shinohai: wow Tenn the guy lives mebbe 6 hours from me lol
shinohai: Nah I live close to that shithole Atlanta.
shinohai: Though I could just move to Colombia and start a harem, as you suggest
a111: Logged on 2015-10-10 17:48 mircea_popescu: "here's the laws and and if you don't like it, you can leave" "i'll go join the people that'll fuck you up" "o wait you can't leave" "does that mean you admit your laws are dumb ?" "nope" "does that make you a hypocritical idiot ? " "no it doesnt!!1"
mircea_popescu: anyway - the statal response to this sort of "situation" is very much modelled on the bomb disarming philosophy : "oh, you want to blow ? fine, now you have to, while we try to manipulate the context so that you're not effective"
mircea_popescu: not a hard task, either : its reach has to be negative.
mircea_popescu: the difference between qntra article detailing embarrassing illiteracy of uk supreme court and cancer cell the surgeon missed is just about nil.
mircea_popescu: i dunno who recalls the history of irc ; but for the sake of recording : it was originally a finnish bb extension ; it quickly spread throughout finland then to swedish network ; then various us universities applied to be accepted and were. then it was used to report on the gorbachev coup, through a "media blocade", after being similarly useful during the gulf war.
mircea_popescu: ie, irc is what "social media" idly pretends to have been. notwithstanding that digg and myspace went away, as reddit and facebook will go away. irc has been here throughout, and will probably see the successor websites putting forth the same sort of plowing flies idle pretensions. for idiots to believe ; and everyone else to laugh.
mircea_popescu: obviously, deed-and-paste is much more reliable for a disrupted flow sort of situation. more generally : improvements can and do exist. it's just that they never come from the state.
mircea_popescu: just like the us carefully popped each and every single bulb in the previous "club of unalligned nations", russia fucked around with its better neighbours.
mircea_popescu: yugo - gone ; egypt - gone ; worth looking through the list, it's pretty much the dod blueprint.
mircea_popescu: "hey, you got bitcoin now, time to end this nonsensical abomination" "okaY"
mircea_popescu: besides the navigators were italian dutch and portuguese, not really spanish.
mircea_popescu: moreover this is the answer an actually competent scholar would give to amateur efforts a la yarvin's "oh, how could these people believe such nonsense WITHOIUT EVIDENCE".
mircea_popescu: that evidence doesn't meet your standard is irrelevant - stuff like "ship across atlantic" very neatly met theirs.
mircea_popescu: "we are living in a time of witchdom, how else did the ocean get bridged"
mircea_popescu: unawareness of such "invisible" subtleties then lead one on wild goose chases of theoretical constructs with little basis in anything but tobacco he smoked.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform recall, guy has a piece about witches and whatnot.
mircea_popescu: somewhere in the foundations of his "unitarian church" series.
mircea_popescu: it is ; but this isn't the problem. the problem is that he's proceeded in the "Scientific American" manner of contemporary MIT engineering. he created a "hockey stick pattern" out of putting some data through a process that always yields a hockey stick pattern ; data that he's obtained from extrapolating a tiny dataset of dubious relevancy (ie, last week's tv guide contents).
mircea_popescu: the objection is methodological. i am saying yarvin is not a thinker.
mircea_popescu: moreover, his notions of paul graham as the victim scarcely meet yours. for that matter mine - it is rare to see a confessed ponzi fraudster go free to "advise" young people on "their careers".
mircea_popescu: i don't see at this point what exactly could happen to graham that'd be on the strength of his public record unwarranted.
mircea_popescu: there is that. but then again - we don't care about results, purpose or consequence here at tmsr.
mircea_popescu: sorry, i couldn't hear you over the moans. then there's what ?
mircea_popescu: it may surprise the esteemed audience to find that i have never ever done laundry, in any capacity. not as much as load a load into a machine.
mircea_popescu: this wasn't a deliberate thing. it just never happened. i fully intend to do it once, if i have occasion.
mircea_popescu: very similarly to how i fully intend to jack off once. just as soon as i have occasion.
mircea_popescu: i suppose this is what folks have in mind that go livid just after muttering "privilege" with clenched fists.
