mircea_popescu: ProcessBlock: BASTARD BLOCK, prev=0000000000000000094d, DISCARDED
mircea_popescu: ProcessBlock: BASTARD BLOCK, prev=00000000000000000c64, DISCARDED
mircea_popescu: ProcessBlock: BASTARD BLOCK, prev=0000000000000000094d, DISCARDED
mircea_popescu: at least part of the shitgnome objective ("make it impossible for random derp to run full node") will succeed within less than a year, if not actually successful enough already.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33350 @ 0.0007319 = 24.4089 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 13:36:02; asciilifeform: shinohai: see, i'd post a full recipe and signed binaries today, but we don't quite yet have a pogo-capable - that is, non-ramguzzling - bitcoind
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39850 @ 0.00073184 = 29.1638 BTC [-]
punkman: asciilifeform: why the sharp dropoff in that picture?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 87700 @ 0.00073624 = 64.5682 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52600 @ 0.0007396 = 38.903 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i can actually unwedge it. i am satisfied the problem here is a subtle memory issue (not directly related to the bdb locks thing). specifically, to verify block 367851 bitcoind needs a certain amount of CONTIGUOUS memory. but it doesn't know this.
mircea_popescu: the kernel thinks it has memory, the program thinks it was allocated memory, the verification fails and the process cycles indefinitely.
mircea_popescu: if someone new to low level stuff is eager to do some useful spec work, feel free to examine this issue.
mircea_popescu: im pretty certain 367851 is the best block to do it on.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> btw there are misleading figures circulating re: 'size of the mempool today is 5MB' etc. << word. not a scalar.
mircea_popescu: it's a complex set of required blocks of allocable memory, and the hope that kernel allocates them correctly.
mircea_popescu: this is perhaps chief reason we must have bitcoinos. general purpose memory allocation (ie, not bitcoin optimized) is garbage.
mircea_popescu: that's why i say someone who has the tools to reason deductively should look at it.
mircea_popescu: the instrumentation you need is userspace with specifiable available memory profile.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think while the txn are verified serially maybe the memory for entire block is allocated somewhere ; haven't actually had someone dig into the code for this angle./
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> utterly illiterate << kids today are used to adding things together. "how many pears do you get adding six ducks to eight nails ?" "14!!!"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform bubble butts beckon. i shall return tomorrow!
mod6: asciilifeform: maybe jurov can add another lxr for v0.5.4 when release is official? i actually never use the doxygen one either.
mod6: or whenever he gets time i suppose.
mod6: me too, if i even use it at all. most of the time i just use an editor.
mod6: anyway, yeah, i agree. we'll have to get lxr setup for v0.5.4 for sure, and maybe at that time we just drop doxygen or just point at it for the call graphs.
mod6: didnt some guy get paid for a graph, or was that a differnet thing?
mod6: also, fwiw my TEST2 node has block 375296
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57575 @ 0.00073346 = 42.229 BTC [-] {2}
cazalla: an anecdote but when i snoop the facebooks of the girls i wanted to bang in high school yet never did, their last posts are usually 2012-2013
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15325 @ 0.00073184 = 11.2154 BTC [-]
punkman: the fake-name instagram/facebook/etc and the real-name instagram
cazalla: i still don't understand how or why tiny boxed photos with lense flare and filters is more popular than a proper photo.. could normal photos be just as social?
cazalla: perhaps the quality of the photo is meant to match the shitty subject manner
punkman: I suppose 640pixels was all anyone had on their phones when instagram started
punkman: low-res probably helps with the cellulite too
cazalla: somewhat of a paradox.. why buy new iphones each year with over 9000 mega pixels only to down sample..
