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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.15099999 = 1.812 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.15090322 = 1.509 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 13 @ 0.15099999 = 1.963 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 14 @ 0.15090322 = 2.1126 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 13 @ 0.15099999 = 1.963 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24687 @ 0.00056448 = 13.9353 BTC [-] {2}
decimation: http://spacenews.com/china-eyes-purchase-of-sea-launch-assets/ < "Struggling commercial launch-service provider Sea Launch AG and its owner, Energia of Russia, are in talks with the Chinese government on selling the Sea Launch command ship and launch platform to Chinese interests that would station the system in international waters offshore China, industry officials said."
assbot: China Eyes Purchase of Sea Launch Assets - SpaceNews.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kfufw9 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89998 @ 0.00059234 = 53.3094 BTC [+] {5}
BingoBoingo: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3dw01g/worlds_first_bitcoin_only_mmorpg_with_possibility/
assbot: Worlds first Bitcoin only MMORPG with possibility to earn actual Satoshi's, Eulora is gaining momentum. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mf1E9D )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00058117 = 11.7978 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27473 @ 0.00057034 = 15.669 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44576 @ 0.00057049 = 25.4302 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88468 @ 0.00058089 = 51.3902 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2832 @ 0.00059287 = 1.679 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 113626 @ 0.00059344 = 67.4302 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56624 @ 0.00059945 = 33.9433 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71435 @ 0.00056466 = 40.3365 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 151100 @ 0.00056086 = 84.7459 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73446 @ 0.00060033 = 44.0918 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74850 @ 0.00055337 = 41.4197 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15159 @ 0.00056862 = 8.6197 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17767 @ 0.00054599 = 9.7006 BTC [-]
punkman: !up rooder
rooder: so sell me an island
punkman: would you also like a bridge with that?
rooder: nah, ive a boat
punkman: banks reopen after 3 weeks
punkman: you can't get your money but they still call it a bank
rooder: meanwhile al buys unheard of island to open a cannery
rooder: all in bitcoin
rooder: 600 euro a week?
rooder: dats rood
punkman: 420 a week
rooder: oh
rooder: did you vote?
punkman: I got better things to do
rooder: no donkey?
rooder: busy working on bitcoin darkpools?
rooder: world is funny
rooder: greece is very broke
punkman: http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2015/07/17-efsm-bridge-loan-greece/
assbot: EFSM: Council approves €7bn bridge loan to Greece - Consilium ... ( http://bit.ly/1MCCYpB )
rooder: is germany that frightened of turkish bread?
punkman: "The loan will have a maximum maturity of three months and will be disbursed in up to two instalments. It will allow Greece to clear its arrears with the IMF and the Bank of Greece and to repay the ECB, until Greece would start receiving financing under a new programme from the European Stability Mechanism"
rooder: i dont understand
rooder: you reside in england now?
rooder: where you dont need crowbars to final loans
punkman: yeah but all that rain
punkman: too wet
rooder: lol
rooder: you proley live down the road
rooder: that said the economics here are equally retarded\
rooder: have decimation look at it
rooder: little bit like nz little bit like france ... voila
rooder: bro
rooder: eat pig
rooder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zALx9vDhjWU
rooder: what does greece actually own?
rooder: no pigs no roads
rooder: some old math
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39050 @ 0.00055957 = 21.8512 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: !up nanaki
BingoBoingo: !up GoonClooney
BingoBoingo: !up wgromniak
nanaki: trilema.com is down now, I think.
BingoBoingo: http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/revealed-why-slim-people-dislike-the-overweight-459459.html
assbot: Revealed: why slim people dislike the overweight - Health News - Health & Families - The Independent ... ( http://bit.ly/1RIN52O )
BingoBoingo: ;;isup qntra.net
gribble: qntra.net is down
BingoBoingo: ;;isup trilema.com
gribble: trilema.com is down
BingoBoingo: :(
BingoBoingo: Much sad
nanaki: Must I wait 4-5 hours to meet mircea_popescu here?
Naphex: nanaki: you can just join when he's around
BingoBoingo: It's really hard to tell when he will return. Might be back in 5 minutes or 18 hours. Eulora made him even less predictable than before.
nanaki: thanks :)
cazalla: the great thing about irc though is that you can leave a message now and just tab back in an hour, tmw or even next week
BingoBoingo: !up hazirafel
BingoBoingo: !up shesek
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41200 @ 0.00057582 = 23.7238 BTC [+] {2}
punkman: !up rooder
rooder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0kcet4aPpQ
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61612 @ 0.00054585 = 33.6309 BTC [-] {2}
rooder: blondie next
rooder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGU_4-5RaxU
assbot: Blondie - Heart Of Glass - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1HEaPx2 )
rooder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgPUxjQOk-w
nanaki: My (nanaki's) message to mircea_popescu: I have placed a bet on bitbet.us and sent BTCs and successfully confirmed at block# 366130 but the website doesn't apply it. The bottom of the page says "Last block: 1 hour 4 minutes ago (366131)" so it must have applied my bet. ==> SOLVED: the site reflected my bet 1h 18m later since confirmed. Usually the reflection is quick so I slightly panicked! Thank you.
rooder: David Bowie - D.J.
rooder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6myNbk15sMs <<
assbot: Lightning Seeds - Pure - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1RIPXwE )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80582 @ 0.00056746 = 45.7271 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71362 @ 0.0005842 = 41.6897 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49838 @ 0.00058898 = 29.3536 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00057986 = 9.9736 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85550 @ 0.00059922 = 51.2633 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86254 @ 0.00059922 = 51.6851 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00059922 = 6.0521 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60984 @ 0.00059922 = 36.5428 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89498 @ 0.00060014 = 53.7113 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: aww someone got butthurt ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71400 @ 0.00058952 = 42.0917 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00058334 = 8.1084 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: 311M 996G LOGDROPIN all -- !lo * 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 lulz
mircea_popescu: incidentally kakobrekla could assbot be changed so instead of dropping a bitly links it drops an archive.today link ?
mircea_popescu: at least get an archive for teh effort.
kakobrekla: ill check
mircea_popescu: danke
mircea_popescu: !up hazirafel
hazirafel: would you use a program that sends bitcoin to the cruch of satane very time you enter facebook?
hazirafel: curch
mircea_popescu: i don't have a facebook ?
mircea_popescu: and what's "enter" anyway, every time you load a webpage that pulls their fucktarded button ?
hazirafel: good
hazirafel: no
mircea_popescu: for that matter what's "the church of satan"
mircea_popescu: well no. why not.
hazirafel: google it
hazirafel: oks
mircea_popescu: google is not in my wot.
