asciilifeform: 'Due to the well-known fact that all compilers have bugs, it is the conventional wisdom of the safety critical community to avoid assuming that the generated object code is automatically correct. For instance, the approach taken in the avionics standard DO-178B is one of Design, Review and Test [DO-178B]. As far as practical, the review and test activities are undertaken at the object code level. Indeed, if the reliability req
asciilifeform: if i had to guess, i'd imagine Cr cold-welds on impact with self, or something like that
asciilifeform: a 'terrorist' for the purpose of this line of thought is anyone who is on track to being imprisoned by usg under charge of 'terrorism.'
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://cryptome.org/2015/02/juraboev-complaint.pdf << mega-lol re: terrorist-creation
asciilifeform: elf and reality, able to keep up an attitude of the completest indifference, no matter what happens. A storm that would sink all the battleships in the world would hardly reach you as an echo. Even the whale's own movements would probably be imperceptible to you. He might be wallowing among the surface waves or shooting down into the blackness of the middle seas (a mile deep, according to Herman Melville), but you would never
asciilifeform: 'For the fact is that being inside a whale is a very comfortable, cosy, homelike thought. The historical Jonah, if he can be so called, was glad enough to escape, but in imagination, in day-dream, countless people have envied him. It is, of course, quite obvious why. The whale's belly is simply a womb big enough for an adult. There you are, in the dark, cushioned space that exactly fits you, with yards of blubber between yours
asciilifeform: nubbins`: mircea_popescu takes a 'sapper errs once' attitude to bitcoin compatibility, for reasons which should need no explanation
asciilifeform: but count me 100% in favour of mircea_popescu's proposal to get these idiots off computers and preferably - eventually - off the electric grid likewise.
asciilifeform: mike_c: the actual type of small arm used is unimportant
asciilifeform: incidentally, is somebody here interested in attempting a surgical replacement of 'openssl' in bitcoind 0.5.3 with 'micro-ecc' ?
asciilifeform: 'you need to go fuck yourself in the arsehole with a nice red hot iron dildo. I think that ought to improve your minuscule intellect.' -- from today's fan mail
asciilifeform: i simply don't happen to know what it is
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for some odd reason, the plumping shop 'guns' popular since '50s - didn't
asciilifeform: t with herbicides to get their money. Unlike soil erosion, compaction and pollution, breaches of this rule are easy to detect and enforce: if the inspectors see trees returning to the land, the subsidy can be cut off altogether.'
asciilifeform: 'There is just one set of rules that are effective and widely deployed: those that enforce the destruction of the natural world. Buried in the cross-compliance regulations is a measure called GAEC 12. This insists that, to receive their money, farmers must prevent "unwanted vegetation" from growing on their land. (The rest of us call it wildlife habitat.) Even if their land is producing nothing, they must cut, graze or spray i
asciilifeform: 'Because we have got to be willing as a nation to have a dialogue. This simplistic characterization of one-side-is-good and one-side-is-bad is a terrible place for us to be as a nation. We have got to come to grips with some really hard, fundamental questions. Im watching risk and threat do this, while trust has done that. No matter what your view on the issue is [... snipped crapolade]'
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: see log for one example
asciilifeform: it isn't unimportant in the least bit
asciilifeform: emacs is unbeatable on account of the customizations - not only of appearance (i've a different highlighting mode for every type of animal, and most are not the stock included ones) but mechanics - how do folks get along on other editors without 'hungry arrow keys', for example ?
ascii_field: their own young. Procreation slumped, infant abandonment and mortality soared. Lone females retreated to isolated nesting boxes on penthouse levels. Other males, a group Calhoun termed “the beautiful ones,” never sought sex and never fought—they just ate, slept, and groomed, wrapped in narcissistic introspection.'
ascii_field: don't forget streaming audio from microphones chump voluntarily keeps in the house, car, etc
ascii_field: decimation: how can any kind of signal magically compromise a stu? << no magic necessary, just ordinary heterodyne
asciilifeform: (and attempt plenty of things that can't)
asciilifeform: ^ example
asciilifeform: china imports own workers sop.
