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BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Comment on http://ossasepia.com/2020/03/29/the-young-hands-club-moving-forwards/ in your mod hopper or spam hopper.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Review and plan delayed this week by notes I've got to keep chewing through and some rather sore feet from that pursuit.
BingoBoingo lost time last week, now that I'm shaving again to the pursuit of a civilized apparatus (unavailable in the local market at present) that holds a doube edged blade (readily available in the local market in quantity) so my neck can finally stop being angry 18 out of every 24 hours.
BingoBoingo has already split the most blocking set of notes into a blog post draft (object: the motochorro that circled me several times, too timid to ask the question that is his trade)
BingoBoingo has not experienced anything with a remotely similar flavor since shortly after arriving, and that suspicion has faded in the retrospect
BingoBoingo: Predator was looking for prey as I was seeing how many kilometers I could put on the odometer without leaving my barrio. Dude made 7 approaches between km 6 and km 18 of my lsd spider polygons, but never closed to within 3 meters,
feedbot: http://younghands.club/2020/03/30/jfw-plan-week-of-30-mar-2020/ << Young Hands Club -- JFW plan, week of 30 Mar 2020
BingoBoingo would have liked to get that damned interview, but... In a city where the police regularly get robbed of their sidearms, apparently I'm a tricolor neon octopus.
whaack: diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023181 Yes I want to analyze them and publish them, but I would like advise on how to do both. For the later, do I just host the .sql file? Do I create a log viewer that allows one to filter by network + channel? (I can dig up old logs / discussions to answer these questions, I know that I was once advised against making any browser
whaack: based text filter tool)
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-29 05:23:06 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-28#1023177 - weren't you going to analyse and publish them or what do you mean?
feedbot: http://younghands.club/2020/03/30/wh-review-of-week-24-mar-23rd-mar-29th/ << Young Hands Club -- WH Review of Week 24 (Mar 23rd - Mar 29th)
whaack: BingoBoingo: lsd spider polygons? tricolor neon octopus? would you call your odometer test a "walk" or a "trip"?
BingoBoingo: whaack: I was doing roughly circles, but I did not archictect the steet layout in my hood. For the neon octopus comment, the motochorro was obviously looking for old biddies purses and in the lack of those available tried seeking other prey. I don't know any other model for the way he consistently broke attempts at contact other than the natural signalling of poisonousness through bright colors I was not wearing
BingoBoingo: whaack: jfw can explain a bit the strange way my hood is laid out.
BingoBoingo: But anything more than a single block isn't going to be a simple quadrilateral
whaack: BingoBoingo: ah now I understand, I did not get "lsd spider polygons" was a description of your walking path.
BingoBoingo: whaack: It's alright. I didn't plan the path so much as I went trying to find people and came up short.
BingoBoingo: Not just short, 63% of the bipeds on the ticker were known pichis.
whaack: BingoBoingo: Did you protect yourself with the imagine-stabbing-the-vulnerable-to-get-the-right-facial-muscles technique?
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-19 16:54:41 BingoBoingo: whaack: That isn't necessarily an error on its own. You left out the failure to keep a hand in your pocket while taking some time to think about who the most stabbable people in the crowd are.
BingoBoingo: whaack: For all I know he can smell smokeless powder in well seated bullets
BingoBoingo also very not used to being beardless
whaack: BingoBoingo: Can't say I follow what you mean by him being able to "smell smokeless powder in well seated bullets"
BingoBoingo: whaack: So, before gunshot residue can be a thing, there's this material called gunpowder. It is normally stuck between a bullet, casing, and primer with a bit of fatty lubricant. Generally the assembly is airtight. As I made that utterance in question, I'm absolutely stumped at the motochorro's approach and refusal to close
BingoBoingo: Smokeless power refers to the propellant of all,but the most retro bullets
BingoBoingo: whaack: The intention was saying the dude may have have a sort of "spidey sense" that triggered on a something that absolutely should have been unknowable to him
BingoBoingo: If you take something a bit smelly and imprison it in brass, fat, and lead, the prospects of the smell escaping are poor.
whaack: BingoBoingo: Ah, thank you for spelling it out for me.
BingoBoingo: whaack: Np, anyways the point is if the cue that had him breaking off was not obvious to me. Even if I may or may not have had great reasons for him to do so in my pocket, that information was opaque to me.