hazirafel: look it up in the phone book :)
cazalla: hazirafel, why the CoS instead of some other charity?
hazirafel: just a thought
hazirafel: something not liked/funny
mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/2EASGTJ << the denyin reference for that 311M pkts logdropin thing, on the off chance anyone gives a shit about the details
mircea_popescu: pro tip : if your AN is in there you're a fucktard, i don't care if your name is "verizon"
mircea_popescu: s/AN/ASN/
cazalla: hazirafel, i would suggest the Human Fund
mircea_popescu: heh
hazirafel: this? http://www.the-human-fund.org/heritage/
assbot: About — The Human Fund ... ( http://bit.ly/1LmJlAa )
cazalla: whatever
hazirafel: thanks
mircea_popescu: ahahaha what!
mircea_popescu: hazirafel it's a seinfeld reference.
mircea_popescu: and here's something to bother my man cazalla : http://38.media.tumblr.com/d79ced52386260419f282a6cbea59cc0/tumblr_n5oxc1uPJp1trwqu4o1_400.gif
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1LmJBiF )
cazalla: lol why would that bother me
hazirafel: art
mircea_popescu: a well, was worth a shot.
cazalla: speaking of Seinfeld.. "On Wednesday (April 29) the online streaming service Hulu struck a deal with the “show about nothing,” paying $700,000 per episode ($130 million) for the rights to add the series to its already stellar lineup."
mircea_popescu: not bad
mircea_popescu: dude makes money while sleeping.
hazirafel: heh
hazirafel: maybe i'll watch the episode
mircea_popescu: btw cazalla qntra should be back now. not sure how long it'll hold, but - publish anything you may have backing up your publishpipes
mircea_popescu: and archive the pages lol.
cazalla: thankfully it's been quiet, BingoBoingo might have one or had one in mind though
mircea_popescu: aww.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell nanaki find a better hobby, what can i tell you.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: my quest to disturb cazalla continues. http://38.media.tumblr.com/8824129a0d3e247174ee10e89fd30918/tumblr_myl0k5QvGj1qjhn09o2_400.gif
cazalla: that's a pretty fail attempt tbh
mircea_popescu: ;/
mircea_popescu: ima go cut
mircea_popescu: some grass now.
cazalla: sok for another woman to lick an ass, just don't ask me to do it, sorta how fucking twins is fine as you're not the one committing incest
mircea_popescu: how are you not lol
mircea_popescu: you think the married woman is committing adultery alone ?
kakobrekla: whats the difference between female tongue and male tongue ???
mircea_popescu: female tongue is split
mircea_popescu: no wait, i was thinking of the wrong species.
cazalla: kakobrekla, i don't know, it's not about that anyway, i just don't fancy sticking my tongue there but to each their own
mircea_popescu: cazalla well you realise if your bar for being bothered is "being pictures of ME doing things", i got god's own work cut out for me here...
cazalla: mircea_popescu, how is it an incestous act for me if i am not related to them?
mircea_popescu: cuz you're in it.
cazalla: fuck, so be it then if it mean doing twins
mircea_popescu: ehehe.
mircea_popescu: problem with doing twins is that, like anything else in life, you get used to it.
cazalla: and nothing much bothers me, why should i be bothered someone else enjoys giving rimjobs
cazalla: i'll have to take your word for it as this is a problem i doubt i will ever have
mircea_popescu: anyway. my grassy knoll awaits. later!
cazalla: it's only smellz
shinohai: http://gizmodo.com/hackers-threaten-to-expose-40-million-cheating-ashleyma-1718965334
assbot: Hackers Threaten to Expose 37 Million Cheating AshleyMadison Users ... ( http://bit.ly/1TLVEr6 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 91988 @ 0.00057922 = 53.2813 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32678 @ 0.00057293 = 18.7222 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00059668 = 7.19 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31750 @ 0.00058489 = 18.5703 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25812 @ 0.00058489 = 15.0972 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46250 @ 0.0005728 = 26.492 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44050 @ 0.00056223 = 24.7662 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22809 @ 0.00055666 = 12.6969 BTC [-]
decimation: my blk0009.dat diverges from mod6's too - one of my blk0008.dat matches his (sha256sums). Something weird happens in blk0009 (approx block height < 300k)
decimation: my blk0009.dat 6f230687f04b41d5cc3d5f3b9cdd497c1b9103394eeda96cef1d0998b3c5d185 : I'm syncing from ascii's node using 'stator'
shinohai should try a resync to ascii's node
mod6: as a reminder tho, those hashes of my .dat files were from "the wild" sync.
mod6: i'll be revisiting this not too long from now with some hashes from mp's orig chain
shinohai: @ mod6 does the MP node sync past the phork now?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2863 @ 0.00055666 = 1.5937 BTC [-]
mod6: haven't gotten there yet on nsl's node
mod6: height=351462
shinohai: ah k
mod6: my openbsd one is crawling along.
shinohai: I haven't synced stator yet. My release 0.5.3 is still up always though.
mod6: height=205332
mod6: 0.5.3.1 ?
shinohai: yeah that one
mod6: nice, what block are you on?
shinohai: 366172 it updated but on regular blockchain
mod6: did it sync the same way from block 0->current in the same manner, i.e. by finding nodes all over irc?
shinohai: mod6 yes it only connected to irc nodes i guess, since it is before the irc demolition.
mod6: good deal man.
shinohai: pogo is on hold until I get an ssd, still is a great chat server
mod6: thanks for reporting back on that
mod6: haha, pogo chat server?
shinohai: It's nice being the first guy to destroy a SATA installing arch on a pogo
mod6: it bricked the drive?
shinohai: yeah. made a screech and was gone. I have had that one forever though. I got 5 more old satas but I should just do things right with an ssd
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00055316 = 1.7701 BTC [-]
mod6: yikes, threw a bering 'eh
shinohai: yup
mod6: well, thanks for putting in the effort to test this stuff, we appreciate it.
mod6: effort & parts!
shinohai: I love this shit, takes me a bit of time to catch up with you warriors, but I'm getting there.
mod6: for sure. thanks, we need all the help we can get.
shinohai: Buying a pogo with btc that was on my 0.5.3. node was kinda cool too.
asciilifeform: i thought everybody knew, at this point, that one cannot expect to end up with same blkxxxx at all times, on account of forklets.
shinohai: I kinda figured that but what can you do.
asciilifeform: in other nyooz, 69 active connections on s.nsa's node.
asciilifeform: new recordz every day.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> i thought everybody knew, at this point, that one cannot expect to end up with same blkxxxx at all times, on account of forklets. << yeah i recall.
