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(trilema) diana_coman: so way more selection
(trilema) diana_coman: for the other if it is for a simple explanation, I'd go for the fact that many more used to die before they even reached 15 or whatever
(trilema) diana_coman: don't really know enough to say whether genetic really is simply the same for one thing
(trilema) diana_coman: <mircea_popescu> i have no fucking idea how progress, improvement and liberation resulted in a palpable drop of 25-30 iq points across the entire population, but there it is. <- uhm, correlation ate causation much?
(trilema) diana_coman: ben_vulpes, yes, it timed out in the end, no idea why
(trilema) diana_coman: hopefully you can access *that* , lol
(trilema) diana_coman: yeah, works instantly, wonders of wonders: http://dpaste.com/28AXJ4V
(trilema) diana_coman: hm, trying to but waiting on wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I can load that
(trilema) diana_coman: ah, that sounds better
(trilema) diana_coman: hm, I'm not sure I fully get it, gotta read it again with a clearer head, but so far: do I read that right that you are proposing in the end to trust the machine ?
(trilema) diana_coman: $rate Zakorus123 1 new Euloran
(trilema) diana_coman: $rate Zakorus123 1 new Euloran
(trilema) diana_coman: $rate Zakorus123 1 new Euloran
(trilema) diana_coman: $gettrust Zakorus123
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu, actually that might be the confusion made there in fact: despite claiming precisely that they do NOT sell bagels, artists assume that they precisely sell bagels
(trilema) diana_coman: well, I assumed she would know what follow-up is basically, which is quite an assumption really; I wouldn't be surprised if she simply considered that next assignment will "find" her just as this one did
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu> yeah, and she got paid, and then... that's the last i heard of her. somehow this is sensible, starving arists gets commission fall from sky, does 0 follow-up. <- she does drawings, not following-ups ("eeek, business, work!")
(trilema) diana_coman: otherwise maybe "let it be" but it's still stronger
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu> it's what a disinterested mark would politely say to an inept would-be chump manager. i guess the english speakers don't say anything. <- not as directly, no. Possibly something like "it might work," lol
(trilema) diana_coman: I'm still internally filtering a list of people I think might be most interested
(trilema) diana_coman: jay borenstein, he's the initiator of Open Academy as far as I know (I don't know him personally)
(trilema) diana_coman: and after an initial hackaton thingee
(trilema) diana_coman: basically there is Open Academy that apparently works to some extent - by that I mean it gets some students to do something useful over a few months with mentors from respective OS projects
(trilema) diana_coman: hmmm, borenstein is with stanford I think?
(trilema) diana_coman: I don't mean we should now explain how it is more interesting, more a statement of concrete points
(trilema) diana_coman: and it kind of got onto me because of all this current academia apparent strive towards "using OS as a way to get students develop wider skills and be more ready for industry" stuff; see open academy etc
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, my not-yet-fully-formed idea was that it offers a. meaning hence interest from students b. active and responsive channel hence support c. wider experience (aka mystical "industry skillz" we need more of) d. (or overall) actually getting them into a wot that yeah, supports learning and not only tech either
(trilema) diana_coman: I think what is difficult to grok at all there is what exactly (even in broad terms) is the offering - what is this millenium of code challenge at core
(trilema) diana_coman: fwiw I think asciilifeform has a point there
(trilema) diana_coman: ah, you mean auctions and reporting in chan, I was thinking in game stuff
(trilema) diana_coman: bwahaha, is that any eulora player in particular?
(trilema) diana_coman: how do you make that link?
(trilema) diana_coman: I don't see the link fiat pretend-sovereign - bbet
(trilema) diana_coman: the way I read it, it says: a. the fiat pretend-sovereign has nothing to do with mpex going private b. bitbet did NOT die because of 17 btc
(trilema) diana_coman: jurov, do you mean this: The notion that some fiat pretend-sovereign or other has anything to do with this measure is significantly less sensible than the notion that 17 Bitcoin and change is what caused the closure of Bitbet, as ridiculous as that notion may be.?
