(trilema) ben_vulpes: plus BingoBoingo has done good work in lining up local exchange partners
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: made arrangements; wire's been sent already and cash is in discussion
(trilema) ben_vulpes: next month
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i had some suspicious activity in the alley around my trash last week, where's my blockchain analysis support
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wasn't that last week's "hack"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: notice no knives for phil
(trilema) ben_vulpes: looks more like a "the price isn't the real price because it's too high to be the real price and here's some proofy proof" to me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: https://archive.is/pWbrV << potter's hustle in the news again
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and on the next page "Apply for ICO services worth 20 BTC for free."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: "or apply for basic 40 btc package for free!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: they'll make a landing page for another 4 btc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 40 btc starter package! www.icobox.io also all "success stories" successes are denominated in usd
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > "Community: access to insights of a 1000-strong community of marketing professionals, who focus on the blockchain industry" << sheesh
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'll survey the 'crypto'/cpa space and report back
(trilema) ben_vulpes: seems like clickbank wants to own the entire payment flow, and looks at first blush to only eat credit cards
(trilema) ben_vulpes: second step in clickbank signup is "who do you bank with and what's your ssn"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: ty
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: can i get the copyright r ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: actually BingoBoingo try http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Hn5N9/?raw=true instead
(trilema) ben_vulpes: write it up, danielpbarron !
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh tmsr shadowbanned even at bm
(trilema) ben_vulpes: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/04/arts/ren-stimpy-creator-misconduct.html << relatit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!up loper_os_cr50_
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!up loper_os_cr50
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other lols, sbcl.org is down
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not just true for real estate!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (nor do i know how i'd have cleaned the thing, had i tried to use it)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i could not fathom.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: place i rented had the weirdest damn nonstick pan: it had a nonstick coating but then an elevated metal grate atop the coating
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i felt the same way about the keys in buenos aires
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: is there a selection anchor missing from the key link?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: suuure boss
(trilema) ben_vulpes: for when cherri met rae
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: dangling em in the footnotes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aah.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: black chocolate and milk coffee?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: will be cool!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yesyes, ty
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh oh the "your time" thread.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i must have missed it, may i have a pointer?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-04#1820639 build as s.nsa, sell to pizarro?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: seems to do that as well
(trilema) ben_vulpes: have you tried restarting your house
(trilema) ben_vulpes: installer*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i see manifest draf, art car parade, and then the cuntoo instapper
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wonder if your dns is hosed?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what do you see on his homepage?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: works here, esthlos
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: amazing self depth-plumbing butthurt
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: smoosh footnotes down to the bottom of the page pls
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: enjoying the RE hunt posts
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: hue hue hue
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: dunno, what does he do?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: talk -> talked ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: social benefit!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: someone call the impact investors: for every XX dollars you bid up the starbucks stock, we'll take a day off to self-flagellate!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i wonder how many days of atonement they'd have to buy before the slippage showed up
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: mcdonalds still wins on kcal/shitbuck
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "of course, nothing's going to change until you start shooting cops"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: complete with "gtfo, this won't change anything" from the normal blm suspects
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah righteous lolz
(trilema) ben_vulpes: who knew hdds had souls
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the splintering and setting of the electorate at itself continues apace.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "PORTLAND...IS YOUR WHITE FRAGILITY SHOWING?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and in other "we could never shoot a cop!"s https://pdxbillboardproject.com/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jurov aaaalso http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/2TGf0/?raw=true
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !~ticker --market all
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!up jhvh1
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !~ticker --market all
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nifty
(trilema) ben_vulpes: esthlos: what'd you do for theming? i just took a look at "toolbox" at BingoBoingo's request, have you ever touched that?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: afaik, the option to bamboozle is in withholding outputs or supplying synthetics
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: how would this bamboozling work, operator still supplies address to spend to