mod6: i guess more importantly than that, im gonna do a for(0->366XXX) dump of each block and hash it, compare it to the list that you ended up with ascii.
asciilifeform: somebody found a bug in 'blkcut' but did not follow up re: replicating
mod6: 69! yeah, we need more nodes.
asciilifeform: ( danielpbarron ? )
mod6: is this the one where blkcut error made it fall over?
asciilifeform: aha
shinohai: asciilifeform: which is the nsa lab node at again?
mod6: same ip
asciilifeform: 195.211.154.159:8333
shinohai: @ mod6 when I raise a few more btc and a few bugs worked out, I am going to put 2 more up, one at my gf's house and one at my friends.
mod6: heheh. well, just make sure if you /do/ put up a node, it is somewhat phasar resistant
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00055316 = 4.5912 BTC [-]
mod6: I'm gonna put up a few too, but gotta wait about 6 wks.
mod6: ;/
shinohai: me too. First ssd, then expansion. >;3
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://xkcd.com/1553
assbot: xkcd: Public Key ... ( http://bit.ly/1JbHqgh )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: dat comic
mod6: haha
shinohai: Also, if anyone needs proofreaing and ed work done this week I am free to work :D
mod6: actually...
mod6: if you're looking for something to keep you busy for an evening, you can test out the gentoo x86-64 nomultilib guide
mod6: :]
mod6: we need a 3rd person to verify this thing so i can finally send it to the lst.
shinohai: link me. I have never installed gentoo in my life, but a good time to learn
mod6: ah, yeah, so ... this guide is for a physical box (takes you through using livecd) -- if you wanna set it up in a VM im sure you can do something similar with a livecd, just hvae to attach the iso file to the virtual dvd/cdrom drive.. and probably follow the same steps.
mod6: http://thebitcoin.foundation/gentoo-stage3-amd64-nomultilib-guide.txt && http://thebitcoin.foundation/gentoo-stage3-amd64-uclibc-hardened-guide-wFullExamples.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JbIAZ3 )
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JbID76 )
mod6: bah. ignore that second one. that's for uclibc.
mod6: here's the second one with full examples for nomultilib: http://thebitcoin.foundation/gentoo-stage3-amd64-nomultilib-guide-wFullExamples.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JbIHnx )
shinohai: Thanks mod6 I'll get on it this evenin'
shinohai usually ignores notes on distros besides his own
mod6: shinohai: awesome! no rush either. when you get time is cool. let me know how it goes, i'll be around to answer q's.
shinohai: np an education is a terrible thing to waste.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65332 @ 0.00055429 = 36.2129 BTC [+] {2}
mod6: the first doc is just the commands you need, so it's kinda cut/pasteable. the second is the commands with their output so you can get a sense of what you should expect to see.
shinohai: I'm a masochist and type everything LOL
mod6: haha, no worries. that's fine too.
shinohai: Time is the most important asset for testing. I still want to prove that a small group can outproduce the "bitcoin foundation" sans their immense budget they blew.
asciilifeform: outproduce ?
shinohai: outproduce: Make a better product.
shinohai: Or a more high-performing one.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 109083 @ 0.00056146 = 61.2457 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33917 @ 0.00056865 = 19.2869 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66650 @ 0.00055196 = 36.7881 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36800 @ 0.00055086 = 20.2716 BTC [-]
trinque: RUN MOAR GENTOO
asciilifeform: ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52808 @ 0.00056298 = 29.7298 BTC [+]
shinohai: whelp it seems pogos make excellent mining controllers, not that I mine anymore.
trinque: asciilifeform: sincerely.
trinque: shinohai: guide's really easy
shinohai: Looks so trinque, and I hopped on craigslist and bought a shitty laptop for $100
trinque: nice.
shinohai: So new toy for later yay
trinque: they've got "Free Geek" here for scrap
trinque: I tend to make my way there once a week or so
shinohai: I wish we had something like that here. I blow so much on used equipment xD
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53400 @ 0.00055086 = 29.4159 BTC [-]
trinque: shinohai: sometimes goodwill also has an electronics dept, depending on where you're at
shinohai: Yeah but they have incredibly shitty electronics at our Goodwill. I usually troll craigslist and sometimes get free parts.
shinohai: But today, pickings were slim and I needed a spare lappy
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68350 @ 0.00054738 = 37.4134 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ty but no :D
mircea_popescu: shinohai working on the 950kb bogus block atm.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: working how? single-stepping the thing ?
shinohai: Thank you for your continued dedication.
mircea_popescu: poor mod6 no time to mine because all this foundation stuff fell on his head.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform basically.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36952 @ 0.00054514 = 20.144 BTC [-]
mod6: haha
mircea_popescu: to continue the chick in rubber skin thread, http://38.media.tumblr.com/c42b2ab51e7e9e85ad0c04c935504746/tumblr_n3u2tstiHD1rnqh33o2_r1_500.gif
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mga9S0 )
mircea_popescu: incidentally, anyone amused at how the "mainstream media" took all of five seconds to decide random white dude was "racially motivated" blowing up a black church, wheras they're still "trying to look for motives" that paki dude shot up the marines ?
mircea_popescu: sandniggers can't be raceist!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this apparatus works, i was told, like the ubiquitous kitchen vacuum sealer machine. but with an airhole. it is popular where i live, i was told.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform quite so yes.
mircea_popescu: and i suspect all this is autism related and should prolly be a med insurance deductable, like kinetotherapy.
asciilifeform: kinda reminds me of the 'why not connect air compressor to the tuba' concept
asciilifeform: not everything oughta be mechanized
mircea_popescu: there is this particular thing in autists where being compressed widely helps
asciilifeform: the chick who told me about the vacuum bed was into it as a straight bdsm thing iirc
trinque: man that thing makes me uncomfortable
trinque: anybody ever wants my launch codes, there's the way
asciilifeform: peine forte et dure !!
trinque: mircea_popescu: I could see it being nice for people with sensory overload issues
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17809 @ 0.0005607 = 9.9855 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 98979 @ 0.00055194 = 54.6305 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6621 @ 0.00054514 = 3.6094 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00056298 = 2.7023 BTC [+]
lobbesbot: New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=4294967297 (Sven Arnold ; ) <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/DC9D7BC1ADFF9D074C29DA18CB7224920FDAABD2348152DE296A6293FF3C1914#1A76F4EB3DC6C31C58912BB58D3C9DCDC00B82C9614792BADBFB0CE75DE943B3>
shinohai: Another one bites the dust.
trinque: mod6: BingoBoingo: what are your opinions on using random-id and reassemble tcp in incoming traffic through pf?
trinque: and more generally, any recommended practices?
trinque has found the openbsd manpages to be in a class of their own
trinque: exceptionally thorough
mod6: trinque: what are you trying to achieve?
trinque: mod6: best practices for home router with several hosts behind it
mod6: im not positive (i don't have access to my pf.conf atm) that i've ever used random-id. i think that's for a very specific problem. but yeah you probably /do/ want scrub all reassemble tcp
trinque: cool, am doing that
mod6: looks like you can use random-id for some normalizatoin purposes... main thing is here, read the pf.conf man page 2x and then build up your firewall and use the heck outta tcpdump to ensure what your rule set is as you want it.
mod6: start simple, then build in more complexity as only necessary.