BingoBoingo: Yet he did it again and again and again.
whaack: diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023189 I will give the article another reread and see if I have something more substantial to say tomorrow, but this is in line with how I forsaw younghands adapting to the closure of tmsr so for now all I have to say/give is a nod of agreement/acknowledgement.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-29 16:21:20 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023184 - BingoBoingo, lobbes, jfw, dorion, whaack let me know what you think there.
feedbot: http://younghands.club/2020/03/30/wh-plan-for-week-25-mar-30th-april-5th/ << Young Hands Club -- WH Plan For Week 25 (Mar 30th - April 5th)
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023194 - ah, I had it just generically "Sunday evening from 7pm utc onwards" but yes, you are right there.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-29 16:49:10 lobbes: diana_coman: I was planning for our 7:30 UTC time slot. I will be digesting your latest article though; it did indeed touch on some of my concerns with myself even
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023202 - iirc bachcentral.com used to have something reasonable, don't they have it anymore?
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-29 18:58:55 jfw: In sadness from my day off, I've been unable to find online any properly sourced plain-text (or even scanned) rendition of any particular edition of the Bach-Werke-Verzeichnis, even at the basic level of (number, title, categories)
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-29 19:17:47 trinque: diana_coman: deedbot is ready to join. if you'll issue the following command, I'll have it do so: /msg ChanServ flags #ossasepia deedbot +oO
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-29 19:19:58 trinque: we'll let things run for a week and see if any issues arise, and then I'll invoice at the end.
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023211 - no problem at all there; that's the whole point - find what works best within the overall framework which is structured so you have something to lean on but is not set in concrete to suffocate anything.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-29 22:49:31 lobbes: diana_coman: In any case, I would like to remain a full member of the YHC. I don't want to go back to a playing a losing game. I wanted to ask you though: would you be opposed if I change my review/plan writing frequency to once a month? It is hard to explain, but I like having the latitude to improvise on a da
diana_coman: and for that matter, things are *supposed to evolve* and therefore change anyway.
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023213 - fwiw that sounds more like "need to digest/reflect/take a break"; it doesn't really have to come with "sick of it" though, lolz.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-29 22:49:44 lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023190 << Some days/weeks/months I'll be very productive and can reflect on myself quite easily. Then other days/weeks I'll just get sick of everything (myself included) and I'll just "shut off" for a while. While this might sound odd on paper, I swear when I "turn back on" again I have newfound perspective and energy. I'm not even sure if this is a problem tbh
ericbot: Logged on 2020-03-29 22:09:57 trinque: lobbes: I'm curious what part of you has the maturity to see your own flaws, and how you separate that from the other.
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-30#1023217 - as for lobbes above, if you find a different frequency better, go with it; tricolor octopus sounds good though.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-30 03:12:12 BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Review and plan delayed this week by notes I've got to keep chewing through and some rather sore feet from that pursuit.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: I'll give a different frequency some thought, but right now it is more wrestling with the WTF of the world than the scheduling that got me off track.
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-30#1023224 - the easiest "publish" is a dump indeed, not sure *why* would you think you need anything more than that? I guess you can provide both .sql and .csv if you want to really provide options but that is all really as far as data itself goes (well, with some sig/checksum at least)
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-30 03:52:49 whaack: diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023181 Yes I want to analyze them and publish them, but I would like advise on how to do both. For the later, do I just host the .sql file? Do I create a log viewer that allows one to filter by network + channel? (I can dig up old logs / discussions to answer these questions, I know that I was once advised against making any browser
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: tbh that's how it usually always is, heh
diana_coman: whaack: the more dubious otherwise overall issue there is what exactly IS that data of yours given that your process is not all that clear&reliable as far as I can tell; and you know, data needs context to mean anything.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: So it seems. Just the waves this past month really seem to be tossing the boat quite a bit more than I have come to know.
BingoBoingo: I mean when 9/11 happened in high school that was one thing. This present hysteric terror gripping the world is something else.
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-30#1023247 - lolz, there's no need for nod or approval/disapproval; there's a concrete question for you to answer - do you still want the level of involvement at "members" level or would you prefer less of it ie "hopefuls" ?
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-30 04:34:53 whaack: diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023189 I will give the article another reread and see if I have something more substantial to say tomorrow, but this is in line with how I forsaw younghands adapting to the closure of tmsr so for now all I have to say/give is a nod of agreement/acknowledgement.
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: you know, I kept reading from several of you re 9/11 and I recalled the 1989 Ro revolution but dunno, for all its magnitude and all that, I still don't see that *moment* itself as much - it was the buildup and there was a whole lot more later on (the ~'92 for instance) but there in the moment...dunno.
diana_coman: it might be though that I have a weird lens for this sort of things; who knows, I might even get around to write it at some point.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Well, revolutions are internal, the buildup shows. A decerebrating strike like 9/11 only really offers a richness to plumb in retrospect.
