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ascii_field: and is a complete os, in a sense
ascii_field: for example.
asciilifeform: i'm about to post an example
asciilifeform: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-June/000100.html << example of one of my patches listing antecedents
asciilifeform: software is not that intrinsically complicated.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes sorta implied this
asciilifeform: this, incidentally, is an important reason why patches need to be deedboted
asciilifeform: also the continuity of identity. if, for example, my patches at some point go from tiny to elephantine, from single-purpose to 'omnibus', from deadly-simple to 'wtf is that' - folks are to presume that i have been finally killed and key is in hands of hitler. and should then rate accordingly.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-08-2015#1225151 << we're not signing because it has 'upside' now. but 1) because unsigned code is 'written by no one' and hence is a work of the great satan by default implication 2) for the archaeologists 3) for the revolutionary tribunals
asciilifeform: decimation: they are the two maps which hold mempool state
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: if there is every any symptom of folks reading the ml but not #b-a, it might be worth considering to use the ml as something other than a file dumping ground for #b-a
asciilifeform: decimation: nowhere. implicit destructor
asciilifeform: but it was probably from an importer
asciilifeform: any more than hemp, for rope.
asciilifeform: or licensee complains
ascii_field: (massive impedance)
ascii_field: if this is so, it means that ~everyone who has subscribed to mpex~ is 'early adopter'
ascii_field: danielpbarron: he was a relatively early 'computer sucks and must be rebuilt' person. sadly, i've no idea what he is up to these days.
ascii_field: 'In what universe does it make cryptologic sense to keep an unchanging key around for years (decades? optimistically - centuries?) on end?' >> i said this to mr mold and i said it also to mpex !
ascii_field: he had some bloke as live-in human compiler, aha
ascii_field: missing important attributes for this
ascii_field: reimplementation ?
asciilifeform: to which i answer 'go to the harem and come back with why tx is not deallocated when mapTransactions is emptied'
asciilifeform: thing is, if something is alive inside an impenetrable bubble, it is not alive.
asciilifeform: did anyone else spot the boojum in the mempool mechanism ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to pound in the last nail (for now) in the subject: razi, avicenna, et al had it easy compared to modern folk: they could at least charge the rich folks of their time for providing something superficially like working medicine
asciilifeform: or why the food-lever-operator chimp gets a slightly weaker beating as his 'salary'
asciilifeform: or perhaps is simply fired slightly later
asciilifeform: ow live frogs whole, fresh out of the swamp, for her own perverse enjoyment of seeing the young sluts suffer. Hey, it cured Sue's pregnancy, it did! What spontaneous abortion, what coincidence, are you from like the future ?' << this is, as often is, not the complete story. there ~were~ folks who made a reputation for actually curing something
asciilifeform: does mircea_popescu need working komputermaschinen for anything?
asciilifeform while mircea_popescu was out, was in the middle of finally writing the motherfucking broadcast but paused to post the mempool guillotine
asciilifeform: even though they were much more compact than a 360
asciilifeform: it is very easy to dismiss mr.unemployable as 'plankton' without knowing anything about him
asciilifeform: this is probably why mircea_popescu suggested that they ought to compete for who can most creatively mutilate his cock on camera, rather than apply to 'walmart'
asciilifeform: how many of the 62k had computer science degrees ?
asciilifeform: no, elementary question. are there enough gay pr0nd0ll4rz to feed all the mr.unemployableprogrammerz riding their sandpaper dildos
ascii_field: and yes, i fully expect mircea_popescu to proclaim that mr. unemployableprogrammer is office plankton and ought to be boiled for soap
ascii_field: 'As a final station, I'd like to describe what online freelancer markets look like for people like me. On freelancer.com and oDesk, you compete with hundreds of lowest-wage programmers from third world countries for exceedingly crappy "projects". It's an unmitigated race to the bottom. Even if I could land these jobs in an environment where the competition basically works for free, there is no way to make a living off
asciilifeform: china: 'we already discovered it 5,000 yrs ago. here, have some fried rat turd dumpling'
asciilifeform: but we are speaking of nodes trading mempool sorted by minability value
asciilifeform: unlike the rest of bitcoin, mempool ~is~ sensitive to mitm and other real-time issues
asciilifeform: because it remains unspecified how to implement any notion of 'peers that bring good tx'
asciilifeform: if we feed the hobos the pigshit end of the priority queue, they simply have an incentive to run away to any other node
asciilifeform: if nothing, how to ramp up?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: earlier and recurrent mempool thread: consider this: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp#2776
asciilifeform: the fact that there is no standardized chipset, and that x86 is really a loose collection of mostly-incompatible shitboxes that somehow pretend to run the same soft - matters.