asciilifeform: idk if these folks run the phillipino content farms, but they are almost certainly the shepherds of the usg db with palmprints linked to blockchain tx from idiots
asciilifeform: the way usg contracting works, folks eager-to-please get preemptively down on their knees
asciilifeform: take with grain of salt, but folks fairly deep in the belly of the beast have suggested that 'noblis' is where the handprints from 'bitcoin atm' crap, pseudonyms from 'changetip' chumpatron, 'aml/kyc' idiocy, etc. all ends up.
asciilifeform: ot about Convergence. Years later, I had to abandon DoNotTrackMe (by a Moxie-run company, Abine) nee 'Blur' for Ghostery instead when the former got an update that kept hogging the CPU. An email to Abine just yielded a response to keep updating Blur, but the problem never went away.'
asciilifeform: 'I simply asked him -- in a private email -- if there was a signature for Convergence someplace because I didn't see any online. He accused me of being "inflammatory" and stated it was necessary to "take a leap of faith" (i.e. download and run it without verification). This was back in 2012, mind you. He appeared to be oddly anti-PGP back then, too. Frankly, after that I had no appetite for any more of his, erm, style and forg
asciilifeform: instead of derping like headless chicken for decades, publicly dump out guts - if can make a statement with it, so much the better
asciilifeform: ' If you have a powered up NEXTEL on your belt and you walk within 12 feet of a STU-III in secure mode you have just compromised the classified key.'
asciilifeform: ada, like common lisp, is interesting for the mostly-complete absence of any obviously braindamaged decisions forced upon the user
asciilifeform: this is simply what usg... is. at least since it was grown enough to even -have- a foreign policy.
asciilifeform: jurov: my impression is, eveythign around lisp is considerably fragmented << algol's mighty fragmented too
ascii_field: one (often overhyped but afaik factual) example of a total loss that is later 'un-lost' is archimedes having had fluxions
ascii_field: the actual field of comp sci was annihilated more thoroughly than anything the lysenkoists did to soviet biology
ascii_field: and yes, he was completely spot-on
ascii_field: al schwartz, for example,. wasn't in it
ascii_field: i did a good bit of supercomp heavy lifting for his eotvos thing, pro bono
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: folks aren't signing up for uni because of employment, but as a temporary reprieve from... what comes next
ascii_field has the complete set
ascii_field: who: folks who know they have a 1 in 10 shot at employment if they play, but 1 in 100 if not
ascii_field: you get 1 of 1000 at 'standard temperature and pressure' in some places
asciilifeform: the kind with the clamps
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: when done (rarely!) by sane folks, is generally 'part of a balanced diet' involving various vibration/temp/radiation/etc. sensors and rapid key zeroization
asciilifeform: also does dmca really have the provision for 'complainant must sue before date x'? (ianal!)
asciilifeform: on its menu would attempt to have content removed from a personal blog where
asciilifeform: the guy who wrote templeos is living on that racket << terry davis. and schizophrenia is still one of the more reliable ways a white man can get usg payola. though it's still an 'achievement', on part with getting a $1M research grant on your lonesome
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ...but a leech ? a leech is a revolutionary. << usg welfare folks aren't leeches, they're employees. (what're they paid for? ask tlp.)
asciilifeform: the 'living wage' thing is much closer to things that actually happen, because pumping staight from treasury to rentiers (who jack prices immediately on anything subsidized) is apparently a-ok
asciilifeform: meta-nsa can also take out of sample, no ?
asciilifeform: so mircea_popescu is not the only one who wasn't impressed
ascii_field: The "critical" employees would be working without the expectation of receiving a pay check. << not really
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my impression is that it isn't. just a very marginal synthesis with the byproducts left in, with various grotesque 'zombie' aesthetic of decaying user. makes up in sensationalism for what lacks in actual 'epidemiology.'