(trilema) diana_coman: ha, love the dragon
(trilema) diana_coman: it *was* snappy on giving voice ; so: delay at $up, snappy at $v ; maybe just a hiccup, no idea
(trilema) diana_coman: fwiw deedbot worked for me, although it had 1 min delay to give the otp
(trilema) diana_coman: <trinque> I'm not totally clear on what happened with diana_coman, because I did not remove the old methods. <- I sent the !up apparently before the change and it worked; but then the !v did not work as meanwhile the change was made (or so I gathered)
(trilema) diana_coman: I think it was my fault, I timed it precisely in the middle of the change, lol
(trilema) diana_coman: well, they don't seem to be adults there really, hence not people :D
(trilema) diana_coman: so kind of more demand than supply
(trilema) diana_coman: fwiw my understanding of that is simply that there are a whole lot of women around who can't get enough
(trilema) diana_coman: anyway,at this level of haziness I don't think there's much that I can say further;
(trilema) diana_coman: or maybe I just don't get it
(trilema) diana_coman: but it's not really clear what that is in itself anyway and then it gets mingled with what is actually said
(trilema) diana_coman: I increasingly get the impression that you are trying to answer in that post to what you perceive to be people's actual ideas of the thing, but
(trilema) diana_coman: she's a beauty and he's a millionaire? lol
(trilema) diana_coman: or just something in the eyes of the beholder?
(trilema) diana_coman: well, going back to the "interact with reality on different levels" thing might make it perhaps clearer: would this "millionaire vision" be basically a superior level of interaction?
(trilema) diana_coman: millionaries like missionaries now, can't spell
(trilema) diana_coman: I read that as an implied millionaire=better otherwise why not right it as such: people who are millionaires, are millionaries
(trilema) diana_coman: uhm, didn't you write "people who are better are better"
(trilema) diana_coman: mk, a state of vision so then what does this have to do with "being better" at all?
(trilema) diana_coman: and my view of it as a stage basically
(trilema) diana_coman: I suppose the difference comes at heart from defining millionaire as a state of being and thus an inevitable characteristic of the essence of a person (that's my understanding of your position)
(trilema) diana_coman: so no, adults do not turn into anything other than corpse by the previous definition, but they do not remain immutable really, precisely as they were, precisely what they will always be
(trilema) diana_coman: adults are adults or is now millionaire some other thing in there in between child-adult-corpse-dead?
(trilema) diana_coman: not sure I follow
(trilema) diana_coman: and for that matter what is learning exactly if not change
(trilema) diana_coman: but things don't turn into anything, so how is this child turns into adult?
(trilema) diana_coman: so let me see this: child-adult-corpse-dead
(trilema) diana_coman: if they don't change*
(trilema) diana_coman: mk, so an adult is set then to whatever s/he is; is that your position above that people don't change? (I still don't see how is this really reconciled with "they turn to shit as they age!!" - if they change, they can't turn to anything )
(trilema) diana_coman: mhm, so biologically adults or what?
(trilema) diana_coman: it's not about collective-bargaining, it's about the fact that all of a sudden it seems we are talking about different entities, so we need to set the definitions somehow
(trilema) diana_coman: so that we know what we are talking about
(trilema) diana_coman: mk; define people then
(trilema) diana_coman: by that measure old people aren't people and idiots aren't people and non-millionaires aren't people and yeah, sure, there's nothing left to discuss either
(trilema) diana_coman: and if people don't change, then get yourself a newborn and tell me how is s/he the millionaire
(trilema) diana_coman: except some actually improve as they age
(trilema) diana_coman: so I don't quite see the point to expressing circles (other than they are satisfying)
(trilema) diana_coman: and b. this thing is quite circular as you say it or as I read what you say
(trilema) diana_coman: hm: a. people change who they are all the time really (think dementia for a clear example, not that all are through illness or that radical)
(trilema) diana_coman: it's not a matter of doing X or Y, but rather HOW one does X or Y
(trilema) diana_coman: nope, nor can it be; my observation for what it's worth is that people interact with reality at different levels basically, as they can
(trilema) diana_coman: hmm, let me try to make it clearer maybe
(trilema) diana_coman: heh, was I having so much fun that it's unclear whether I am serious or having fun? lolz
(trilema) diana_coman: and doing all the exercises in the guides, ofc, not "just reading"
(trilema) diana_coman: as in my pretty picture?
(trilema) diana_coman: don't millionaires really get there by reading guides?
(trilema) DianaComan: not at all, no, I'll troll some with it irl
(trilema) DianaComan: hello, I'm Definitionally Crazy! :D
(trilema) DianaComan: that's phf's line from the fragment
(trilema) DianaComan: anyway, it made me curious: what's the crazy that was plenty and seen but not really digested as it turned out?
(trilema) DianaComan: phf: i'm just saying there was plenty of opportunities to speak up against crazy in the past, and i saw plenty of crazy and i just thought everyone else took it in strides, as part of the game. apparently not! <- at a stretch crazy might be seen as an insult I suppose
(trilema) DianaComan: the devils, yeah :))
(trilema) DianaComan: bottoms abound or something
(trilema) DianaComan: that is all we have!