cazalla: i've heard "i needed the better camera" quite a few times
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 87963 @ 0.00073876 = 64.9835 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88050 @ 0.00075445 = 66.4293 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15750 @ 0.00075736 = 11.9284 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7337 @ 0.00075779 = 5.5599 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 109250 @ 0.00074077 = 80.9291 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76800 @ 0.00073184 = 56.2053 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47050 @ 0.00075478 = 35.5124 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00075779 = 5.2666 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35500 @ 0.00074883 = 26.5835 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34458 @ 0.00075779 = 26.1119 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 19-09-2015 11:17:04; punkman: "During our ongoing discussions with Symantec we determined that the issuance occurred during a Symantec-internal testing process." hah
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76405 @ 0.00075779 = 57.8989 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8295 @ 0.00075802 = 6.2878 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42800 @ 0.00075407 = 32.2742 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69200 @ 0.0007365 = 50.9658 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26200 @ 0.0007365 = 19.2963 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21655 @ 0.00073558 = 15.929 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: By the time I was buying TI-92 without the plus 29 including shipping
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94600 @ 0.00074703 = 70.669 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00074307 = 13.5239 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 20-09-2015 00:29:16; pete_dushenski: for a node network n00b, i found the aforejizzed quote quite interesting
BingoBoingo: Actually the part where there is no way for the hub node to be configured such that "hey this -connect node is cool to peer only with me" is a problem
BingoBoingo: Although assume hostile is a useful default attitude I am not sure act hostile is a useful default
assbot: Logged on 20-09-2015 01:50:44; mircea_popescu: i think suicide bombing not only can be but actually is perfectly justified.
assbot: Logged on 20-09-2015 01:53:14; mircea_popescu: wait, old holland's banned in the us ?!
assbot: Logged on 20-09-2015 03:40:34; *: mircea_popescu foresees great cinematic drama, "the brainwallet". where guy gets shot in head, has to recoup his brainwallet.
assbot: Logged on 20-09-2015 04:09:34; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the most dire flaw, per my current understanding, is that the thing is loathe to discard a peer
BingoBoingo: On OpenBSD (non-pogoable) the latest BDB locks fix added ~800MB of memory allocation for bitcoind
assbot: Logged on 20-09-2015 04:34:28; asciilifeform: the scratch space used for the verification is allocated on the stack
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57065 @ 0.00073334 = 41.848 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3742 @ 0.0007307 = 2.7343 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16750 @ 0.0007307 = 12.2392 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61622 @ 0.00073068 = 45.026 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 275178 @ 0.00073094 = 201.1386 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65200 @ 0.00073784 = 48.1072 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66352 @ 0.00075135 = 49.8536 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78900 @ 0.00073335 = 57.8613 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 20-09-2015 04:56:57; asciilifeform: (yes, someone did half of it, a btc's worth, but the result is not yet something i can send off to the print house and get a wall poster)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00073335 = 6.0868 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73600 @ 0.00073335 = 53.9746 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 126263 @ 0.00073838 = 93.2301 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: Logged on 20-09-2015 04:58:26; asciilifeform: noez, he wanted genuine dead souls, not synthetic dead souls !!111111
mircea_popescu: "A Tough Day as Leaders" wait wut, who's symantec the leaders of.
mircea_popescu: dude everyone in english is a leader. apparently leadees not required. they lead lead.
mircea_popescu: btw check out BingoBoingo and his rand paul bet. well done bb!
assbot: Logged on 20-09-2015 09:36:21; BingoBoingo: On OpenBSD (non-pogoable) the latest BDB locks fix added ~800MB of memory allocation for bitcoind
mircea_popescu: in other news, "Mass amnesia in effect in/Bitcoin to downplay AbbyGate. No one remembers her...Who?"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00073335 = 12.1003 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: buttcoin is upset that apparently nobody in bitcoin reads r/bitcoin or cares about reddit celebritits.
mircea_popescu: (spoiler : boy meets girl at insane asylum. neither is a visitor. she "is an artist". he "is writing a book", about DSM, of course, because what better qualifies one as an expert in the field than being insane.)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55700 @ 0.00072997 = 40.6593 BTC [-] {5}
mircea_popescu: if anyone actually holds some eth and is willing to lend it out... i'm all ears.
