mocky: lolcat suggest some 'large enough' conditions, no?
(trilema) Mocky: I'm not clear on how you can backtrack piles directly though, as if they were from isolated branches, when possibly final 2 piles from mixed descent and not from isolated mixing
(trilema) Mocky: i think that it can work, i don't see how it would work better than A* if heuristic was found, but I don't see how worse either
(trilema) Mocky: other than not needing the guess the final state, I'm still trying to find a problem with it
(trilema) Mocky: size of piles are computed by solving the two equations for x and y 1) floor(A)*x + ceil(A)*y = sum(mass) 2) x + y = sum(qty)
(trilema) Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-24#1844275 >> let A = sum(mass) / sum(qty), final pile qualities will floor(A) and ceil(A)
(trilema) Mocky: well, maybe my maffs is wrong and someone can correct my work
(trilema) Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-24#1844275 >> why would you need initial guess for final 2 piles when you can compute them directly from given input?
(trilema) Mocky: ok, I see it
(trilema) Mocky: maybe i'm dense, what do you mean reduce a pile at least in half?
(trilema) Mocky: looks right, so my intuition is clearly ill informed. imma see what else I can see
(trilema) Mocky: i'm going to take a minute and verify that. but i expect you to be right, and then im gonna come back and say "ah, but i chose a bad example"
(trilema) Mocky: the 1xq1 item has a tiny mass compared to the 200 ~q1000 items, and will resolve into the q1000 pile. theres no way to mix a q1 up to q1000 using only ~q1000 items in 10 or less moves. it's just got a long way to go
(trilema) Mocky: based on intuition, which i shall explain
(trilema) Mocky: neither could it be done in 3*P. my given example I'd wager 50/50 if it could be done in 4*P
(trilema) Mocky: but looky, maybe not 20 steps exactly, but more than 2, *no question*
(trilema) Mocky: for sake of argument, possible it rejects 3/4 of worst moves
(trilema) Mocky: asciilifeform, sure but demonstrating overtight constraint in extant algo dun do either. nor does proposing A* without heuristic
(trilema) Mocky: asciilifeform, at the time, wasn't trying to confirm correctness of problem statement, was trying to deliver useful feature as described
(trilema) Mocky: i get it now
(trilema) Mocky: turns out oversimplification
(trilema) Mocky: well, i was given a somewhat different problem statement 2 months ago. more of a software requirement than problem statement actually: http://logs.minigame.biz/2018-06-10.log.html#t18:59:23
(trilema) Mocky: but i've been thinking on this, and I do think it's possible to come up with one that works in linear time
(trilema) Mocky: for example this pile of 4 requires 2 moves: 1x1q 100x1000q 100x1001q 1x2001q, while if you do it without the last pile: the remaining 3 require 20 steps
(trilema) Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-23#1843778 I initially ruled out A* for lack of admissible heuristic. maybe asciilifeform can see O(1) (or even O(n) ) heuristic to estimate remaining steps in e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-20#1525884 without ever overestimating
(trilema) Mocky: completely unknown to me
(trilema) Mocky: aha, I suspected something like this would surface
(trilema) Mocky: ok, done. thx
(trilema) Mocky: we need more angle brackts
(trilema) Mocky: oh prolly my use of angle brackts for arrows ->
(trilema) Mocky: mircea_popescu, i just added a comment to puzzler blog post but seems cut off mid way
(trilema) Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-20#1525884 ftr my algo does it in 40 steps preserving full value of 1,639,142: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/bvsMD/?raw=true
(trilema) Mocky: oh hey, i didn't have the context for that knapsack challenge when I read it in the logs, had no idea what it meant. meanwhile forgot all about it
(trilema) Mocky: cons is malloc for lisp, or is more meant by that?
(trilema) Mocky: so then do you have to contend also with e.g. linux process scheduler?
(trilema) Mocky: time i can see. space i don't see. max stack + max heap hard space bound, no?
(trilema) Mocky: asciilifeform, what's the problem with gc in this context?
(trilema) Mocky had pictured some savile row gents taking afternoon tea between lectures
(trilema) Mocky: ftr, oxford sounds pretty badass
(trilema) Mocky: comforting fairy tales? to what does that refer?
(trilema) Mocky: in '99 I and 2 others wrote a web framework in java for use in our company's products, no such published thing was extant. shortly after someone else published identical item named 'struts', not stolen merely obvious solution. I then watched the published 'struts' turn into ever bigger piles of shit year over year and suffered job interviewers probing my knowledge of 'struts' and i think that quite colored my
(trilema) Mocky: thinking on sharing code
(trilema) Mocky: not the last point
(trilema) Mocky: famous publisher of maffs and alchemy
(trilema) Mocky: some is in production and was reviews by team members, others are more toolish and have not
(trilema) Mocky: well ok then help me understand this: i have 'book of useful recipes' composed partial of code that I wrote *with* other intelligent people and partially of things that i just just wrote personally to simplify my own common tasks and found useful over a long period of time. is the latter portion 'man alone' ?
