(ossasepia) diana_coman: ... quite irrelevant really.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: BingoBoingo: hm, I don't think so really; there's a lot there and I have only ~5 minutes left now but in short, the way I see it the "world shutting down over a cold" was quite visible really; ie sure, "not visible over *what* specific silly thing" but very visible that it will; because it couldn't quite keep going on the way it was set, as simple as that, and so shut down it had to; it found this conveniently and matching but that's ...
(ossasepia) diana_coman: it might be though that I have a weird lens for this sort of things; who knows, I might even get around to write it at some point.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: BingoBoingo: you know, I kept reading from several of you re 9/11 and I recalled the 1989 Ro revolution but dunno, for all its magnitude and all that, I still don't see that *moment* itself as much - it was the buildup and there was a whole lot more later on (the ~'92 for instance) but there in the moment...dunno.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-30#1023247 - lolz, there's no need for nod or approval/disapproval; there's a concrete question for you to answer - do you still want the level of involvement at "members" level or would you prefer less of it ie "hopefuls" ?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: the more dubious otherwise overall issue there is what exactly IS that data of yours given that your process is not all that clear&reliable as far as I can tell; and you know, data needs context to mean anything.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: BingoBoingo: tbh that's how it usually always is, heh
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-30#1023224 - the easiest "publish" is a dump indeed, not sure *why* would you think you need anything more than that? I guess you can provide both .sql and .csv if you want to really provide options but that is all really as far as data itself goes (well, with some sig/checksum at least)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-30#1023217 - as for lobbes above, if you find a different frequency better, go with it; tricolor octopus sounds good though.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023213 - fwiw that sounds more like "need to digest/reflect/take a break"; it doesn't really have to come with "sick of it" though, lolz.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and for that matter, things are *supposed to evolve* and therefore change anyway.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023211 - no problem at all there; that's the whole point - find what works best within the overall framework which is structured so you have something to lean on but is not set in concrete to suffocate anything.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023204 - sounds reasonable.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023203 - cool, I'll do it in a minute.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023202 - iirc bachcentral.com used to have something reasonable, don't they have it anymore?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023194 - ah, I had it just generically "Sunday evening from 7pm utc onwards" but yes, you are right there.
(ossasepia) diana_coman will be away.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: obviously not; mk.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: hm, I thought you wanted to discuss today?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023184 - BingoBoingo, lobbes, jfw, dorion, whaack let me know what you think there.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: hope you get better soon!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and in predictable news, I can see the highly increased interest in silly attacks on ossasepia.com; yo, people, get in here instead and maybe do something more useful, you know?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-28#1023177 - weren't you going to analyse and publish them or what do you mean?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-28#1023167 - there is this stupid separation of content in wp so that it ends up with some in db and some on disk (well, fs-db); (which means also that making a full backup has to take both parts and so on); so yes, a wp design problem with deep roots for sure.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: can be, I could certainly see it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ah, cool then.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ah, my question was ill-formed indeed; I meant more the environment than lisp itself, exactly because my impression was that it still ends up importing all sorts ~comparable to the python & flask; basically I still don't really know *what* (if anything) would be a choice that could be made practically with minimal (preferably none) imports.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-28#1023145 - trinque , do you find lisp well suited for irc? (I genuinely have no idea on the matter and asking you because I recall you said earlier you have quite a lot of experience with irc on the programming & admin side)
(ossasepia) diana_coman shall be back tomorrow
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I mean a read of the articles linked from there, not of my 1-sentence note on them, ofc.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion, jfw there are quite a few of those articles listed in ^ that you'd benefit from (re-)reading but I especially recommend a read/re-read of http://ossasepia.com/2020/03/27/a-review-of-the-bitcoin-category-on-trilemacom/?b=full%20solution&e=#select and http://ossasepia.com/2020/03/27/a-review-of-the-bitcoin-category-on-trilemacom/?b=basic%20point&e=#select
(ossasepia) diana_coman: or that, indeed; I was just thinking that I actually don't do *that* much pasting and certainly not at dev time, hm.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: why exactly a relief? that would be where you start from to find a solution; better ways to select or what?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: isn't the switch kbd/mouse/kbd annoying in itself? (it tends to annoy me and I usually avoid it)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: anyways, I suppose you can easily find out if you *really* need the x11 - just ditch it for a month and see what solution you find instead, heh.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: possibly not; though I still wonder how I managed to keep track of all the convos given the format, lolz.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: at least the 2nd layer of review caught it then, not that bad; (and glad to hear it wasn't anything worse than what sounds like too-much-on-local-plate, anyway)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: it's true it's 20 years since I last used irc without x11 but I don't recall that being a problem at the time either, lol.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I have x11 ofc and all the bells and whistles for eulora client but otherwise (eg for server-side development) I never needed x11
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: possibly; but more to the point, a whole x11 for...copy/paste sounds certainly like overkill, no?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: why/how?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: need it*
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: oh huh, why x11? I mean: do you needed for the dev work you do?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: congrats BingoBoingo !