asciilifeform: i've always wondered why american dope aficionados don't follow the 1980s soviet example and all switch to making (or at least refining) what they use personally
asciilifeform read up on the cocaine vaccine thing. will note that even if it works as claimed (no blood-brain barrier penetration) - the net effect, if everybody were injected, is simply to multiply the standard dose of coke for man by 1.5x or so
asciilifeform: complete with hat
asciilifeform: the schizoid apathy, insensitivity and lack of empathy that could hardly be more extreme in a frank psychotic' << could be a description of virtually any
asciilifeform: 'In all of the discussions, Höss is quite matter-of-fact and apathetic, shows some belated interest in the enormity of his crime, but gives the impression that it never would have occurred to him if somebody hadnt asked him. There is too much apathy to leave any suggestion of remorse and even the prospect of hanging does not unduly stress him. One gets the general impression of a man who is intellectually normal, but with
asciilifeform: 'If Shkreli acquires Biltricide from Bayer, he plans to raise the price of the drug to $100,000 for a single-day course of treatment, according to people briefed on Turing's business plans. No other changes or improvements to the drug will be made by Turing. The extra revenue generated by Biltricide is expected to earn Turing a fast profit for its investors and help defray the cost of developing other, experimental drugs, sour
asciilifeform: what other applications I could improve for my own use by deleting << kernels
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the pathology arises in cases where victim - usually for reason of taking stimulator nonstop - feels no compulsion to sleep.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if you can afford a computer, you can afford to visit pub
asciilifeform: well yes but how does it improve chances vs. visiting a specially-designated heathen pit where these presently congregate
asciilifeform: indiancandy1: do you drive a car? when you go to a petrol pump, do you pay them to fill your tank? or to wind your gauge to 'full' by hand ?
asciilifeform: neh, his reptilian majesty is too pumped on meth and playing 'space invaders' with live gurlz to be tlp
asciilifeform: orwell more or less spot on - nothing happened in the 20th c. except as nominally decreed in some mega-empire or other
asciilifeform observes that it is not necessary to drink the punch to enjoy the company
asciilifeform: also wtf with calling a vps fakecomputer 'full node'
asciilifeform: 'fail' seems to come with peculiarly much physical security and ample hookers&blow supply in that case
asciilifeform: the engineering spec, not written anywhere, is 'drug must make patient less apt to complain but oughtn't be detectably pleasurable'
asciilifeform: a closed-source compiler is even more of a circus-grade laugh than closed os
asciilifeform: mats: for folks with crippled compilers ?
asciilifeform: chetty: complicated. at [censored] we got a shipment of zip ties in recently, and they break with one hand.
asciilifeform: feet optional (why did 'dancing the hempen jig' go out of fashion ?)
asciilifeform: complete 3-piece kit
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://www.aif.ru/dontknows/eternal/1084962 << turns out it was proclaimed, but not quite implemented
asciilifeform: iirc he compared it to certain genetically engineered bacteria that end up shedding the payload - 'why should i piss out $protein when i can be making more copies of self faster'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not only were the colonies (and then usa) the world's premier nuthouse for sectarian nutters, but the era of 'we have empty space now' promoted the 'tell'em tall tales and who's to say it didn't happen out there in the woods' mentality
asciilifeform: indiancandy1: yes. if you have a rare viral sample (e.g. Marburg) various folks will offer to buy.
asciilifeform has read the complete tlp
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: care to show counter-example ?
asciilifeform: somehow this is simply not done...
asciilifeform: find if part is compatible with circa 2010
asciilifeform: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131016/10282624900/how-government-blocked-expert-attending-its-own-cryptology-symposium.shtml << moar
asciilifeform: for real life implementations of 'spaghetti sort', see adi shamir's 'twinkle' and 'twirl' machines.
asciilifeform: where you can determine precisely what objects are live simply by... forming electric circuit (yes) from the root node
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: beg to differ. there are very good algos for garbage collection with hard real-time guarantees. they are complicated and i know of no system other than common lisp where they are implemented with any quality.
asciilifeform: i suspect that a sizable majority of apple users, if offered the choice between using winblows and being buggered with a thermos, complete with handle, every night,
asciilifeform: for the record, it is very important to understand why folks put up with this.
asciilifeform: 'My wife got through her Master's on a G3 iBook, and we paid to have its motherboard replaced twice for the same graphics issue, a little over a year apart. Having to pay for the first repair sucked, but sometimes those are the odds. Having to pay to repair it a second time due to identical symptoms a couple of months after the initial repair warranty was up was a kick in the teeth, and was a good indicator that there was some
asciilifeform: MPEx may one day -prohibit- redditards from buying coffee!
asciilifeform: anyway, whoever wants to prepare conductive glue can follow simple recipe, epoxy resin and aluminum powder. heavy on the latter. but don't say i didn't warn...