(trilema) DianaComan: very very crude
(trilema) DianaComan: I don't get what you are on really; I said: to see if I am positive or negative, not even comparing to you, just very crude: today my eulora account is worth 1btc, tomorrow it is worth 1.5btc or 0.5btc
(trilema) DianaComan: do you mean that bv is now meaningless?
(trilema) DianaComan: meaningless for what?
(trilema) DianaComan: I can compare that way
(trilema) DianaComan: no, but I use my bv as a baseline
(trilema) DianaComan: a pain, but still
(trilema) DianaComan: uhm? base value?
(trilema) DianaComan: you can calc all your networth, no?
(trilema) DianaComan: aaaand made my wonderful, shiny, new samovar, ha
(trilema) DianaComan: well, so far it's very crude: are you in the positive or in the negative? then again, for comparing god help us given all the sikriz
(trilema) DianaComan: what was frustrating about it?
(trilema) DianaComan: the bot simply automates the repetitive tasks
(trilema) DianaComan: asciilifeform, the playing part is a. figuring out what is what and b. crafting your strategy and seeing how that compares (as results ie money) to those of the other players
(trilema) DianaComan: well, there is a lot to be said about intelligent mining/exploring too for sure
(trilema) DianaComan: back when I was more hopeful that I actually have the time for at least half the ideas I had
(trilema) DianaComan: ah certainly, I even had that as first idea, ha
(trilema) DianaComan: and ftr there is Birdman who managed to blow some 10mn using the bot in one night or so
(trilema) DianaComan: no, not really because the bot by itself is basically a dumb robot
(trilema) DianaComan: there is some very satisfying quality of "it works for me while I SLEEP" component to it too
(trilema) DianaComan: ftr asciilifeform I routinely leave it on while I sleep
(trilema) diana_coman: ah, no, I meant more of the rate-me-rate-you variety really
(trilema) diana_coman: and moreover I have to say that a bit earlier in b-a I had this uneasy feeling that people were patting one another on the back, maybe it was just me
(trilema) diana_coman: it's either that or shoot the cows, no?
(trilema) diana_coman: sure, continuity is valuable, whenever it can be had
(trilema) diana_coman: fwiw continuity has never been, in my experience of anything, of the "as things were" variety
(trilema) diana_coman: kakobrekla is basically an unknown quantity to me, I must add
(trilema) diana_coman: aha, thanks for the clarification phf ; I did follow the whole thread but I can't say I actually caught this intent of yours as such
(trilema) diana_coman: what's the logs address for this channel?
(trilema) diana_coman: punkman, what do you mean exactly?
(trilema) diana_coman: uhm, thestringpuller I'll certainly have to study that, so I'll possibly get back to you on this then
(trilema) diana_coman: depends on what you mean by "ideas" (i.e. desires in that direction plenty) and by getting rid of planeshift (code is already quite far - in a good sense - from original planeshift and yes, I absolutely want to take it further away)
(trilema) diana_coman: re asciilifeform's meaning of pederasty in this context, I use his previous explanation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-02-2016#1416802
(trilema) diana_coman: what's wrong with a textfile per se thestringpuller ?
(trilema) diana_coman: williamdunne, for practice, join eulora and I'll offer quests and training in Ro only, no problem
(trilema) diana_coman: of all things
(trilema) diana_coman: bwahahaha AND I teach him ...percentages!