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: what happened to you?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: so yes, sure, you don't have the v write up at the planned time; you still had though something to publish at that time: the summary of the adventure, with what came out of it; that is anyway the only thing that can ever be, after all - it's always exactly a summary of what you did and the fact that sometimes it happens to fit also previous plans and expectations does not make it something other than *what you did*.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: re derailing publication - your adventure there actually brought forward some *additional* part that you should write up and publish, namely those "quirks" of busybox and the like; as you noticed, you forgot some of them yourself so write them down in one place to have as reference already; esp if you want to make Gales useful, anyway.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: ahaha; why don't you work on Gales anyway?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-26#1023081 - trinque , do you realise we already have the *same* conversation in #trilema before? Here: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-03-01#1958690 ; *that is all there is* and sure, it's the description of the mechanism rather than the mechanism; if that's not enough, it's still all there currently is.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: what happened to you?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: looking forward to reading that write-up of V work soon enough then.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: since we uncovered that need for more practice - what are you actually *doing* today?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: you're welcome.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: to be perfectly clear - I still think it's good you asked the question since you were wasting time on it; should have asked earlier and wasted even less; but it's quite stupid for you to waste time on it to start with.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: that part with do more and spin less, seriously.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: you know, if you are then you are and if you aren't then you aren't and in either case spinning about it will do nothing at all.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: to put it plainly, it is none of your business really; ie sure, it is a warning and perhaps a warning I should heed; but I don't quite have to explain what/if about it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: what, are you entirely out of things to spin on so you finally found a mighty one to keep you from doing anything, is that it?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whether you are exactly the sort of "boi" he talks about?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whether MP will?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: so then what exactly are you concerned with there? whether I'm wasting my own time? whether I'm going to (or whether I should rather) shoot you or what?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: listen, do you want to go away? then go away, I won't chase you or anything; is that what you are asking?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: the problems you make for yourself, seriously.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I get the impression trinque is looking for some mystical mp-wp code that never was really; as far as I know there's the V-tree of mp-wp that billymg has on his site and otherwise MP's article on trilema and that's all there is.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque, billymg: is there some mp-wp code that is not already published or why is now talk of signed tarballs all of a sudden?