BingoBoingo: The Trumpening was visible, the world shutting down over a cold because the Chinese wanted to run a war game is... a big bag of wtf
BingoBoingo: As best as I can tell, what happened with the virus of the season is it was spotted in wuhan at just the right time to get the Chicoms suspecting a US placement (whether there was or wasn't seems irrelevant outside of the messaging). The Chicoms responded by being more Chinese than ever, but the rest of the world fucked up and entered into a stotting show over how much they can afford to waste on a warm-ish fire drill.
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: hm, I don't think so really; there's a lot there and I have only ~5 minutes left now but in short, the way I see it the "world shutting down over a cold" was quite visible really; ie sure, "not visible over *what* specific silly thing" but very visible that it will; because it couldn't quite keep going on the way it was set, as simple as that, and so shut down it had to; it found this conveniently and matching but that's ...
diana_coman: ... quite irrelevant really.
diana_coman: anyways, I'll be back at the usual 7pm utc
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: ty, maybe I was just expecting a completely different flavor of silly thing. As recently as January Trump was teasing a serious thing to shut down over.
BingoBoingo would not have been around without the clarity of the US/fiatist system's immanent failure being immanent for a long time, but... damn this was sudden. And incredibly wrapped in pre-text
whaack: diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-30#1023270 I am not able to answer this question so easily. I cast a wide logging "fishing net" over 100 networks. About 40% escaped being logged for some reason or another. For the other networks it appears I was able to successfully log their most populated channels for sometime between 14 and 36 days.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-30 05:18:50 diana_coman: whaack: the more dubious otherwise overall issue there is what exactly IS that data of yours given that your process is not all that clear&reliable as far as I can tell; and you know, data needs context to mean anything.
whaack: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-30#1023273 << I would like to stay at the members level, aware that without change I am going to be wasting your time. I suggest we see how I can do this week and if I come up short again then we can call a spade a spade and put me in the hopefules section and formalize the reduce interaction I've had w/ younghands/#o. Things have been quite good
whaack: here for me, and I'm going to try to use the positives as fuel for motivation to get stuff done.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-30 05:24:04 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-30#1023247 - lolz, there's no need for nod or approval/disapproval; there's a concrete question for you to answer - do you still want the level of involvement at "members" level or would you prefer less of it ie "hopefuls" ?
whaack: Some of my logs - especially those written in lanaguages other than English - from TheFleet are filled with escape sequences from some encoding, I believe utf-8. Example: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=H9tu How should I go about displaying the characters determined by the escape sequences when I publish the logs on my blog? Or should I just leave them as is?
jfw: trinque, whaack: paste.deedbot.org throwing a 500
jfw: whaack: the logs are pretty big right? how about just linking a .sql.gz in uploads
jfw: nobody's going to read them straight through like an actual article
jfw: stats, however, would be interesting for the article
whaack: jfw: strange, no 500 over here
jfw: ah, the IP changed from my hosts file.
jfw: 96.43.130.234 now for (paste
whaack: jfw: My plan is to link the .sql.gz and then post some excerpts. I wanted to format those excerpts properly.
jfw: * {paste.,wot.,}deedbot.org
jfw: ah ok. IRC doesn't specify a character encoding so it's kind of a jungle, but things seem to be mostly utf8 these days from my limited samples.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-30 14:44:14 whaack: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-30#1023273 << I would like to stay at the members level, aware that without change I am going to be wasting your time. I suggest we see how I can do this week and if I come up short again then we can call a spade a spade and put me in the hopefules section and formalize the reduce interaction I've had w/ younghands/#o. Things have been quite good
jfw: whaack: I'd guess it's something in your pipeline that's adding the \x#### escapes
diana_coman: whaack: it's analysis, not excerpts you need to put in an article, lol; the raw data .sql/.csv (archived, sure or split if huge etc) but otherwise analysis with supporting charts or stats not excerpts (unless you are planning some even-more-time-consuming analysis but I seriously doubt that)
diana_coman: whaack: as a rule, raw data is raw data; if you do *any* filtering/cleaning/whatever, you can publish the result too but you need to clearly add to it the full description of what you did there.
diana_coman: trinque: I did set the flags for deedbot with chanserv; do let me know if it didn't work/something else is needed.