asciilifeform: (and if not today then tomorrow when room temp changes)
asciilifeform: litigation of Plaintiffs claims would present an unjustifiable risk of disclosure of classified information regarding (a) the identities of CIA officers and employees, (b) the job titles, duties, work assignments of Plaintiff and other covert employees, and the criteria and reasons for making the work assignments and employment decisions regarding them, (c) sources and methods used by covert employees, including operational t
asciilifeform: 0x800000 - if it wasn't obvious - is where uboot parks the kernel prior to jumping in
asciilifeform: incidentally it is possible to write the eeprom from uboot (you gotta pump in the new payloads via tftp in that case, but you save time by not needing to wait for an os - such as the terrifying bloat of systemdized-archlinux - to load)
asciilifeform: (the value is simply the sum of the lengths of mtd0..3, naturally, and these numbers are available in the uboot console if that's all you've got)
asciilifeform: the only conceivable use of the above sample is to demonstrate that netbsd will function correctly on 'pogo'.
asciilifeform: the 0xc00000 is a round number here, you want it to encompass your binary's size
asciilifeform: (why do i need a conventional install? because want to test my attempt at driver for the nand as a kernel mod)
asciilifeform: why is it possible to borrow $maxint in mr. chump's name without his pgp key
asciilifeform: any single usg employee's security, in all respects, continues at the MERCY of unidentified party. in no sense and in no manner does it flow from usg-anything << to be fair, the very reason why 'identity theft' is a real problem for anybody is usg
asciilifeform: the 'centrally imposed' i was speaking of was the 'apple says -shit-, devs answer -what colour-' one
asciilifeform: (short of chimeras in the vein of 'prolog' where anything you cook up is likely to be asking machine np-complete questions)
asciilifeform: requiring everyone to drop everything and 'get into compliance'
asciilifeform: fuck centrally imposed 'practices'
asciilifeform: i was genuinely floored when learned for the fist time that there are folks using a computer who have never so much as vaguely heard of it
asciilifeform: because ken thompson
asciilifeform: nubbins`: but to imply that everyone who is not in your position is necessarily a spendthrift who would be a winner but for the 'fatlogic' - is disingenuous
asciilifeform: but nubbins` is implying that rocket is unnecessary if iron will
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: simpler than that.
ascii_field: danielpbarron: but a random person off the street cannot enter that world simply by asking.
ascii_field: danielpbarron: yes! they have. by being part of social networks that are empire-in-empire
ascii_field: and picture what happens if someone who grew up with virtually no social skills were to attempt to find a way into world of 'snatch' (much less actually work there)
ascii_field: point was trying to make was that mass economics (e.g. weed) are not applicable to ultra-niche affair where there are maybe three people in a continent who can even begin to attempt $task
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: simple triangulation
ascii_field: but i for one can more easily comprehend how to move to ar and learn to be a shoemaker or ocelot-walker or whatever, than turning into one of the above
ascii_field: not saying that this is an impossible problem to solve
ascii_field: employer
ascii_field: at the risk of repeating myself, my rent, for example, is ~2k/mo, and not under any circumstances payable in cash
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and then when we start hiring, we hire slaves, like anyone hiring << simply wanted to point out that all of the #b-a projects (with possible exception of kakobrekla's work) are powered a hundred percent by the fiat economy's surplus - that is, free hours of various folks involved - and to some extent are at the mercy of their day job fortunes (see, e.g., the demise of moiety)
ascii_field: danielpbarron: the netbsd kernel and userland are sufficiently compact (vs linux) to make this a worthwhile exercise
ascii_field: danielpbarron: see if you are able to set up the cross-compile system (netbsd carries its own) on your box
asciilifeform dares to make the observation that more competent folks would turn out for these jobs if there was a possibility they might be able to live off such
asciilifeform again states for the record that the notion of running a proggy with unbounded memory consumption is a laugh
asciilifeform: or simply doesn't feel like making his humiliation public
asciilifeform: chetty: more complicated. ploy to stave off genuine voice channel crypto indefinitely through 'aha see they foiled usg plot, go back to using traditional phone'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://www.aholme.co.uk/Mk1/Architecture.htm << example of modern discrete logic machine. (there are many. common amateur project. but, afaik, nothing remotely large enough for, e.g., a bitcoin node.)
