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dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-16 16:03:54 verisimilitude: I be not the only one here drinking six or eight cups of coffee each day, right?
punkman: if I go past 2-4 shots of espresso, I switch to decaf
punkman: also been enjoying cup of goat milk with 3-4 scoops of cacao, nice energy boost for the morning
punkman: giving yourself caffeine addiction is rather miserable, it's good to switch it up
punkman: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-16#1066322 << I wonder if all this "vintage fashion" is happening because the girls are too poor to afford new clothes (that are not H&M quality)
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-16 22:33:47 signpost: had a huge chuckle the first time I saw girls walking down the street dressed like my mother in the 90s.
thimbronion: punkman: confirmed in some cases
thimbronion: For blatta debuggers, my live blatta log can be found here: http://share.alethepedia.com/blatta/blatta.log
PeterL: my daughter (age 13) recently scored a big pile of clothes from an estate sale. 80's/90's fashion, it's all pretty sturdy stuff
PeterL: she also got a wedding dress, which she dyed a dark purple to use as a haloween costume
shinohai: oh neat scoopbot is back
PeterL: yeah, I never figured out what was wrong with it, I tried running it again and it worked
PeterL: seems like for some reason it was having trouble connecting to the IRC network, but the problem seems to have gone away
BingoBoingo routinely consumes 2-3 pots of coffee daily
BingoBoingo: signpost: 80/90's nostalia definitely seems to be a trend
BingoBoingo vaguely recalls wave of 60/70's nostalgia forced via television during 90's
shinohai: Montevideo Vice, where BingoBoingo and local sluts bust up pirate tit rings off the coast.
signpost: BingoBoingo: sure, but from the 60s/70s nostalgia you get the psychedelic revival which had significant impact on the views/behavior of me and my peers.
signpost: it's easy to trivialize the young, then suddenly they own the world.
signpost: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-16#1066340 << thought on this, and it's pretty self aware. the advantage of coming later is knowing how the story ended.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-16 23:24:18 crtdaydreams: I would not have learned of lisp, and it's related technologies.
signpost: to wish to have been there is to wish to fail with a lost cause. better to know why they failed and fix it.
signpost: or to quote asciilifeform (and btw this is something I continue to dwell upon.) algo was always broken
dulapbot: Logged on 2020-12-17 19:02:50 asciilifeform: billymg: if it at any point even makes sense to discuss 'the fed of bitcoin' -- in any other light than you might discuss 'a 2 that is also a 3' -- the algo was broken. (and was always broken, then.)
signpost: can be as true of cultures as code, and really there's no distinction. code's just culture on a computer.
signpost: $ticker btc usd
busybot: Current BTC price in USD: $59662.73
shinohai: $adj
busybot: The next difficulty adjustment for BTC will occur in appx. 1,492 blocks ~ 9 days, 20 hours, and 38 minutes
asciilifeform: repasting from pestlog (which aint 100% working presently) : thimbronion : what is almost certainly happening is that msgs with lower bouncecounts are getting zapped by deduper, and identical copies bearing higher bouncecounts are the ones being rebroadcast some % of the time, leaving to ~random desaparecidos.
thimbronion: asciilifeform: makes senes
asciilifeform: thimbronion: imho the only proper fix for this is to actually have the embargo logic
thimbronion: *sense
thimbronion: asciilifeform: yep
asciilifeform: that way if there's an immediate (i.e. direct from peer) copy of a given msg on the way to your station, that one is treated as canonical (and rebroadcasts will have bounce==1)
asciilifeform: (and if there aint -- the station has a chance to receive the 1 with the lowest bounce count prior to rebroadcasting)
asciilifeform suspects that this could account for 100% of the desaparecidos observed so far
thimbronion: I need a better local test net
BingoBoingo: signpost: there seems be be a connection with the 90's nostalgia and the era's stoner culture. Maybe it's just an echo, but it's palpable
BingoBoingo: And generally the young adults today seem less retarded than self and peers at their age, but maybe I'm just picky about the ones I entertain?