(trilema) diana_coman: need to look into it more
(trilema) diana_coman: fwiw the google thing looked all right to me re features, but I wasn't too sure re who made it, lol
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I asked mod6 if he knew of some good testing tools for cpp as I am not up to date with the landscape on that for cpp
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu> ben_vulpes you know for everyone from europe public school = best school. private school is where people with money send their retarded offspring to keep up the pretense. <- +1 to that; I might add the only exception to this rule I found in northern Italy where "private" meant in fact province (autonomous, German-speaking-and-doing province) funded
(trilema) diana_coman: aha, the 8 class thing would've been a great thing though
(trilema) diana_coman: after which they proceeded to bash us that "you will end up washing the floors in supermarkets"
(trilema) diana_coman: bwahahaha, our class was simply and unashamedly skimmed as "top 33" based on admission exam results
(trilema) diana_coman: hm, we were 11 girls: 22 boys precisely in high school (cs class ie maths+physics+programming)
(trilema) diana_coman: ^^^ ftr I can't remember ANY setting later than nursery in which I wasn't in a setup of at least 1:2 female:male
(trilema) diana_coman: I am honoured to be proposed to the list; I might add that I am quite likely to be of the silent type indeed at least for the time being
(trilema) diana_coman: well, there is no hard requirement as such to have the client written in cpp; but it's true that it's quite a huge effort to make an alternative, sane client (for one thing, I'd love a text-only client for instance)
(trilema) diana_coman: thanks ben_vulpes , I'll have a look; it's been ages since I last wrote anything in Scheme as such, but if there's a chance of moving the client away from cpp it's certainly worth having a look at
(trilema) diana_coman: jurov> nice, can someone compile crystalspace/eulora with mingw? <- I tried that in some days of madness; it didn't end well
(trilema) diana_coman: !v assbot:diana_coman.rate.jurov.3:0aa9a3699fc15a1ba3b7b30fd9be4c2a9a38ef70ae44da579c53a54b362d7a8f
(trilema) diana_coman: !rate jurov 3 official Euloran copper merchant; helpful with programming stuff; smooth and prompt btc transaction
(trilema) diana_coman: !rated jurov
(trilema) diana_coman: !v assbot:diana_coman.rate.wyrdmantis.2:4b365be092c15c1c984d08bd50161aa475bc226e45198b58647504f58e90e094
(trilema) diana_coman: !rate wyrdmantis 2 trustful builder/crafter in Eulora
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu> this girl's a born optimist is she <- I even gave optimistic conclusions ! at each point!! lolz
(trilema) diana_coman: oh my, I might need to actually start writing with any sort of regularity now
(trilema) diana_coman: well, from my point of view: no harm done at all
(trilema) diana_coman: lol @ "unattached"
(trilema) diana_coman: do you mean chetty perhaps?
(trilema) diana_coman: I think you might be confusing me?
(trilema) diana_coman: or rather: talking more in #eulora I suppose
(trilema) diana_coman: not really gone, just not talking much
(trilema) diana_coman: I am usually lurking around pete_dushenski
(trilema) diana_coman: it's fun anyway :D
(trilema) diana_coman: your problem above
(trilema) diana_coman: it's not a tree anymore!
(trilema) diana_coman: if it's not called a tree
(trilema) diana_coman: that the name is what things are
(trilema) diana_coman: so they will logically derive at the same time
(trilema) diana_coman: and every time they get...a name
(trilema) diana_coman: they ask what is that and what is the other
(trilema) diana_coman: well, no, not really, listen
(trilema) diana_coman: it is correct but not really sufficient
(trilema) diana_coman: the name of it
(trilema) diana_coman: an explanation or experience of what the damned thing IS
(trilema) diana_coman: well, come to think about it: children ask "what is that?" all the time and guess what do they get mainly as answer
(trilema) diana_coman: so yes, they love learning, of course
(trilema) diana_coman: children basically have nothing
(trilema) diana_coman: hence they don't like the unfamiliar, full stop
(trilema) diana_coman: because they already have automated patterns ("learnt") on which they can operate in familiar situations
(trilema) diana_coman: I'd have though it was much simpler than that mircea_popescu: most people don't like learning.
(trilema) diana_coman: fwiw I have been following Trilema from pretty much its beginning so I'm quite familiar with most of it (not that I wouldn't benefit from re-reading a lot of it) and I think there are many articles that would be worth translating
(trilema) diana_coman: alternatively it might simply be that I just hate translating - I'd much rather rewrite the thing in my own words as an exercise in understanding it
(trilema) diana_coman: he he davout that is true in general of course, but it's a matter of personal efficiency in a field or another
(trilema) diana_coman: I must admit that I kind of hate doing translation work as I find it horribly time consuming
(trilema) diana_coman: jurov, I think gabrielradio means that he is interested in doing the translation
(trilema) diana_coman: well you can grab people by their irc nick I suppose, not really by the tie at any moment
(trilema) diana_coman: from his point of view he cited only reputable stuff
(trilema) diana_coman: it turns out like that, yes, though he'd be surprised to find that out
(trilema) diana_coman: just that he has the wrong ideas as to what is reliable source for btc