mircea_popescu: trinque btw, you actively working on that otc website equiv ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20964 @ 0.0007298 = 15.2995 BTC [-]
shinohai: That would be awesome if it was tied to btcalpha wot
shinohai: heh ... "Hive wallet failing" Who wants another html5/js wallet?
mircea_popescu: "Techtip is a popular technology tips blog which aims to make your tech life easy by writing about software reviews, productivity and free web apps."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26819 @ 0.00073501 = 19.7122 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37381 @ 0.00073501 = 27.4754 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21519 @ 0.00074374 = 16.0045 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "At Frontier, the first release of Ethereum, you'll just need a) a GPU and b) an Ethereum client, Geth. CPU mining will be possible but too inefficient to hold any value.
mircea_popescu: Codename Frontier, the initial live release of Ethereum consist of Geth, the Command Line Interface written in Go, and nothing else. At the moment, Geth only includes a CPU miner, and the team is testing a GPU miner branch, but this won't be part of Frontier."
mircea_popescu: "The algorithm is memory hard, you'll need at least 1+GB of RAM on each GPU"
shinohai: Also ... "Do not proceed with this guide using a machine on which you do not feel comfortable losing data, or even hardware. You have been warned - this is EXPERIMENTAL."
shinohai: Kinda reads to me "We need schmucks to test our shit, but don't want to waste money on resources. So you guys do it for us, but don't come crying to us if it borks your pc"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35950 @ 0.00073687 = 26.4905 BTC [-]
shinohai: ;;later tell danielpbarron Is your node down?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37000 @ 0.00073241 = 27.0992 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 20-09-2015 13:53:58; mircea_popescu: eh da fuck you gonna do to a vid card that breaks it.
nubbins`: i recall decades ago, larratt from bme claimed he'd written a program that'd fry 1st-gen sound blasters
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00073687 = 9.8741 BTC [+]
assbot: MUN prof tells very different story, hard-of-hearing student says - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News ... (
http://bit.ly/1Pg64fW )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 90528 @ 0.00073259 = 66.3199 BTC [-] {4}
danielpbarron: shinohai, unfortunately yes, but I hope to get it back online sometime today
shinohai: thx, I just rebooted and will connect to the one mp posted yesterday.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 228576 @ 0.00072972 = 166.7965 BTC [-] {10}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50800 @ 0.00072817 = 36.991 BTC [-]
danielpbarron: ;;later tell nubbins` my thing is a 'DS' so unless you think that game will also work on it, I'll have to pass on your offer
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39950 @ 0.00073097 = 29.2023 BTC [+]
trinque: mircea_popescu: yep, I've been hacking on the buy/sell board this morning over coffee
trinque: should make some decent headway today
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1685 @ 0.00073686 = 1.2416 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25700 @ 0.00073749 = 18.9535 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00072867 = 15.3021 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96950 @ 0.00072827 = 70.6058 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66950 @ 0.00074017 = 49.5544 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: Logged on 20-09-2015 13:53:58; mircea_popescu: eh da fuck you gonna do to a vid card that breaks it.
analmaster: im trying to do some work for the mines
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38350 @ 0.00073531 = 28.1991 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21926 @ 0.00074017 = 16.229 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41850 @ 0.00074116 = 31.0175 BTC [+]
shinohai: Looks kinda like, i dunno, mysql.