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BingoBoingo: Looks like Qntra survived this weekend better than Gawker did https://archive.is/joOPE
BingoBoingo: <trinque> mod6: BingoBoingo: what are your opinions on using random-id and reassemble tcp in incoming traffic through pf? << Haven't used either of those yet. Pretty much use block, pass, and queue
trinque: k
trinque: former seems like handling internal host derpage (winblowz for example)
trinque: latter seems to have to do with hiding facts about the inner network topology
BingoBoingo: Then don't have derpy internal hosts
trinque: yeah
trinque: maybe asciilifeform's perspective on mitigations applies to the latter
trinque: rather, both
asciilifeform: wai wat
trinque: asciilifeform: re aslr and other things
trinque: seemed to be a point about superficial mitigations vs fixing the underlying issue
trinque: in this case it'd be as BingoBoingo said, don't have fucking dumb hosts that can't TCP
asciilifeform does not play whackamole
asciilifeform will not encourage others to play it
trinque: yeah
punkman: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1177298
trinque: braindamage
mod6: asciilifeform: ever get a chance to look at those bins?
asciilifeform: unfortunately not
mod6: np. it can wait for a bit.
mod6: the openssl configure script (perl lel) seems to indicate that no-shared is the default -- but i wanna be sure.
mod6: openssl-1.0.1g # grep "my \$no_shared" Configure \ my $no_shared=0; # but "no-shared" is default
scoopbot_revived: Ashley Madison Hacked http://qntra.net/2015/07/ashley-madison-hacked/
mod6: wat
mod6: oh
asciilifeform: 'and leaving their interesting and activities oriented towards extramarital dating exposed.' << ?
mod6: strangely worded
trinque: might've meant "interest"
trinque: whole sentence needs to be chopped and screwed
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hanbot: ey mircea_popescu http://www.nasdaq.com/article/the-cryptocold-war-bitcoins-politics-of-scalability-cm497963
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BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/Bvp9c << Just in case
mircea_popescu: hanbot heh
asciilifeform: l0l!
mircea_popescu: Mircea Popescu, who is opposed to scalability due to his vocal disdain for “the poor”
mircea_popescu: derp.
mircea_popescu: i am not opposed "to scalability". i am opposed to very specific idiocy for very clearly delineated technical reasons.
hanbot: srsly, why's "the poor" in quotes?!
mircea_popescu: i just don't happen to be clueless enough to confuse those for "Scalability". considering i am not actually a technical expert, this reflects very poorly opn the intellectual abilities and assorted scholarship of random derps opining on nasdaq.com
mircea_popescu: and in any case - it's not some "disain for the poor" that's at work. just because everyone is on a (mostly hypocritical) fixation on loving the poor does not make my position disdain
mircea_popescu: i merely do not give enough of a shit about the cause celebre du jour to neglect technical arguments for its sake.
mircea_popescu: if anyone still has a twitter account, maybe link the derp to the above. you never know when athlete face learns something from the internets.
mircea_popescu: "The views and opinions expressed herein are the views and opinions of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of The NASDAQ OMX Group, Inc." mmmmkay... then why are you publishing it ?
mircea_popescu: "oh, because fiat glbse is so desperate for <<organic traffic>> they're resorting to the politically correct version of spun content & keyword stuffing" ? kthx.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: fxd
mircea_popescu: if my father weren't a total fuckwit, he'd have told me "my son, you'll make a billion dollars before you'll read a two page item about you that manages to eschew glaring errors".
mircea_popescu: that'd have been interesting to know twenty years ago.
mircea_popescu: trinque i think the manuals are the secret reason keeping any bsd userbase.
mircea_popescu: strangely enough, nobody seems to learn anything from this.
chetty: visa doesn't dicriminate against 'the poor', they just either don't give them credit or charge them bucket for it
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> Looks like Qntra survived this weekend better than Gawker did https://archive.is/joOPE << kinda hard to keep a job that doesn't come with a salary i guess.
trinque: mircea_popescu: makes sense, they're excellent.
mircea_popescu: trinque yeah. more important for a powerful foss than gcc.
mircea_popescu: the one thing closed source can never do is good docs.
mircea_popescu: somehow the bright strategic minds involved missed this point.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Oh those were the paid, pretentious herders of the unpaid. But since Denton clamped down on their lulz Apparently herding interns is too much nao.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> the one thing closed source can never do is good docs. << But then how would they sell support as a seperate product?
mod6: I linked him
mircea_popescu: the "sell support" model has been thoroughly debunked in the field. or at least that's the moral i draw from revierwing history.
mircea_popescu: the only endpoint for that is where rhel ended up : a cheaper USG Department of Windows.
mircea_popescu: if that's what you aim to do with your life, go to new york join the police force.
BingoBoingo: "sell support" worked for cisco and oracle when marketing to the helpless and overencumbered with bezzle
mircea_popescu: better union, better insurance, etc.
mircea_popescu: it pointedly did not work foir cisco.
mircea_popescu: it took them to the same dark place, and recently cost them their entire business.
asciilifeform: meanwhile i'm about to stand up another node!
mircea_popescu: yay.
mod6: http://twitter.com/modsix/status/623222065982607360
asciilifeform: (likely, no sooner than tomorrow noon. but it is cooking, yes)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you paying for the server or just using one already deployed ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: using a box i've been hiring for years, 'in case'
mircea_popescu: aha. if you wish to pro-rate towards nsa budget i'll ok it.
asciilifeform: it's a cheapo box with a 10meg line and 70gb disk
asciilifeform: probably will fill some time reasonably soon, at which point i'll finally cancel the contract on it
mircea_popescu: k
asciilifeform: gonna stand up more boxes in various places, incl. phriends who expressed interest
mircea_popescu: cool deal.