trinque: cool, lets see if it works
dorion: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023189 - thanks. I'm giving it a second read now and working on a comment.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-29 16:21:20 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023184 - BingoBoingo, lobbes, jfw, dorion, whaack let me know what you think there.
trinque: !!gettrust diana_coman trinque
deedbot: L1: 9, L2: 36 by 11 connections.
trinque: woohoo!
diana_coman: trinque: yeee!
trinque: looks good so far; if there are any problems just ping me and I'll fix.
diana_coman: trinque: is the wallet still with deedbot too?
trinque: yep, wallet works
trinque: !!balance
trinque: can do !!invoice in here, etc
diana_coman: cool; I take it, it's quite the same set of commands so the help is still up to date, correct?
whaack: diana_coman: Okay. My article I was baking for today/tomorrow was "how many channels/networks mentioned 'coronavirus', what were the conversations about 'coronavirus', etc." Should I keep with this or abort and just post some more general stats?
trinque: yep I've updated !!help. the only big change is the set of parameters to !!up and !!down
diana_coman: ah, I'll read it then and give it a spin; thanks!
diana_coman: whaack: uhm, what's the focus on coronavirus now? lolz
feedbot: http://younghands.club/2020/03/30/ar-review-march-23rd-29th-and-plan-march-30th-april-5/ << Young Hands Club -- AR Review March 23rd - 29th And Plan March 30th - April 5
diana_coman: are you planning to troll with "how many channels did coronavirus infect for lack of social-channel-isolation" or what?
whaack: diana_coman: I wanted to pick some example keyword, and I figured since "coronavirus" is a new string that has entered human heads it would perhaps lead me to some active conversations
whaack: ^ loll
diana_coman: ahaha, it's most likely less a topic of discussion than one of news & automated stuff really
diana_coman: and no, discussion is not defined by "keywords", lol
whaack: of course discussion is not defined by keywords, but searching for certain words over others maybe leads one to rooms where discussions occur?
diana_coman: do some proper stats first of all; how many users per logged chan; how many of those said how many lines per interval etc; start with the basic question which was "how much activity is where"
diana_coman: whaack: I can't see any logic there.
diana_coman: I mean maybe, sure, maybe anything; if you have the right incantation, it might lead you to where discussions occur, certainly.
diana_coman: whaack: now I realise that hm; are you even aware of different chart types and which ones are useful for showing/visualising what?
diana_coman: data visualisation is a huge domain in itself but hm, basics first; and in any case, start with the original question and aim first to have and publish a *summary of the data*; that being said, do mind if /how much rubbish your collection process might have inserted,ahem; data quality is yet another part of it,lolz.
diana_coman: whaack: on a basic level understand that the whole point of systematic anything is precisely != pick a magic word at random as it might lead somewhere better than another, lol.
whaack: diana_coman: ^ Hardly. Maybe this is just some excuse but I got so used to seeing charts of what I believed was biased data displayed by people I don't trust to make political arguments so I came to disregard the utility of graphs all together.
diana_coman: whaack: ahaha, poor graphs; they are not at fault there!
diana_coman: and yes, you can do lots of nonsense with pretty charts, certainly
diana_coman: hm, I had an example of doing exactly that, quite purposefully , hm
diana_coman: basically an "analysis" of the ...length of titles on trilema.com , lolz
whaack: I think more generally I became allergic to arguments that use data
diana_coman: with perfect charts and everything else, it was quite some fun.
diana_coman: whaack: lol; allergies are not that ..healthy
whaack: haha, well maybe in a couple years after I get a little farther with Spanish I'll start tackling Romanian and then be able to read the article
jfw: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-30#1023230 - I recall it as a number of grids fused together at odd angles to follow the curve of the coast
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-30 04:04:19 BingoBoingo: whaack: jfw can explain a bit the strange way my hood is laid out.
BingoBoingo: jfw: Aha, with the substantial danger in travel time of grids with many not-quite parallel streets
jfw: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-30#1023252 - they do, but their data is messier than their frontend bargains for. Eg: on http://bachcentral.com/BWV/index.html there's two different "28"s, that link to... the same detail page; and the #231 that was renamed at some unknown point to "28/2a" or some such, isn't shown at all. That was just the first thing I hit.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-30 05:05:46 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023202 - iirc bachcentral.com used to have something reasonable, don't they have it anymore?
diana_coman: jfw: heh, so ...genesis bach-werke-verzeichnis in the works?
jfw: diana_coman: quite possible, maybe I find some unemployed waiters to transcribe from paper
diana_coman: maybe I should even translate that illustration of nonsense through scientific method application, huh.