asciilifeform: for instance, the 'a20 gate' is almost certainly not actually implemented in your chipset
asciilifeform: for example.
asciilifeform: but that winblowz makes the kind of certainty needed to avoid the 'grasping for the handrails' described earlier, impossible
asciilifeform: i happen to believe that we have not yet devised the means for truly separating - conceptually - computer programs
asciilifeform: '...But it is the same problem we find in C++. The question to be asked of massive complexity like that is not "what wonderful things did you find out that made this necessary", but "whatever did you _miss_ that made this so horribly complex"? You can sometimes see people who are really, really dumb go about some simple tasks in a way that tells you that they have arrived at their ways of performing it through an incredibly
asciilifeform: at the end of this long process of grasping something that looked intellectually challenging lie only a complexity that resulted from _rejecting_ simplicity of design at a few crucial points. Hell, it still took me years to figure out what alternatives they _should_ have picked up, and by then it was too late.'
asciilifeform: t was the first time I had really serious doubts about the wisdom of SGML's structuring process, because the massive complexity of it all is _completely_ pointless and a result of spreading the semantics so thin that you had to keep mental track of an enormous number of relationships to end up with an idea of what something should do or mean. It does not have to be that way. It was _profoundly_ disappointing to discover that
asciilifeform: d some of the designs and how it would be implemented, and he was quiet for the longest time before he said that I was probably the first person to have understood what he was _really_ trying to accomplish. That would have been _such_ a great thing if it had been, say, rocket science, but it was not. It was a man-made complexity so great that it had required _months_ of brain-wracking to really get my intuition working. Tha
asciilifeform: 'Overriding and updating old information is something I have to work really hard at. The end result of the way I think and the way the standard is defined is that I immediately saw these massively complex ways to do things that "nobody" understood. Take HyTime and what it calls "architectual forms" -- I vividly remember a long walk around a quiet Tallahassee one summer night with the creator of this concept, when I questione
asciilifeform: in such a way as to guarantee 100% compatibility
asciilifeform: 'It is mid-boggling that a protocol that "handles assets worth billions of dollars" is defined only by a bloated C++ implementation -- maintaned by one company, that of course will not be responsible for any losses...'
asciilifeform: wasn't competing with s/360
asciilifeform: and consider also that, of all the toy computers, the one with the singularly worst design in every conceivable way, won.
asciilifeform: very often, folks forget just how much analogue strange there is in the world, that is kept (mostly) out of their digital computer
asciilifeform: decimation: look into why analogue computer went away.
asciilifeform: decimation: this and precisely this, is why i laugh at people who discuss compensation in terms of money
asciilifeform: 'the real computer' was and is programmed in asm ab initio - yes, from entirely empty space; for every task.
asciilifeform: jurov: don't confuse the retardation of unix&descendants for 'the real computer'
asciilifeform: and i'd bet good money that there is, somewhere deep inside that win2k reactor, a real computer
asciilifeform: re: binary-types, see esp. the mirror link, for example
asciilifeform: but the whole point of a computer is that you do the 50, so you don't have to do the 50,000 over next 20 years.
asciilifeform: well i just gave an example. can you tell from that picture whether it is theoretically possible for the 'subscription' routines to be called?
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> obviously c will compile for anything. but not by itself! << my point was that i put a complete kit in there. that will build x86_64 on whatever you like, x86-32, cray, pdp11.
asciilifeform: it also ~never~ happens between directly-connected nodes on my lan, for example.
