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scoopbot: New article on A Syndication of Verisimilitudes: An Ada UDP POSIX Sockets Binding
signpost: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-05#1093109 << and I'll be back again, and again, and again...
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-04-05 22:23:57 phf: or i may simply be a single drop of rain, but i will remain
signpost: my heart lifts at "I fly a starship..."
signpost: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-05#1093143 << this sliding window of manliness is both true and necessary, or the thing doesn't slide.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-04-05 22:45:07 mats: in a thousand years men will be wistfully chatting about how there aren't any men hopping from rock to rock in nothing more than an aluminium can, a tank of air, and gravity assist
signpost: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-05#1093156 << horses are vehicles you have to treat like family. have lived on a ranch with 'em, fuck 'em.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-04-05 22:54:27 mats: was never a scholar-horseman, classics don't interest me anymore and horses have a tightly linked mental association with parasite class that loves watching Yellowstone and owning hobby farms
signpost: upstack, it was 100% the soviet "sic itur ad astra" that motivated the planet into space in earnest.
signpost: so much so that the piggies across the ocean deployed their captured german to hit the moon with an ICBM first.
signpost: and notably, not shit but extracting efficiency from established technology has happened since.
signpost misses soviet utopianism by proxy, almost.
vex: gotta play the cards at hand
vex: i intend to live forever
vex: just missed it
verisimilitude: My latest article has interesting timing, it seems.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-04-06 00:18:00 signpost: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-05#1093156 << horses are vehicles you have to treat like family. have lived on a ranch with 'em, fuck 'em.
vex: dont fall off << protip
vex: PeterL, you oughtta see a cattle dog jump off the back of a ute. thing rolls into a ball until dogspeed, then keeps running
verisimilitude: Would making a Binance account help improve my standing here, mats?
vex: dog'l' go to jail forver to prtrect house
vex: if you don't have a reason to binance; i'd say no
vex: dunno your circumstances beyone why ameteur pshchiatry
verisimilitude: Allow me to help, vex. This is simple mockery.
vex: oh. i see
vex: ppl don't always know what you're on about
vex: are you skitzoid? you've said some viloent thinghs?
verisimilitude: Some of those violent things are jokes.
vex: cool. samew here
verisimilitude: I do seem to have ``schizoid personality disorder''.
vex: evident
vex: you don't find too many friends huh?
vex: i think you're pretty norml
verisimilitude: No, I don't.
vex: honestly, i don't undertand the situation
verisimilitude: Neither do I.
vex: it's okay man
vex: i dreamt that i left my thongs outside a shop
vex: I woke up with another set.
vex: somone stole my thongs
vex: nothing even happened
mangol: vex is the weed to adlai's acid?
vex: i'd love to revist that 1995
vex: people like verisimilitude are hard to trust.
vex: yrp
vex: i love the cunt. don't get me wrong
vex: mangol is to snow as vex it to hot
mangol: still snowy here
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-04-05 22:48:11 asciilifeform: moar folx flying 'cessna' than mig, recreationally
vex: hot here
vex: can't buy an f18 yet
mangol: fi just bought some f35s for gigabucks
mangol: "it is part of our long-term planning and has nothing to do with the current situation as such"
vex: harrier ftw
mangol: canned heat were biker hippies? interesting combo
vex: C17 AINT NO JOKE
vex: accidectal caps
mangol: arguably so was lemmy at one time, or close enough anyway. seems bikerdom helped avoid most of the hippie excess
vex: i hope wer'e sending an acdc cd with a bushmaster]
vex: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5adE83TYzQ hiding the beer under the seats
mangol: looking into this field confirms a lot of the "that's odd - why hasn't anyone thought of this?" hunches i've had about programming over the years
mangol: indeed, other people have had the same hunches, drawn the conclusions i didn't quite dare to draw, and worked out a lot of the implications
mats: verisimilitude: a real neonazi wouldn't consider learning greek
asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
busybot: Current BTC price in USD: $44047.41
asciilifeform: !w poll
watchglass: Polling 15 nodes...
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asciilifeform: !q seen BingoBoingo
dulapbot: BingoBoingo last seen here on 2022-02-28 12:49:43: In the past month US down ~19% versus Brasil's Real, 5.3% versus Peso Uruguay
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: yer subscription expired apr. 3. do you intend to renew ?