(ossasepia) diana_coman will be back tomorrow.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cool then; glad to hear it on both counts.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: anyways; re the OS, hopefully the current status is a bit more clear to, ie not just "moving as it were" and certainly not any priority right now
(ossasepia) diana_coman admits to be still rather baffled at the uncovered amount of misunderstanding/incompatibility in #t and all that.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: anyways, hopefully now some things at least cleared up and won't get clogged back again.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I think it was even said explicitly that communication as short as "guys, my man is injured" from any connected party would have served amply
(ossasepia) diana_coman: but you know, funnily enough the real trouble there was *still communication* (lack of it), not the injury itself; ugh.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: do you seriously think the reason was the fact that he got injured?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dunno why it has to go like this from one extreme to another
(ossasepia) diana_coman: no, not a plan to plan; but a short talk in chan eg "I'm thinking of doing this, any comments/ideas"? this sort of thing
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I didn't say you claimed that, no; all I said was that I had no idea of even what your plans were - or indeed if you had any plans at all; understand that silence is just ??? from the other side, ie it can be *anything*.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: I'm afraid it is indeed the case that I don't see that precise communicator from here.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: where did that happen?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: this reminds me way too much of this: http://ossasepia.com/2018/02/06/its-only-words-and-assumptions-and-priorities-and-ouch/
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: the idea of communicating what you plan to do - is that absurd too?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: MP kicked you off the OS thing because nobody could even tell wtf you were doing or even IF you were doing anything; and honestly, I couldn't have said what you were doing or if indeed anything related to the os.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: hm?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: I think everyone clearly stated they found your series (hence your consulting on the topic) very useful indeed and they had indeed no reason to believe that the series will not proceed as you said initially yourself it would; that being said, it's your series and your choice, ofc, what.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: my observation above was that from where I see it, if you put in some work (be it notes /drafts stages), then it's of most benefit to you to finish them and publish them, regardless of anything else; apparently you take a different view on this though and ok, it's your choice, no problem for me.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: seriously, I'm not even asking for anything (I meant it earlier that I'm done asking); I just want to make something clear: either there's something concrete published and *then* it can be discussed or there isn't and then there is nothing to discuss; does this make sense?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: no
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: sure, not asking for that sort of review either, not at all.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I can't make any sense of this
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: you see, this is seriously a sort of thing I don't quite get; on one hand you say - understandably - that you don't want to put effort into something that isn't going anywhere; fine, I agree; on the other hand and at the same time, you do put effort into all sorts that remain then - or so it seems - hanging in various stages
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: is the it on your desk cuntoo? I know the it on their desk (gales) and I have it installed on a laptop here; I have cuntoo installed on a box too; I don't have/know of anything else though so can't comment at all on that sort of "it"
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: basically that's why I was surprised earlier and asked if you planned to head an OS effort - because the moment you ask for future conversations on the OS to happen in your chan, I gather you want to head it; I don't quite get how/why it's better otherwise to have them there.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ie if he heads it, then a. he gets to decide what & when & where & with whom should move, for the very good reason that he would have also the whole plan and reason why for all of that b. he is not going to go around having conversations wherever because that's not going to be of much help moving things either
(ossasepia) diana_coman: basically whether there will be an OS or not depends on whether there is anyone capable to head it and the fact that currently the only "volunteer" (by virtue of hm, not having stepped back rather than anything else) is dorion doesn't mean that he *has no choice* in the matter, wtf
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and the way I see it, they first have quite some work to do to get jwrd in a position to push a whole OS, regardless of what that is
(ossasepia) diana_coman: anyways, regardless of that even, the fact of the matter is that the OS can't currently just be considered "as it was"
(ossasepia) diana_coman: basically dorion and jfw have nothing to do with your experience with pizarro, after all.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: that being said re the experience with pizarro, I don't think it's really sane to take experiences from one context to another quite that directly/fully
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: well, it comes back to my earlier nobody left to own it
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-25#1022887 - you know, I actually *also* remember this and fwiw *I'm* still annoyed that happened as it did; what can I say, there are things that annoy me even to just witness;
(ossasepia) diana_coman: k, so that's hopefully cleared up; back to the OS thread, let me fish it out
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: ok, then ping me on it once it's all available; is 1 year fine?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: fine with me
(ossasepia) diana_coman listens
(ossasepia) diana_coman: basically - I'm fine if you set some numbers but please set them to something that allows me to rate newcomers without having to hand them the full keys to the channel; does this make sense?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: then l2 is nicks rated by l1 as 2 or above and no negatives - that again is fine with me, as stated there
(ossasepia) diana_coman: the channel's l1 is owner's rated 9 even (iirc this was lowered on consideration/discussion) and this is what I said I thought to be basically 3 or above; I'm fine with various numbers between 3 and 9 really
(ossasepia) diana_coman: it's not saying "rated > 0"
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: re l2 and deviations, I went and checked again the ref and I don't see how /where I deviate from it really
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: appreciated then (and honestly, I didn't get it earlier; perhaps I'm tired today too but it is what it is)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: well, I had no idea re the above, for starters; and yes, I am aware that I don't know the details, hence why I don't go about with "proposals" because wtf proposals like this from outside
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: lol, so ask as such then, because if you go about it in roundabout ways, I won't get it, no.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: the whole point of owning something is that the *owner* sees and decides on those...