mircea_popescu: i suppose this sounds closer to parody than anything by now huh ? a well.
mircea_popescu: men are creatures of habit, there's i'm told "de facto designated areas" anyway.
shinohai: Quite possibly a superior use of the hardware
a111: Logged on 2015-03-28 03:15 Adlai: some of the devices shipped with teh sticker glued to the wrong side
mircea_popescu: problem is the seal relies on a certain environment. to work it requires a population of mit engineers "as they pretend to be" rather than "as they are"
mircea_popescu: ie, a bunch of "garage chemists" grown up, so to speak.
mircea_popescu: in and of themselves, seals are just another religious artefact
mircea_popescu: another heuristic ruined, "so you shot a guy in the face ?" "oh yeah" "describe how it looks" is no longer an absolute bar to redditards.
BingoBoingo: bits and pieces, but the gist I get is pseudo-mantadory middlemen break markets
BingoBoingo: Because how the fuck do you price milk if only one buyer from dairies and seller to consumers exists?
BingoBoingo: kinda the whole problem with extant fiat/Bitcoin interfaces on a more familiar scale
mircea_popescu: fucking argentines and their "lyrical" tango. god damned. these people have no idea.
mircea_popescu: the ENTIRE FUCKING POINT of the tango is the sharp end of measures. you have a fuzzy exp that concentrates in a glowing hot tip. that's a tango.
mats: it appears that more than a kg of cocaine was sold on teh sr!
BingoBoingo: too huge, will negatively affect our African readers with GSM connections
mats: just making a dig. specifically, in reference to 'This is why two years later the famous marketplace was struggling to move one kilogram of cocaine, and this is why it took them three weeks to make the sale, and this is why it actually had to be the owner buying it on his own account : because SR makes no economic sense whatsoever.'
mats starts slogging through 'U.S. v. Burchard'
mircea_popescu: mats "was struggling to move one kilogram" ie, "this inept prude is struggling to take a 7 inch cock up her ass" not "the total volume of shit she ever shat to become the 29 yo loser she is doesn't ammount to the volume of a 7 inch penis"
mircea_popescu: kinda got nixed ; but if there's an artist in audience, mebbe i can get bb to reconsider.
mats: "On June 3,2015 I learned that publicly available information indicated David BURCHARD, **** Duke Ct, Merced, California 95340, had registered or attempted to register and trademark the phrase "caliconnect." After obtaining this information, HSI Fresno investigators began to search Reddit and other publicly available websites for the username "caliconnect"
mats: and discovered comments and reviews from individuals claiming to have ordered marijuana from a dark-web vendor going by the online username "caliconnect."
mircea_popescu: mats seriously, the pile of unexploited comedy gold in that "community driven" "dao-based security" thing is staggering.
mircea_popescu: and i'd just as well like to have it well exposed and catalogued to bitchslap the gwern-ish wikipedia/lesswrong/niceonline beta bois and assorted imbeciles.
mircea_popescu: tbh they're more pernicious and a larger threat to sugar, spice and everything nice than bumbling "law enforcement" could ever hope to be.
mats: this is p good qntra material
shinohai: r/darknetmarkets is an infosec lulzmine
danielpbarron: asciilifeform> who, i wonder, was the lucky dude << some guy caught in isis-land writing anti-isis graffiti
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> kinda got nixed ; but if there's an artist in audience, mebbe i can get bb to reconsider. << Would also break Qntra's branding history. Perhaps if someone wanted to start an "Online Culture Magazine" it may have a place in the header of that as per
http://trilema.com/the-boy-blog-network
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ah, you're pretty much set on rabbit 4 eva ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, history is its own asset class.
mircea_popescu: it did end up put in there in response to events though, it's not deductively derived from qntra substance
BingoBoingo: How many more reddit girlies can we make feel reflexive disgust at rabbits because truth? This needs to be answered.