BingoBoingo would not be surprised if Zoomers become the next Boomers
signpost: yeah, this is what I'm grunting at too. they seem less retarded.
signpost found 'em pleasant company at the last acl fest.
signpost: BingoBoingo: whereas the 90s stoner culture was peripheral, and most millenials were (and are) extremely conservative (either the lefist or right-wing versions), these ones seem like they're running the show.
signpost: and they're not as afraid as the millenials.
signpost considers his generation to be comprised entirely of cowards.
cgra: asciilifeform: my 'within few days' is stretching like thick spit -- cuz this task also is starting to show 'spittoonesque' symptoms. realized getblocks/getheaders works as a DoS weapon, and then upon further investigation, getheaders is showing similar, mysterious node-shitting-itself characteristics.
signpost: hue, spittoon-c++ does not treat time estimates kindly
cgra: i mean, similar self-shitting as the 'getdata wedge' does
cgra: signpost: yea... if you have time estimate, you're already wrong -- no reliable estimates exist! :)
cgra: repeatedly forced to ask yourself how deep do you really want to dig
asciilifeform: cgra: this summarizes asciilifeform's entire history of work on the subj
cgra: asciilifeform: right! :)
cgra: anyway, just an ack that still intending to finish a summary
asciilifeform: cgra: a ok. no reason to hurry
BingoBoingo: signpost: I suspect it's the greater distance from having Boomers in their homes that is giving Zoomers that advantage over Millenials. Boomers just failed that bad.
BingoBoingo: At least the Zoomers have a pragmatism the Boomer to Millenial span seems to lack
BingoBoingo: In other news, the F-35 flying brick is getting the "nuclear capable" designation soon... Southern hemisphere keeps looking better
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lol, did they finally install 'crm-114' box in'em or wat makes the difference there
punkman: I've been exposed to a bunch of zoomers via the local (board)game shop, they don't seem less retarded. perhaps a bit more "genre-savvy" in some areas.
punkman: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-17#1066399 << this makes some sense. these kids don't remember a time before constant financial crisis, incessant surveillance, etc
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-17 12:11:19 signpost: and they're not as afraid as the millenials.
punkman: millenials are getting to middle age, having accomplished nothing, lots of existential dread going around
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform, Apparently so
BingoBoingo: CRM-114 and paperwork
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-16#1066283 << good find; prolly oughta change spec to simply require that all 3 happen prior to session being considered to start
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-16 15:07:15 jonsykkel: re: "Must be the first/second/third command", ftr irssi seems to send in order PASS,NICK,USER
asciilifeform mistakenly assumed that the orig. given order is standardized
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-16#1066292 << seems eminently vulnerable to 'exam-taking' (e.g. suppose all the derps submit to it then only to start an npm-prime where same crapola immediately moves to)
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-16 15:58:19 verisimilitude: Anyway, here's something stupid and perhaps amusing: I will pay you cash to delete your npm module
asciilifeform: ... this is the basic problem with any out-of-wot bounty scheme.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-16#1066296 << seems that this'd give heroic tolerance and ~0 useful effect
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-16 16:03:54 verisimilitude: I be not the only one here drinking six or eight cups of coffee each day, right?
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-16#1066298 << iirc this aint even the 1st purported 'compatible client from scratch'. they aint necessarily uninteresting, but they aint, for fundamental reasons, plug-in replacements for trb, even if on the surface 100% correct somehow
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-16 17:39:56 bonechewer: I expect asciilifeform will be too disgusted by the segshit'ism to do more than flame this, but I thought a from-scratch reimplementation of bitcoind in C might be newsworthy, even if only as an organ donor for useful coad
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-10 09:43:25 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-10#1064697 << in #t asciilifeform & mp had kilometres of remarkably unproductive discussion about this. the heart of the matter aint complicated tho -- you don't necessarily need 'bug for bug compat.', but you do need sufficiently close emulation so that your noads cannot be induced to fork.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-16#1066336 << wait till you get chance to use a ~quality~ crt ! ( chances are you haven't seen one , they were coupla. thou. 1990s usd ! )
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-16 23:18:06 crtdaydreams: signpost: part of that 90s nostalgia is that I grew up with a CRT despite being of the post-millennium generation in a 1st world country.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-16#1066337 << the deep seekrit is that 'those days' aint over if you know where to look.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-16 23:20:56 crtdaydreams: Having learned the history of hackerdom and personal-computing in it's infancy, I must admit that there is a silent wish that I were born into the days of the C64 and low-level low-complexity technology.