asciilifeform: and 'hampered by refusal'
asciilifeform: 'The cash was seized, pending an inquiry that was hampered by the individual’s initial refusal to provide any information about its source. Once the investigation was complete and no basis for forfeiting the cash had been established, it was handed back.' << ahahahaha
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-08-2015#1221786 << no it is not 'a wonder' - it will build on a z80!!! cross-compiler, remember ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: thing is, their scam skillz are honed for a certain kind of largely-ritualized competition. like the antlers of ruminants. for actual combat - not so much
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: https://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/digital-imprimatur << obligatory re: 'how did this happen'
asciilifeform: e.g., we can now sign messages using the key Apocalyptic supplied the complete factorization for
asciilifeform: decimation: depending on what you want to do, 1980s computers are still available
asciilifeform: some logic here, some logic there, sooner or later you have your existing computer plus some weird appendage
asciilifeform: 'The Die. A die complained: "I have not been / Quite comfortable in my skin. / Of my six planes, the sitting side, / And bore it but my single mark, / Must ever gaze, not far and wide, / But into earth's eternal dark." When earth beneath him heard the cube, / She very nearly blew a tube. / "You jackass," said she, "what a farce! / I'm dark when covered by your arse! / As soon as you will move the same, I'll shine as with a ge
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: block indices are computed! because they are a function of longest-chain
asciilifeform: 66.249.75.214 - - [30/Jul/2015:23:24:28 +0300] "GET /redo/9319605DD9BFB5972272003BC0D6D2E999783C7256A75BF1BE08178A359F9542? HTTP/1.1" 302 351 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" "-"
asciilifeform: 66.249.75.222 - - [30/Jul/2015:17:27:37 +0300] "GET /redo/9319605DD9BFB5972272003BC0D6D2E999783C7256A75BF1BE08178A359F9542? HTTP/1.1" 500 291 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" "-"
asciilifeform: 66.249.75.222 - - [30/Jul/2015:14:21:36 +0300] "GET /redo/0D9057DA7AEE12C725AA9408D47F4FFC3769BEF7891A0F9C0A9F38420C5C08AB? HTTP/1.1" 502 172 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" "-"
asciilifeform: 66.249.75.206 - - [30/Jul/2015:08:31:05 +0300] "GET /redo/0D9057DA7AEE12C725AA9408D47F4FFC3769BEF7891A0F9C0A9F38420C5C08AB? HTTP/1.1" 500 291 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" "-"
asciilifeform: 66.249.75.222 - - [30/Jul/2015:02:24:46 +0300] "GET /redo/0D9057DA7AEE12C725AA9408D47F4FFC3769BEF7891A0F9C0A9F38420C5C08AB? HTTP/1.1" 500 291 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" "-"
asciilifeform: 66.249.75.214 - - [29/Jul/2015:19:06:47 +0300] "GET /redo/0D9057DA7AEE12C725AA9408D47F4FFC3769BEF7891A0F9C0A9F38420C5C08AB? HTTP/1.1" 500 291 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" "-"
asciilifeform: importprivkey ?
asciilifeform: get pile of metal - easy; get people - hard, for some - impossible
asciilifeform: It Would Be Wrong, because Simply Not Done
asciilifeform: or a plastic for implants that is invisible to immune system (an uncle al product that was magicked out of existence by u.s. fda)
asciilifeform: the heart of the matter is that these things were built by folks who simply did not believe in collapse even as a theoretical possibility.
asciilifeform: u.s. safety record of the final collapse period will quite likely make the su one look rather good in comparison.
asciilifeform: has to be ramped up soviet-style - with whiners told to go fuck a duck - rather than usg-style, where they somberly bury the spent rods in a coffin, with christian funeral
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: much depends on mempool
ascii_field: who wants to implement ?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: btw, is there any reason we oughtn't shoot any tx that's hung around in mempool for more than a few days ?
asciilifeform: desperately need formal introspection knobs for mempool.
asciilifeform: (though mempool is probably the mechanism for said leak)
asciilifeform: ain't mempool either.
asciilifeform: http://nosuchlabs.com/stats << tank is empty and is to be refilled this weekend. anyone who wants to test a key - now's the time.
asciilifeform: (my primary beef with kalugin is that he is one of the folks actively working to ensure that an honest primary history of the 20th c. can never be written; rather than anything he did in the wars of the empires)
asciilifeform: point is that 'heroes hang when traitors triumph' (tm) (r)
asciilifeform: thus it does not compete in any market where american product is present
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: given as the whole purpose of elbrus, to the extent it had one, is to be a non-nato computer
ascii_field: phf: please give more specific example ?
ascii_field: it's that simple.
ascii_field: the docs mentioned that one could buy 'write-once tapes', for usg regulatory compliance
ascii_field: there is an important difference between 'x will not happen because i promise not to stick it in that hole, really' and 'x cannot happen because physics'
ascii_field: descriptor, making it impossible for them to write to addresses outside the buffer.'
ascii_field: 'In monolithic operating systems, a driver can write to any word of memory and thus accidentally trash user programs. In MINIX 3, when a user expects data from, for example, the file system, it builds a descriptor telling who has access and at what addresses. It then passes an index to this descriptor to the file system, which may pass it to a driver. The file system or driver then asks the kernel to write via the
ascii_field: aha, even f-students know that they were once empires.