diana_coman: jfw: and then some unemployed chefs to correct the transcription? lolz
bvt: diana_coman: i've been updating vtools to bytewise keccak (for 2x perf improvement), and discovered a discrepancy between eucrypt.smg_keccak ch15 and ch16 behavior, the test case is at bvt-trace.net/pub/smg_keccak_test.tgz ; it seems that the transform at http://btcbase.org/patches/eucrypt_ch16_bytestream_keccak#L146 is not necessary (removing it fixes the issue), but i believe you're in a better position
bvt: to tell, as i did not do a deep dive into the impl and spec
diana_coman: bvt: interesting, thank you; I'll have a look at it.
jfw: diana_coman: I suppose it'd be inevitable.
diana_coman: bvt: the spec was SUCH a pain with the bits/bytes and order that ~anything is possible; but I'll need to get back to it as it's been quite a while; I'll let you know.
bvt: no problem
diana_coman: trinque: is the deposit amount in btc or in satoshis (ie float or int)?
diana_coman: also, the help page still lists RSS - does deedbot still do/do you plan it to do rss as well?
diana_coman: !!gettrust diana_coman
deedbot: L1: 0, L2: 58 by 18 connections.
diana_coman: ahaha, I don't trust myself AT ALL !
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diana_coman: !!up #ossasepia whaack
deedbot: whaack voiced for 30 minutes.
diana_coman: cool; I'll devoice everyone in my L1 - you should be able to !!up yourselves with deedbot ; if it doesn't work, pm me or trinque about it.
diana_coman: !!up cruciform2
deedbot: You may not !!up yourself.
diana_coman: trinque: ^ ?
diana_coman: !!up #ossasepia cruciform2
deedbot: cruciform2 voiced for 30 minutes.
diana_coman: ah, nm.
diana_coman: !!key cruciform2
deedbot: Not registered.
diana_coman: !!key cruciform
diana_coman: !!v 76EC35E7E4726FADE9C743B2D1097962734974B08E50572BAE9996C77BEAEC3C
deedbot: diana_coman rated cruciform 1 << YH hopeful.
diana_coman: cruciform2: you'll need to reconnect with the nick on which you registered the key and then try !!up with deedbot for voice.
diana_coman will be back tomorrow.
trinque: diana_coman: ah thanks, I've removed the reference to rss.
trinque: feedbot handles that very well.
trinque: incidentally spyked may I have feedbot in #trinque ?
jfw: !!v 237CEA2FADE8B436ADEA99C798C0E85B8DBC58377333ACAD05E2536DC7FDAD27
deedbot: jfw rated jfw_unchecked 10 << Me, per http://welshcomputing.com/jfw_unchecked-cert.asc
jfw: I've been thinking it's high time for a genesis of the Gales Linux repository, and ideally to cut down on the inclusion of tarballs by reference. Post-TMSR-OS or no, JWRD's using Gales now so we need to keep it maintained. In theory, I'm seeing making a stronger division between base system and gports, where the former lives entirely in-tree and the latter remains tarballs on a mirror. In
jfw: practice, another cut seems important, of importing the "almost-human-sized-if-you-squint" stuff (busybox, e2fsprogs, make, lilo, daemontools, gksh, ...), and leaving the truly massive ones that might benefit anyway from greater version flexibility namely linux and gcc.
jfw savors the thought of some day ripping the Unicode tables out of musl, wondering what will break
lobbes: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-30#1023258 << thank you (as usual I'm glad I asked!). Okay, in that case I'm going to aim to get my review for March + plan for April out by Wednesday.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-30 05:10:51 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023211 - no problem at all there; that's the whole point - find what works best within the overall framework which is structured so you have something to lean on but is not set in concrete to suffocate anything.
lobbes: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-30#1023261 << lol, yeah that is true; I may have exaggerated a bit there. "Reflect/recharge/etc" is a more apt description indeed
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-30 05:12:33 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023213 - fwiw that sounds more like "need to digest/reflect/take a break"; it doesn't really have to come with "sick of it" though, lolz.
lobbes: diana_coman: I also wanted to ask you: assuming that I get the mp-wp bot logger thing to the point where you'd want to try it for #ossasepia, would you want to host it on one of your existing boxes or would you want a fresh one?
lobbes: I ask because I'm still renting that server in Brasil and don't mind holding it for a bit if you'd have a use for it. Otherwise, I'm gonna go ahead and cancel it and save some dubaloos
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