danielpbarron: I once went to the trouble of creating an account on either silkroad or one of the things that came after in order to buy twatter followers for an ex-friend of mine (he thought he was really good at social media, obsessed over follower/following ratio, yet only had 50 followers) -- he didn't ask for this; I thought it would be funny to freak him out. Anyway, stupid vendor I contacted via GPG-gram replies in plaintext that he can't
BingoBoingo: It's a brand. As much as marketing is a scam, branding does matter.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron lol. the interwebs are full of that though, why bother with "Darknet"
danielpbarron: wish I bought a silkroad t-shirt on the original silkroad. prolly the one interesting thing for sale on the whole lot of them
mats: "BURCHARD used a program called GPG4USB, which automatically used Burchard's Pretty Good Privacy (PGP) private key to decrypt messages sent to him from customers."
shinohai: shit BingoBoingo i fergot to archive.is the sauce
mats: also, "Other HSI investigators and I reviewed approximately 977 transactions involving "Caliconnect" on the Silk Road and determined that approximately 977 transactions involving "Caliconnect" on the Silk Road and determined that approximately 704 pounds of marijuana and approximately 10.5 grams of cocaine were sold to customers located throughout the United
mats: States... Among the data provided to me by the FBI on this list, "Caliconnect" was the third largest U.S.-based vendor on the Silk Road in terms of total sales."
ben_vulpes: so all the 'omg drugs' propaganda produced ~0 actual effect on the mans professional career
mats: iirc the controversy in question was over a vidya of him taking a bong rip
mats: which is increasingly moar culturally acceptable in .us
mats: prepare for teh smug
mircea_popescu: in other news, "Recreational marijuana is available to residents and non-residents of Colorado, however you must be 21 years old and older to purchase or possess. Only licensed retail marijuana stores may sell retail marijuana.
mircea_popescu: by now "pot smuggling" is right up there with hawking concert tickets.
ben_vulpes: hasn't been an interesting hustle for over half a decade now.
phf: man, that shotgun to the head is nasty. i wouldn't want confederate rabbit to get replaced by it
ben_vulpes: now, the rollup and consolidation of pot retail operations on the other hand, is going to be a fun project.
mircea_popescu: so if the "ideal man" moved from porn in the 90s to pot in the 00s to what in 2010 ?
ben_vulpes: bit of a stretch to say that ideal man was moving pots in the aughts
mircea_popescu: and i guess it was what, rock band roadie in the 80s ? cocksucker blues et all ?
ben_vulpes: heh yeah my dad has some great stories about following the dead around
mircea_popescu: but yeah, the spot to be today would be... the guy telling people what to do at burning man or somesuch i guess.
phf: "and then we dropped acid and it was awesome. and then we dropped acid again, and it was awesome again" kind of stories..
mircea_popescu: phf gotta cut the old folks some slack ; for them getting slobber on ballsack is a lifechanging sort of event.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller gotta love the "of course i'm outraged". somehow this made sense to him.
ben_vulpes: is anyone doing the "buy bitfinex coins at a ridoinculous discount" thing yet?
mircea_popescu: ~same reason nobody sane is doing the "buy ethereum" whatever.
mircea_popescu: anyone was around / recalls the discussions with the naive "mtgox debt" buyers ? back in the day ? pirate debt buyers ? back in THAT day ?
a111: I haven't seen onefixt
phf: that might be in the even older logs
phf: ah, it's that case sensitive search..
a111: 2014-06-22 <OneFixt> mine is not at all easy to dump unfortunately
mats: i put a few coins down for a bet, sure hope the operator doesn't fly away
shinohai: i was kinda unsure if I should place hard-earned dust into it
mats: not my finest moment
mircea_popescu: it's fucking fascinating to read anglo reviews of fine italian cinema. a more stark light to display the fundamental inadequacy of that subculture in understanding anything worth thinking about could scarcely be found.
mircea_popescu: James Kendrick Q Network Film Desk "Adriana's essential vacuity, central as it is the film's point, doesn't give us enough to hold onto, so by the time the narrative is winding its way to its climax, everything has blurred into one long rush of nothing."
phf: man is describing his sex life
mircea_popescu: and how commodously they give themselves the trophy, too. ADRIANA'S vacuity, you see. hers, not theirs. they know this. because...
mircea_popescu: oh but it goes without sayng, it's a... it's a no brainer is what it is.