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: helpful for me?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: anyways, as I already said, given your previous track record of operating deedbot, I'm totally fine to take your word for it that indeed, you plan to run it as a service and own it as such.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: sure; but unlike your own hand, deedbot can be grown and has a whole context of operation that you may or may not aim to make your turf as well, no matter how small the steps.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: what I see missing there is... hm, governance I suppose, as opposed to technology; (so hm, I guess I'm setting the French against the German here)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ah, true (not the only one!!) lolz
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lol? I'm missing your reference there
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: the disconnect here is that your definition of ownership seems focused on tool handling basically.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: uh, now I see why it didn't come to mind, hm; (and huh, do you prefer that old selection mechanism despite its breakage across browsers?)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: I can't seem to recall exactly or find that previous def of ownership you referenced; would you mind terribly linking it for me or stating it again?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: let's sort out re deedbot first as it's possibly faster to sort out
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: ah, I had in mind the more important support of being able to ask for resources that would have been available once a clear plan of attracting contributors or the like was in place, for instance; also, quite some expertise re management and so on; no, I don't mean "more people coding" or the like
(ossasepia) diana_coman: hm, you don't?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: so not quite the same way in the sense that some important support did fall out from under the project
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: indeed re OS but the change of context with TMSR closure means that they have to support indeed fully the OS if they find a space & resources for it
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I somehow recall there was a threshold higher than 0 really, uhm.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: was it meant to self-voice even with a rating of 1?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: I'd appreciate your answer re deedbot question and perhaps a talk re OS because it seems to me, upon re-reading your earlier statement that we are not quite on the same page there.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: mike_c out of curiosity if you don't mind me asking - why now rather than at ~any other point in those many past years? since you say you never really had interest in it, it was just that you helped get it stood up at some point and nothing more.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: mike_c no offense taken at all, no worries there; I suppose we can chuck it to some miscommunication (and it's possibly not surprising given that it's for some reason not happening as a conversation at all but anyways).
(ossasepia) diana_coman: that being said, I expect anyone who cared indeed, already made their own mirrors of the content; and if they didn't, perhaps they'll learn from it and make it next time they find something they care about.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I must add that I find the whole thing overall rather weird; if one wants to shut down a site they run, I could see it as a courtesy to ask people if they want perhaps a dump/mirror and/or the domain, sure; but I haven't seen such question and the "do you care" question is quite a different sort of thing.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: hoefully the caring/carrying link is clear enough above for the logs too.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ... certainly, but websites are not on my list for that sort of thing, no.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: mike_c lol, that was quick fire, wasn't it? The eulorum.org wiki was/is your interest and project so not sure I follow there your reasoning on it. Anyways, to put it plainly: I'd certainly like it if there was someone who finds it useful to run a Eulora wiki; this does not mean that I'm going to rescue or run any/every wiki myself, so no, it's not a matter of me "caring". I've carried a child to term and many other things too, ...