mircea_popescu: lol @ mod6 s twitter location
BingoBoingo: Not even a year and thing's now something to stand up on boxes
mircea_popescu: how's the weather this time o year ?
mod6: Wonderful :]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo incredibru huh ? one alf plows like 1024 chickens.
mod6: Can only check teh weather if in assbots L2. Which is very temperate.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Seriously
mircea_popescu: ehehe
asciilifeform: moar patchez in the pipe, too
asciilifeform: one (optional...!) to set a version string that actually displays to folks like 'bitnodes'
BingoBoingo: https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/status/623164818971713536
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asciilifeform: and another (also experimental) that adds 'flushmempool'
BingoBoingo: ^ China now doing the biggest SQL join in history. #AshleyMadison #OPMhack
asciilifeform: l0l
asciilifeform bbl
mircea_popescu: ahahaha
mircea_popescu: ". The essence of Gawker has always been what happens when we get out of those meetings and go back to writing and editing the stories you do that no one else can do. "
mircea_popescu: dude srsly ?
mircea_popescu: these schmucks actually thought they do something remarkable in any sense ?
mircea_popescu: fascinating what derps actually sell themselves into. gawker editorial actually thinks it's more than a branded chicken coop
mircea_popescu: they probably imagine they ever published anything worth reading, too.
mircea_popescu: nuts.
mircea_popescu: next i'm gonna hear shit farmers in kenya think they're pulling the sun up each morning.
chetty: <mircea_popescu> next i'm gonna hear shit farmers in kenya think they're pulling the sun up each morning.// they aren't?
mircea_popescu: obviously.
mats: http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/breaking/ct-lockheed-martin-sikorsky-aircraft-20150720-story.html
assbot: Lockheed Martin to buy Sikorsky Aircraft for $9 billion - Chicago Tribune ... ( http://bit.ly/1OiflTR )
mircea_popescu: kinda funny to see the us reduced to the 50th state of the great nation of africa, but then again
mircea_popescu: not my country, not my problem.
shinohai: http://www.amazon.com/Baconlube--Flavored-Massage-Personal-Lubricant/dp/B00XQENVUS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1437373740&sr=8-1&keywords=bacon+lube
assbot: Amazon.com: Baconlube- Bacon Flavored Massage Oil & Personal Lubricant by J&D's: Health & Personal Care ... ( http://bit.ly/1OifAhz )
mircea_popescu: anyway, the one notable thing re gawker is that the twerps smokling the crack pipe of radical-this-and-that do not have either the intellectual wherewithal to notice nor the mental acumen to actually create THEIR OWN FUCKING BLOGS.
scoopbot_revived: Kickass Torrents Dropped From Google Search Results http://qntra.net/2015/07/kickass-torrents-dropped-from-google-search-results/
mircea_popescu: seriously, you gotta write emails to the staff about stuff like this ?
mircea_popescu: because why, it's 1715 all over again ?
mircea_popescu: "oh here's a backroom napkin scribbled with my protest over the culture of backroom dealing these people imported into our fine organisation of delusions of transparency. i am too stupid to understand how ridiculous i'm being. NEOTENY FOR THE VICTORY!!11"
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mircea_popescu: gawker does "radical transparency" don't you know. when you fuck with me you can read all about it on trilema, but it's gawker that's radically transparent. a bunch of twerps whose names nobody even happens to know. paragons in their own minds of things they don't understand, nor would understand even if they actually tried thinking about 'em.
mircea_popescu: fucking monkeys already.
BingoBoingo: http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/07/20/1233229/amd-catalyst-linux-driver-performs-wildly-different-based-on-programs-name
assbot: AMD Catalyst Linux Driver Performs Wildly Different Based On Program's Name - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OigmLK )
mircea_popescu: coming up next, "top 5 best program names for amd compatibility"
BingoBoingo: Apparently doom3.x86 is a good one
BingoBoingo: Also a journey to the mind of a Windows User https://archive.is/Kq7JT
assbot: CEO-011 comments on [CRITICAL] Windows users: Update your machine NOW! ... ( http://bit.ly/1JcDVWW )
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/b7ffaed85dc3cc4f937cbc57d46e2d58/tumblr_n2m74yD7d21sjyuzzo1_500.jpg
assbot: ... ( https://archive.is/http://41.media.tumblr.com/b7ffaed85dc3cc4f937cbc57d46e2d58/tumblr_n2m74yD7d21sjyuzzo1_500.jpg )
mircea_popescu: HA-ha!
mircea_popescu: my suspicions...
mircea_popescu: now if it also worked...
kakobrekla: what
kakobrekla: click de archive this url.
kakobrekla: or ?
mircea_popescu: ah two clicks away.
mircea_popescu: good enough i guess.
kakobrekla: that parsing and saving is very slow on some sites and i dunno if we want to hit him with everything ?
mircea_popescu: yeah makes sense.
mircea_popescu: if anyone cares they can click.
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phf: <mircea_popescu> fascinating what derps actually sell themselves into. gawker editorial actually thinks it's more than a branded chicken coop << from a limited experience, that seems like a sop in certain kind of sillicon-valley inspired u.s. company. a combination of "you can do anything!" with worst sort of delusions of grandeur.
phf: ties nicely with that tlp article about "the real me"
trinque: phf: yeah, these companies practically force their employees to take part in it
gernika: That's the reason I can't work as a startup employee anymore: they want you to *believe*
trinque: can't just do your job; you have to be drunk on whatever half-assed propaganda they came up with
trinque: gernika: indeed.
trinque tosses "passionate" on the american pyre
phf: i worked for one such company last year, joined out of curiousity, but stayed to finish projects i was responsible for. the amount of dysfunctional behavior was staggering.
phf: they had socially mandatory fist bumps, instead of hand shakes, by way of greeting.
phf: ceo would regularly send out "vote for us as the best place to work in the city", "vote for me as the best ceo"
gernika: phf Did you have to endure a hackathon?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-07-2015#1207955 << ample precedent for this crap. http://www.loper-os.org/?p=163 -- and also that famous find where 'skype' turned out to slow deliberately when CPUID instruction returned something other than intel
assbot: Logged on 20-07-2015 20:40:05; BingoBoingo: http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/07/20/1233229/amd-catalyst-linux-driver-performs-wildly-different-based-on-programs-name
assbot: Loper OS » How to un-break graphical Java apps under Ratpoison ... ( https://archive.is/http://www.loper-os.org/?p=163 )
phf: gernika: i didn't have to endure much, except shortage of competent underlings, but i witnessed cto organizing hackathon for other teams, and it was painful. blind leading the blind
asciilifeform: ;;isup qntra.net
gribble: qntra.net is down
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu et al ^
asciilifeform: http://www.nasdaq.com/article/the-cryptocold-war-bitcoins-politics-of-scalability-cm497963#/comment-2146567362 << extra-lulzy
assbot: The Crypto-Cold War: Bitcoin's Politics of Scalability - NASDAQ.com ... ( https://archive.is/http://www.nasdaq.com/article/the-cryptocold-war-bitcoins-politics-of-scalability-cm497963#/comment-2146567362 )
phf: it took me a while to even realize that the majority of employees had less then 3 years of programming experience, majority of managers had no software project experiences, etc. i didn't really understand until experiencing it first hand, that a large software company can be so utterly dysfunctional. and yet "we're all winners!"