asciilifeform: ( and could return en masse, if a sane iron were to be fabbed ! )
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-16#1066348 << errybody 'wastes' childhood, in this sense, imho
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-16 23:47:55 crtdaydreams: I pretty wasted away my childhood on video games and eventually yewtoob vidya.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-17#1066356 << lizards won't fire smallpox, not only ultra-simple to defend, but lotsa folx already immunized ( e.g. asciilifeform & his + previous generations of orcs )
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-17 01:47:17 punkman: nice https://twitter.com/AlexJonesWs/status/1460780913420382211
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-17 08:49:24 PeterL: seems like for some reason it was having trouble connecting to the IRC network, but the problem seems to have gone away
asciilifeform: !q uptime
dulapbot: asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 154d 16h 8m
asciilifeform: ^ wasn't a fullbore outage
asciilifeform: $ticker btc usd
busybot: Current BTC price in USD: $60219.01
asciilifeform: !w poll
watchglass: Polling 17 nodes...
watchglass: 176.9.59.199:8333 : Could not connect! (Operator: jurov)
watchglass: 185.85.38.54:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 84.16.46.130:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 185.163.46.29:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 213.109.238.156:8333 : Could not connect!
watchglass: 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.081s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=710179
watchglass: 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.081s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=710179
watchglass: 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.111s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=710179
watchglass: 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.104s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=710179 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.141s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=710179
watchglass: 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.087s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=710179 (Operator: asciilifeform)
watchglass: 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.170s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=710179
watchglass: 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.022s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=710179 (Operator: whaack)
watchglass: 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.284s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=710179
watchglass: 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.257s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=710179
watchglass: 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.937s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=710179
watchglass: 192.151.158.26:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-17#1066417 << what did typical plebe 'accomplish', historically? (other than questionable point of breeding)
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-17 12:49:59 punkman: millenials are getting to middle age, having accomplished nothing, lots of existential dread going around
asciilifeform: seems like current (i.e. post- Great Theft) situation is a return to the ancient norm, as intended by the lizards, where 'you work a day, and what do you get? anuther day older and deeper in debt'(tm)(r)
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-13 14:38:31 asciilifeform: mats: it doesn't seem like we disagree re 'what' is happening. but possibly disagree in pov. per asciilifeform , what it all is -- is a massive theft.
asciilifeform: near as asciilifeform can tell, the 'dread' is mainly an affliction of folx who were hooked on the drug of 'feeling significant' (typically via bureaucracy) and 'their lying eyes' contradict
asciilifeform: (rather like how in e.g. 1990s ru , impoverished former 'significants' drank to death by the thou.s)
asciilifeform: incl. yeltsin himself.
asciilifeform: illusory 'significance' has a cost.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-17#1066379 << cultures, like organisms, seem to have finite lifespan.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-17 10:49:11 signpost: can be as true of cultures as code, and really there's no distinction. code's just culture on a computer.
asciilifeform: they are born, they senesce, they die.
signpost quite happy as an ephemeral bag of shit and saltwater
signpost: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-17#1066410 << proximity to boomers for any length of time is 100% a health hazard
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-17 12:21:21 BingoBoingo: signpost: I suspect it's the greater distance from having Boomers in their homes that is giving Zoomers that advantage over Millenials. Boomers just failed that bad.
signpost: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-17#1066436 << many of the precocious fail later because narcissism deranges
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-17 15:09:13 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-16#1066348 << errybody 'wastes' childhood, in this sense, imho
signpost: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-17#1066466 << I think the point is that where are the millenial elites?
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-17 15:16:19 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-17#1066417 << what did typical plebe 'accomplish', historically? (other than questionable point of breeding)
signpost: elite boomers at least tagged the moon with a couple ICBMs with doods strapped on
signpost: eh no, that was the war generation, nvm!
signpost: anyhow the millenials still have time to do something, and perhaps bitcoin turns out to be it, but time's ticking and so far their contributions to bitcoin appear to be "shit bolted to side"
bonechewer: "born, senesce, die" documented imho well by John Glubb
bonechewer: Not a single milennial at my $SALTMINE can coad in C++; task falls to grizzled me
signpost: lol, of c++ I'm forced to say "cowards aren't always wrong"
bonechewer detests C++ but will do quite a few things for money
signpost: sure, just chuckling
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-17#1066482 << likely not exists yet -- gerontocracy a la sovok
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-17 15:33:26 signpost: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-17#1066466 << I think the point is that where are the millenial elites?
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-17 15:32:09 signpost: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-17#1066436 << many of the precocious fail later because narcissism deranges
PeterL: thimbronion: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=Cevk << crashes if you try to send a dm to a handle that you do not have as a peer
thimbronion: PeterL: ty!