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-04-06 00:51:55 verisimilitude: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-06#1093194 Tell me more about fucking horses, signpost.
signpost: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-05#1093098 << it's a convenient narrative for rulers, which should at least arouse suspicion. it took a lot of work to deskill, impoverish, neuter, the "untermenschen".
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-04-05 21:55:08 asciilifeform: ... as otherwise 'the swine will overconsume'. but is bulk of bipeds necessarily swine ? imho unknown
signpost: why so much work, if western man has a walmart in his soul?
signpost: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-05#1093101 << it's long been my line about the blacks that "drink water without lead, change diet, grow up without childhood terror, then let's measure IQ"
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-04-05 22:01:22 phf: possibly that my statement was incomplete, and you need other elements besides leisure, that are at present missing. i don't know how else to account for funkopop marvel generation.
signpost: same applies to other lowered and lowering groups.
signpost ftr is an average american grunt that fed himself what education he could find.
signpost: went to public school, dropped out of state college.
signpost: still managed to eat some of the classics, and more recent philosophers.
signpost: it's broken will I'd blame first for decay.
signpost worked at $megacorp with people who had PhDs in compsci, still riven with fear that they weren't capable enough.
verisimilitude: Maybe they weren't.
verisimilitude: I'm not a neo nazi, mats.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-06#1093285 << current reich quite fundamentally based on deliberate, methodical mass enswinement.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-04-06 11:55:42 signpost: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-05#1093098 << it's a convenient narrative for rulers, which should at least arouse suspicion. it took a lot of work to deskill, impoverish, neuter, the "untermenschen".
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-25 15:18:32 asciilifeform: see also e.g.
verisimilitude: So, asciilifeform, how does my UDP binding compare to thine?
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: loox like exactly what you described (i.e. similar to asciilifeform's mmap binding, where imports instead of .c)
asciilifeform: likely will suffer the same potential platform headaches as the latter
verisimilitude: I was finished with it weeks ago, but only finished the documentation yesterday.
verisimilitude: I'll bind over it with a nicer interface later, to put the box in a box.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: were you thinking of writing a pestron? (or why udp)
PeterL: verisimilitude: why do you sometimes right-align and sometimes left-alight the items to the left of the colon?
verisimilitude: Yes, asciilifeform, and it will be used for other programs.
verisimilitude: It looks better, PeterL.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-04-06 03:24:20 mangol: indeed, other people have had the same hunches, drawn the conclusions i didn't quite dare to draw, and worked out a lot of the implications
PeterL: wouldn't it look better if you were consistent?
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-06#1093247 << tribute collection. erry reich satrapy is expected to buy some # of the flying clothes iron
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-04-06 02:41:45 mangol: fi just bought some f35s for gigabucks
dulapbot: Logged on 2020-08-12 13:14:04 asciilifeform: consider, e.g. manhattan project -- reportedly cost ~50 bil $ in today's $. f35 -- over $trillion.
verisimilitude: No, PeterL.
PeterL: when glancing at the code, if the next line is indented further, it should be a child of the current line. So I think adding whitespace inside the line instead of at the beginning is a much better way to align them
PeterL: do you have a better explanation for the inconsistency?
PeterL: I mean, I would understand if you right aligned all of them - if that is what you think looks better, but why mix the two formats in one file?
verisimilitude: Sometimes there be a common suffix, instead of common prefix.
mangol: http://logs.bitdash.io/asciilifeform/2022-04-06#1093313 << in .fi case also informal nato membership application (part xyz). we and .se are more or less the last holdouts, but the impatience is palpable
bitbot: Logged on 2022-04-06 17:10:34 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-06#1093247 << tribute collection. erry reich satrapy is expected to buy some # of the flying clothes iron
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-04-06 02:41:45 mangol: fi just bought some f35s for gigabucks
dulapbot: Logged on 2020-08-12 13:14:04 asciilifeform: consider, e.g. manhattan project -- reportedly cost ~50 bil $ in today's $. f35 -- over $trillion.
mangol: nato just shipped tons of hardware to baltic states on pretext of ukr
asciilifeform: mangol: shipped bill also or is installment plan ?