asciilifeform: dafuq is a 'hackathon' ?
asciilifeform: newspeak for 'deathmarch' ?
trinque: you get pizza and beer and invite shmoes off the street to come "hack"
trinque: and expect them to ... not sure what
trinque: "ideate"
mats: solve problems for free!
phf: we had a better thing than hackathon. a small group of junior developers were tasked with designing a curriculum and writing tutorials for training people with zero computer skills to become rails developers. to, i shit you not, "help disadvantaged peoples".
trinque: the concept was obviously shat by marketing people who believed in the myth of "the weekend app that made a million bezzlars"
trinque: obviously if it worked for "them" it'll solve all our corporate dysfunction
trinque: phf: do what now?
gernika: trinque that type of hackathon is innocuous compared to mandated hackathons at work.
trinque: phf: like this was gonna get some bum off the street, making rails sites?
trinque: gernika: yeah, the one where they fucked up project management so you're gonna ship this weekend by god!
gernika: At one such hackathon, employees were encouraged to spend the night in the office.
trinque: all of these people are useless
phf: trinque: i was at one "interview" with a guy with zero programmer experience, straight from "you can do anything!" video, we're talking "dropped out of art degree to become a waiter, but hours were brutal, so i want to become a programmer"
trinque: clearly the only thing preventing idiocracy is that it could never get that far
trinque: phf: seems to come from an american notion that you get ahead by pulling one over on everyone else
trinque: there's this one neat trick they don't want you to know after all
trinque: and it surely isn't competent people working hard, anything but that
trinque: the greatest thing you can be is a 20 year old billionaire that blasted off doing something pedestrian
gernika: There was one hackathon which, at the time I hated, but in retrospect had some redeeming value to it. People formed their own teams and worked on their own ideas and at the end, the CEO judged the results.
gernika: CEO told our team ours sucked.
phf: that's an old school notion, trickster as a hero and all that, but i don't think this is that. these people are not even hustlers, i don't think there's any awareness there.
gernika: Which, hey - would good if that happened more. Sadly the CEO's own idea turned out to suck and the startup went out of business.
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asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, jurov, et al: soldered pogo-style ttl serial probe to the 'miracast'. this yielded a straight root shell in ~5 seconds after powerup.
phf: asciilifeform: btw hackthons used to be face to face development sessions by free software teams, when they had opportunity to all congregate at some location. coined afair by theo, but went the same way as "open" and such
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, jurov, et al: http://dpaste.com/0YSCME3.txt
assbot: ... ( https://archive.is/http://dpaste.com/0YSCME3.txt )
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, jurov, et al: lastly, http://dpaste.com/05FDR4M.txt
assbot: ... ( https://archive.is/http://dpaste.com/05FDR4M.txt )
decimation: asciilifeform: lol no login
asciilifeform: it's a serial port
asciilifeform: thing inside is an extremely cut-down linux
asciilifeform: (big fat surprise, it has to live in that 8MB eeprom)
phf: heh, qijialiang@CVN-SERVER
asciilifeform: the last time i plugged the thing into a display, i configured it to sit down on a wireless lan
asciilifeform: so it can access the net, yes
gabriel_laddel: "there's this one neat trick they don't want you to know after all " << hahaha
asciilifeform: no telnet server though, so it might have to get new rom (and flasher) via 'xmodem' or the like
asciilifeform: this is probably the smallest - masswise and volumewise - linux box that i've ever owned
asciilifeform: 30 grams or so
BingoBoingo: !b 2
assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0RHSK1S.txt )
gabriel_laddel: IMHO, hackathons are at their core a good thing - all implementations thus far have been terrible.
gabriel_laddel: "play with computers & new friends"
gabriel_laddel: yay
trinque: sure, throw competent people into a room, give 'em toys, sounds great
asciilifeform: 'eat fine dinner and fuck AT THE SAME TIME !'
trinque: lol
asciilifeform: not everything wants to happen at same time
mircea_popescu: ;;isup qntra.net
gribble: qntra.net is up
mircea_popescu: kthen
mats: mircea_popescu: how long do you plan to keep the legal research project open?
mircea_popescu: mats well until completion.
mircea_popescu: for sure can't close it with all the work you put into it.
phf: gabriel_laddel: original meaning is "remote team briefly works face to face". i think hackathons without shared context and common goal are fundamentally misguided
mircea_popescu: mats ftr, we're here : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=15-05-2015#1132541
assbot: Logged on 15-05-2015 03:32:27; mircea_popescu: mats went to check out the courts article, seems there's quite a bit left to go before i can close & award it. http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/#selection-317.0-325.66
mircea_popescu: just in case you missed that.
mircea_popescu: phf not so different from any other hot topic tshirt.
phf: nothing new
asciilifeform: anybody else here has 'miracast' device ?
asciilifeform: (or any of the 1,001 clones)
gabriel_laddel: phf: Sure, as "fundamentally misguided" as any other meetup for young people.
gabriel_laddel: phf: but whatever, I'm not against chess club
gabriel_laddel: well, actually I'm against chess club
gabriel_laddel: math club then
asciilifeform: chess isn't trying to build infrastructure
asciilifeform: or teach surgery
asciilifeform: to paraphrase naggum, yes, i am against surgery club for kidz
asciilifeform: (or perhaps i am enthusiastically for it, but only because misanthropy)
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel sure, but there's meetup of young people ie team + cheerleaders on the bus back from game away ; and then there's the meetup of young people ie, jay explains to preteens what the clit is.
mircea_popescu: he's young too. mentally.
gabriel_laddel: I was never party to either of those, so idk
mircea_popescu: why are you against chess club ?
gabriel_laddel: chess has been solved
mircea_popescu: fucking, idem.
mircea_popescu: incidentally : someone should start an "abortion club" trollage/moral panic. whereby you convince "the media" that the latest fad among teenagers is abortion club. "you gotta have one to be someone!"
asciilifeform: iirc there is abortion porn
mircea_popescu: "the latest dangerous fad to sweep our nation's junior high scene since that faux story about fermented shit we came up with out of nowhere."
asciilifeform: (definitely there was a few storiez on usenet/asstr)
asciilifeform: jekem!
asciilifeform: l0l
mircea_popescu: global derping!
trinque: my (former) buddy in middle school tried to smoke the banana peels
asciilifeform: i learned of the jekem crap from uncle al, incidentally
mircea_popescu: i think the banana peels thing was a different one.
asciilifeform: those were in the 'anarchist cookbook'
asciilifeform: along with 1,001 other frauds
trinque: yeah, I think that's where he got it
trinque: kid was scared to smoke weed, though
trinque: wtf?
asciilifeform: woah did gavin trip over his mains cable or what?
asciilifeform: where is the tx spam ?!