punkman: Are you ready for FinTech? Are you ready for exposing yourself to cutting edge technology without spending time to understand how it works? Are you ready for flashing fancy new business cards at congresses, luncheons and breakfast briefings, with pre- and postfixes like bit, crypto, chain, coin, satoshi or block?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43460 @ 0.00074226 = 32.2586 BTC [+]
assbot: Texas electricity goes negative: Wind power was so plentiful one night that producers paid the state to take it. ... (
http://bit.ly/1j0my1r )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22371 @ 0.00074226 = 16.6051 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35500 @ 0.0007433 = 26.3872 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26147 @ 0.00074387 = 19.45 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54008 @ 0.00074167 = 40.0561 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00074116 = 16.1573 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58723 @ 0.00074116 = 43.5231 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28997 @ 0.00074388 = 21.5703 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00074142 = 12.3076 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00074334 = 6.1697 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71750 @ 0.00074333 = 53.3339 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57779 @ 0.00074307 = 42.9338 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 126000 @ 0.00074333 = 93.6596 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44223 @ 0.00074133 = 32.7838 BTC [-] {3}
trinque: one more restart of teh deedbot- and I'm through fiddling with that part.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31050 @ 0.0007439 = 23.0981 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66950 @ 0.00074416 = 49.8215 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32600 @ 0.00074116 = 24.1618 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82642 @ 0.00074519 = 61.584 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8801 @ 0.00074617 = 6.567 BTC [+]
cazalla: mircea_popescu, which golden goose?
cazalla: assuming eulora related, seem to recall a trilema post related to some income generating item
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27100 @ 0.00074608 = 20.2188 BTC [-]
deedbot-: imported: 881BD4068628D739CF7E5F35D258F57BC24B4DAD
trinque: maybe it's mad that there's both a key and a message in there
adlai: oh, it's two messages
adlai: there's no pgp key block, it's quoted :P
adlai: and calls a spade a rose
trinque: k then I don't support the format of that yet
trinque: can maybe fiddle with it in a minute and get it to go through
trinque: oh, that's what I thought, that it was missing the outermost message header
adlai would've had the foggiest notion of how to interact with the damn thing if its source were published
trinque: adlai: publishing src runs contrary to forcing people to join this WoT to use it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35722 @ 0.00074608 = 26.6515 BTC [-]
trinque: aside that there's nothing that special going on here.
assbot: Logged on 06-08-2015 16:01:42; trinque: but anyway, if you'd like a copy, I could give you one
trinque: eats pubkeys or clearsigned messages, farts bundles and transactions to the address derived from the sha256 of bundle as pubkey
adlai: (isn't this how you accomplish things in the Brave New Economy?)
trinque: decent method of signaling butthurt anyway
adlai: no, that would be !v
mats: i suggest a car blog
trinque: er that's sha256 of bundle as the private key
trinque: adlai: I'm sure you could write this thing in a day
trinque: tenyks was used as the basis, though I've grown to dislike it and will eventually replace
adlai: !v assbot:adlai.rate.deedbot-.2:15fd2fd84ba1e5781dca82a9681f662a00e604f874e27def5cb0d6298d50bdd6
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for deedbot- from 1 to 2 with note: works as described, not as desired
adlai: !v assbot:adlai.rate.trinque.-1:23937d53d0bdb484ce05a81b6eaea7e9917101262b19b8724c0f46d15aa854b8
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell adlai open source in tmsr~ means a person can ask another person for a copy of the source, and might actually get it
trinque: OP thought over it in the meanwhile and decided to keep it to himself
trinque: !v assbot:trinque.unrate.adlai:de74de9bcd8587e57dff154e4b5b5278c5071cb1a77885a107173d1025b16f59
assbot: Successfully unrated adlai
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35900 @ 0.00074617 = 26.7875 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 20-09-2015 23:09:19; adlai: pgp is just silly
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12560 @ 0.0007443 = 9.3484 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61440 @ 0.0007443 = 45.7298 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17871 @ 0.00074498 = 13.3135 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32097 @ 0.00074634 = 23.9553 BTC [+] {3}
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 231.95, Best ask: 231.97, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 231.97, 24 hour volume: 3523.07376493, 24 hour low: 231.4, 24 hour high: 233.38, 24 hour vwap: None
ben_vulpes: log is showing lines that my irc client is not
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16850 @ 0.00074891 = 12.6191 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: eh, forcing people do things isn't the best strategy anyway.
adlai: !v assbot:adlai.unrate.deedbot-:76571928fcc755b2f8a24c1c31b84255cad1497770f9f056a37084e366b73afa
assbot: Successfully unrated deedbot-
adlai: hey it urned us a buck dinnit?