(trilema) Mocky: whether you expose yourself to inteligent feedback is orthogonal to if you make some code into a library, no?
(trilema) Mocky: yeah, I see
(trilema) Mocky: doesn't sound familiar
(trilema) Mocky: difference between shared library and personal library
(trilema) Mocky: i agree 'book of useful recipes' useful to and created by practitioners
(trilema) Mocky: and speaking of fortran, deskilling also goes hand in hand with the john backus vision of "algebra of programs" snap together lego coding
(trilema) Mocky: mix code was considered library? lol
(trilema) Mocky: the deskilling goes hand in hand with proliferation of library-ism and github-ism. library in reality is the natural outcome of experienced practitioner isolating code that has no business freely mixing with other code. for use primarily by same person. but today the 99% see library as opaque boxes meant to pile up and put a little shit pile of new code on top
(trilema) Mocky: i agree re average developer. stepanov says i video that 1% should write library and 99% should just use. but that's bs. if 99% don't know algos or time complexity, then shouldn't be trusted with anything
(trilema) Mocky: german's greek to me
(trilema) Mocky: haven't heard of klein tale
(trilema) Mocky: stepanov strikes me as guy trying to do the right thing for a library to be used by millions of programs, while also being resigned to the shityness of c++ and of average developer
(trilema) Mocky: this guy is the him, ru dude
(trilema) Mocky: what did you think?
(trilema) Mocky: good morning mod6, how goes?
(trilema) Mocky: mircea_popescu, in the latest trilema piece I can't resolve the selection at the "ammends"(sic) link: http://trilema.com/2014/maramu/#selection-161.1-165.92
(trilema) Mocky: when I went opened comp this morning half expected chat window to be flashing with with ping "bot dun work!"
(trilema) Mocky: good morning, how goes?
(trilema) Mocky: correction Stepanov not Stepanoff
(trilema) Mocky: dude was ultra focused on the generic usefulness
(trilema) Mocky: there's just not a method that returns only bool , he insists on returning some additional potentially useful info that was gathered
(trilema) Mocky: there are still ways to do it, e.g. with the count method, you have to test for count < 1.
(trilema) Mocky: so instead the interface as methods that keep track of the info for the tasks you actually want to do
(trilema) Mocky: the only reason to use contains() is to follow up and do something else, like add or remove. but if you do those things you have to repeat all the work of contains() contains throws out all the info
(trilema) Mocky: i was trying to figure out what madness was behind an stl <set> not having a 'contains()' method, and turns out designer isn't dumb after all
(trilema) Mocky: apparently stepanoff wrote the generic list processing for Ada but saw that c++ would be more popular so then wrote stl as researcher at HP
(trilema) Mocky: standard template library for c++
(trilema) Mocky: when stepanoff starts talking about a guy who writes 77k lines of code and earns a raise, should instead get a $77M fine, i started listening more closely
(trilema) Mocky: talks about how his son came to him for help with stl homeowrk, and he's like 'i'm not dealing with that 5 pages of compile errors'
(trilema) Mocky: guy seems very differnt from stroustrup. talks about all the bad shit with the good
(trilema) Mocky: mod6, i actually feel way better about the stl stuff now after watching alex stepanoff talk about his creation for an hour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COuHLky7E2Q
(trilema) Mocky: certainly in no danger of 'sufficiently smart compiler'
(trilema) Mocky: afaik it was in c++ that the angle bracket template syntax was first used. mustta had no choice what with all the other brackets taken, but still way to go interfering with >> operator
(trilema) Mocky: it's like programming in quirks mode
(trilema) Mocky: compiler knows *exactly* what I want and emits it... except to the error stream instead of the output
(trilema) Mocky: nice, grats
(trilema) Mocky: tldr; banned amazon user found it "dizzying and disorienting"
(trilema) Mocky: omg, i "reached" 790k people. so powerful am i !!
(trilema) Mocky: that was my last contribution iirc. flipped the bozo bit
(trilema) Mocky: most upvoted answer: "XML is not a regular language. You cannot parse it using a regular expression."
(trilema) Mocky: "accessing a protected computer"
(trilema) Mocky: "look at our uber-drab office building with not a single person willing to get in the photo, it's awesome here I SWEAR!"
(trilema) Mocky: re: earlier cia lulz, homepage of glassdoor.com today has (seemingly fresh) cia job ad in rotation, "Morale is great despite of the changing leadership" http://imgur.com/UE7J72H
(trilema) Mocky: hmm, interesting
(trilema) Mocky: when I die, def want stone obelisk
(trilema) Mocky: what's interesting at the big cemetery?