BingoBoingo: <gabriel_laddel> chess has been solved << not quite
mircea_popescu: mains ?CABLE ?
mircea_popescu: i fear to think of your living arrangements!
asciilifeform does not have this problem
asciilifeform: has proper ducts, like adults, now
cazalla: trinque, don't forget nutmeg!
mircea_popescu: is that a def lepard album ?
mircea_popescu: o no wait, it was "careful with that axe, eugene" not "trinque, don't forget the nutmeg".
mircea_popescu: my bad.
asciilifeform: where is the spam
asciilifeform: life is so empty without it
asciilifeform: did the fed run out of coin
mircea_popescu: failed to impressed, is at home crying in pillow ?
asciilifeform: the miracast almost makes me wish i had a tv set. would plug it in, watch blockchain go
trinque: lol what
trinque: cazalla: nutmeg?
mats: mircea_popescu: part V is covered in the first signed message, it follows the list of cases http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/#comment-113478 and i chose trilema as the venue for public review
assbot: So who's running the Courts circus ? on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( https://archive.is/http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/#comment-113478 )
trinque: mircea_popescu: bahahaha
mircea_popescu: mats and 4 ?
trinque: https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=21663 << my god, he did nutmeg and he could think any thought he wanted!
assbot: Erowid Experience Vaults: Nutmeg - Not at all what I expected! - 21663 ... ( https://archive.is/https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=21663 )
asciilifeform: when i took organic chem at uni, for some reason 'extract myristicin from the nutmeg' was the first lab session
asciilifeform did not eat it, on account of recalling that it is one of the 'bad' hallucinogens
trinque: heh, sure, and his "dose" was 5 teaspoons
trinque: of the nutmeg itself
mats: mircea_popescu: i can build a table for 4 (total score, number of cases), but what sort of statistical data are you looking for? the set is small and idk how you'd judge the quality of the data
mircea_popescu: im not looking for anything too elaborate. do a formal "here's everything" bit and i'll call it good.
mircea_popescu: "the sample is small and not much to be said" is after all statistical analysis, perfectly adequate for a sample that is small and not much to be said.
cazalla: trinque, preddy sure nut meg was in some cook book alongside banana skins ( i tried both afterall)
punkman: "The vulnerability in Microsoft Font Driver could allow remote code execution if a user opens a specially crafted document or visits an untrusted webpage that contains embedded OpenType fonts. "
trinque: I chewed some baby woodrose seeds one time, was pretty weird
mats: plenty of font bugs left
asciilifeform: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-S8sREt92vQ4/VFIK0V4gOSI/AAAAAAABxPM/mJl1PAhGmHY/s1600/HTB1KDrtGFXXXXaOXFXXq6xXFXXX0.jpg << http://www.spansion.com/Support/Datasheets/S25FL128S_256S_00.pdf >> short sck and si lines, apparently throws the cpu into bootloader, can then rewrite rom via usb
assbot: ... ( https://archive.is/http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-S8sREt92vQ4/VFIK0V4gOSI/AAAAAAABxPM/mJl1PAhGmHY/s1600/HTB1KDrtGFXXXXaOXFXXq6xXFXXX0.jpg )
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-07-2015#1207973 << /me does and will!
assbot: Logged on 20-07-2015 20:51:39; mircea_popescu: if anyone cares they can click.
cazalla: trinque, i think i remembe that one and something about soaking them
trinque: yup, that was it
trinque: and if feeling vaguely shitty and weak visuals are your thing, they're great!
BingoBoingo: Empire of Fee-fees https://slimgur.com/images/2015/07/20/a2d60412ba2ebe714ff576f9a39757a6.png
assbot: ... ( https://archive.is/https://slimgur.com/images/2015/07/20/a2d60412ba2ebe714ff576f9a39757a6.png )
trinque: "The Internet's Premier Shitlord Image Host" << wahaha
scoopbot_revived: The best auction. Ever. http://trilema.com/2015/the-best-auction-ever/
BingoBoingo: trinque: Remember it was necessary because Imgur is fat
BingoBoingo: https://slimgur.com/images/2015/07/20/f0be2298689c860f6c88fe5c534aa8cc.png
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jddf8i )
trinque: gross
asciilifeform: barfatronic
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=568&cpage=4#comment-17254 << today's lol
assbot: Loper OS » Why Hypercard Had to Die ... ( http://bit.ly/1JddYGF )
mircea_popescu: gernika well b,tmsr~ doesn't care what you believe.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a hackathon is actually a brilliant idea : take a bunch of kids with cs airs, strip them naked, chain them to desks and let them come out once they did something worthwhile.
mircea_popescu: i think it's been perverted in the evil clutches of ustardism tho.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: substitute in a different profession and see if the above still appears to make sense
BingoBoingo: Still works
asciilifeform: e.g., 'lock the kidz in a room and let'em out once some of them build a plane'
asciilifeform: e.g., 'lock the kidz in a room and let'em out once some of them compose a passable symphony'
asciilifeform: hope you have good corpse disposal facilities
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the only substituteable profession is camwhore.
mircea_popescu: and it appears to make sense yes.