mircea_popescu: the fact that for any possible test other than timescale itself, she could already be una vecchia and nobody could tell the difference escapes notice.
mircea_popescu: out of 9 "top critics" in syndication, two pass the blurb test : village voice's atkinson and slant magazine's dillard. this is the fucking bar, "write one sentence that doesn't mark you for idiocy", 2/9 specialists pass.
mircea_popescu: every single college graduate should fucking pass omfg.
mircea_popescu: michael atkinson gets it ; and he knows his shit. clayton dillard has absolutely no fucking idea what's going on. i think he smokes towels or something.
mircea_popescu: out of the 9, 1 is competent and the other's a shannonizing pass.
phf: mircea_popescu: link to atkinson review?
mircea_popescu: "A generation-defining movie in Italy, I Knew Her Well is that rare saga of the never-was, immersed, like its heroine, in daydreams, numb to its own heartbreak."
mircea_popescu: threatens to become very much a generation-defining movie in the colonies, also.
shinohai: well that was wrong buffer certainly
mircea_popescu: so basically costs more to fix than new laptop. such cost to carry...
ben_vulpes: i think i have one sitting in the "library of machines to cannibalize when the future demands"
ben_vulpes: mnno, these are not for repair, but for migration to as the oldest give out
ben_vulpes: nor are these "daily drivers", being nearly antiques already
mircea_popescu: you know, before the whole "terrorists" bullshit started, i used to enjoy reading police reports.
mircea_popescu: essentially, you get a barely literate, tired man who dun wanna do it, coerced into summarizing the lives of other derps.
mircea_popescu: it's consistently going to deliver ; not as greatly as the heights of fiction, true, but rarely as poorly as its pits.
mircea_popescu: "really... they did that ?" "oh, and then let's see, so the situation is x, i guess next they... burn the house down. ayup... they did."
mircea_popescu: ye scarecrow fighting don quijote that there's no other : poverty = stupidity. never was the converse contemplated.
mircea_popescu: the "cleverness" of poor people is no different from the "security" of windows.
mircea_popescu: but i note you're not actually confronting the ridiculousness of your earlier conflation.
phf: i'd pay those guys for simply making 60 year old's life a bit more interesting. i think old man is just walking out on a tab
mircea_popescu: phf 6mn tho ? i mean... that nicole whatever chick, she did it for free!
phf: that's after how many years though?
mircea_popescu: in related lulz, while i was visiting mass at some point there was a huge todo because some woman had a child with a ~dead~ fortune owner. and the family was trying to exclude her.
phf: works out to about 500k a year
mircea_popescu: i'd expect more for 500k/year than those two schmucks.
phf: yeah, 500k is a bit too much..
mircea_popescu: well, probate cases, that's what they are. a judge ends up with 55 people in a room all clamoring.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the nicole smith case is interesting because of how perfectly she played the lizzards off each other. step 1: got one disowned brother to ally with her agains the other ; step 2 : declared bankruptcy, forcing california bankruptcy court into dispute with texas probate court.
mircea_popescu: STEP 3! SCROTUS picked up the case, bush had solicitor general intercede, because wanting to get more federal jurisdiction over state probate cases.
mircea_popescu: it was a horror ; the baby was born iirc 13 months after the man's demise and their dna matched.
mircea_popescu: i didn't witness it per se, it was just "the talk fo the town" so to speak. at least among a certain set.
mircea_popescu: there's an array of "possible explanations", including that women do in some cases actually naturally conserve sperm.
mircea_popescu: there is no such "known". that's the point of the experts.
mircea_popescu: you get you call your expert to say so, if you can find one
mircea_popescu: VERY MUCH, much more than commonly realised, in the way the us works is predicated on a "can you afford one" system of qualifications.
mircea_popescu: that you'd be living there as opposed to, say, argentina, while entertaining these ridoinculous "not all poor people are imbeciles" delusions is pretty nutty in itself.
mircea_popescu: you want to live in that alt-world where not all poor people are by that fact imbeciles, move to a juntos vencemos place, live with the slime.