mangol: asciilifeform: i got the impression usg "temporarily" moved their own hardware to the baltics, and also made the baltics promise to buy stuff for themselves
mangol: nice to have standard hardware across nato, especially when it's us-made and expensive as hell
mangol: .se make affordable and versatile fighter jets, not sure if they'll get any orders from europe anymore
asciilifeform: will be moar interesting subj once the various hyped flying irons actually square off
asciilifeform: atm is rather like situation w/ tanks in 1920s. erryone insists theirs 'versatile' etc
mangol: re: us aerospace, can't tell which project is more absurd, the F35 or the SLS
PeterL: SLS -> sodium lauryl sulfate?
signpost: space launch system
asciilifeform: 'The test was scrubbed on Monday after a manual valve was, for some reason, left closed when it should’ve been open.' << random fishwrap
mangol: sls test?
asciilifeform: apparently
mangol: also known as the Senate Lunch System
mangol: they're not even making a new engine
mangol: i was out of date on the .se fighter planes: the new saab gripen has been sold at a unit cost even higher than the F35
mangol: somehow feels weird to spend so much money on fighters. are we really to believe this is the decisive factor in current gen warfare?
mangol: reading various analysts, they don't even seem to agree on what kind of war is current gen
mangol: the most hardcore position basically is that anything except nukes and cheap drones is a waste of money
asciilifeform: mangol: the planes seem to be optimized for embezzlement & tribute collection, rather than flight
mangol: + conventional missiles
mangol: indeed
PeterL: planes are part of creating and maintaining air superiority, they also function as an easy way for politicians to brag about "spending money on defense"
mangol: for most countries on the planet, effective defense = bow down to most favorable superpower
PeterL: "nobody would dare invade us, we spent $megabucks on our military"
signpost: seems well established that nobody's invading US, CN, RU in their present forms.
mangol: why invade when you can subvert the target country from within
mangol: probably the only way to destroy a superpower
asciilifeform: mangol: 1 traditional aspect of the subversion is to get opponent to burn resources. incl. on wunderwaffen.
mangol: indeed. china has been quietly buying up US property and bribing like nobody's business
signpost: would be mighty entertaining if the counterpunch against reaganism, is reaganism.
mangol: aka reaganomics?
signpost: specifically the attempt to bankrupt the soviets via method mentioned by asciilifeform
mangol: ah, classic. but did "star wars" cause soviets to overspend in an arms race?
verisimilitude: I really started being less concerned about China when they were beaten in a skirmish by India.
mangol: china is formidable as an economic and to some extent cultural force, not so much military
verisimilitude: Of course, I'm not concerned anyway, because what would my concern do?
verisimilitude: If the US collapses, plenty of Chinese are going to starve to death anyway.
verisimilitude: I may as well be concerned with what god thinks of me; it will have the same effect.
signpost: mangol: I'm not an expert, but the usual narrative within the US is that Reagan's programs prompted expensive soviet projects like Buran, new rockets, space weaponry attempts.
signpost: not sure whether the expense of these were of major impact, or whether the failures were just some of many within the larger context of dissolution.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-04-06 00:18:00 signpost: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-05#1093156 << horses are vehicles you have to treat like family. have lived on a ranch with 'em, fuck 'em.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-03-31 16:51:47 signpost: was raised fundie as it gets, but maps 100% of current events onto unremarkable human failings.
signpost: sure, perhaps horse maintenance is enjoyable absent having a shitty time on a farm. will readily grant.
phf: also when boarding is handled by somebody else, etc. :)
signpost: this for sure, the riding was fun.
phf: i /know/ that i'm turning annoying about the whole horse thing, but i'd be honest, after the first few months of riding i had very much the feeling of "why was i not informed!"
signpost: nah, companionship with animals which spent a long time coevolving with humans is nice.
signpost: verisimilitude is going to make a horse-fucking joke again.
phf: rumi did it better
signpost has however shoveled horse/cow/misc shit enough for one lifetime.
signpost: lol, had just found it on my end.
signpost: what a beautiful teaching indeed.
phf: of course there's also a very mp comment from mp on the subject http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-26#1559192
phf: i forgot we had that thread
signpost: phf: he was bothered by the idea of moderation on principle.
asciilifeform: phf, signpost : lulzy re gourd. somehow forgot that thrd. ( subj is in fact mentioned in an underground orcish classic, 'notes of an undisciplined officer', re: kazahs )
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-06#1093373 << damn near errything is best when 'maintenance by somebody else'. like thompson's mig.
dulapbot: Logged on 2022-04-06 15:03:56 phf: also when boarding is handled by somebody else, etc. :)
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