(trilema) diana_coman: no, he is a researcher so he knows about sources etc
(trilema) diana_coman: so he went and did a search
(trilema) diana_coman: being important and all
(trilema) diana_coman: basically a uni professor who had no idea of the topic but just heard he had to say something on it
(trilema) diana_coman: had some fun reading them
(trilema) diana_coman: not to mention some "research"
(trilema) diana_coman: fwiw I saw first-hand the horrible things google/search-reliance can do for lazy people too - there were some very sad (or laughable if so inclined) articles on Bitcoin in ACM magazine
(trilema) diana_coman: well yes, but uhm, not really sure they'd come all the way from australia, nz and whatever else, every time
(trilema) diana_coman: whether it's that thread or the other one starts with, doesn't make a huge diff
(trilema) diana_coman: the rest is discovered through connections anyway
(trilema) diana_coman: so you need just a start on the web
(trilema) diana_coman: so it doesn't really matter if it hid 1 of 6 - if it is any good, it will be referenced anyway
(trilema) diana_coman: the thing is that's usually just the start of something anyway
(trilema) diana_coman: well, if the guy was an idiot and did not update his page, what can one do
(trilema) diana_coman: assuming the guy doesn't have his own page updated for some reason
(trilema) diana_coman: it's still kind of ok for specific stuff, more like bookmarking kind of thing - I know what I'm searching for and roughly where it is, I just need the quick path to it (as in search on dl.acm for articles of X on topic Y or in journal Z)
(trilema) diana_coman: so it's broken for sure
(trilema) diana_coman: and when I got there I had been right, the key words were exactly as given etc
(trilema) diana_coman: and it did not find them
(trilema) diana_coman: well, I think it might head that way, in the sense that it happened more than once that I searched for things with precise and specific keywords I knew were in there
(trilema) diana_coman: IF I have no choice but to start that way, I would afterwards check the source basically
(trilema) diana_coman: then again, I am NOT finding google useful to find information in general
(trilema) diana_coman: <mircea_popescu> these results specifically : http://www.pixelprospector.com/the-big-list-of-indie-game-marketing/ <- it's 2nd result returned for me on search: indie game marketing
(trilema) diana_coman: ha ha, double congrats then
(trilema) diana_coman: don't tell me you found it around the grass area though?
(trilema) diana_coman: ooo, congrats
(trilema) diana_coman: uhm, a bit weird
(trilema) diana_coman: I didn't get huge loot from either though (no mention in the hall of looters thing, lol)
(trilema) diana_coman: which ordinary (the sg is not yet mined) - do you meant the earlier wm and sm ones?
(trilema) diana_coman: nothing new this time, but still 1 sg ordinary and all sorts (wwb, ae ...)
(trilema) diana_coman: I must say it's quite a good feeling coming to see what it found while I was away :))
(trilema) diana_coman: glad to hear that mircea_popescu
(trilema) diana_coman: lol fertile like a ticking bomb or something
(trilema) diana_coman: well, presumed wtf is that, lol
(trilema) diana_coman: so what function is it that c-section does not preserve since it was missing in the first place?
(trilema) diana_coman: as it's not like 100% successful deliver the first time around
(trilema) diana_coman: thing is: what is the rate of emergency c-section for first delivery?
(trilema) diana_coman: then again, I'm sure I can find some data for any figure
(trilema) diana_coman: "Almost two-thirds of women who attempt a natural delivery after having a caesarean section for their first birth are successful, according to a study published in BJOG: An International Journal of Obstetrics and Gynaecology."
(trilema) diana_coman: who could use a forceps up its ass
(trilema) diana_coman: and in some cases nature is just a huge idiot
(trilema) diana_coman: thing is: presentation is not by far the end of it really
(trilema) diana_coman: and yeah, that for sure ^
(trilema) diana_coman: could be, tbh I held the same belief right up until I experienced "the wonder of birth"
(trilema) diana_coman: pre-birth in hospital basically
(trilema) diana_coman: the thing is: what used to be the % of death at birth? would you say as high as 40%?
(trilema) diana_coman: it didn't use to be the practice/allowed so kind of hard to tell (as far as I know in Romania for instance you'd still be directly set up for a c-section) so kind of biased numbers as to what the body can/cannot
(trilema) diana_coman: vbac = vaginal birth after c-section so yeah, "normally"
(trilema) diana_coman: what do you mean by generally?
(trilema) diana_coman: there is vbac too if that's what you mean (with 1/200 chance of uterus rupture and potential death, yes - then again, just check out in how many ways one can die giving -or should I say not-giving- birth the first time anyway)
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu> pete_dushenski it doesn't heal as in, restore function <- uhm, what do you mean?
(trilema) diana_coman: maybe I was lucky or something but honestly all I needed was rest+food (both in huge amounts admittedly) and otherwise....
(trilema) diana_coman: pete_dushenski exactly, except when...no
(trilema) diana_coman: I was out walking after a solid sleep (which was the one and only thing I needed like crazy)
(trilema) diana_coman: I know people who could barely move out of bed 1 week after that
(trilema) diana_coman: from what I heard it's not really like that
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