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I have no idea what about that wiki.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: BingoBoingo: so hopefully he comes in and asks a question, so I can ...answer it, ok?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: re "put a lot of work into", do note that in itself that doesn't mean that there IS infrastructure; hence my above "there isn't because nobody left to own it" + "I'll take your word for it" (that you mean to own it, not just "put a lot of work into it")
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: also, re subscribe, please invoice for 1 year, don't really want to look at it every month.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and no, it's not about "what it's called" but about who actually owns it; just like with the infrastructure really.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: the above re deedbot; re OS, I think it's not even the busybox-uber-alles the first question to sort out, but a much more fundamental one.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: all right; I'll take your word for it then and therefore subscribe to your deedbot service; can it be made so that it allows self-voice in #ossasepia to those in my L1 with ratings > 2?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and now it even occured to me that #eulora is also on and moreover it has no voice restriction and I'm there too and it's supposedly more appropriate for talks about eulora etc; so uhm, how is it "hard" to talk on irc again?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: mike_c and no, it's actually not hard at all - you can just pm me and ask, not like I don't answer people now or something.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: mike_c the reason why "it has to be so hard to talk" is that a. idiots b. no infrastructure because nobody left to own it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: BingoBoingo: Eulora is on, has been on, will be on. What was/is the question?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: mike_c I've set the flags so ChanServ voices you automatically on join; come in whenever convenient for any talk.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trinque/2020-03-24#1000361 - trinque, do you mean that you plan to head an OS project?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: aha; ok.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: how's your own version of rust ?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: cool then
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-24#1022798 - all right, do that then and let's see it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman will be back tomorrow.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: thimbronion: glad to hear it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: yeah; well, at the rate it's going, it might be anyways that I end up with 8 year olds or something - at least they are very happy indeed to learn and -if anything- I have trouble making them leave the house, not getting them to come; in the long run and all that, lolz.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ha, runescape!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: I'm considering getting younger people in and they are totally never-heard-of-irc.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ah, pretty much the previous relative peak of use, yes; hm; I wonder what/why is so otherwise ~dead, but anyways.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: did you use irc before venturing into #t in 2017 or when was it@
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: works.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: when will you publish your review?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: thimbronion: as far as I see it, you are quite happy focusing exclusively on writing for qntra and learning from BingoBoingo; I have no problem with this and so no reason to negrate or anything of the sort but it's also nothing to do with yh, so I'll consider that you are effectively getting off the yh program at this stage, no problem with that.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: since that weekend is long gone and clearly enthdegree doesn't need any voice anyway.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: time relativity in action!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-22#1022715 - lmao; are they going to patrol the beaches too? or how exactly will they keep you out? (/me notes she would go every day for a swim for the trol factor, it's just too much asking for it)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-22#1022713 - glad to hear it!
(ossasepia) diana_coman will be back tomorrow.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lol, ok then; anyways, have fun!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: also, you might want to change your article's category there, you *can* choose it, you know?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: aha; anyways, there you go, this has been essentially an #o light taster for you; re reading the logs to get an idea what it is about, perhaps better start with people's articles on their experience/getting in; some struggled with the question of "do I want in?" for a while.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: btw, if you want to jump in anyway, can do worse than using the opportunity to write a short awk script to log your time; there's a quite good tutorial iirc.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: (can be - but you have to make the case for it, can't just "better" :P )
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: in what way better?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: answered.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: can be worse, lol; anyways, re "no idea how long this will take so won't estimate", that's silly to start with; the point of estimating is precisely to start getting such ideas.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: what operating system are you using?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: do feel free to move it here though if you prefer/think it works better as a conversation.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: I left a comment there, it's possibly a better place for the discussion anyway.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: feedbot should announce it, but possibly it's slow today; /me looks
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(ossasepia) diana_coman: lolz, the boomerang effect
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: ah, it sounded like "nothing for today or in general"
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: o.O ; are you done with discussing for the next 5 years or what?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: but anyways, glad to hear you got where you wanted to be.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lol, thrown off the plane for stumbling?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: anyways, you have therefore *plenty* to review!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lolz
(ossasepia) diana_coman: confusion, what else to expect!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I suppose it's good that there still are connecting flights within US, huh
(ossasepia) diana_coman: kind of to be expected, no?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: oh hey, congrats!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: are you happy in the end with the stalling/spinning or what?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: did you have anything on the agenda for today's talk?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: that "weird foam" on leaves/trees is most likely the traces of "spittlebugs".