ascii_field: roughly: 'let us remind, yesterday, pravda.ru yesterday described the speech of the ambassador of north kr, kim hen jeon, who pronounced that his country will not follow the example of iran and go into talks with the west re: nuclear disarmament. instead, pyongyang will actively prepare for a nuclear tension, given the fact that usa is increasing its involvement with training of the south kr army.'
asciilifeform: that simple.
asciilifeform: no routing of forged dest ip >>>>> no amplification ddos.
asciilifeform: go, 'feel safe' because you went along with usg's transparent attempt to ban the only presently working single-packet transmission medium.
asciilifeform: but will point out that the million-chump botnet can just as easily transmit syn flood as udp crud
asciilifeform: to filter tcp syn vs empty udp
asciilifeform: because SAME FUCKING COMPUTATIONAL LOAD
asciilifeform: but even simpler fix,
asciilifeform: decimation: simply storing the last 20 or so would do it
asciilifeform: 120v is no mere curio to the folks in the u.s. or post-u.s. world whose cities burn on account of pinched-cable-and-too-many-amps
asciilifeform: it is physically impossible to get any easier to filter than udp-with-signature
asciilifeform: decimation: not decent at all. but ~works~ for this example
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-07-2015#1217330 << we vivisected drepper here on several occasions. he is ~the~ most accomplished publicly-known gavin thus far.
ascii_field: gernika: ultimately it is a set of pigs competing for trough of the u.s. fed arse-mouth-system printing usd to buy stocks with
ascii_field somehow found himself implementing an ip stack
ascii_field: the only way to have this is for everyone to also build the compiler
ascii_field: can you compile a 'hello world' with it ?
ascii_field: shinohai built his, for example
asciilifeform: machine room temp.
asciilifeform: when obamitler is impaled at nuremberg - then, done, yes.
asciilifeform: mr nsa firmware diddler reads morning papers, for months, containing snowden (tm). decides to fuck his employer, who he never really liked
asciilifeform: hence same as if importing by post from ethiopia or whatever.
asciilifeform would like to be able to drink a ~decent~ cup of coffee without having to personally import, roast, and grind the beans
asciilifeform: specifically, the one thing edison is known with certainty to have invented is inferior-tech-empire-propped-by-pseudoentrepreneurial-fud
ascii_field: (inquiring minds want to know: is there a physical 'dogecoin' ? and, importantly, is it made from pressed dogue shit?!)
asciilifeform: it is also important to note that it is a ~heat engine~
asciilifeform: 'Berrett also used his company credit card to spend $131.08 with Interactive Life Forms, parent company of sex-toy maker Fleshlight, and listed the purchase as exam test prep questions, the indictment says. Berrett paid $226.50 for a wine shipment from the Gold Medal Wine Club, listing the purchase as a “Bribe for the UNIX guys.”'
asciilifeform: (consumer scanners, however, will not even attempt aes decrypt)
asciilifeform: coderwill: can still pick'em up with modern computerized scanner (p25)
asciilifeform: for comparison, an infantryman's basic rifle is ~$2k.
asciilifeform: what's to keep the enemy from simply walking around with a proper commercial tower business end
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-07-2015#1214534 << they are simply imitating mit, the way small-time crooks slavishly imitate famous mega-sc4mz0rz
ascii_field: if it doesn't - walk your box out behind the shed & shoot it, get a real computer
ascii_field: ^ entirely incomplete summary
ascii_field: when somebody like me says 'let's design computer from scratch', a 'roi/tco' type reads 'let's make a megatonne pyre of money and light it'
asciilifeform: could simply walks around and hope pastor doesn't notice ?
asciilifeform: 'GPG for data at rest. TLS for data in motion. You can also use Guttman’s cryptlib, which has a sane API. Or Google Keyczar. They both have really simple interfaces, and they try to make it hard to do the wrong thing.' << l0l!!
asciilifeform: <ben_vulpes> cranks need turning, no avoiding that. << wtf is the point of a computer if not to avoid this ?