mircea_popescu: trinque other than the silliness of trying to force people to do things, the more general problem with not publishing code is that it creates a world of perverse incentives for one,
mircea_popescu: sooner than later you'll find yourself chasing your tail because of it.
trinque: I'd probably be a lot more willing to shoot the guy a tarball without the antics
adlai: ... well at least it respects revocations!
mircea_popescu: well that;s kinda people publish it rather than passing it along on a p2p basis. saves them the effort of evaluating everyone's antics.
adlai: trinque: what can i say, drama is a lifestyle
adlai wonders what's wrong with 34TTQ2X.txt, curl|gpg eats it just fine
adlai: you mean the quoted public key block getting interpreted as a valid one?
mircea_popescu: adlai what is your notion of "never" and "another message" anyway.
adlai: those notions are uncontrovertial, neither is "forseen"
adlai: ie, if another message is signed, the key was cracked
adlai: (or dignork asked for a challenge)
adlai: lolkay, s/sign/deed/
danielpbarron: step 1) sign contract step 2) recieve payment of some sort step 3) revoke key and claim "cracked" when counterparty tries to make an appeal
adlai: idiot counterparty should've deeded it!
trinque: adlai: as for the one with a sig wrapping a sig, I'll have to update the code first.
adlai: trinque: this is rather weird now
adlai has another idea...
trinque: nah that one looks right; maybe I busted something earlier.
trinque: adlai: wtf, you revoked that key
adlai: free testing is worth what you pay for it!
trinque: truly a professional troll
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.000744 = 17.2608 BTC [-] {5}
adlai: who knew losing backups could be this fun
mircea_popescu: hey cazalla : i need a noob crafter to make me a tool in eulora, hopefully get some recipe copies.
adlai scratches head at deedbot-
adlai: this bug is actually far stranger than i can even imagine
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42800 @ 0.00074325 = 31.8111 BTC [-]
trinque: adlai: not really that weird; gpg ignores data outside a header/footer pair
trinque: including a dangling header where the footer is chopped off
trinque: and my regex is currently quite happy to do so for wrapped messages
adlai wonders whether there should be any way to "cancel" a deed
adlai: (before the hourly commitment)
adlai blames the long stressful day at the troll mines
cazalla: mircea_popescu, don't have a client to do so (nuked windows drive with the win ver)
cazalla: and couldn't get it running on ubuntu last i tried
mircea_popescu: cool cause if i don't manage to get this old screens recipe replicated we're sol without screens.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38900 @ 0.00074894 = 29.1338 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: Teen prosecuted as adult for having naked images – of himself – on phone | US news | The Guardian ... (
http://bit.ly/1LqMC0L )
BingoBoingo: cazalla: That was already covered on qntra a while back
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25450 @ 0.00074916 = 19.0661 BTC [+] {3}
cazalla: the fuck is the guardian recycling 3 week old stories for then? (you know, i also read about the ISIS dinar again this morning)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47850 @ 0.00074994 = 35.8846 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26366 @ 0.00075011 = 19.7774 BTC [+]
mod6: nice, thanks asciilifeform!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18250 @ 0.00075029 = 13.6928 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23100 @ 0.00075068 = 17.3407 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48600 @ 0.00075127 = 36.5117 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18550 @ 0.00074668 = 13.8509 BTC [-]
assbot: You have not rated adlai.
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 2 for adlai with note: horseman of common lisp robopocalypse
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: your naming conventions are lovely
Birdman: Someone to invest the money to bank roll my play for expected profits
Birdman: They are not in the wot and dont use any authentication, though tournaments usually make collusion not profitable
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: familiar with 'caribou mathematics contest'?
ben_vulpes: Birdman: i'm taking the girl on a cross-state line run, but please tell me later how tournaments make collusion unprofitable
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: came in on the local homeschooling wotwire
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> people take investors to play poker now ?!! << this is older than litecoin.
mircea_popescu: nevada casinos gross in the billions. it's a distraction.
mircea_popescu: why would someone pay some other fella to fuck his wife in his stead ?