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: ah, I hadn't realised the split of tasks between drunk&deed bots; do you plan to publish some docs & roadmap re those bots and/or whatever services you offer through them?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: no problem.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: is drunkbot meant to replace deedbot (ie you retire deedbot) or what do you have in mind?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: thanks, I'll set it up in a bit and will gpg you.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: what's your name?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: as I said earlier, if you prefer/find it easier, I can just give you an account on the younghands.club blog so you are not stuck on "no blog" or "don't know how to setup mp-wp" or some other silly stuff like that; entirely up to you though, I don't mind it either way so you'll have to speak up/ask for it if/when you want that.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: BingoBoingo: no problem that I can see there anyway/either way; more of my curiosity on this only, since I admit that I also don't quite see all those problems re qntra /former alignment/etc but from what I gather, it's probably a very different perception altogether. Anyways, no issue there either way.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: depends on how stable (or not) your connection is really; on a reasonable setup & connection, it shouldn't flicker normally but you know what connection you are on.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: it's pretty much how it's meant to work really, no need to leave and re-join, just let it be on somewhere, whether you are at the keyboard or not
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: mind leaving the connection on?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: BingoBoingo: do you mean you don't want qntra's archives to overshadow the new content simply by size/number?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-20#1022614 - lol, take the mind to the cr mechanics and they'll apply the "use a hammer" methodology!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: BingoBoingo: also, what's your plan with the qntra archives?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-20#1022495 - BingoBoingo, looks ok-ish to me (the 2 pics at the top don't seem the right size/fit really) but dunno, is the plan that you'll stick in there ads? and if yes, shouldn't it be clear already where, at least?
(ossasepia) diana_coman will be back tomorrow.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: lol; does the mind do anything where it goes, at least? if it really is processing something, might as well then sit and process until done.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: no problem.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: see above, does that answer your question?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: the "process" itself remains the same in the sense that it's still this.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: entry where?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: understand that no, I won't take anyone in just through an interview anymore, that window is closed.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: do you plan to get yourself one? or do you want to inaugurate the new YH category of ...hm, maybe hopefuls, I guess
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: do you have a blog of your own?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: well, the question there is not "would you love that?" but always "how much are you willing to work for that?" And as per above, the spoken answer won't be enough by itself, that's all.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: anyways, why so sorry for yourself? sun,surf,stocked supermarkets, fish to fish, fruit to pick, what's so terrible?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: but seriously, wasn't ...hm, expected?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: ahaha, don't cry for me catalonia/
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: here's the description of YH & #o as seen from the inside, might help I guess. (Because #ossasepia is part of YH project, yes.)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: that remains, sure.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: what's with that?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jwrd is their venture.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: but to reiterate, specifically re btc, trb, programming, computers as such, from my point of view there are dorion and jfw covering that and I have no desire whatsoever to give lessons in it too.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: once I finish the review, I'll set the exact shape of that moving forwards too & get around to update everything here and there, as appropriate; meanwhile though, and as per earlier more relaxed requirements, I guess I'll open up an applicants category so that people have a space to do something that might indeed serve as "I'm interested" and back up their application.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: did you read around the yh site?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: aha, lol
(ossasepia) diana_coman: did you finish medschool?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ahahah, didn't know medschool was the qualification for professional poker.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: where did you come from, before despising london from within?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: nobody said there "need it"; just "money", yeah
(ossasepia) diana_coman: anyways, nothing wrong with not knowing re the other bit - congrats on discovering the unknown!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: heh, that's pretty much how it goes, indeed; "despise it" "but!! money!!" lolz.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: are you saying there that "inertia made me do it"
(ossasepia) diana_coman: perhaps my earlier I won't ask people for stuff anymore doesn't make the full picture clear but let me state plainly another part that comes with that - I won't take "saying that" for anything at all either and the yh application process is not going to be an exception from that either.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: you know, I lost track of *how many* kept going on about how they despise London - while they came & stayed exactly there.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: or dunno, maybe congrats? lolz
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: london, ugh.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: thanks; where about in the uk are you anyway?