asciilifeform: but one could argue that at a certain point it is an irresistible temptation to the sc4mz0rz, rather than guarantee of genuine article
ascii_field: quite a few people have not made the conceptual leap to seeing the malice behind the incompetence
ascii_field: vlad's tree stump stakes ?
ascii_field: well yes, that's how my chinese scope gets a 100MHz sampler using 20MHz chinese ADCs
ascii_field: like sampler on cheap oscope ?
ascii_field: i've contemplated a revival of delay-line memories using modern high-frequency amps
ascii_field: none of the contemplated processes threaten to give you anything like '80s micro capacity
ascii_field: no, it works in the sense that the folks in control, are still amply supplied with whores and blow
ascii_field: to peddle the notion that the sim keys matter for any purpose whatsoever is either the act of a complete illiterate on the subject, or a usg stooge.
ascii_field: the press, rancid mixture of stooges and useful idiots, help to push the implication that 'now we can switch to keys that have not yet been stolen, and no more interception'
asciilifeform: which is possibly the only verdict more dire than 'np-complete'
asciilifeform: the thread-will-meet-the-arse-correctly-but-without-foreknowledge is called 'intelligence' and folks call any solution that calls for it 'ai-complete'
asciilifeform: so, as i said, very simple through-hole boards
asciilifeform: it is a fairly popular method for making small/simple pcb
asciilifeform: because i simply got tired and started to fall asleep.
asciilifeform: not compared to what i do for a living at any rate.
asciilifeform: and yes, unix is pretty good for a pdp-8, but unix is ultimately braindamaged when compared to what is possible.
asciilifeform: last thing i'll say about this for now is that it is a grave mistake to rebuild these starvation-camp machines as 'dawn of year zero.' these impossibly cramped programmable calculators are how we ended up with a braindamaged computing stack in the first place
asciilifeform: http://marc.info/?l=classiccmp&m=104957136420897&w=2 << re: z80 thread
asciilifeform: it isn't a question of 'takes longer', but of simply-never-happens
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ... making something like a z80, as long as it can be made at home, with equipment costing about what a z80 cost << absolutely. but it is important to understand that a z80 (or even intel 4004) is far, far closer to the 'pentium' than to anything that has ever been built entirely at home from discretes
asciilifeform: yep but it has twice the memory << unfortunately, not so simple. the -previous generation- of both devices cost the same and had 2x the ram. they are no longer available new anywhere i know of
asciilifeform: what kid hasn't considered ants, pheromone trail computer.
asciilifeform: that i am having them build simply to see what comes of it
asciilifeform: that it was not deemed economical to use jewelled bearing, as americans did, and the oil of a certain inedible bean (forget which) was employed as lubricant
asciilifeform: decimation: i can't help but wonder if somewhere, in a damp cellar, a kid is studying 'JOVIAL'
asciilifeform: for which the chumps, yes, pay
asciilifeform: none of the items that comprise most of the expense have changed since day one.
asciilifeform: can someone dredge up mircea_popescu's old article which mentioned the imperative to use nonstandard computing arrangements to frustrate 'one size fits all' usg idiocies ?
asciilifeform: 'Blocks will be stored on disk out of order (in the order they are received, really), which makes it incompatible with some tools or other programs. Reindexing using earlier versions will also not work anymore as a result of this. The block index database will now hold headers for which no block is stored on disk, which earlier versions wont support.'
asciilifeform: mike_c: worse than this. 1) i'm paying 2) not getting terribly much, have ~5mil keys that have not been dumped in on account of - elementarily - lack of cpu
asciilifeform: i would also like it to be a fucking -actual computer-
asciilifeform: and wtf, actual computers are extinct or what
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: i'm simply used to seeing that phrase as shorthand for 'it's ok for me to utterly fuck this up, right, because results couldn't possibly be important, aha?'