asciilifeform: it was an example of a variety of ~sane behaviours in an os~
asciilifeform: the coveted 'garden of eden' situation where ~there isn't a microshit~, when there is not a usg department-of-computing that has its tentacles in every orifice - won't be coming back until some quasi-mythical breakthrough decentralizes chip fabbing
asciilifeform: onsequences of bad (working to destroy) and sometimes evil (intended to destroy) policy and ignorant idiots with too much power. One of the consequences is that software development is paid for over the marketing budgets, like cheap plastic pens with logo imprints that work no longer than you remember where you got it and T-shirts of so low quality that they couldn't have been sold as clothes -- when you give some trinket awa
asciilifeform: ly those in the government offices in charge of squeezing the juice of out the produce of society. I think the software crisis has been created by the tax laws and government officials who were unable to understand the value of the computer industry products. Since the Western business world is operating very closely in a trigger-response pattern relative to changes to the tax laws, the regulators are fully to blame for the
asciilifeform: clisp is a mostly-standardcompliant implementation of the language - but very slow
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i confess that i have not attempted to run it
asciilifeform: pgpdump: zlib inflate error (-3).
asciilifeform: Comp alg - ZIP <RFC1951>(comp 1)
asciilifeform: Old: Compressed Data Packet(tag 8)
asciilifeform: $ pgpdump -i ak47_05243673e45fc4c4ce30467f8ffc003deec1d184.sh.sig
asciilifeform: even some of the most bitterly chumpatronic drm-encrusted turd formats aren't paginated
asciilifeform: several kinds are implemented. decoded 'in hardware' (that is to say, of course, by the thing running that microcode..)
asciilifeform: if someone is dumb enough to buy into such a chumpatron, why bother serving up anything but pablum
ascii_field: printing press - full, had to be emptied
asciilifeform: afaik all such chumpatrons are approximately the same
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: usg is specifically opposed to inexpensive, simple, reliable fission
asciilifeform: 'The senior officers of the GRU have a particular dislike of Western nuclear power stations, which reduce the West's dependence on imported oil (including Soviet oil) and make it stronger and more independent. They are one of spetsnaz's, most important targets.'
asciilifeform: 'They said it would be unrealistic to close more than 20 of 58 reactors now in operation in the next 10 years. The legislation also includes a target of reducing the country's greenhouse gas emissions by 40 percent by 2030, compared to the level in 1990. The new law aims to eventually halve France's energy consumption by 2050 from the 2012 level.'
asciilifeform: i didn't even discover the pseudostaticity of 'pseudostatic' bin until attempted a pogo run
asciilifeform: (in no case is the dope cost-competitive with the 'street')
asciilifeform: (and, more importantly, for doing virtually nothing!)
asciilifeform: saw it in museum, hanging, fuselage was the size of a compact car
asciilifeform: empty ?
asciilifeform: because just about all of the complexity is in the computer.
asciilifeform: sorta the logical maximum of 'offload complexity to software'
asciilifeform: part of the reason for cutting heads is so that no one even begins to idly contemplate the notion that 'you didn't build that'
asciilifeform: revolution is so that you can make this 'computer' from meat.
asciilifeform: when nth beer is empty
asciilifeform: very easy to 'give less of a shit about govt' all the way until you find yourself trying the 'be tribal' thing in a usg death camp.
asciilifeform admires the audacity and virility of che et al separately from the peculiar follies of 20th c. mega-empires
ascii_field: hanbot: you are missing a c++ compiler
asciilifeform: 'Manwin used their traffic to sell ad space to those same production companies they enabled theft from. Production companies paid a lot for banners. Manwin then began buying the companies they had helped devalue, including Digital Playground—the company I was contracted to for a number of years. I believe the worst sorts of capitalists would consider Manwin’s behavior a win of the highest order.' << sop
asciilifeform: 'those with title to something worthless will find a way to extract value from it, making it even more worthless. An abandoned suburban subdivision might be worthless as housing, but valuable as a dump site for toxic waste.' (orlov, who else)
asciilifeform: tcpdump -s 0 port 8333 -w turd.pcap
asciilifeform: i'ma let it run until it syncs, and then dump the blocks that ~did~ get through
asciilifeform: between this and the block parser, we have maybe a quarter of a cl implementation of bitcoin here...
ascii_field: ;;later tell mircea_popescu can haz a pcap dump of the ddos packets plz ?
ascii_field: in quite other news, i found a simple and software-only means of reading and writing the nand fw of 'miracast'
ascii_field: it gets thousands of these 'silent' connection attempts
asciilifeform: d immediately and held incommunicado, under house arrest at a minimum. No doubt foreign special services would have run rampant, looking for ways to undermine the revolutionary government. This would have called for drastic preemptive measures to physically eliminate foreign spies and agents before they could have had a chance to act. And so on. This wouldn't have been a job for fluffy mini-poodles. '
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208512 << mircea_popescu will be pleased to learn that this part of the program has been accomplished! i, for instance, have no idea what serious disposable money even smells like from a cannon's shot away !