(trilema) ben_vulpes: once it turns into a real item, aka bitcoin, i care. until then, nop
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there are things for which i care about maintaining the tree of inputs that resulted in my balance, and there's ephemeral shit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so what if it's rusty
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm not using it as a node, i'm using it as a scalpel to slice flesh off altcoiners
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the electrum forks make it pretty simple in my experience.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't care to hang on to any forkcoins, no
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh i think that can go
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pipp8: because nothing after 0.5.3 was strictly necessary.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pipp8: http://cascadianhacker.com/20_a-summary-of-changes-to-bitcoin-since-0321
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!up pipp8
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey BingoBoingo would you apply the same razor you applied to the landing page copy to the rest of the copy on the pizarro site?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "hey, she's a reeeeal african american now!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-25#363112 << https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/05/25/rachel-dolezal-who-posed-black-woman-accused-welfare-fraud/643773002/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pricing details i mean
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gonna work it more or should i pick it up from here? fine starting point i think (will wait for contradiction), i can fill in the details.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: looks pretty good to me, BingoBoingo
(trilema) ben_vulpes reads
(trilema) ben_vulpes: btw thanks ave1
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://archive.is/S1lfr << methinks the lady doth protest too much
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nevertheless, "once upon a time we made cars in flint, and the water was unsafe to drink in mexico. these days, they make the cars in mexico and flint's water is poison."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you won't notice lead in the water until your kids are born all fucked up either.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm not prodding you about "issues" you mighta "noticed" but to think about who's involved in your decryption and signing flow.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: they would never back your whole hdd, precious linux vms and gnupg keychains and all to icloud, no never.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is "can get root privs" all you need to feel comfortable using gpg on the thing?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: the incessant whining to "upgrade!", the lockout of gdb shy of signing executables for execution, none of this screams "not your computer! get your hands out of the machine!" to you?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: from coinbase: "Get $10 of free Bitcoin for every user you refer!" why not eth, ltc...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: reports are that even exwm works with it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fwiw xquartz works fine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: purged it manually, after throwing the "no seriously i am a grownup" switch?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it doesn't tile, what fucking great.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or or, have you tried deleting "iPhoto"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is not a very secure perspective, mon frere.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: the pushing of multigigabyte files to "your" computer doesn't make you pucker at running gpg on the thing?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the debian rng bug is a good example of hosed RNGs, that's a fine place to start
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm obliquely suggesting that you have nfi how your keys were put together because the layers of abstraction are too thick.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ever wonder about how the deterministic number generator on that vm was configulated?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gnupg does, so for the third time why are you using a vm, what do you imagine it gets you
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so why bother with the vm
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what does using a vm on a compromised computer getcha?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i do not think this does what you think it does
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: a vm on the macbook?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: have you tried installing gentoo on your macbook?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: it's a rubby trojan horse masquerading as a package manager that posts ~/.gnupg to www.google-analytics.com
(trilema) ben_vulpes: brew edit $formula might help, but i ditched the mac nigh for reasons of pervasive upgradism like this a year ago, haven't looked back, can't suggest that you spend much time doing battle with republican softs on the crapple.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: on a less glib line, homebrew changed the calling syntax on the tap. you should read the error message for the correction instruction.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: could be all the way down in the ruby
(trilema) ben_vulpes: possibly the homebrew part
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: yeah it's the mac part
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wouldn't put it past either the usg or cn engineering departments to fail at recreating the su rf-illuminated snooper but to screw up the power by a few orders of magnitude
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is reaching penis-theft proportions of lol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i intend to do this for the july bills.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tangentially, "Before December 2017, there was no market for bitcoin derivatives." https://www.frbsf.org/economic-research/publications/economic-letter/2018/may/how-futures-trading-changed-bitcoin-prices/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ooh yes please
(trilema) ben_vulpes: plans" should be, so look at pricing as well. if these rates are attractive to the market and we get out there and flog 'em i think there's some money to be made
(trilema) ben_vulpes: landing pages and ad copy is not a gadget i know how to work, so let me know what you think. this also has what i think the "