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: he had another book where computing happened by specially trained singers belting out gregorian-style chants
asciilifeform: but in practice, it has. i have a $$$$$ fpga board gathering dust because realized that it is impossible to implement ddr2 controller (and drive any available memory of reasonable density) without reversing the entire chip
asciilifeform: tempting example, but not a very good one - the basic idea of a dac hasn't changed
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hypothetical chip fab experiment does not require new computer.
asciilifeform: PeterL: emphatically not. not 'smaller cheaper' what-they-do-now.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the folks mentioning clean rooms show symptoms of not having understood
asciilifeform: clean football-sized compartment is difficult enough in jungle conditions
asciilifeform: ranging from mere omission of the fact, certain as daylight, of it being a usg production (with no attempt whatsoever inside to disguise their characteristic turdware tradecraft, note)
asciilifeform: you can get any lisp machine ever made, for example, with a crate of parts to last you a lifetime, for half of this
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: not even the theoretical basis for contemplating such a thing, presently exists.
asciilifeform: without even having to contemplate opening the chassis, in which, as is known, daemons live
asciilifeform: of the handful of vendors whose drives i have studied personally, not one used a signature scheme of any kind, for example
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: laughers can get all the laughing gas they could wish for, yes. i often see these bottles - emptied - lying on the kerb, fallen out of upturned student house dumpsters.
asciilifeform: google has extremely questionable motives and - at this point - competence
asciilifeform: punkman: 'gnat "error: field 'info' has incomplete type" '
asciilifeform: buffer overflows, pointer fandango, etc. - are impossible
asciilifeform: (in traditional implementations)
asciilifeform: or rather, the ada component of gcc is based on the ancient usg-commissioned thing
asciilifeform: (pet peeve of mine - 'lisp' (or worse, the '60s-ism LISP) is a hopelessly nonspecific term that encompasses languages that differ from one another far more even than 'algol' differs from 'c')
asciilifeform: who wants to laugh, but there are precisely two programming languages in existence which are 1) standardized and 2) you can -actually write complete systems- using -the language described in the standard-
asciilifeform: re: gnat: 4.6.4 builds but actually attempting to use yields 'gnatgcc: fatal error: -fuse-linker-plugin, but liblto_plugin.so not found'
asciilifeform: his gas bill will be complimentary of usg
asciilifeform: qntra article << wai wat, there are/were actual companies registered in virgin islands? not merely mail boxes for sp4mz0rz ?
asciilifeform: 'The attorney for Charles Plumpp said Weisenberger arrested and jailed her client, who is African American, on the nonexistence charge of "roaming livestock."'
asciilifeform: (the stump, that is)
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: try one of the un/under-employed folks around here
asciilifeform: (and before anyone asks, no, it is not a simple matter to build it from source like any other thing. needs an existing gcc configured to play ball in order to bootstrap itself)
asciilifeform: it was utterly incomprehensible to the uninitiated.
asciilifeform: 1) the idea of tearing out 'boost' while retaining the 'satoshi cleanup' concept of therealbitcoin project - is a total impossibility
asciilifeform: yet for some odd reason these activities are lumped in together
asciilifeform: my brother, for example, had one
asciilifeform: serious work in cpp is quite impossible without something functionally much like 'boost'.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: see the problem from the perspective in which it actually -is- a problem: not that a billion people own computer that is not a computer (nowhere is it written that we have to care about this) but in the elementary lack of a practical alternative.
asciilifeform: 'but Richard is seemingly frightened about the compiler competition from LLVM that is out under a permissive free software license.' << fud artist lies through his teeth. rms is not 'frightened of competition under permissive licenses', but is pointing out that organized attack by shitgnomes flying (as always) flags of convenience, is under way.
asciilifeform: ^ this fact became popularly known on account of the joe stack rampage
asciilifeform: in the 90 most computer guy were freelancer << not in usa...
asciilifeform: sorta how medical practice 'could be simple' if pharmacy stocked just cyanide (wagner optional)
asciilifeform: if they all moved to the actual detroit, the chump harvester would simply move with them
asciilifeform: the biggest tax, by far, is the real estate chumpamatic
asciilifeform: tale was re: usa rather than mpex, aha
asciilifeform: because it is generally understood that whatever one gets will be 'homeopathic' quantity after umpteen rounds of dilution
asciilifeform: re: tiny equities: as i understand, scarcely anyone even gets a fixed % of a company now
asciilifeform: decimation: they were 'working for nothing' long ago, by way of giving up most of their salary to the local real estate chumpatron as a mandatory matter
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: on the subject of 'gimp'-like proggys with terrifyingly layered menus - this is a well-known plague and there is no, afaik, ready pill for it.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: like gimp ?