mircea_popescu: there's "inner worth" places still. generally, villages and rural areas.
mircea_popescu: ie specifically the sort of arrangement you don't seem to like.
mircea_popescu: six to a room, from 6 to 60yo, every sperm is sacred, that jazz.
mircea_popescu: that they actually try to pretend what you try to pretend, "poverty is not automatically disqualifying"
mircea_popescu: why ? if "i'd love to chat you up but i gotta hurry back to work" applies, boy's poor, and girl either moves on or doesn't.
mircea_popescu: if she doesn't, you've got a sort of place. if she does, you've got another sort of place.
mircea_popescu: you insist in living in one while holding the ideology of the other.
mircea_popescu: again - the test is given. what, you expect this to be resolved from hitler's own throne, administratively and universally, as if somehow universal knowledge is possible ?
mircea_popescu: what's this, "i'll consider looking at how nonsensical my nonsense is if you bake in this other nonsense" ?
mircea_popescu: but yes, upon examination it's obvious we don't agree on "the definition of poverty". you apparently imagine it is a boolean ; and idiocy also.
mircea_popescu: let's put it this way : in any situation when symbol.poverty is defined, symbol.idiocy is also defined and equals 1.
mircea_popescu: mno. if it ever makes sense to say "i am poor", in whatever context, for whatever reason, EVER ; it then therefore and for this reason as sole and sufficient it also makes sense to say "i am stupid".
a111: Logged on 2016-03-14 16:36 mircea_popescu: there's a bunch of people who, however poor may they be irl, are still not driven by the poverty so to speak.
mircea_popescu: but in any case, should the operator be interested in resolving the poverty issue, the solution is always and without exception being less stupid ; notwithstanding that the tempting path usually taken is being more stupud, for some reason reminescent of that great pacino monologue in devil's advocate.
mircea_popescu: there's pretty much nothing i can say about it, turns out.
mircea_popescu: i'm not even convinced "summon nazi alien troops, massacre anyone" is solution.
mircea_popescu: money's always there ; i guess there's no coins, bills, whatever.
phf: "be less stupid" might possibly be a cellular automaton. you can take steps according to certain rules, but the state of less stupid is emergent
mircea_popescu: phf the problem becomes rapidly complex as the tasks involved go above "i would like my snatch to not stink"
mircea_popescu: generally complexity-reducing rules are for instance much more effectual as a class than ~anything else.
mircea_popescu: hence why the various complex fabulations of the psycho-overactive are so dimly regarded.
mircea_popescu: the number 4 in there isn't comparable to the number 4 as you compared it ; they're different things.
mircea_popescu: all math and no physics makes scientist a socialist!!11
mircea_popescu: in the context it was used, "i would like my snatch to not stink" made up the whole of the universe ; in the context you used it, it's part of a larger universe. this comparison is invalid.
mircea_popescu: i said "phf the problem becomes rapidly complex as the tasks involved go above "i would like my snatch to not stink"". this is a statement of the nature of, "geometry becomes rapidly longer as the number of possible dimensions goes above 1". you said "and i never for a moment disagreed with 'snatch stinks? yer poor & stupid'". this is a statement of the nature of "if you only describe one dimension, you suck at geometry". thi
mircea_popescu: s is nonsensical, because the "1" was also "all". a geometry describing one dimension in a world where only one dimension may exist is not any worse than a geometry describing three in a world with three. they're exactly the same thing : the complete story of geometry.
mircea_popescu: (the agreement i inferred to have with phf as a result of that statement was "it's not even clear what sort of hyperexponential is involved, it grows so fast". we don't have any sort of upper bounds.)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly, a specific definition of poverty is, much like euler's god, not actually necessary for this discussion.
mircea_popescu: i said "a specific definition is not required for the discussion", you opted to stuff some nonsense into that.
mircea_popescu: "what kind of house can i build if you and your wife aren't seated on a couch watching tv as we build the walls around you!!!1"
mircea_popescu: the couch really is not your business, we're discussing whether this beam is horizontal or not, and if these angles sum up to the right value.
mircea_popescu: depends on the concept of stupidity involved, really. they're not separate.