asciilifeform: and for some more lulz. tried to find some material re: 'non-outsourceable puzzles', vaguely recalled that it was an idea whereby mining pool is made impossible on account of any participant being able to undetectably claim the entire reward for himself. then learned that there is no such field, properly speaking, as 'non-outsourceable puzzles', and that it was a crackpot creation of miller (the one featured in http://trilema.
asciilifeform wonders if anyone has carried out any serious public work whatsoever re: mempool tx propagation
asciilifeform: public discourse - aha, nasdaq, not mpex
asciilifeform: i am not impressed.
asciilifeform: e.g., 'lock the kidz in a room and let'em out once some of them compose a passable symphony'
asciilifeform: life is so empty without it
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-07-2015#1207955 << ample precedent for this crap. http://www.loper-os.org/?p=163 -- and also that famous find where 'skype' turned out to slow deliberately when CPUID instruction returned something other than intel
asciilifeform: and another (also experimental) that adds 'flushmempool'
asciilifeform: kinda reminds me of the 'why not connect air compressor to the tuba' concept
asciilifeform: if it can be done manually, economically, i would not be using a fucking computer !
asciilifeform: decimation: hardware can also make certain operations impractically unreliable (e.g., persistence across power toggles) or impractically slow (e.g., all-pointers-are-typed-pointers as on lispm will never happen on x86)
asciilifeform: didn't ben_vulpes get hold of an actual computer at some point recently ?
asciilifeform: on the real machine, you could actually execute the examples in the docs browser.
asciilifeform: that is, an attempt to simulate 'proper computer' in this specific way.
asciilifeform: that is, updates - dog-slow, for example
asciilifeform: mempool is by far the weakest link in the chain we have today
asciilifeform: optically-pumped repeaters are sop for... last decade ?
asciilifeform: quite empty
asciilifeform: punkman: here in dc region they use tanks of compressed co2
asciilifeform: phf: it would be absolutely trivial to send blocks in a sane way to compatible clients. 'embrace & extend' protocol
asciilifeform: think of it this way - the mempool isn't, by the same token, really 'part of bitcoin' either
asciilifeform: while remaining compatible
asciilifeform: generally speaking, your machine - to an attacker lacking the keys - must look exactly like an empty wall socket to the enemy.
asciilifeform: but the aspect i'd like to emphasize - one which mircea_popescu thought to be an optional frill and did not include in his spec - is the single-packet authentication.
asciilifeform: jurov: the point is that the million wolves are, in your example, all lining up at one gate
asciilifeform: ^ actually 9 out of 10 times that i smash some piece of shit from sheer contempt, it is because of chinafication and 'market' penny-shaving, rather than direct usg mandated suck
asciilifeform: 'It wouldn’t surprise me to find, for example, a sudden proliferation of heavy-duty “water cans” in 1- and 5-gallon sizes, complete with nice spouts and vents, looking almost exactly like the gas cans you could get anywhere just a few years ago. How very interesting to discover this. Of course, this law-abiding writer would never advocate buying one of these and using it for some purpose other than what is written on the
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: can take small computer, instrument with geophones, etc, and pour cement.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: 'vaultputer' - recall the ancient thread re: nuke test compliance geosensors ?
asciilifeform: no one thinks 'it is a computer'
ascii_field: empty jack
ascii_field: can buy a fucking computer for that.
ascii_field: of the most common protocols to NIC hardware in order to prevent spurious wake up and further reduce power consumption. The RTL8111E can offload ARP (IPv4) and NS (IPv6) protocols while in the D3 power saving state. '
ascii_field: (on the mr mold example from last night. got everything that's worth anything there)
ascii_field: ever look at what vt100 and its contemporaries cost ?
ascii_field lulz at the folks who nod when he says 'computer should cost $100k and be a heirloom' who then tell about the coffee they spilled in their 7th laptop
asciilifeform: there is a thicker, nameless book which contains the list of SES ('senior executive service') employees
asciilifeform: not because it is impossible to devise improved mechanisms - but on account of the 'pascal's wager' involved
asciilifeform had a thought: possibly, if satoshi's stash were ~larger~ than it is, he could be considered 'beyond reproach' if he were to surface and propose a fork, on the logic that he could not stand to gain from any deception. but it still would not rule out usgification, or simple error.
asciilifeform: and no $maxint pumped into the storage battery
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: unless i misunderstood, your implication in earlier thread was that satoshi (in the person of his key) could pop up, propose some arbitrary strange, and have such carry weight on account of him being the famous satoshi
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