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lobbes, BingoBoingo (and mod6 and asciilifeform, mircea_popescu if he's inclined) here's a draft of the copy for the shared hosting landing page: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/PcA2p/?raw=true
(trilema) ben_vulpes: as in www?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: how is ram different from fs in the context of http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-18#358183
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's probably some amount of useful.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: curious about how tractable, workable, and useful setting user-level memory limits on the shared hosting is.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ulimit's per-process, yeah?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: check my understanding of a thing please: if apache runs its own php pool, then user-level cgroups won't affect how much ram apache eats while serving a user's php, right?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh freenode webchat doesn't use ssl omfg!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: on a scale of useless bullshit to practical for republican shared hosting, how useless are cgroups?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also lol good footer
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Mocky: why's that ada article not on the homepage of yer blog?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ya great softy
(trilema) ben_vulpes: later mod6
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!v E8314E9D628E6F35170D8D517C534BED72FB92C4D3DB073F929475394C4B6908
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dooooon't care, just stoppit. spend more time watching and listening and learning the cultural norms and if you're going to deliberately not follow them then i'm interested in your good reason per http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-23#361418
(trilema) ben_vulpes: which i can't even fathom dude because wtf you're willing to clutter up the logs with line after line of key noise and then otoh...screenshots
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: yeah i'll drop the neg but you gotta work on picking up how shit works around here. the list of annoying crap you do is unenumerable but the two things that drive me personally up a wall are eg http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-23#361197 and then also posting screenshots of text
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ahahaha oh man i just reread my douchebag rating
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i read the logs, saw your ping.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not hassle me while i chew through my whiteboard
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i am enjoying this pace!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: belay that, read this http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/uh7Xt/?raw=true
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well he wasn't pimping, they were chained
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm planning to die on stage soon, this is good practice.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the ho's are the pennies, the broker the redditard, mircea_popescu the pighead
(trilema) ben_vulpes: he wondered why the girlies walked to the station and didn't shoot the redditard
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cap de porc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not just wonder why the pennies are walking to the station?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-15#1738849 << i had entirely forgotten this, ty mircea_popescu
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: fertile ground tho, no telling where the conversation might go.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: this, i press. and for reason.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: did intel cast shade upon wu-firing localbitcoins accounts?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't have notes on this, he may contradict, but that is my memory.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: objected to walking two grand usd over the the dc; shit was busy at the time and i didn't press.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there's your 15 bucks of overhead for interacting with the fiat banking system.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no clawbacks on the wu
(trilema) ben_vulpes: albeit one to western union for reasons of tax bracket.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes they are possible, and to date have been firing in tandem
(trilema) ben_vulpes: now now, i dislike the extra wire fees and coordination overhead trinque .
(trilema) ben_vulpes: novel!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: and then dc pays bingo his food allotment in cash from the extra?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: iirc the stumbling block to a single transaction is that we want to avoid pushing BingoBoingo's local account over the minimum tax line. with i think the local equiv. of an llc BingoBoingo can receive money and it won't count as his income until it hits his account.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: needs a wire and a WU-gram; and speaking of, BingoBoingo anything to report on the .uy corp formation front?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: it's about 5kusd/mo, will go up somewhat in the near future
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "But the positive feedback since the Golden State Killer case convinced her to make the plunge."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes but the "unsure if i should do this until people cheered for me" bit was lulzy
(trilema) ben_vulpes: unrelated, "She had initially hesitated to work on criminal cases because she was unsure of legal and ethical issues, especially if people uploading their DNA to GEDmatch were unaware police were trawling through the database." https://archive.is/6zrLD#selection-1651.70-1651.284
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ohoh thescourge
(trilema) ben_vulpes: doesn't ring much of a bell
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: do you recall which one this was?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thanks, mircea_popescu
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hassel -> hassle
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aight great, i'm going to get to work on marketing matls/landing page today
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not urgent by any means, possibly even a good switch-cover.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah, that's in the double checking routine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: it would be nice on my nerves and doublecheckment routines if pay-invoice OTPs had invoice memo and amount
(trilema) ben_vulpes: stand by to slow down
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nice
(trilema) ben_vulpes: neato