mircea_popescu: ie, some definitions of stupidity require universal poverty. as for instance documented re argentina.
mircea_popescu: these people can't be rich no matter what the fuck happens to them.
mircea_popescu: as proven by the fact that they have to date meaninglessly squandered ~5 fortunes.
mircea_popescu: first, the german made them rich buying leather to make the pikehauberk. then, grain in ww2. then borrowed. then defaulted. then borrowed. etc.
mircea_popescu: they're poorer than they've ever been ; people point and laugh at venezuela, but venezuela never fucking had the blessing of such an euro outpour.
mircea_popescu: sure. but the ineptitude of the junker class is well documented ; and i daresay well understood.
mircea_popescu: but really, voltaire actually had a fine blueprint, EARLY. they just didn't read him.
mircea_popescu: eh, "degenerate russian aristocrats" is simply french wanna-be ism. nothing russian there.
mircea_popescu: there's at least the french sensationalism and the nordic solipsism variants.
mircea_popescu: classification is obviously a function of classifier's patience. "all butterflies are moths and that's good enough for a day's work."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, depends which set of magazines made it across the overflowing rivers that spring, you know.
mircea_popescu: "russian aristocracy" would have paraded nude with a bone-done hairdo, if it came to it.
mircea_popescu: or sit around and smoke and meditate. the "absconse scottish lord" figure in british literature very much typifies the trope.
mircea_popescu: anyway. there's a deep reason hitler "beloved bayern". it's complicated, all this flow, but in the end - the "treuloser Feinglinge" version of the dolchstoss libel, while factually unsubstantiated, is entirely comprehensible historically.
mircea_popescu: i've been kinda waiting for the proper greek drama of "hitler as the executor of his own demise through countering his allies' enmity as best he can"
mod6: asciilifeform: is nsa's trb down?
mircea_popescu: incidentally, as we were discussing probate lulz in the us recently :
mircea_popescu: so doris duke was this rando slut inheriting some decent chunk of change from the guy who owned lucky strike. she did all sorts of things, including funding duke university. then she died and left a will, naming her butler as executioner, leaving duke 10mn and stipulating that anyone contesting the will is to get nothing.
mircea_popescu: within a decade of her death, her chosen executor was replaced by us court ; morgan stanley president ; duke uni president and some other dubious schmucks appointed executors
mod6: connect() failed after select(): Connection refused
mod6: we'll see. oh shit, duh, you're blocking me anyway.
mod6: how did this work before i wonder lol?
mircea_popescu: the various things the woman wanted financed got defunded "for perpetuating the Duke family history of personal passions and conspicuous consumption". and well... this being in 2004 i imagine the money is by now well spent by the usg.
mod6: i keep forgetting that. my bad.
mod6: asciilifeform: it's a test env
mod6: as soon as there is a non-us wot-enabled btc provider... i might think about a bare metal thing for this.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, nannerl o keohane, at the time duke head, is certainly a fine example of lizard dome architect.
mircea_popescu: this is why folks behead any and all bureaucrats every 7 years.
mod6: <+mod6> as soon as there is a non-us wot-enabled btc provider... i might think about a bare metal thing for this. << i may not wait for this... i dunno, will have to see.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you read the thing you're bound to recognize the by-now standard and documented playbook.
mircea_popescu: not clear what heir could have done, other than you know, gaddafi all over himself.
mircea_popescu: iirc the last time you used the symbol it got challenged into meaninglessness.
mircea_popescu: heck, saudi fortunes seem i ntreouble. the us moved to vacuuming up far east private fortunes recently.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-06 00:54 mircea_popescu: and you've got A LOT of things built in, not just "antispam". you got admin hardening ; gpg comments ; auto-spam tagging, ddos protection, anti-trackback flood and etc.
mircea_popescu: the irony being that they entirely miss the mistakes. but whatever,
mircea_popescu: once they stop being poor maybe they can afford hiring actual experts.
mircea_popescu: and prove for the nth time that... a) nobody reads the "mainstream" media so no possibility of competing in the direct and b) they have no money anyway, nor any interest in any form of reality, so they can't buy anything from you anyway.