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-17#1066486 << there's imho a quite serious systemic defect in bitcoin (and no, i'm not aware of any possible 'fix') -- the reward structure favours early-adopting morons
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-17 15:35:23 signpost: anyhow the millenials still have time to do something, and perhaps bitcoin turns out to be it, but time's ticking and so far their contributions to bitcoin appear to be "shit bolted to side"
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-17 10:48:39 signpost: or to quote asciilifeform (and btw this is something I continue to dwell upon.) algo was always broken
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-07-11 15:08:31 asciilifeform: because, as things now, there is absolutely ~nothing~ productive you can do that will get rewarded 1/1000th as much as 'having loaded up on hodl in 2011'
asciilifeform: ... favours so heavily that if somebody 'was there in 2011' and lost 99% of his hodl, is still fatter than anyone who 'is hero' ~today~, regardless of the latter's actual valuable contribution (to anyffin at all, incl. maintenance of troo bitcoin & assoc. systems)
asciilifeform: would go as far as to say that the ~only means to seriously (i.e. by 2010s measures) profit today is via fraud. hence the abundance of 'shit-bolted-to-the-side artists'.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-14 11:56:58 asciilifeform: and given as the entire purpose of a shitcoin is to 'replay history' with perp at the center.
asciilifeform: shitoshi's war crime of yielding bitcoin to winblows morons in '09 will be paid for, for potentially very long time.
asciilifeform: aand shitcoins will prolly always remain an attractive nuisance to the dimwitted who reason (correctly!) 'the derps who were there around shitoshi in '09 were no better than me, wai can't i have 1000 btc, maybe can if we can replay history'
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-14 11:55:48 asciilifeform: i.e. as soon as perp starts to notice that he's no longer the dominant miner, will 'upgrade' the pow, and the chumps will eat it up (given as they ate a shitcoin to begin with, being chumps)
asciilifeform: naggum described microshit as a once-in-a-civilization mistake, not the least reason being the damage done by the morons trying to 'repeat its success'. similar here.
asciilifeform: when stupidity is massively rewarded, you get (surprise?) massively moar of it.
asciilifeform: afaik the ~only ways to get hold of the proverbial 1000btc today, is 1) fraud&theft 2) direct access to money printer with which to buy it
asciilifeform: plebes are laser-focused on #1 ; lizards on #2 .
asciilifeform: lizards aint actually interested in ~spending~ their hodls, they need'em strictly for paperization, maintaining volatility so as to prevent their pyramid of traditional fuffles from toppling
asciilifeform: whereas #1 chumpatronicists interested mainly in 'cash out' (i.e. sell their hodl to a #2 for the proverbial '30 pieces of silver')
asciilifeform: anyways none of this is news or afaik esp. audacious conjecture.
jonsykkel: are the selfchains meant to be persistent if restart prog? how to update iwthout causing >900 fork?
jonsykkel: maby this is what getdata is for
asciilifeform: jonsykkel: is what getdata's for
jonsykkel: i see
asciilifeform: (with getdata, you also get the ability to talk 'into a bag' and ejaculate the contents of said bag opportunistically. may come in handy for stations w/ intermittent connectivity...)
asciilifeform: likewise you get usenet-style threading (once somebody writes a non-irc-style frontend)
jonsykkel: good stuff
asciilifeform: well, prospective good stuff. we dun have it yet.
asciilifeform: at the rate thimbronion is going , tho, i suspect we'll have it soon.
jonsykkel: so i guess upon rebooting after update you would just recursivly getdata backwards until selfchain matches with stored value?
jonsykkel: makes sens now
asciilifeform: also gives you a (distributed) log, of a kind
asciilifeform: i.e. potentially could have a pest client w/ 'scrollback' a la certain heathen chats
asciilifeform: for so long as someone on your pestnet has the old stuff, you'll be able to see it.
jonsykkel: very nice
asciilifeform: (and, recursively, your peers will too)
asciilifeform: orthogonally to all of this, asciilifeform was asked (in meatspace) 'can i make an equivalent of old-style moderated group w/ pest?' -- answr is 'you can, if you can find folx who want to inhabit one, simply pick a moderator and peer with him in star topology'
asciilifeform: i.e. the pest topology is general enuff to allow emulation of heathen one, if someone needed such a thing.