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lobbes: shared shell alone, i haven't examined the implications of this scheme for rockchips yet
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this incentivizes the hunt for long term customers
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and yes, of the affiliate's recruited set, not of all customers.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lobbes: for so long as a customer is paying pizarro is the intention
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lobbes, BingoBoingo: thoughts re ^?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6 asciilifeform: a sales incentive scheme proposal: we kick back 5% of revenue to affiliates who've recruited up to 10 paying customers, 10% up to 25 paying customers, 15% to 50 customers and then 20% for recruiting over 50 customers, which'd be a tidy .03 btc/mo, way better than any other "while you sleep" scheme out there.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i await a transaction to clear through deedbot, then i shall settle your invoices
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that is what i am trying to say
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: it doesn't make sense to put delicate items acquired with much suffering like BingoBoingo's cedula immediately into the statists hopper (localbitcoins demands "an ID" to post ads), when one can pick from the sale offers and operate on the side of the transaction where id is not asked for
(trilema) ben_vulpes: even some of the baisc ones.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah shoot, thank you. the finer points have slipped away.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fettiffany: are folks buying/selling bitcoins and dollars? how are folks defending against the inflation
(trilema) ben_vulpes: porque no te gustas maduro?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: funny how deeply the actual people notionally represented by the soi disant speakers for the people hate said speakers
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what do you think of it?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fettiffany: here's some more context http://thebitcoin.foundation/declaration.txt
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ty BingoBoingo
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!down douchebag_junior
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gpg is too haaaard!" replacement
(trilema) ben_vulpes: marlinspike / rosenfield 's "
(trilema) ben_vulpes: https://thehackernews.com/2018/05/signal-desktop-hacking.html << "because the developers used a function literally called 'dangerouslySetInnerHTML' that doesn't escape HTML"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: a guess at what storage a 10 dollar/mo plan might be reasonably marketed at, informed by scrolling through a few pages of shared hosting offers and looking at a few in detail
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-18#358110 << 100 accounts at 10gb, leaves 35 gb for l1/2 shell users on a 1.7 tb machine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: are there other things besides wordpress that fit the bill for this kind of thing?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i can see it opening up the altcoinist scam market for least-effort websites
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-18#358067 << this is something like "a wordpress and you're welcome"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i disqualified some others for ~zero activity in the past two years, but haven't ruled out hostsearch or warriorforum yet
(trilema) ben_vulpes: great, i mentioned hostingdiscussion.com , webhostingtalk.com, forums.hostsearch.com to you, also warriorforum.com from mircea_popescu's mentions once upon a time. i'll dig up some others as well.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: true of everything in this world
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: you are now going to go and start canvassing apartments pricing concretely, yes?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: expenses and would be willing to put down a half btc incentive if we hit that. i'm also considering that the apartment rental is going to be maybe 20% more expensive than the combined cowork and bunk, and propose moving some of the end-of-year incentive forward in time to pay for that.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah, it's fuckin tricky, though. i'm trying to estimate what could reasonably be packed into uy1 from a shared shell and ftp perspective, but i think 20 shell accounts and 100 lower-end ftp-only accounts is probably the max that box can carry without overbooking it, and if we can get to that point within a year i'll be pleased as punch, as it'll cover a significant fraction of the whole pizarro operation's
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: plus table, chairs, bed, cutlery, hot water heater?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so that's some 800/mo at the bare minimum; an upfront of around 4.8k at that rate
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: help me enumerate these costs?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: there are not insignificant upfront costs iirc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gotta figure a) whether the apartment thing is crazy for some reason i don't understand b) structure for next years incentive
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: haven't settled on next year's incentive payment yet
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: i
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: am i crazy in trying to push for an apartment for you?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sure.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sure, but i'm talking about quality of existence here. own place to shit, own food prep area, not having to constantly piss on preferred chairs. it buys security for effects, and calm of mind that i think BingoBoingo underestimates (unless he is a very different animal from what i imagine)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you've astonishing will to keep yourself together around the addicts but i worry about the cost of keeping clenched constantly
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: would own quarters move the needle significantly on morale?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'd rather pay increased living costs either as a flat fee to get into the apartment or monthly on the rental so that you can cook for yourself and get off the street food
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah in re the apartment, BingoBoingo you want to live in the dorms forever or why wasn't that in your ask
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you want flexibility on the thing he's most insistent on, i'm crunching numbers on an incentive program, so he's leaning on you to make up the difference in the second axis.