BingoBoingo: Lock kids in a room, let out once two have switched kidneys
mircea_popescu: ahahaha.
asciilifeform: software as it exists now is largely the result of precisely this kind of process.
asciilifeform: i am not impressed.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform which is what defines the profession.
mircea_popescu: you think venetian glassblowing is defined by what they actually did, or by all the glass they could have conceivably blown
trinque: right, "weekend appz" as I said
mircea_popescu: on the basis of... glass ?
asciilifeform: witch doctor in the congo does not define medicine.
asciilifeform: not now, not ever.
mircea_popescu: at some point, yes.
mircea_popescu: at some point congolese witch doctor defined medicine.
asciilifeform: not when there are actual doctors somewhere.
mircea_popescu: and at the current point, "programmer" is EXACTLY like "etsy artefactual expert"
mircea_popescu: but there ARENT actual doctors somewhere.
mircea_popescu: that's what we're trying to do here, the somewhere. imo not done yet.
mircea_popescu: so so far - programmer, camwhore, boys and girls.
asciilifeform begs to differ
mircea_popescu: used to be easy rider and waitress, fiddy years ago
mircea_popescu: this isn't going towards a meta-programmersclub thing is it ?
asciilifeform: nah.
mircea_popescu: where is the place ? do i go to microsoft and learn how programming's done fo real by pros ?
asciilifeform: mno
mircea_popescu: or where, nvidia ? foxconn ?
asciilifeform: mno.
mircea_popescu: well what, naggum's crypt ?
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: or my crypt
asciilifeform: or perhaps 1,001 other
mircea_popescu: sorry to tell you, crypts do not cunt in this discussion.
mircea_popescu: a profession's not an osuary.
asciilifeform: hey my crypt's in business
asciilifeform: l0l
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: anyway, i took this as far as i care to. gotta admit it's a fine if unpleasant argument
mircea_popescu: i yield the balance of my time, to the future programmers.
phf: perhaps ITA before bought by google
asciilifeform: (and the folks i work with - are very much not 'etsy artefactual expert' types)
gernika: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208154 << refreshing.
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 01:08:53; mircea_popescu: gernika well b,tmsr~ doesn't care what you believe.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, you me and everyone else. except nobody can visit.
asciilifeform: phf: 1,001 places! but none are famous
asciilifeform: and none lift derps off the street and 'teach' them
mircea_popescu: a profession's different from a fucking secret society yo.
mircea_popescu: fundamentally different.
asciilifeform: not so sure about this
trinque: asciilifeform: hell I've learned a great deal being *here*
mircea_popescu: like a wife and a whore : both sore in the cunt, yet not the same deal.
mircea_popescu: profession specifically means, "dominative of the public discourse on the topic"
mircea_popescu: which your guys are not.
asciilifeform: much of history of physical science (arguably the 'good times') were squarely in the 'secret society' days
asciilifeform: public discourse - aha, nasdaq, not mpex
mircea_popescu: "physical scientist" was never a profession.
asciilifeform: alchemist!
mircea_popescu: for that matter, spinoza was a lens polisher by trade. his profession wasn't "philosopher". that was his hobby.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20400 @ 0.00056956 = 11.619 BTC [-] {2}
trinque: !up Rozal
trinque: !up Cory
trinque: couple more of those and I'll stop
trinque: tired of this thing going offline
trinque: long term fix is ripping out the golang thing and replacing it, meanwhile... bash hairball
asciilifeform wonders if anyone has carried out any serious public work whatsoever re: mempool tx propagation
asciilifeform notices that all of his nodes carry precisely the same tx, but then again they are all peering one another...
asciilifeform: https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/128.8.124.7-8333 << l0l, poor buggers are wedged
assbot: 128.8.124.7:8333 - Bitnodes ... ( http://bit.ly/1RLgFEL )
asciilifeform: i oughta knock on their door and tell'em
asciilifeform: esp. funny considering that they portscan planet 24/7 and try to -addnode to everybody who answers
asciilifeform: (incl. even us)
trinque: alright, that sob checks his underwear via cron and restarts if need be
trinque: someone give me a shout if he disappears again
scoopbot_revived: Prepare to be insanely, incredibly, very very jealous with envy! http://trilema.com/2015/prepare-to-be-insanely-incredibly-very-very-jealous-with-envy/
asciilifeform sits and thinks, wondering whether anyone has produced clockless (muller gate) miner
asciilifeform: ideal application - small circuit, precious-little comms with outside world, etc
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-12-2013#429461 << old threadz, for n00bz
assbot: Logged on 22-12-2013 17:13:53; asciilifeform: the clockless ARM (pretty braindamaged idea, to take a classical cpu and make it clockless, but anyway) had to be designed ad hoc, avoiding industry-standard toolchains.
asciilifeform: http://www.righto.com/2014/09/why-z-80s-data-pins-are-scrambled.html << unrelated, historical lulz
assbot: Why the Z-80's data pins are scrambled ... ( http://bit.ly/1RLj5U3 )
asciilifeform: and for some more lulz. tried to find some material re: 'non-outsourceable puzzles', vaguely recalled that it was an idea whereby mining pool is made impossible on account of any participant being able to undetectably claim the entire reward for himself. then learned that there is no such field, properly speaking, as 'non-outsourceable puzzles', and that it was a crackpot creation of miller (the one featured in http://trilema.
asciilifeform: com/2015/on-the-elaine-shi-and-andrew-miller-scam-ring )
mats: deedbot-: add-deed http://dpaste.com/3TW10PM.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1RLjIwV )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45291 @ 0.00058092 = 26.3104 BTC [+] {3}
asciilifeform: neato!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu awake ?
mats: trinque: anything wrong with deedbot?
trinque: clearly there is
trinque: oh, no that's the wrong syntax
trinque: just deedbot- <url>
trinque: mats: ^
mats: deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/3TW10PM.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1RLjIwV )
deedbot-: accepted: 1
mats: syntax changed huh
trinque: yeah, there were complaints, mistakes were made, those responsible were sacked
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42550 @ 0.00055919 = 23.7935 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50100 @ 0.00058292 = 29.2043 BTC [+]
decimation: asciilifeform: what is the sha256sum of your blk0009.dat?
decimation: http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-15-459 < " In fiscal year 2011, the most recent information available, DOD spent over $1 billion leasing commercial SATCOM. "
assbot: U.S. GAO - Defense Satellite Communications: DOD Needs Additional Information to Improve Procurements ... ( http://bit.ly/1VnmJTe )
decimation: asciilifeform: how did you attach your serial cables?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54900 @ 0.00058292 = 32.0023 BTC [+]
decimation: asciilifeform: can you even buy müller gates?
decimation: apparently he americanized it into muller
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45923 @ 0.00058292 = 26.7694 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45300 @ 0.00055919 = 25.3313 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35300 @ 0.00058292 = 20.5771 BTC [+]
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-07-2015#1207730 << i copied a few blk files over to my gentoo laptop and tried blkcut and it just failed instantly so I figured I did something wrong
assbot: Logged on 20-07-2015 15:05:16; asciilifeform: somebody found a bug in 'blkcut' but did not follow up re: replicating
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27450 @ 0.00058292 = 16.0012 BTC [+]

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