asciilifeform: the beauty is that if the participants get tired of their 'star', they can go and link up among themselves and cut him out.
jonsykkel: heh never thoguht of that
asciilifeform: lotsa things you could do.
asciilifeform: is what generality gets you -- folx can do things not necessarily described prior.
jonsykkel: beginning to see the light
asciilifeform would say 'will be interesting when over9000 folx see the light' but chances are we won't find out about it
jonsykkel: unless you backdoor it quickly
asciilifeform: 'obfuscated pestron contest'!111
jonsykkel: epic
asciilifeform: fwiw asciilifeform suspects that there were folx 'using pest' long before i described it on www, and before thimbronion wrote his pre-pest thing, or even before any of us were wanking re 'gossipd', etc.
asciilifeform: the algo is simply too obvious not to have been implemented somewhere.
asciilifeform: simply neither asciilifeform nor other folx tuned in, know'em. and they've never felt the desire to say hello.
jonsykkel: ye wouldnt be too surprised if something vaguely similar exists at least
asciilifeform: jonsykkel: i'm satisfied that it dun exist publicly.
jonsykkel: prolly not as clean spek tho
asciilifeform: jonsykkel: there's a buncha rubbish moxyware, not discussing it
asciilifeform: 100% usg honeypot
asciilifeform: (complete w/ centrally pushed 'updates' to clients etc)
asciilifeform: ( this equiv.class automatically includes anyffin running on pnojes & similar )
jonsykkel: dont even need centrally pushed depending on users
asciilifeform: jonsykkel: yea but it always is, is how lusers admin their softs
asciilifeform: 'have you updated'
jonsykkel: gotta stay secure
asciilifeform: the very notion that a piece of softs could be permanently finished, afaik srsly discussed publicly only here.
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-15 21:29:41 asciilifeform: a properly-adaized replacement-trb (i.e. with ZERO traces of derpcoad and demonstrably bug-free) would be what one could call 'permanent software'
jonsykkel: i suspect youre right about that
jonsykkel: i think djikstra said something about version numbers being nonsense
asciilifeform: it's a terrifying egowound to the typical derpware author (esp. if addicted to 'feeling significant' -- 'how will i stay at the center of things if a proggy can be finished??!!' )
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-17 15:18:33 asciilifeform: near as asciilifeform can tell, the 'dread' is mainly an affliction of folx who were hooked on the drug of 'feeling significant' (typically via bureaucracy) and 'their lying eyes' contradict
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-14 11:55:48 asciilifeform: i.e. as soon as perp starts to notice that he's no longer the dominant miner, will 'upgrade' the pow, and the chumps will eat it up (given as they ate a shitcoin to begin with, being chumps)
vex: thoughts on pest being bolted to trb asciilifeform?
asciilifeform: vex: it's an elementary use case once we have it in sumthing other than a snail interp. lang
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-11 10:21:00 thimbronion: asciilifeform: what is your rationale for running trb on top of Pest? Hiding trb nodes w/o tor?
asciilifeform: imho is not the easiest nor most interesting use case discussed thus far, but defo belongs on the list.
vex: interesting perhaps for a black hashing cartel
asciilifeform: arguably only 'comes into its own' once you can make a completely pestronic path to miners, aha
vex: block
asciilifeform: imho it doesn't make sense to put sweat in it until there's a trb that doesn't verify in o(n^2) and doesn't wedge, lol
asciilifeform: atm diddled connectivity aint the main natural enemy of trb noades.
asciilifeform spent a rather long time under the misconception that it was; presently satisfied that (at the moment) it aint
vex: crtdaydreams: are you parsing the logs? get a napkin my son, I've got some calulations for ya
vex wants this
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-17 10:11:01 shinohai: Montevideo Vice, where BingoBoingo and local sluts bust up pirate tit rings off the coast.
vex: With Santiago Segura as The HarbourMaster
vex: did you manange to swap your bullshit out for something useful crtdaydreams?
dulapbot: Logged on 2021-11-14 00:42:17 cdd: I'd like to ask (I'm not sure if this is the right channel to ask on) if I could purchase bitcoin in exchange for monero?
vex: shit like this make my olfactory sesors go wild
vex: i did like that meta video tho
vex: In caffine news /me takes a heavy ristretto or two erry dawn
vex: 3 moar at breakfast etc
vex: verisimilitude, anyone tells ytou you got a problem. show them the door with an open hand
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