asciilifeform: apple's compiler ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: replace with your compiler
asciilifeform: http://www.ivy-style.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/nsa3.jpg << small l0l: the ru example is atrociously off
asciilifeform: 'Try this one on for size. A man and woman are together, making out, removing clothes, getting totally naked, engaging in foreplay with both partners active, the woman mounts the man and begins rubbing her stuff on his stuff, without penetration but obviously thats the next step; and then she suddenly says Im uncomfortable doing this, and turns completely cold. Ive experienced this. I respected the No but
asciilifeform: and did i miss some political wank or other? did they have a public impalement of heretics on the washington monument, and i missed this ?
asciilifeform: 'and the the word "implant" was almost never used in security circles' << usually called 'bug' (in the 'room is bugged' sense) outside of usg
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: you can just put a blank flash drive in the top usb port with an empty directory 'revert' and the thing boots up factory default << this is not a feature of the machine, but of the modified 'uboot' installed by the script you used.
asciilifeform: decimation: hp's been branding chumpcartridges since '90s
asciilifeform: they cash in their 'brand' for chump massification
asciilifeform: old hat. east india company ran as much on the latter as the former
asciilifeform: that alone would not doom it - consider the world of usg - but the onesie-pcb-assembly business doesn't have the makings of a mass popu-chumpatron
asciilifeform: clever chumpamatic
asciilifeform: they make up the difference by nickel'n'diming the chump for the 'out of house' parts
asciilifeform: assuming the thing isn't simply a blackhole for money,
asciilifeform: i could live, for example, with an outfit that would crap out the board and place just the passives (then i xray the damn thing here. and place the actives personally)
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=12-12-2014#951698 << obligatory. old emp thread
asciilifeform: herbijudlestoids: if 'software-based' is what you want, i don't get it, you already own a computer ?
asciilifeform: decimation: also considered the nearly equally impractical ttl logic variant.
asciilifeform: decimation: their competitors are now whining, 'we want too!111!!!11'
asciilifeform will show the next attempt at a proper fix reasonably soon.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i think BingoBoingo was referring to the american usage - artist (or compulsive bathroom cleaner, see the old 'meth' thread) who stays awake for two weeks straight on 'manic episode' etc
asciilifeform: other observation is that 'ubuntu' (with the above atrocities and many others) is no more 'linux' than wintel 'is what a computer is'
asciilifeform: http://cs.fit.edu/~ryan/ada/programs << examples
asciilifeform: as in 'this one is odd and between 3 and 15 and if it ever isn't, pump in the halon
asciilifeform: if i could fork myself, i'd be severely tempted to: attempt an ada bitcoind.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not impossible. amex spends a pretty penny on (what passes for) spam and crapware control.
asciilifeform: they surrendered to the one and only mega-empire of the period.
asciilifeform: why's chicom come into it ?! << example of empire to surrender to
asciilifeform: (either one is meant to conclude that the figure is wildly implausible - or - realize that patients are not walking off with 2m each, and therefore xxx, and xxx is not a subject that can be discussed publicly in usa while retaining credibility in the state media)
asciilifeform: the $maxints that simply vanish into the mountain of paper, where a missing $bil in the balance sheets isn't even interesting to the accountants - to the extent the sums represent real, vs. imaginary buying power -
asciilifeform: the mega-bezzle isn't simply buying carriers, it's buying countless yachts, mcmansions, etc
asciilifeform: if you want to see usg spending, visit the 'potomac' quarter of d.c. area, for example
asciilifeform: 'inca empire'
asciilifeform: exempt folks in wot, these must face actual judgement of their peers
asciilifeform: potential Fourth Amendment Claim would have to be dismissed on the basis that any possible defenses would require impermissible disclosure of state secret information.'
asciilifeform: wake me up when it's 100mil and we all have to share an hour of computer at 4am tuesdays
asciilifeform looks around, quite possibly sees 5 usd digits of computer
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: people who actually *use* computers will have to pay 10k each << that's what, a piddling 2-3x what we presently pay ?
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: not so simple (doable, though) - it has to run from rom. you almost certainly must use 'buildroot.' i have a 'buildroot' config that grinds out a kernel and a userland, but said kernel fails to boot and produces no output to /dev/ttyS0 - despite being configured to do so. evidently the support for Marvell chips in the mainline 3.xx kernels is bogus.
asciilifeform: it certainly cannot be accomplished by twiddling the usual config. there is crud in there by the megatonne, glued in with glass.