(trilema) Mocky: i do see it now actually, yes
(trilema) Mocky: it did occur to me. went to the dominican republic some years ago for a summer, started learning spanish. but had no use for it back in the states
(trilema) Mocky: i'm not in a position to say!
(trilema) Mocky: i can see that argument, but it completely sidesteps the "first language" claim
(trilema) Mocky: s gonna chelate some fo that lead?
(trilema) Mocky: so then "first langauge" less an issue than "only language"? so multi fluency
(trilema) Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-16#1841925 http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-16#1841926 aside from being unable to argue against (as *victim*), the observation seems to have limited usefulness: can't change someone's first language. you could stop speaking it and stop looking for signs of life among its speakers, but neither of you seem to be doing this!
(trilema) Mocky: sounds like a bill murrray, dan aykroyd "don't cross the streams" item
(trilema) Mocky: asciilifeform, 'inferno' is this? >> http://btcbase.org/log/2015-02-25#1032830
(trilema) Mocky: gotta earn that gray beard
(trilema) Mocky: good times... "fun never ends"
(trilema) Mocky: I have nfi how much influence he still has on standard, but spends entire preface kissing feet of latest version
(trilema) Mocky: but you repeat yourself
(trilema) Mocky: re: hacksaw skills, yes, I can see the need for this quite clearly
(trilema) Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-14#1841573 << this is all new to me, I've been learning cpp from Stroustrup 4th ed. where he goes out of his way to act like cpp11 is the only version that ever existed
(trilema) Mocky: flying police don't shoot down without permission of Allah
(trilema) Mocky: check the file permissions?
(trilema) Mocky: wow, there's a wikipedia page for the number 50,000 "50,000 (fifty thousand) is the natural number that comes after 49,999 and before 50,001. It is a round number." marginal accuracy achieved thru absolute irrelevance
(trilema) Mocky: #eulora for one. personally i thought the asciiart dick bird dunking a basketball was a bit much but hey
(trilema) Mocky: so many 'mocky's in there incl. sexualnepomocky and MockyJoke
(trilema) Mocky: so in reading the logs I see that musl is a libc which is smaller and stricter than glibc. is there such a thing for c++ standard library or is it not needed?
(trilema) Mocky: cool danielpbarron, thx
(trilema) Mocky: BingoBoingo, take the paperwork out of the oven first!
(trilema) Mocky: danielpbarron, did this move somewhere else, or just gone? >> http://btcbase.org/log/2015-05-16#1133991
(trilema) Mocky: such a tender moment
(trilema) Mocky: trinque, works thank you
(trilema) Mocky: trinque, I think I did something wrong but I don't know what ^
(trilema) Mocky: !!deposit 0.0118
(trilema) Mocky: i haven't got one in #mocky this whole time, figured they don't bother with just one
(trilema) Mocky: that's on hold still until the summer air fare drops
(trilema) Mocky: asciilifeform, thx
(trilema) Mocky: oh hey, thepiratebay comes out of the closet. page footer: "By entering TPB you agree to XMR being mined using your CPU. If you don't agree please leave now or install an adBlocker"
(trilema) Mocky: laser useful in the field for range finding
(trilema) Mocky: ^ circa '96 "The goal of this binding is to make scripting language features, such as associative arrays, regular expression matching, and execution of OS commands available to an Ada programmer and to allow a Tcl programmer to use Ada in place of C where needed"
(trilema) Mocky: super happy, lol
(trilema) Mocky: whoa, haven't seen that trilema.com header before
(trilema) Mocky: anyone can reg a key and rate, neh
(trilema) Mocky: sounds like spam vector
(trilema) Mocky: seems like mircea_popescu tends to !!v in private. everyone sees intent, nobody knows when concretized
(trilema) Mocky: mod6, why not customer today?
(trilema) Mocky: !!rated lobbes shinohai
(trilema) Mocky: gringo money pit?
(trilema) Mocky: mircea_popescu: ok
(trilema) Mocky: phf, good info, thanks. looks like cheapest flight in august is bouncing around $1250 to $1350, haven't seen the $1150 sighting again. If I push it out past labor day looks like $950
(trilema) Mocky: ok, yeah I see it
(trilema) Mocky: talking neighborhoods
(trilema) Mocky: BingoBoingo, is Prado where you are?
