(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: billymg, bonechewer : not only, but breaks peer list in various ways; often enuff deliberately ignores trb nodes (which dun advertise support for various prb rubbish); throws headersfirstisms, bloomfilterisms, & other garbage which often enuff banned by flagship-build trb noades immed.

(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: ( to an extent you can get what historically folx were hoping to get from headerfirstism from 'cement'. but even that requires a bit of thought to get right. )

(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: cgra: trb simply doesn't send massive getdatas : it's 'headers-first sync' prb nodes which do this.

(asciilifeform) asciilifeform: billymg: see here

(therealbitcoin) asciilifeform: i neglected to put this in the comment, but the reason why prb-type clients ask for blox with 'getdata', is that they do the 'headers-first sync' heresy.

(trilema) asciilifeform: and, observe, this was without any such prbisms as 'headers-first'ism etc.

(trilema) asciilifeform: much of what the 'power rangers' did to their bitcoin, was an elaborate dance around this problem, with a dozen pseudosolutions that guzzled memory, and -- more importantly -- destroyed the integrity of their sync ( the orphanage bullshit, the headers-first bullshit , etc )

(trilema) asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: also of interest was the discussion of the slow ~debasement~ of seppuku -- first the introduction of 'kaishaku' or beheader-secondant himself; then later the earlier and earlier finishing stroke, with scarcely any cuts; then the disappearance even of the knife, and replacement with substitutes (fan, pen, etc) for 'token' performance

(trilema) asciilifeform: lulcoinz: it's the bitcoin you used in 2011. ~21,000 lines, and shrinking. ( and no 'headers-first' pseudo-verification idiocy, no leveldb, no p2sh, no githubism, no dns, no glibc, various other 'noes'. large collection of exquisite noes.)

(trilema) asciilifeform: i.e. no 'headers-first' or other gavinisms, no ssl or other hearnias, etc

(trilema) asciilifeform: (phoundation's header-first-sync thing is not a node...!)

(trilema) asciilifeform: punkman: so did it abandon proper verification? does it 'header-first' ?

(trilema) asciilifeform: 'Because release 0.10.0 and later makes use of headers-first synchronization and parallel block download (see further), the block files and databases are not backwards-compatible with pre-0.10 versions of Bitcoin Core or other software. Blocks will be stored on disk out of order (in the order they are received, really), which makes it incompatible with some tools or other programs... The block index database will now hold head

(trilema) asciilifeform: 'Today Bitcoin Core is easily >100 times faster to synchronize and relay than when I first got involved on the same hardware, but these improvements have been swallowed by the growth.' << ahahahahaha the headers-first idiocy