(trilema) Mocky: asciilifeform, raleigh durham international
(trilema) Mocky: copa's 2700 or more for any time in august, from what I can see
(trilema) Mocky: oh that sux, i'd totally do a layover in miami
(trilema) Mocky: i need to find one with 23hrs in cancun and 23 hours in jamaica, lol
(trilema) Mocky: man, these flights are a hoot. looks like getting below $1900 requires 2 to 3 long layovers. cheapest one i see $1153 9 hours in JFK, 16hrs Bogota
(trilema) Mocky: i left and never went back. i should have know by how nice the place was. too nice.
(trilema) Mocky: last year doc referred me to specialist for one specific issue. specialist ordered 2 dozen labs, bone density scan, ultrasound, said come back in 2 weeks. came back, said looks all good but want another test. went to lab, blood draw chick whips out 7 vials for blood collection. I said, let me see what labs were ordered, was 4 dozen more!
(trilema) Mocky: BingoBoingo, what are pharmacies like there, do you know? like mexico: basically walk in and ask for what you need, or more sticklers for note from doc?
(trilema) Mocky: really? i guess I shouldn't be surprised
(trilema) Mocky: ok, thanks
(trilema) Mocky: but stack frames are allocated *before* so can' be arbitrary size
(trilema) Mocky: BingoBoingo, I've just read through your real estate posts, what was your best source of info re: rentals, was it agencies?
(trilema) Mocky: i have a nephew who tried to get me to cr last summer and I agreed, but then he backed out. he was raving about the place
(trilema) Mocky: more trails within city limits than you could get in some states
(trilema) Mocky: the hiking there is mind blowing
(trilema) Mocky: BingoBoingo, yeah I've been thinking. Spent better half of last year travelling southern usa and mostly finding places I would *not* want to live until landing in Austin, which I quite liked. But then later snapped back to east coast. I've developed a pretty good sense of my (pretty minimal) quality of life needs recently.
(trilema) Mocky is grandfather and also other unlikely things
(trilema) Mocky: i've also been on both sides of make / break protections (although break for fun not pay). if hash is used as protection, i see that as valid objection
(trilema) Mocky: asciilifeform, assume for the sake of argument diana_coman said 'dun care about make use difficult, let them use whatever works', do you still have objection to that?
(trilema) Mocky: asciilifeform, i get that. I read your 'realistic description' statement to mean referrer string is promisatronic protection, was asking what referrer string is protecting.
(trilema) Mocky: asciilifeform, what's being protected?
(trilema) Mocky: can 'break' so why bother?
(trilema) Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-17#1835572 >> does it change your pov if the hash is no form of protection or implied protection but merely an accounting convenience. like say http 'referrer' on phuctor page links to pizarro. maybe pizarro uses referrer to track where customer comes from and if came from known ad placement then counts customer for that ad. is referrer string now promisatronic protection since anyone
(trilema) Mocky: or maybe not. i still have software from the 90's that I use on a daily basis, install straight from orig 90's cd
(trilema) Mocky: if there turns out competition between clients, maybe i want to do something to get more market share
(trilema) Mocky: seems theres a general level of good enough, that's rarely hit first release
(trilema) Mocky: if shortwave repeater was in l1 confidence and one day i became l1, i wouldn't see having to keep that secret as a burden.
(trilema) Mocky: this is true
(trilema) Mocky: as example
(trilema) Mocky: i don't see it as a problem for the client writer. to the contrary i would expect clients to get regular updates and older versions less useful relatively over time. but maybe asciilifeform doesn't care about eulora at all, why involve when only possible involvement 'suspected of leak'?
(trilema) Mocky: there's no way toknow, obviously. but if i wrote a client under this l1 confidence model, and it leaked not by me, i would suspect someone in l1... who else?
(trilema) Mocky: if in the case of a confirmed leak, pointed questions could be asked even of those who never so much as looked at it. and i'm not saying answering questions is a big burden, but alternately not being suspected in the first place could be considered a benefit
(trilema) Mocky: this makes sense to me. the only thing i have against it is asciilifeform and mod6 argument about the burden of keeping secrets. while I don't see the proposed method as actually burdensome, i see the argument in the general case
(trilema) Mocky: asciilifeform, i dont' even see it as an issue of paying for software: the paying or not doesn't need to differ from the case where minigame writes the official client
(trilema) Mocky: my understanding is minigame wants there to be 3rd party clients, but would want access to the src and be assured binary matches src. but if src fully available then good client gets forked so what incentive to write client?
(trilema) Mocky: they do, but gotta coordinate with other rowers inthe galley
(trilema) Mocky: correction, let me consider how i can make it happen
(trilema) Mocky: sounds like an adventure, let me consider
(trilema) Mocky: white onthe inside!
(trilema) Mocky: asciilifeform, not everywhere if you don't see cute in asian or african
(trilema) Mocky: def not wanting to move to china, lol
(trilema) Mocky: i've been meaning to learn spanish. they got cute girls there?
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